Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2) with PIPE id 4111886; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 03:01:15 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #98 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 03:00:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-pre4 (2004-08-04) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=ham version=3.0.0-pre4 X-Spam-Level: X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4a3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #98 1. Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #97 by "Schaefer, Alan" 2. Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #97 by "Muller, David" 3. Re: Cyclorama conundrum by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 4. Violation by "Paul Guncheon" 5. Anti-Wi-Fi wallpaper by Jerry Durand 6. Re: Anti-Wi-Fi wallpaper by "Paul H. Sullivan" 7. Finding links into a website by "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" 8. Re: Out of Office AutoReply... by Noah Price 9. AutoCAD block problems by Michael Heinicke 10. Re: AutoCAD block problems by "Booth, Dennis" 11. Re: Cyclorama conundrum by Mark O'Brien 12. Re: AutoCAD block problems by Michael Heinicke 13. Re: AutoCAD block problems by "Michael Banvard" 14. Re: AutoCAD block problems by "Michael Feinberg" 15. Re: AutoCAD block problems by "Booth, Dennis" 16. Re: AutoCAD block problems by "Booth, Dennis" 17. Re: AutoCAD block problems by Michael Heinicke 18. Abbott and Costello and the computer by Steve Larson 19. Re: Source 4 spots & Trust Bearings (!) by Paul Puppo 20. Re: Violation by "Frank E. Merrill" 21. Re: AutoCAD block problems by Andy Ciddor 22. Lion King by mat goebel 23. Re: Lion King by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 24. Re: Lion King by "Chad Croteau" 25. Re: Lion King by MissWisc [at] aol.com 26. Re: Cyclorama conundrum by Noah Price 27. Re: Lion King by "Jason" 28. Fw: MADE IN MEXICO by phildqrak [at] mindspring.com 29. neon by Judy 30. Re: MADE IN MEXICO by Noah Price 31. Re: MADE IN MEXICO by Simon Shuker *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <0347ABE6A545D3118E2B0000C10054C20617C1C1 [at] discovery.unv.campus.wpunj.edu> From: "Schaefer, Alan" Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #97 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 06:00:29 -0400 I'm out of the office Tueasday 8/10 and will return early afternoon on 8/11. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3FBB59451418D511B53E00B0D0AADEBDDC9B63 [at] pa-es1.arts.ucla.edu> From: "Muller, David" Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #97 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:57:27 -0700 I will be on vacation from Aug 10 through the 17th. If you need immediate assistance please try Steve Keeley at 310.825.9721 otherwise I will contact you when I return. Thanks ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <12e.4883d72e.2e4a04c9 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:00:25 EDT Subject: Re: Cyclorama conundrum Hi Laurie. Is the 3" pipe steel? If so, then you might want to think about changing it to aluminum. Your system is what I call a roll drop. It's the appropriate system for your situation but the pipe is too heavy. I normally use a 4" aluminum pipe with a wall thickness of 1/16" to 3/32" or so. It will support the drop OK (although at 48' I'd say you were right at the length limit) and isn't too heavy on the goods. The real problem is that aluminum isn't cheap. Then again, neither is steel these days. Call your local metal supply company and see if you can sweet talk them into a donation. Who knows. Maybe they've got some kids at the same school? Zat help? Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002801c47ee4$bb77f260$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Violation Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 04:17:12 -1000 << such wee beasties>> <> <> <> It appears Mr. Merrill is in direct contravention of Stagecraft Mailing List bylaw J-1719-C and I quote: "The use of the term "wee beasties" shall be limited to no more than 3 (three) insertions per post..." Simply a warning this time. An unpopular job but, damnit, somebody has to do it. Laters, Paul "My mother is not shy," Tom mumbled. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.0.20040810073750.03ce0c08 [at] localhost> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:38:32 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Anti-Wi-Fi wallpaper From NASA Tech Briefs: COMPUTER SECURITY Unlike previous methods, a new anti-Wi-Fi wallpaper can stop outsiders from gaining access to private office networks without excluding the use of cell phones. The technology is based on BAE Systems' Frequency Selective Surface (FSS) sheeting, used to shroud radar antennas on warships and aircraft. The wallpaper is made from a 0.1-mm-thick sheet of kapton -- the same plastic used to make flexible PCBs -- coated on each side with a thin film of copper. Most of the copper on one side is removed, leaving a grid of copper crosses. On the other side, matching crosses (turned through 45 degrees) are etched away leaving a copper film with a grid of cross-shaped holes. By carefully changing the size of the crosses and their spacing, the sheet can pass precisely defined frequencies, while blocking all others. While not revealing exactly how the technology works, BAE says that the solution is similar to an optical diffraction grating creating interference to destroy certain light frequencies. Read the complete story at: http://link.abpi.net/l.php?20040810A2 ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com pgp: 45A2 0A52 1D56 70C2 B865 9D5C 83F2 2112 04CE 2B54 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20040810105252.02571c50 [at] pop.