Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2) with PIPE id 4061782; Thu, 05 Aug 2004 03:00:47 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #92 Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 03:00:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BIZ_TLD, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.60 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.2.3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #92 1. Re: MSDS & consumer products by "Nigel Worsley" 2. Re: MSDS & consumer products (makeup) by Steve Larson 3. Re: Israeli rental house info by "" 4. moon by Judy 5. best men by Judy 6. Re: My Career Plan -- input wanted! (fwd) by Charlie Richmond 7. Lightwright layout by Chris Wych 8. Re: Lightwright layout by Rachel Kinsman Steck 9. Re: moon by Herrick 10. Political conventions recap by "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" 11. Sound positions by "Fred Schoening, Jr." 12. Sound questions by "Tony Puglielli" 13. Re: Sound questions by Charlie Richmond 14. Re: moon by "Paul" 15. Advice/reccomandations please... by "CATHERINE BRUMM" 16. Re: Advice/reccomandations please... by Shawn Palmer 17. Re: Audio Router (was Re: Sound questions) by "Michael Feinberg" 18. Re: Advice/reccomandations please... by Charlie Richmond 19. Re: Audio Router (was Re: Sound questions) by "Chris Warner" 20. Design-tech anniversaries for August by "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" 21. Re: Lightwright layout by Stephen Litterst 22. Re: Advice/reccomandations please... by Todd Lipcon 23. Re: Lightwright layout by John McKernon 24. Re: Lightwright layout by "Chris Warner" 25. Re: Israeli rental house info by "Frank E. Merrill" 26. Re: Israeli rental house info by "Jon Ares" 27. Re: Lightwright layout by Herrick 28. Re[2]: Israeli rental house info by "Frank E. Merrill" 29. Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info by "Michael Eddy" 30. Re: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info by Boyd Ostroff 31. Re: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info by Herrick 32. Re: MOS by Eric Minton 33. Re: Lightwright layout by John McKernon 34. Re: Lightwright layout by John McKernon 35. Re: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info by Dale Farmer 36. Re: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info by Noah Price 37. Re: Re[2]: Israeli rental house info by "Andy Leviss" 38. Re: My Career Plan -- input wanted! by mat goebel 39. Re: plays as scenes in movies by "Douglas McCracken" 40. Re: Terminology Question by BACatlarge [at] aol.com 41. OTR Again by 42. OTR Again by 43. Re: Life Plans by June Abernathy *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <087201c47a0f$c55ef7d0$0c00a8c0 [at] Nigellaptop> From: "Nigel Worsley" References: Subject: Re: MSDS & consumer products Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 11:42:32 +0100 StevevETTrn [at] aol.com wrote: > I once found an MSDS for ELECTRICITY of all things. There's one here for water! http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/WA/water.html Nigel Worsley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 07:20:30 -0400 Subject: Re: MSDS & consumer products (makeup) From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Looks like you are approaching it sensibly, that's great. Steve on 8/4/04 1:10 AM, MissWisc [at] aol.com at MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > A single phone call got me MSDS for the Mary Kay products I use as stage > makeup. Foundation/cleanser/skin care products come in squeeze tubes or > bottles so > they can be safely shared by squeezing on to a cotton ball or a clean > disposable surface (I use small styrofoam plates cut in fours). For color > items I use > samples or cut/scrape some onto the plate. > > Since I only do one show a year and my students are young enough that most > don't wear makeup, this is MUCH less expensive for everyone. I provide the > makeup at wholesale and can tell others on the list how to get it that way too > - > email me off list. > > I prefer to do it this way instead of having a student buy the wrong thing or > buy something they use once and let it sit with the dust bunnies under the > bed until next year. I teach them how to apply it safely and have a parent > who's > trained supervise the kids in the makeup area. Never had a problem and my > kids don't get "acne cosmetica" - a condition common to people who share > makeup > or don't remove it properly. > > That ghastly community tackle box with 20 dirty fingers digging into the same > tube of greasepaint from 1960 is just wrong, wrong, wrong. Sharing sponges > wiped over Pan-Cake that's so old it's cracked into a million pieces is wrong. > I'm shocked at the number of high schools and community theaters who are using > unhygienic practices for something that can be so inexpensive to do safely. If > yours still is, please contact me! > > Yes, Steve, we do have a hazardous materials clean-up protocol, blood born > pathogens protocol (State of WI mandates that), and emergency protocol for > fire, > flood, bomb, intruder, etc. Training is given each year and personal > protection items are easily obtainable. The school is small - only 150 kids - > but a > VIP parent who's an attorney helps us follow the rules. > > That's why I was asking about what OSHA requires and where to find it in > writing. Cosmetics are an odd duck when it comes to US government regulations. > FDA > is responsible, but has no pre-market approval and will only investigate a > product when several claims of adverse reactions have been made. In other > words, > Susie down the street can start producing harmful makeup in her bathtub and > selling it in dirty jars with no address or company name on the label but > there's nothing the FDA can