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:03:06 -0400 From: "Paul H. Sullivan" Subject: Re: Anti-Wi-Fi wallpaper In-Reply-To: This seems to be a flexabile method of constructing a Faraday Cage in a local field. Depending on the thickness and spacing of the copper strips the ferquency of what signals well pass through the cage can be fairly precisely controlled, thus filtering 802.11 and allowing cell phones to function. The problem is that you would also need to cover the floor, ceiling, windows and doors for the system to fully work. At 07:38 AM 8/10/2004 -0700, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > > From NASA Tech Briefs: > >COMPUTER SECURITY >Unlike previous methods, a new anti-Wi-Fi wallpaper can stop outsiders >from gaining access to private office networks without excluding the >use of cell phones. The technology is based on BAE Systems' Frequency >Selective Surface (FSS) sheeting, used to shroud radar antennas on >warships and aircraft. Paul H. Sullivan Production Manager Times Union Center for the Performing Arts Jacksonville FL 32202 (904) 633-6192 (904) 633-6190 fax ------------------------------ From: "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" Subject: Finding links into a website Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:27:35 -0400 Message-ID: I have to answer to Noah's comment about finding links in through Google (before complimenting Noah on another matter). Indeed you can get _A_ result from Google for a search query like "link:artslynx.org" but that is FAR FAR FAR from a correct result. Alas the "link:" parameter USED to work great in a number of places. Altavista.com was by far the best with this as it would also track subdirectories. In fact when Altavista was doing this well the count for Artslynx.org was over 7,000 links in! But about 6 months ago Alta Vista changed their system. No longer would the link count apply to any sub pages. Then recently they changed their syntax all together. If you were to search there on "link:artslynx.org" it shows only one link in! Now you have to search on "link:http://www.artslynx.org/" (no quotes in any of these for the actual search) to get an accurate count (albeit under the new definition of links-in....to a single page rather than to the domain). To show you how fickle the new systems are, if you leave the last slash off the count is ten links higher. The 1,020 count is about right considering it does not account for links in to the theatre pages, dance pages, etc. Together it would still be about 7,000. I have no idea how Google get's its number of 107 but suspect that the link: parameter is just not working in Google. Hotbot used to have a great links in counting ability but I can no longer find it. The only search engine that seems to still do a good job of this, but in a different format, is Alexa. Alexa has a fun statistic akin to market share and ranking in total web traffic. For instance they rank Artslynx' traffic as 352,866 on the web which sounds bad until compared. For instance USITT ranks over 1,400,000 by this measure. Alexa also gives a count of links in. For Artslynx the count is over 2,000 links in (near 700 for USITT). It seems as though these stats and counts, like for the old Altavista system are system-wide. I've only recently discovered Alexa. It will be interesting to see if the system is good for tracking these stats long term. Now the complement. Noah. Your discussion of redirects and web indexing is great and most useful. Thanks! RichardF ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <8FD8B2A3-EAE2-11D8-AF66-000A958ABBF8 [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Re: Out of Office AutoReply... Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:33:00 -0700 Just a reminder to all, please set your subscription "inactive" before you leave, or make sure your vacation reply will not respond to mailing lists. Better autoreply programs will also only respond once to each sender, so at least there won't be a storm of autoreplies! You can set your subscription to inactive by writing to: stagecraft-inactive [at] theatrical.net This allows your account to post, but the server stops sending you messages. This also maintains your subscription record on the server. I need to update the eb site with this command. Unsubscribing also works if you prefer: stagecraft-off [at] theatrical.net Either way, you should send a subscribe command when you return: stagecraft-subscribe [at] theatrical.net or, for the digest stagecraft-digest [at] theatrical.net Remember that *all* list server requests require email confirmation. The confirmation request should come within a few minutes, and you can usually just hit "reply" and send back your confirmation to complete the request. Thanks, Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | Web issues: stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | | Web site administrator | Personal: noah [at] theprices.net | ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040810154611.31287.qmail [at] web81707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: AutoCAD block problems In-Reply-To: My coworkers and I are having some problems with AutoCAD 2004 and blocks. It is probably just a change in the new version, but we are stumped as to what is going on. The problem is that when working with blocks, the blocks do not work correctly with the layer that they are inserted into. We have blocks that are shown as being on a layer, but they do not turn off with that layer or take on the color properties of the layer like they are supposed to. Can anyone suggest what the problem might be, and/or a possible solution? Thanks! Mike Heinicke ------------------------------ Subject: RE: AutoCAD block problems Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:49:14 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Booth, Dennis" Explode the blocks and see if the individual entities have been assigned colors. =20 The imported block carries it's own set of layers and color assignments, and will maintain those regardless of the layer that you assign it to. DGB Dennis Gill Booth, Technical Director North Carolina School of the Arts=20 School of Design and Production=20 1553 South Main Street=20 PO Box 12189=20 Winston-Salem, NC 27117-2189=20 * Voice: (336)770-3232 x127=20 * FAX: (336)770-3213=20 * Email: boothd [at] ncarts.edu=20 * D&P URL: http://www.ncarts.edu/ncsaprod/designandproduction/=20 * Faculty URL: http://faculty.ncarts.edu/dandp/booth/ -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Michael Heinicke Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:46 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: AutoCAD block problems For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- My coworkers and I are having some problems with AutoCAD 2004 and blocks. It is probably just a change in the new version, but we are stumped as to what is going on. The problem is that when working with blocks, the blocks do not work correctly with the layer that they are inserted into. We have blocks that are shown as being on a layer, but they do not turn off with that layer or take on the color properties of the layer like they are supposed to. Can anyone suggest what the problem might be, and/or a possible solution? Thanks! Mike Heinicke ----------------------------------------------=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <81296666-EAE5-11D8-9C14-000393897332 [at] email.arizona.edu> Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Cyclorama conundrum Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:54:04 -0700 I see a roll-drop in your future. This device will use a tube to roll on, but instead of being on the top, the tube is rolled onto the bottom of the drop. The cyc drop (and you may need a new one) is dead tied to a pipe, like a normal cyc. The tube, perhaps a piece of 6" irrigation tube, will be rolled onto the bottom of the drop, Further pictures, and descriptions can be found in most stagecraft books, as a roll-drop, or Olio drop. Or someone braver than me will try ASCII art Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Aug 9, 2004, at 9:53 PM, Ljhnsn386 [at] aol.com wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > Um...hi, there...Laurie, the lurker here. Have enjoyed your wit and > knowledge for about a year now. Got a cyclorama problem that I need > help trying to solve. I teach a play production class (the backstage > part of doing a play) at a high school in western Colorado. I am > looking to find a way to solve our problem with our cyc's storage > system. When the school was built in 1972, it was not designed with a > real auditorium in mind. In fact, the current auditorium used to be a > science lecture hall with gas lines and water lines running under the > stage and...well, it's all too detailed to go into. Anyhow, we have > no fly space, so the cyc is hand- winched down like a Roman shade. > The difference is the cyc is in-between the cables on either side of > the pole that rolls down and weighs down the cyc to give it that taut > sky effect. The problem is the pipe is maybe 1/8 inch steel, 48 feet > 8 inches long, and 3 inches diameter. The pole is not supported in > the center, so it sags and the weight of the pole tears the cyc up at > the top left and right at the buckram. I have looked into other > possible delivery systems, but this one, as flawed as it is, seems to > work best for our limitations (I think). What I am hunting for is a > way to either keep the pole from sagging or find a type of metal that > may still sag but is lighter and would keep the cyc from tearing. > I've been told a middle cable to support the pole would not work. Any > suggestions? You may answer off-list if you want. Thanks in advance. > > Laurie Johnson > ljhnsn386 [at] aol.com > Fruita Monument HS Drama > Fruita, CO ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040810155944.92745.qmail [at] web81706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:59:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: Re: AutoCAD block problems In-Reply-To: --- "Booth, Dennis" wrote: > Explode the blocks and see if the individual > entities have been assigned > colors. > > The imported block carries it's own set of layers > and color assignments, > and will maintain those regardless of the layer that > you assign it to. When I explode the block, the individual entities show different layer assignments, and the colors match the other layer's color. Is there a way around this other than exploding the block then recreating it? It would