do about it until they can prove someone was hurt. > Most > people think cosmetics are double-blind tested like pharmaceuticals since > it's the same government agency supervising. Nope. And cosmetics have a shelf > life that depends on proper storage too. > > One of the reasons I became a consultant with Mary Kay is they make their own > products in an OSHA star certified, FDA monitored plant in Dallas. I've been > in it several times (tours available to the general public - just call and > ask), have talked with people who work there, and have photos of what happens. > Only place I've ever been with a huge sign saying "Welcome OSHA" hanging over > the door. > > So different from the kid's Halloween makeup that's made in China with > heaven-only-knows-what for ingredients. THAT is SCARY!!!! > > Kristi > http://www.marykay.com/kross-clausen > > ------------------------------ Subject: re: Israeli rental house info From: "" Message-Id: <20040804152504.1606C3DDD [at] xprdmailfe6.nwk.excite.com> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 11:25:04 -0400 (EDT) hi Joel, in the lighting and sound department you may want to try Kilim - they are one of the best companies here. their phone number is +972-4-8620222 fax:+972-4-8672911. Unfortunately They don't have a web site yet. Gil Teichman is the leading lighting company in israel for events and weddings - the downsize is that they don't do sound. Their website is www.gil-teichman.com and has an english version. thier phone number is +972-3-9773232 fax: +972-3-9773237. Another good option is Magenta - phone number +972-2-5340393. In chair rental you may want to check out Shadletzky phone number +972-3-5492992 who i work with. hey are very good and reliable. I can't help you with the tent, but i'll ask around and get back to you. Feel free to call me if you need any help i'll be glad to assist you my number is +972-54-643828. Tomer Cohen Etgar Theatre Productions 8 Drezner St. Tel Aviv Israel tzumi [at] walla.co.il +972-3-6423917 _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41112494.2050106 [at] post.tau.ac.il> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:01:56 +0200 From: Judy Subject: moon Thanks for all the suggestions about lighting the moon! I tried some of them, but it's a REALLY BIG MOON! and in addition there will be spray paint over the perspex, and none of the options were strong enough. I had great hopes for the LED idea, which is really diffuse, but it wasn't strong enough either even with relatively high wattage and double strips. It looks like we're going to go with fluorescents, and buy a circuit that will allow us to dim them. Judy ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4111249F.2060004 [at] post.tau.ac.il> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:02:07 +0200 From: Judy Subject: best men > > ><< "Best Man," or "Production Manager?" Congrats, regardless. >> > >In Israel, as in many other places, they pretty much are the same. > Ouch, that hurts! I've lit some weddings here (in Israel), in fact at one of them the best man was my cousin, and he barely lifted a finger to help! I was really disappointed in him! (however, he did help find us a generator when it turned out the caterer was using all the power.....) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:19:19 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: My Career Plan -- input wanted! (fwd) Message-ID: from the Theatre-Sound list... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 09:30:44 -0400 From: John Huntington To: THEATRE-SOUND [at] LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: My Career Plan -- input wanted! I forgot to mention before--does anyone know if the Expression center is accredited? We had a student who tried to transfer to our Bachelor's program from from Full Sail's "associate degree" but our school wouldn't accept the credits. This was surprising, since we are open admissions and students only need a high school diploma and reading/writing/math certification for admission. Apparently, Full Sail is not accredited. John ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040804174245.62571.qmail [at] web40812.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 10:42:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Wych Subject: Lightwright layout I have a quick question to those using light wright. Is there a way to change the name that prints on each sheet? Im using a university computer and it prints the universitys name and I would like it to print my name for my portfolio. Thanks for the help. Chris W. ===== IL State U. Theatre Student a_small_idiot [at] yahoo.com ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ My Theatre Techie Sites: Links- http://www.theatretechie.com Webpage- http://members.aol.com/CPWTCH007/tech.html ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 11:06:51 -0700 Subject: Re: Lightwright layout From: Rachel Kinsman Steck Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Chris, You cannot change the footer with your University's name because the University is the licensed user. Legally, you have to purchase your own copy to get your name on the footer (I say legally because I am sure there are people out there who have found a way to get around the licensing). The good news is that there is finally an educational discount on this product and Lightwright 4 is pretty cool. Hope this helps... Rachel Kinsman Steck Department of Theater Arts University of Oregon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 14:07:40 -0400 Subject: Re: moon From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <2C9FACB5-E641-11D8-A457-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com> Judy, I had a similar issue a few years ago with the Moon for Batboy and a designer who wanted an 