seem to me that some of the functionality of a block is lost if it retains some of the characteristics of other layers. Is this something new in 2004? Or have I just not run into this problem before now? Thanks, Mike Heinicke ------------------------------ From: "Michael Banvard" Subject: RE: AutoCAD block problems Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:08:45 -0500 Organization: Sapsis Rigging Midwest Message-ID: <000001c47ef4$5388a2c0$6501a8c0 [at] Gelert> In-Reply-To: > Is this something new in 2004? Or have I just not run > into this problem before now? > > Thanks, > Mike Heinicke It's a rather old problem. I think that I ran into it with v.11. Blocks are a static collection of information. This allows for accurate copying and reproduction, but as you say it tends to ruin the layer workings. - Michael. Michael J. Banvard SRI Midwest Saint Louis, Missouri (866) 773-1174 (314) 629-3644 (314) 773-1174 fax http://www.sapsis-rigging.com ------------------------------ From: "Michael Feinberg" Subject: Re: AutoCAD block problems Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:44:23 -0400 Message-Id: <20040810173415.M63186 [at] joyce.eng.yale.edu> In-Reply-To: References:

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:59:44 -0700 (PDT), Michael Heinicke wrote > When I explode the block, the individual entities show > different layer assignments, and the colors match the > other layer's color. > Is there a way around this other than exploding the > block then recreating it? It would seem to me that > some of the functionality of a block is lost if it > retains some of the characteristics of other layers. > Is this something new in 2004? Or have I just not run > into this problem before now? If you want the elements inside the block to function as if they are on the same layer as the block is, you need to put them on layer 0 (the 'special' layer.) Their effective layer will then be whatever the layer the block is on (colors, on/off, lineweight, etc...) If elements are on a layer besides 0, they will always follow the behavior of that specific layer regardless of what layer the block is on. This is deliberate functionality on the part of AutoCAD and with carefully thought out layer assignments can be very useful. For colors, you can assign elements in a block to a specific color (and they will always have that color), "by layer" (and they will follow the layer they are on [or if they are on layer 0, they will follow the layer the block is on], or "by block" (and they will follow whatever color the block is assigned.) This behavior goes back at least as far as 2000, which is the version I started with. As for fixing your old blocks, if you have the full version (not LT) you can use double click on a block to tunnel in and edit it (I think the command is _blockedit,) select everything, change it layer 0, save the changes, and your block will be fixed. If you have LT, you'll need to explode each block, modify it, and then redefine it. HTH. [I'm _pretty_ sure the above information is accurate, but it's been more than a year since I was using AutoCAD every day, so my memory may be a little off.) -Michael Feinberg, CTS ------------------------------ Subject: RE: AutoCAD block problems Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:45:20 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Booth, Dennis" Always had it... always will, prolly. DGB Dennis Gill Booth, Technical Director North Carolina School of the Arts=20 School of Design and Production=20 1553 South Main Street=20 PO Box 12189=20 Winston-Salem, NC 27117-2189=20 * Voice: (336)770-3232 x127=20 * FAX: (336)770-3213=20 * Email: boothd [at] ncarts.edu=20 * D&P URL: http://www.ncarts.edu/ncsaprod/designandproduction/=20 * Faculty URL: http://faculty.ncarts.edu/dandp/booth/ -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Michael Heinicke Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 12:00 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: AutoCAD block problems For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- --- "Booth, Dennis" wrote: > Explode the blocks and see if the individual > entities have been assigned > colors. =20 >=20 > The imported block carries it's own set of layers > and color assignments, > and will maintain those regardless of the layer that > you assign it to. When I explode the block, the individual entities show different layer assignments, and the colors match the other layer's color. Is there a way around this other than exploding the block then recreating it? It would seem to me that some of the functionality of a block is lost if it retains some of the characteristics of other layers. Is this something new in 2004? Or have I just not run into this problem before now? Thanks, Mike Heinicke ----------------------------------------------=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: RE: AutoCAD block problems Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:47:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Booth, Dennis" Thanks, Michael. I believe you are correct about the use of layer 0. DGB Dennis Gill Booth, Technical Director North Carolina School of the Arts=20 School of Design and Production=20 1553 South Main Street=20 PO Box 12189=20 Winston-Salem, NC 27117-2189=20 * Voice: (336)770-3232 x127=20 * FAX: (336)770-3213=20 * Email: boothd [at] ncarts.edu=20 * D&P URL: http://www.ncarts.edu/ncsaprod/designandproduction/=20 * Faculty URL: http://faculty.ncarts.edu/dandp/booth/ -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Michael Feinberg Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:44 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: AutoCAD block problems For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:59:44 -0700 (PDT), Michael Heinicke wrote > When I explode the block, the individual entities show > different layer assignments, and the colors match the > other layer's color. > Is there a way around this other than exploding the > block then recreating it? It would seem to me that > some of the functionality of a block is lost if it > retains some of the characteristics of other layers. > Is this something new in 2004? Or have I just not run > into this problem before now? If you want the elements inside the block to function as if they are on the=20 same layer as the block is, you need to put them on layer 0 (the 'special'=20 layer.) Their effective layer will then be whatever the layer the block is=20 on (colors, on/off, lineweight, etc...) If elements are on a layer besides=20 0, they will always follow the behavior of that specific layer regardless of=20 what layer the block is on. This is deliberate functionality on the part of=20 AutoCAD and with carefully thought out layer assignments can be very useful. -Michael Feinberg, CTS ----------------------------------------------=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040810185336.12899.qmail [at] web81710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:53:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: Re: AutoCAD block problems In-Reply-To: --- Michael Feinberg wrote: > If you want the elements inside the block to > function as if they are on the > same layer as the block is, you need to put them on > layer 0 (the 'special' > layer.) Their effective layer will then be whatever > the layer the block is > on (colors, on/off, lineweight, etc...) If elements > are on a layer besides > 0, they will always follow the behavior of that > specific layer regardless of > what layer the block is on. This is deliberate > functionality on the part of > AutoCAD and with carefully thought out layer > assignments can be very useful. > > For colors, you can assign elements in a block to a > specific color (and they > will always have that color), "by layer" (and they > will follow the layer they > are on [or if they are on layer 0, they will follow > the layer the block is > on], or "by block" (and they will follow whatever > color the block is > assigned.) This behavior goes back at least as far > as 2000, which is the > version I started with. > > As for fixing your old blocks, if you have the full > version (not LT) you can > use double click on a block to tunnel in and edit it > (I think the command is > _blockedit,) select everything, change it layer 0, > save the changes, and your > block will be fixed. If you have LT, you'll need to > explode each block, > modify it, and then redefine it. HTH. > > [I'm _pretty_ sure the above information is > accurate, but it's been more than > a year since I was using AutoCAD every day, so my > memory may be a little off.) > > -Michael Feinberg, CTS Thanks to all who have made suggestions on this issue. I guess I've just been lucky to this point to have used blocks created in Layer 0. After digging through the AutoCAD help system, I discovered pretty much the same thing that Michael just mentioned about block properties. Now to try what he suggested for how to correct the situation... Mike Heinicke ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:01:24 -0400 Subject: Abbott and Costello and the computer From: Steve Larson Message-ID: >ABBOTT: Super Duper Computer Store. Can I help you? > >COSTELLO: Thanks. I'm setting up an office in my den and I'm thinking >about buying a computer. > >ABBOTT: Mac? > >COSTELLO: No, the name's Lou. > >ABBOTT: Your computer? > >COSTELLO: I don't own a computer. I want to buy one. > >ABBOTT: Mac? > >COSTELLO: I told you, my name's Lou. > >ABBOTT: What about Windows? > >COSTELLO: Why? Will it get stuffy in here? > >ABBOTT: Do you want a computer with Windows? > >COSTELLO: I don't know. What will I see when I look in the windows? > >ABBOTT: Wallpaper. > >COSTELLO: Never mind the windows. I need a computer and software. > >ABBOTT: Software for Windows? > >COSTELLO: No. On the computer! I need something I can use to write >proposals, track expenses and run my business. What have you got? > >ABBOTT: Office. > >COSTELLO: Yeah, for my office. Can you recommend anything? > >ABBOTT: I just did. > >COSTELLO: You just did what? > >ABBOTT: Recommend something. > >COSTELLO: You recommended something? > >ABBOTT: Yes. > >COSTELLO: For my office? > >ABBOTT: Yes. > >COSTELLO: OK, what did you recommend for my office? > >ABBOTT: Office. > >COSTELLO: Yes, for my office! > >ABBOTT: I recommend Office with Windows. > >COSTELLO: I already have an office with windows! OK, lets just say I'm >sitting at my computer and I want to type a proposal. What do I need? > >ABBOTT: Word. > >COSTELLO: What word? > >ABBOTT: Word in Office. > >COSTELLO: The only word in office is office. > >ABBOTT: The Word in Office for Windows. > >COSTELLO: Which word in office for windows? > >ABBOTT: The Word you get when you click the blue "W." > >COSTELLO: I'm going to click your blue "w" if you don't start with some >straight answers. OK, forget that. Can I watch movies on the Internet? > >ABBOTT: Yes, you want Real One. > >COSTELLO: Maybe a real one, maybe a cartoon. What I watch is none of your >business. Just tell me what I need! > >ABBOTT: Real One. > >COSTELLO: If it's a long movie I also want to see reel 2, 3 & 4. Can I >watch them? > >ABBOTT: Of course. > >COSTELLO: Great! With what? > >ABBOTT: Real One. > >COSTELLO: OK, I'm at my computer and I want to watch a movie. What do I >do? > >ABBOTT: You click the blue "1." > >COSTELLO: I click the blue one what? > >ABBOTT: The blue "1." > >COSTELLO: Is that different from the blue w? > >ABBOTT: The blue "1" is Real One and the blue "W" is Word. > >COSTELLO: What word? > >ABBOTT: The Word in Office for Windows. > >COSTELLO: But there's three words in "office for windows"! > >ABBOTT: No, just one. But it's the most popular Word in the world. > >COSTELLO: It is? > >ABBOTT: Yes, but to be fair, there aren't many other Words left. It pretty >much wiped out all the other Words out there. > >COSTELLO: And that word is real one? > >ABBOTT: Real One has nothing to do with Word. Real One isn't even part of >Office. > >COSTELLO: STOP! Don't start that again. What about financial bookkeeping? > You have anything I can track my money with? > >ABBOTT: Money. > >COSTELLO: That's right. What do you have? > >ABBOTT: Money. > >COSTELLO: I need money to track my money? > >ABBOTT: It comes bundled with your computer. > >COSTELLO: What's bundled with my computer? > >ABBOTT: Money. > >COSTELLO: Money comes with my computer? > >ABBOTT: Yes. No extra charge. > >COSTELLO: I get a bundle of money with my computer? How much? > >ABBOTT: One copy. > >COSTELLO: Isn't it illegal to copy money? > >ABBOTT: Microsoft gave us a license to copy money. > >COSTELLO: They can give you a license to copy money? > >ABBOTT: Why not? THEY OWN IT! > > >A FEW DAYS LATER . . . > >ABBOTT: Super Duper Computer Store. Can I help you? > >COSTELLO: How do I turn my computer off? > >ABBOTT: Click on "START" ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: From: Paul Puppo Subject: Re: Source 4 spots & Trust Bearings (!) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:34:39 -0700 Obviously I meant to say: Thrust, Thrust bearings. COSTELLO: I'd like to buy some trust bearings please. ABBOT: Well, you can trust all of our bearings, sir. Which direction would you like to go? Sorry, Paul Puppo ILLUMINEERING 547 Green Street San Francisco, CA 94133-3905 (415) 397-8776 phone/fax http://www.Nifty-Gadgets.com mailto:Paul [at] Nifty-Gadgets.com On Aug 9, 2004, at 5:01 PM, Paul Puppo wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > I've always wanted to use "Trust Bearings" (try > http://wwwMcMaster.com) in between the yoke bolt and the yoke and > between the yoke and the C-clamp. That would make it very tight > (read: no wobble), and still have lots of freedom of movement for the > pan axis. > > Paul Puppo > ILLUMINEERING > > 547 Green Street > San Francisco, CA > 94133-3905 > > (415) 397-8776 phone/fax > http://www.Nifty-Gadgets.com > > mailto:Paul [at] Nifty-Gadgets.com > > > On Aug 9, 2004, at 7:34 AM, Stefanie Christensen wrote: > >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Hello All! >> >> Using a Source 4 as a Follow Spot. I have seen this done in the past >> and want to try it for an upcoming production of Aint Misbehavin. My >> question is what accessories are needed and required to do this >> conversion and were is a good place to look for them. I know there >> is some type of swivel base for movement and a heat resistent handle >> that mounts on the back. What other fun things are there to try? >> How do I ensure smooth movement. >> >> Please respond off list to be sure I get your answers. >> Thanks >> >> Stefanie P Christensen >> Technical Director >> Charleston Stage Company >> 19 Warren Street >> Charleston SC 29403 >> >> (843)577-0868 >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:09:41 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <1418858464.20040810190941 [at] TCON.net> Subject: Re: Violation In-Reply-To: References:

Howdy! Tuesday, August 10, 2004, Paul Guncheon wrote: PG> "The use of the term "wee beasties" shall be limited to no more than 3 PG> (three) insertions per post..." I apologize to all. I should have reviewed the legal section of the Specifications before responding... Wasn't it Anton Van Leewenhook that first used the aforementioned and overused terminology for microbes? Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Eastablished 1946 Indianapolis 317: 255 4666 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net ------------------------------ Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20040811102144.03e48ad8 [at] pop3.kilowatt.com.au> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:35:27 +1000 From: Andy Ciddor Subject: Re: AutoCAD block problems In-Reply-To: References: At 04:53 11.08.2004, Mike Heinicke wrote: >Thanks to all who have made suggestions on this issue. >I guess I've just been lucky to this point to have >used blocks created in Layer 0. >After digging through the AutoCAD help system, I >discovered pretty much the same thing that Michael >just mentioned about block properties. Now to try what >he suggested for how to correct the situation... This behaviour goes back to at least Version 2.46 (mid 80's) which is as far back as I go with AutoCAD. It can actually be of great value if you plan to exploit it. In the late eighties, at the Western Australian Academy of Performing Arts, we developed