18' moon box to "float in". It was way too expensive. We ended up putting 2 selecon zoom fixtures in a tree DS of the cyc and using a glass gobo. It was gorgeous. one light with the moon gobo was light orange (harvest) the other was just the same size circle slightly fuzzed with a blood red gel. the 2 blended beautifully. Pics are on my website under Batboy. The Selecons gave me an appx. 14' moon. YMMV. HTH, _herrick On Wednesday, Aug 4, 2004, at 14:01 America/New_York, Judy wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks for all the suggestions about lighting the moon! I tried some > of them, but it's a REALLY BIG MOON! and in addition there will be > spray paint over the perspex, and none of the options were strong > enough. I had great hopes for the LED idea, which is really diffuse, > but it wasn't strong enough either even with relatively high wattage > and double strips. It looks like we're going to go with fluorescents, > and buy a circuit that will allow us to dim them. > Judy > > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" Subject: Political conventions recap Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:38:46 -0400 Message-ID: Thank you all who submitted information on the technical/design aspects of the conventions. I have coalated what you put on the list; along with scoping out the web page leads that you all sent in, finding some of my own, and then finding a great article in the print edition of the Washington Post. I have placed the sesults on the following page: http://www.artslynx.org/theatre/techstats.htm It's not formatted wonderfully as I hope that once the Republican Convention gets closer you will help me to fill in the blanks there as well. So as you discover names and "stuff" either send to me off-list or post to the list with CONVENTIONS somewhere in the heading. I still have not herd from anyone about names of stage managers or of the Dem's on microphone announcer. Her name sounds very familier. All of these people, designers and tech, do astonishing work. It is a shame they remain so uncredited. My goal is to rectify this....with your help. By the way, as they come into my hands, I can also post some of the fun PR type tech lists from the big nationsl tours (ie how many trucks such and such took). It is certainly a fun way to demonstrate to students that these shows are not just about acting (except in the case of the conventions where I guess it IS just about acting ) Hey! The projection work at the Dem Convention was quite good. It is so hard to match multiple RP projections so well on live TV. I was impressed. I have the stats on the screens but nothing on the people who did it and the specs of the projectors. So if any of you come by that lets add it in. Thanks all again. Richard Finkelstein ------------------------------ Message-ID: <11947959.1091645316137.JavaMail.root [at] wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 13:48:36 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: "Fred Schoening, Jr." Subject: Sound positions Howdy, folks! We're still looking for a sound engineer (and a sound intern) here at the Dallas Theater Center for this coming season. If y'all know anyone who might be interested, please have them contact our Production Manager, Charley Rickett, ASAP at 214 922-0422 x11 or at Charley.Rickett [at] DallasTheaterCenter.org . Thanks! "Big Fred" Schoening Technical Director Dallas Theater Center 2401 Flora St. Dallas, TX 75201 214 922 0422 x12 ------------------------------ Subject: Sound questions Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 14:10:17 -0500 Message-ID: <1B8C3598EBB9C241BDC7E86AA1FB976135F042 [at] srv2mx.MILWAUKEEREP.COM> From: "Tony Puglielli" Does anybody on the list have any recommendations for 16 channel input / 16 channel output audio routers. We are trying to streamline our SFX playback system. I would be interested in an analog or digital, haven't had much success finding either. I am trying to stay away from the full size monitor or front of house desks. Many thanks in advance. Tony Puglielli Associate Technical Director Electric & Sound Director Milwaukee Repertory Theater ph (414) 290-5394 fax (414) 224-9097 =20 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 20:26:27 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Sound questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Tony Puglielli wrote: > Does anybody on the list have any recommendations for 16 channel input / > 16 channel output audio routers. We are trying to streamline our SFX > playback system. I would be interested in an analog or digital, haven't Hi Tony - Please consider our AudioBox theatrical router/recorder/playback unit. We have just introduced the new model AB64... http://www.richmondsounddesign.com/ Good luck! Charlie + Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design Ltd - Aura Show Control Ltd + + http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com -- http://www.AuraShowControl.com + +---- "Performance for the Long Run" ----- "Creativity in Control" ----+ +---------------- AudioBox user group discussion list: ----------------+ +----------- http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/ablist.html -----------+ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004001c47a5a$860e83c0$0100a8c0 [at] yourwbhlv195ih> From: "Paul" References: Subject: Re: moon Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 20:37:44 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:46 PM Subject: need help with the moon (urgent!) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hi everybody: I have a show with a moon box, about 5 feet in diameter, about 5 or 6" deep, with a perspex cover. It has to shine white and then turn red. We lined the circumference with bulbs, base on the edge and pointing inward. That works ok for the white circuit(sort of),but for the red, where the lamps are weaker, we can't get an even glow. We tried all kinds of different incandescent lamps, from the simplest to various reflector lamps as high as 80W, and we keep getting spotty results. We don't have enough budget for neon, which would be ideal, or for fluorescents which would necessitate a special dimming circuit. Any ideas? It's pretty urgent, so if you think of something and want to email me directly that would be great. Thanks Judy Hi I produced an 8 foot diameter moon for a show last year. It consisted of a ply circle with 9inch high ply wall. Base covered in crumpled foil and lit with white LED's. 2 layers of frost then covered with a translucent fabric stretched over sides using a ring of ply to tighten down (like a drum skin). Then air brushed on moon map. See http://www.p.lunnon.dsl.pipex.com/circus.shtml I know that this is only one colour but the effect was stunning. Good luck Paul ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:49:36 -0400 From: "CATHERINE BRUMM" Subject: Advice/reccomandations please... I am looking to add digital recording capabilities to the sound system in the space I work in. I am looking for the very basic. Just somehting I can use to make archival recordings of HS performing arts concerts and use to record curtain speeches or voice overs for plays. Somehting with a build in CD burner and maybe 6-8 tracks should be sufficant. Where is the best places to look? Any specific companies/brand names anyone suggests? Thanks in advance for the advice, Catherine K. Brumm, General Manager Minnie Evans Arts Center Wilmington, NC P910-)790-2360 x821 F)910-790-2356 cbrumm [at] nhcs.k12.nc.us www.geocities.com/nhcscbrumm/index.html ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41113FC8.8010903 [at] northnet.net> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:58:00 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Advice/reccomandations please... References: In-Reply-To: > I am looking to add digital recording capabilities to the sound system > in the space I work in. I am looking for the very basic. Just somehting > I can use to make archival recordings of HS performing arts concerts and > use to record curtain speeches or voice overs for plays. Somehting with > a build in CD burner and maybe 6-8 tracks should be sufficant. > > Where is the best places to look? Any specific companies/brand names > anyone suggests? > > Thanks in advance for the advice, > > > Catherine K. Brumm, General Manager When I did this about two years ago I got a MOTU 828 with Digital Performer. The unit is attached to a Mac computer we had. Digital Performer is the software. The Mac had a burner already. The 828 has 8 inputs. Therefore I use 8 tracks in Digital Performer, although DP has much more capability than that. I am planning on getting another 828 so I can record 16 tracks if need be. I had a bad experience with Pro Tools, so I was specifically looking to avoid Digidesign. I know Digidesign is very popular, but that didn't really matter to me. If you want an all in one unit (no external computer) you could look at some of the digital 8 track recorders from Fostex, Tascam and the like. I am pretty sure you can have 8 tracks for less than $2,000. Since I had the computer, though, the little MOTU system I got was well under $2,000. Shawn Palmer Neenah, WI USA ------------------------------ From: "Michael Feinberg" Subject: Re: Audio Router (was Re: Sound questions) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:06:40 -0400 Message-Id: <20040804195310.M39316 [at] joyce.eng.yale.edu> In-Reply-To: References: On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 14:10:17 -0500, Tony Puglielli wrote > Does anybody on the list have any recommendations for 16 channel > input / 16 channel output audio routers. We are trying to > streamline our SFX playback system. I would be interested in an > analog or digital, haven't had much success finding either. I am > trying to stay away from the full size monitor or front of house > desks. Many thanks in advance. What exactly do you mean by 'router'? It's a term that gets applied to a lot of different things. Some questions: -Do you want to mix your 16 inputs into 16 different outputs or do you just want switching capability (like an automated patchbay)? -If you need mixing, do you need physical knobs for each channel or can you use a menu structure/computer control? -Do you want live control over each mix/switch or do you just need to recall presets? -Are captive screw terminals okay for the audio connections or do you need XLR or 1/4" connectors? If you're looking for something like a standalone matrix from a mixing console I'm not aware of anything that is 16x16. You could look at the Midas XL88 (8x8) or the Crest X-Matrix (12x2 1RU units so you could assemble a 12x16.) If computer control or preset recall is acceptable, there are tons of rack mount boxes that will switch or mix 16x16. Off the top of my head you could look at Intelix, Lectrosonics, Peavey AA, Extron, Kramer, and Rane. With answers to the above questions I could probably steer you to a more specific product. -Michael Feinberg, CTS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 21:55:03 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Advice/reccomandations please... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, CATHERINE BRUMM wrote: > I am looking to add digital recording capabilities to the sound system You might want to post this on the Theatre-Sound list as well: http://www.brooklyn.com/theatre-sound/index.html Good luck! Charlie + Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design Ltd - Aura Show Control Ltd + + http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com -- http://www.AuraShowControl.com + +---- "Performance for the Long Run" ----- "Creativity in Control" ----+ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <01fb01c47a68$2ff8d2c0$6501a8c0 [at] chris> From: "Chris Warner" References:

Subject: Re: Audio Router (was Re: Sound questions) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 14:15:37 -0700 > > If you're looking for something like a standalone matrix from a mixing > console I'm not aware of anything that is 16x16. You could look at the Midas > XL88 (8x8) or the Crest X-Matrix (12x2 1RU units so you could assemble a > 12x16.) If computer control or preset recall is acceptable, there are tons > of rack mount boxes that will switch or mix 16x16. Off the top of my head > you could look at Intelix, Lectrosonics, Peavey AA, Extron, Kramer, and Rane. > Don't Forget Shure's Auxpander! ------------------------------ From: "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" Subject: Design-tech anniversaries for August Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:12:53 -0400 Message-ID: Here are some of the milestones that I've tracked in "This Month in Theatre History". as always see more at http://www.artslynx.org/theatre/thechron.htm It took me about 5 years of research to finally find the date of birth for Jules Leotard. I always knew the garment that bears his name had been invented for his trapeze act. I only later learned that he invented the trapeze act as a circus act too, and that both made their debut on the same day. Mr. Leotard was also THE "man on the flying trapeze". Of course his "Leotard" has not much resemblance to today's. If you look him up, they NEVER give a date of birth and very rarely a date of death, but rather only the date of his act's (and costume's) debut. What would be really great to learn would be who actually designed and made the costume. History has given him the credit but I am suspicious. My own guess instinct was that he was the first to WEAR a "Leotard" which was made for him by someone else. If my instinct is right I'd love someday to give the correct credit. Alas pop history is always sloppy in these things in crediting invention. The one that bothers me the most in theatre has been the claim that Fresnel invented the Fresnel lens (Ironically Fresnel did seem to invent the black riser variety as used in the ol' "stepped lens" stage lights, but we all know the risers in theatre "Fresnel" units do NOT feature black risers). By the way, the lenses got named after him because at the time he was the beaurocrat in France that mandated that all lighthouses had to use the lenses (an improvement to be sure) so they became Fresnel's lenses. Now on to the anniversaries... In August we can celebrate (or mourn) the following anniversaries . . . 58th Anniversary of the birth of designer, Marjory Kellog 83rd Anniversary of the birth of designer, Jean Eckart 53rd Anniversary of the birth of designer, Heidi Landesman 78th Anniversary of the birth of designer, Peter Larkin 71st Anniversary of the birth of designer, Robin Wagner 5th Anniversary of the death of Film Designer George Nelson 5th Anniversary of the death of designer, Carl Toms 35th Anniversary of the death of designer, Will Steven Armstrong 30th Anniversary of the death of scenery,costume designer, Perry Watkins, the first African-American to be accepted into membership of the United Scenic Artists (union) Anniversary of the death of Scene Designer, John Wenger 49th Anniversary of the death of scenery,costume designer, Woodman Thompson 105th Anniversary of the birth of designer,director, Mordecai Gorelik 54th Anniversary of the birth of lighting designer, Craig Miller 128th Anniversary of the birth of Russian set and costume designer, Ivan Bilibin 166th Anniversary of the birth of the very first trapeze artist, Jules Leotard. His act was called: Zampillaerostation. (1838) 148th anniversary of the opening of the current Bolshoi Theatre in Moscow 11th Anniversary of the death of Costume Designer Irene Scharaff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 22:17:49 +0100 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Lightwright layout Message-id: ----- Original Message ----- From: Rachel Kinsman Steck Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2004 7:06 pm Subject: Re: Lightwright layout >-------------------------------------------------- Legally, you have to purchase > your own > copy to get your name on the footer (I say legally because I am > sure there > are people out there who have found a way to get around the > licensing). The > good news is that there is finally an educational discount on this > productand Lightwright 4 is pretty cool. Actually, I've known some pretty good hackers in my day and they were unable to get around John's registration coding (purely as an academic exercise, of course). The educational price is very good and John will allow you to upgrade to a full license when it expires. Steve L. Stephen Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College, Dept of Theatre Arts 607.274.34947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 17:30:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Lipcon Subject: Re: Advice/reccomandations please... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040804172456.O63917 [at] mercea.mercea.net> References:

On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Shawn Palmer wrote: > When I did this about two years ago I got a MOTU 828 with Digital Performer. > The unit is attached to a Mac computer we had. Digital Performer is the > software. The Mac had a burner already. The 828 has 8 inputs. Therefore I > use 8 tracks in Digital Performer, although DP has much more capability than > that. I am planning on getting another 828 so I can record 16 tracks if need > be. > The 828MkII actually has much more input capability than just 8. There are the 8 analog inputs on the back (line level, TRS connectors) that Shawn is referring to, plus 2 TRS/XLR combos on the front with preamps/phantom. If 10 inputs isn't enough, there is also an ADAT input where you can add another 8 through a unit like a B*hringer ADA8000. After that, there are two SPDIF inputs I believe as well, I think. The total comes to either 20 or 22. I don't know how much of this is new in the MkII version of the 828. Maybe the old version didn't have all the optical/digital inputs. I've personally used my 828MkII for a fair amount of live recording and it has performed well. I've only done 10 tracks simultaneously so far (I don't own an external ADC) but I'm pretty sure my PowerBook could handle 20 with a fast external hard drive, at least at 44KHz. If you don't have a Mac, or are looking for something cheaper, you can also check out the MBox, by Digidesign. It's around $450 and has 4 inputs I think, and comes with Pro Tools which is one of the industry standards. As for standalone units with CDR, I don't have too many ideas. I think, though, that these days, most operators feel more comfortable on software on a PC/Mac rather than navigating through a lot of menus on a standalone unit. Hope that helps. -Todd ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:33:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Lightwright layout From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > The educational price is very good and John will allow you to upgrade to a > full license when it expires. Actually, it's a "student" license - it's available only to students, not faculty/staff/etc - and it's good for 3 years, unlike the regular individual license which has no time limit. - John ------------------------------ === john2004 [at] mckernon.com ==== ------------------------------ Message-ID: <026501c47a6e$b1ad4390$6501a8c0 [at] chris> From: "Chris Warner" References: Subject: Re: Lightwright layout Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:02:11 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McKernon" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Lightwright layout > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > The educational price is very good and John will allow you to upgrade to a > > full license when it expires. > > Actually, it's a "student" license - it's available only to students, not > faculty/staff/etc - and it's good for 3 years, unlike the regular individual > license which has no time limit. > > - John Hey John - When ya gonna add Plot drawing capabilities? Thanks in advance Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 17:15:41 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <458024828.20040804171541 [at] TCON.net> Subject: Re: Israeli rental house info In-Reply-To: References: Howdy! Tuesday, August 03, 2004, Joel Harari wrote: jsrc> I'm the best man for a wedding in Israel I figured out what a "Foley Artist" is in movie credits, but what does the "Best Boy" do on a film crew? Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Eastablished 1946 Indianapolis 317: 255 4666 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001001c47a71$b5675e00$0201a8c0 [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Israeli rental house info Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:23:45 -0700 > I figured out what a "Foley Artist" is in movie credits, but what does > the "Best Boy" do on a film crew? The Leading Lady. :) (Or your 6th grade teacher, if you're from the Seattle area.) -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:30:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Lightwright layout From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Hey John - When ya gonna make it all plug itself in? -Herrick On Wednesday, Aug 4, 2004, at 18:02 America/New_York, Chris Warner wrote: > > Hey John - > When ya gonna add Plot drawing capabilities? > > Thanks in advance > Chris > > > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:11:17 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <1875913243.20040804181117 [at] TCON.net> Subject: Re[2]: Israeli rental house info In-Reply-To: References:

Howdy! Wednesday, August 04, 2004, Jon Ares wrote: JA> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see JA> JA> --------------------------------------------------- >> I figured out what a "Foley Artist" is in movie credits, but what does >> the "Best Boy" do on a film crew? JA> The Leading Lady. :) (Or your 6th grade teacher, if you're from the JA> Seattle area.) Okay...I ask a straightforward question and see what I get? But I'll admit that I left myself WIDE open for a joke...LOL Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Eastablished 1946 Indianapolis 317: 255 4666 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net ------------------------------ From: "Michael Eddy" Subject: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:27:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> I figured out what a "Foley Artist" is in movie credits, but what does >> the "Best Boy" do on a film crew? >The Leading Lady. :) (Or your 6th grade teacher, if you're from the >Seattle area.) Okay Jon, You are now responsible for the lemonade that is dripping down my laptop screen! Thanks for that ROFLMAO moment. Frank, The Best Boy is the assistant to the Gaffer on a film. They handle the electric and lighting work on a film. Who knows where the term originated, sometime back in the early days of film, possibly even pre-California. Now, who wants to tackle MOS on the film clappers that indicates no sound? Here is the definition for Best Boy from the IMDb (Internet Movie Database) http://us.imdb.com/Glossary/ Best Boy AKA: Assistant Chief Lighting Technician, Best Boy Grip, Best Boy Electric The chief assistant, usually of the gaffer, but more often lately used as a general term for the second in command of a group. This term is likely borrowed from early sailing and whaling crews, as sailors were often employed to set up and work rigging in theatres. There are no "best girls" per se; female chief assistants are also called "Best Boys". HTH, Michael Eddy Technical Editor Lighting&Sound America magazine michael [at] plasa.