a series of standardised layers and blocks for use in lighting plots. The luminaire outlines were on one layer, colour gel on another, and so on for circuits, dimmers, soft patch channels, focus notes, rigging notes, lamp type, etc, etc. This enabled us to switch off those elements of the drawing that were either not important or not required for a particular plot or project. If, for example, there was no patch system in a particular venue, then circuit numbers were switched off and only dimmer and control channel numbers used. It also simplified data extraction for use with other documentation systems. Andy ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41197E55.4090802 [at] comcast.net> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:03:01 -0700 From: mat goebel Cc: THEATRE-SOUND [at] LISTSERV.AOL.COM (theatre sound) Subject: Lion King Who's seen the lion king? I'm going on my birthday (20 August), and want to know if there's any specific absolutely amazing thing to look out for? So far I've hear mentions of the sunrise and stampede scenes. Being a sound guy, I'm especially excited to experience Tony Meola's sound design. Is anyone on the list working the show? -- Mat G. Entertainment Technical Services Paramount's Great America "Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln." ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:08:41 EDT Subject: Re: Lion King In a message dated 8/10/04 10:04:01 PM, matg [at] comcast.net writes: << Who's seen the lion king? I'm going on my birthday (20 August), and want to know if there's any specific absolutely amazing thing to look out for? So far I've hear mentions of the sunrise and stampede scenes. Being a sound guy, I'm especially excited to experience Tony Meola's sound design. Is anyone on the list working the show? >> Not to be a wise guy or anything, but isn't theatre, especially shows like The Lion King, all about the magic? I don't want to spoil anything for you by giving stuff away. It should all be a surprise. Go, enjoy, be amazed. Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001501c47f4c$f6dbd2a0$6501a8c0 [at] cz1lbfinkbrlun> From: "Chad Croteau" References: Subject: Re: Lion King Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:43:19 -0400 Hey all. Gotta say I agree with Mr. Sapsis. I've seen Lion King twice. The first time was definitely better, because of the wow factor. The second time I saw it, I found myself anticipating various things and didn't enjoy it as much because there was no surprise. Enjoy the show, and keep your eyes open. There's lots to see! Chad ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:08 PM Subject: Re: Lion King > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > In a message dated 8/10/04 10:04:01 PM, matg [at] comcast.net writes: > > << Who's seen the lion king? I'm going on my birthday (20 August), and want > to know if there's any specific absolutely amazing thing to look out > for? So far I've hear mentions of the sunrise and stampede scenes. Being > a sound guy, I'm especially excited to experience Tony Meola's sound > design. Is anyone on the list working the show? >> > > Not to be a wise guy or anything, but isn't theatre, especially shows like > The Lion King, all about the magic? I don't want to spoil anything for you by > giving stuff away. It should all be a surprise. > > Go, enjoy, be amazed. > > Bill S. ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <78.5df526ee.2e4ae725 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:06:13 EDT Subject: Re: Lion King Cc: matg [at] comcast.net Mat - I second what Bill said. Though if you've seen the movie, you'll know the plot. The "magic" will be easy for you to figure out, but it's done so smoothly you can really appreciate the artistry. I'd pay top price see it again. Consider that my highest recommendation! And may I suggest... because you are a theatre insider... be a more-enthusiastic-than-average audience member. I saw "Big River" in Dallas, TX and "Oliver!" in Milwaukee, WI in the last month and though I was the only one understanding the jokes. Sounded like no one else was laughing out loud. Folks next to me might snicker a little, but the actors can't hear that. As you know, actors get that energy and bounce it back to the audience. You'll have plenty of opportunity to be an energy-giver at Lion King! Don't be afraid to start the applause. Kristi ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <50B327D2-EB4C-11D8-9CFC-000A958ABBF8 [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Re: Cyclorama conundrum Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:10:01 -0700 I'm helping Laurie figure out how to post from AOL... that encoded message was using AOL's Webmail. Here's a repost for the digest readers, and any single-message people using mail programs that don't automatically decode. Noah On Aug 9, 2004, at 9:53 PM, Ljhnsn386 [at] aol.com wrote: > Um...hi, there...Laurie, the lurker here. Have enjoyed your wit and > knowledge for about a year now. Got a cyclorama problem that I need > help trying to solve. I teach a play production class (the backstage > part of doing a play) at a high school in western Colorado. I am > looking to find a way to solve our problem with our cyc's storage > system. When the school was built in 1972, it was not designed with a > real auditorium in mind. In fact, the current auditorium used to be a > science lecture hall with gas lines and water lines