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:51:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What is the movie... Monty Python and the Holy Grail I think? In the credits it lists the Best Boy, then after that it says "Worst Boy: Adolf Hitler." PS - extra film trivia credits if you can list all the films made by Alan Smithee Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:57:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <0B2D9A5A-E672-11D8-A457-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com> On Wednesday, Aug 4, 2004, at 19:51 America/New_York, Boyd Ostroff wrote: > > > PS - extra film trivia credits if you can list all the films made by > Alan > Smithee > You can't he's a fake and has made hundreds...all of them crap. > > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20040804140736.0296cec0 [at] mail.ericminton.biz> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:09:12 -1000 From: Eric Minton Subject: Re: MOS In-Reply-To: References:

Aloha Some German Director Said "Mit Out Sound" Eric ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:35:43 -0400 Subject: Re: Lightwright layout From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > When ya gonna add Plot drawing capabilities? As soon as Nemetschek and AutoDesk close their doors. I'm not terribly interested in reinventing the wheel, especially when we all have so much invested in learning our favorite CAD programs. - John ------------------------------ === john2004 [at] mckernon.com ==== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:36:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Lightwright layout From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > When ya gonna make it all plug itself in? As soon as I finish the mind-reading module...;) - John ------------------------------ === john2004 [at] mckernon.com ==== ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41118BD9.C96D727D [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 21:22:33 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info References: Herrick wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > On Wednesday, Aug 4, 2004, at 19:51 America/New_York, Boyd Ostroff > wrote: > > > > > > PS - extra film trivia credits if you can list all the films made by > > Alan > > Smithee > > > > You can't he's a fake and has made hundreds...all of them crap. Is that the name that someone has put in the credits when they don't want their name associated with the picture? --Dale ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <14DB0ECD-E68A-11D8-812E-000A958ABBF8 [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Re: Best Boy Was: Israeli rental house info Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:49:33 -0700 On Aug 4, 2004, at 6:22 PM, Dale Farmer wrote: > Is that the name that someone has put in the credits when they > don't want their name associated with the picture? Yup. > 'Alan Smithee' is a common pseudonym for directors whose film was > clearly taken away from her/him and recut heavily against her/his > wishes in ways that completely altered the film. Cousin of George Spelvin > Traditional theatre pseudonym given to actors who wish to remain > Anonymous. The female version is Georgina Spelvin. Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | Web issues: stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | | Web site administrator | Personal: noah [at] theprices.net | ------------------------------ From: "Andy Leviss" Subject: RE: Re[2]: Israeli rental house info Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 22:51:11 -0400 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <017e01c47a97$11609850$2802a8c0 [at] AndyLeviss> In-Reply-To: Frank Merrill wrote: > I figured out what a "Foley Artist" is in movie credits, but what > does the "Best Boy" do on a film crew? Jon Ares replied: > The Leading Lady. :) (Or your 6th grade teacher, > if you're from the Seattle area.) Frank replied: > Okay...I ask a straightforward question and see what I get? > But I'll admit that I left myself WIDE open for a joke...LOL So, apparently, did the leading lady! --A --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.730 / Virus Database: 485 - Release Date: 7/28/2004 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4111A592.4090309 [at] comcast.net> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:12:18 -0700 From: mat goebel Cc: THEATRE-SOUND [at] LISTSERV.AOL.COM (Discussion list for people working in sound for live theatre.) Subject: Re: My Career Plan -- input wanted! References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040804092712.02565320 [at] mail.cqmail.net> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040804092712.02565320 [at] mail.cqmail.net> John Huntington wrote: > I forgot to mention before--does anyone know if the Expression center is > accredited? We had a student who tried to transfer to our Bachelor's > program from from Full Sail's "associate degree" but our school wouldn't > accept the credits. This was surprising, since we are open admissions > and > students only need a high school diploma and reading/writing/math > certification for admission. Apparently, Full Sail is not accredited. > > John > > ######################################################################### > HELP KEEP THE S/N RATIO OF THIS LIST HIGH! If your comments don't > relate to > theatre-sound, send your reply via private email, not the list! > To Unsubscribe: send the text "signoff theatre-sound" to > listserv [at] listserv.aol.com > Much to my disappointment, Expressions is currently only credited by the state of California, not by the federal government. To put some perspective on it, DeVry University (if anyone is familiar with it) bears the same accreditations (California state only, no fed) as Expression. The federal accreditation is, however, in the pipeline and expected to come though soon (ie the next couple of years). Once the accreditation occurs, it will not only affect new degrees, but will be retroactive. So I am told by my admissions counselor. -- Mat G. Entertainment Technical Services Paramount's Great America "Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001e01c47aa2$a069dec0$6601a8c0 [at] hawaii.rr.com> From: "Douglas McCracken" References: Subject: Re: plays as scenes in movies Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:13:54 -1000 Too funny, I just read this and realized why no one answered the question. The question should read: In the movie "The Life of David Gale", What is the opera the cowboy attends? -snip- > I'm not an opera person, so this is my question. > > What is the opera the cowboy attends? > > Aloha, > > Douglas > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 00:11:09 -0400 From: BACatlarge [at] aol.com Subject: Re: Terminology Question Message-ID: <639327BA.640EE353.09A02DF2 [at] aol.com> In a message dated 8/4/2004 1:48:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Andy Leviss" writes: >I may just be having a total brain fart, but a friend of mine recently >asked me a question about a piece of theatre "jargon" he'd recently >heard but couldn't recall, and I'm currently stumped. He asked, "A >traveling show is called a 'road show.' What is the home base show >called?" If it is the place where a show does production before it starts to move, it is sometimes called the 'city of origin'. If it is a show that is never planning to move, it is sometimes refered to as a 'sit down' show. That what you were looking for? -- Brooke Carlson Automation Carpenter, Lion King Cheetah Tour IATSE Local 50 ------------------------------ From: Subject: OTR Again Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 0:40:37 -0400 Message-Id: <20040805044039.TVIS14278.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net [at] smtp.west.cox.net> Hey, I'm on the road, banging through Bush territory. Just passed through Midland, TX, Its so boringly flat that the only thing breaking up the ruler straight horizon (but you can see the vurvature from a highway overpass) is oil derricks and water towers. Oh, yeah, the highrises in Midland, too. Holed up in Abilene for the night, with a belly full of Joe Allens BBQ (I recommend it, along with a Shiner, BTW) and a poolfull of beauty contestants (thought of you, Kristi!). Anyhoo, I just thought I'd pass on the note, as I'll be in Dallas on the fifth for lunch, Memphis for the weekend, and Chicago on Sunday. From there to Peoria for a coupla days, and back to Memphis (via Chicago) next Friday. Saturday (or maybe Sun) I start driving back to Tucson from Memphis. Anyone along the route that wants to buy me a beer can pop a note to my addy or locationsound [at] cox.net. Anyone who wants to show off Dallas BBQ can call me on the fifth at (520)237-9966. Cheers! Chris Babbie MON TX OTR ------------------------------ From: Subject: OTR Again Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 0:40:47 -0400 Message-Id: <20040805044050.HNAU18674.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net [at] smtp.west.cox.net> Hey, I'm on the road, banging through Bush territory. Just passed through Midland, TX, Its so boringly flat that the only thing breaking up the ruler straight horizon (but you can see the vurvature from a highway overpass) is oil derricks and water towers. Oh, yeah, the highrises in Midland, too. Holed up in Abilene for the night, with a belly full of Joe Allens BBQ (I recommend it, along with a Shiner, BTW) and a poolfull of beauty contestants (thought of you, Kristi!). Anyhoo, I just thought I'd pass on the note, as I'll be in Dallas on the fifth for lunch, Memphis for the weekend, and Chicago on Sunday. From there to Peoria for a coupla days, and back to Memphis (via Chicago) next Friday. Saturday (or maybe Sun) I start driving back to Tucson from Memphis. Anyone along the route that wants to buy me a beer can pop a note to my addy or locationsound [at] cox.net. Anyone who wants to show off Dallas BBQ can call me on the fifth at (520)237-9966. Cheers! Chris Babbie MON TX OTR ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040805055116.58201.qmail [at] web14105.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 22:51:16 -0700 (PDT) From: June Abernathy Subject: Re: Life Plans Matt G. writes: >My rationalisaston for going to school (even though I >am planning to join the union) is that having a >degree, I will know what's going on and >have solid theory behind me before I try to put >things in practice. I think your plan is basically good, Matt. What I don't get is why you think that union membership and college are somehow exclusive or redundant. You can pursue union membership and a sound (or whatever) career without a degree, of course, but it is hardly unusual to follow the path you outline either. Many many union members are also college graduates. It sounds as if you are responding to stereotypes that aren't necessarily true. June Abernathy IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL) B.A. Florida State University FOH Electrician The Lion King National Tour (Gazelle) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #92 ****************************