running under the > stage and...well, it's all too detailed to go into. Anyhow, we have > no fly space, so the cyc is hand- winched down like a Roman shade. > The difference is the cyc is in-between the cables on either side of > the pole that rolls down and weighs down the cyc to give it that taut > sky effect. The problem is the pipe is maybe 1/8 inch steel, 48 feet > 8 inches long, and 3 inches diameter. The pole is not supported in > the center, so it sags and the weight of the pole tears the cyc up at > the top left and right at the buckram. I have looked into other > possible delivery systems, but this one, as flawed as it is, seems to > work best for our limitations (I think). What I am hunting for is a > way to either keep the pole from sagging or find a type of metal that > may still sag but is lighter and would keep the cyc from tearing. > I've been told a middle cable to support the pole would not work. Any > suggestions? You may answer off-list if you want. Thanks in advance. > > Laurie Johnson > ljhnsn386 [at] aol.com > Fruita Monument HS Drama > Fruita, CO ------------------------------ From: "Jason" References: Subject: Re: Lion King Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:57:22 -0700 Message-ID: The best day of the year to have a birthday... Dude! From: "mat goebel" Subject: Lion King > Who's seen the lion king? I'm going on my birthday (20 August), and want > to know if there's any specific absolutely amazing thing to look out > for? So far I've hear mentions of the sunrise and stampede scenes. Being > a sound guy, I'm especially excited to experience Tony Meola's sound > design. Is anyone on the list working the show? > > -- > Mat G. > Entertainment Technical Services > Paramount's Great America > "Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln." > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <33512897.1092206867183.JavaMail.root [at] wamui02.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 02:47:46 -0400 (EDT) From: phildqrak [at] mindspring.com Cc: mailer [at] mailer.prospero.com, angela.bond [at] verizon.net, ahicks5146 [at] hotmail.com Cc: News [at] InsideApple.Apple.com, apple_enews [at] applenews.lists.apple.com Cc: daybreakodyssey [at] charter.net, Billy [at] Setwear.Com, brenda [at] lijewski.com Cc: MetroAlto [at] comcast.net, pokorny7 [at] msn.com, customerservice [at] pplsi.com Cc: customer.support [at] logitech.globalsupport.com, Dyargie [at] aol.com Cc: danamdkny [at] hotmail.com, deeadee [at] msn.com, Dix63 [at] aol.com Cc: webmaster [at] fluke.com, geomusic [at] comcast.net Cc: bellfamschool [at] earthlink.net, jerryp252000 [at] yahoo.com Cc: alfie218 [at] aol.com, jamackay [at] aol.com, lisakingd [at] yahoo.com Cc: SpiralHedgeFae [at] copper.net, smallone [at] tnh.net Cc: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com, fullboat831 [at] aol.com Cc: spinner33 [at] earthlink.com, Membership [at] nrahq.org, vpsot [at] sunline.net Cc: pgproductions [at] comcast.net, paul [at] masck.com, rsudik [at] hotmail.com Cc: jesrtrent [at] sprint.ca, SRO_Newsletter [at] newsletters.primediabusiness.com Cc: stagecraft-digest [at] theatrical.net Cc: stagecraft-request [at] theatrical.net, Mrnyny [at] peoplepc.com Cc: orders [at] surefire.com, webmaster [at] sandiegomedia.com Cc: karensdm [at] surefire.com, lemontjo2 [at] aol.com Cc: tools [at] toolsforstagecraft.com, vmail [at] vari-lite.com Cc: walkmanreg [at] am.sony.com Subject: Fw: MADE IN MEXICO -----Forwarded Message----- From: Doug and Lori Sent: Aug 10, 2004 9:59 PM To: Ron Allen Smoak , Mike Hill , Marcia Wise , Laurie Cowart , Kim Roberts , Gwen Hooffstetter , Edward & Nancy Gilder , Diane Lavender , Diane Lavender , Cathy Buskirk , Buffi Mixson , Brad Pattison , Bill and Cindy Horton Subject: Fw: MADE IN MEXICO Made in Mexico Shortly after reading the following e-mail content, I happened to look at the label of a jar of Heinz sandwich slice pickles. Yep.... Made in Mexico" Check some of your Heinz products. "Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S. corporations leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is right, because that has happened. However, he is trying to blame it on George W. Bush. As far as I know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this country because he is not the owner of a single factory. That cannot be said about Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry. According to the Wall Street Journal, the Kerry's own 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific. In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases four factories in Europe and four in Asia. Also, they own 27 factories in North America, some of which are in Mexico and the Caribbean. 80% of Heinz products are made overseas. I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost their jobs when these plants relocated in foreign countries. I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers in the United States. Of course they're not. However, Kerry demands that other companies that relocate should pay the same benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married to the owner? If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back to America? Of course they won't. They're making millions off that cheap labor. Please e-mail to at least 5 people. Thank you and make your vote count..... Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. Thank you. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4119D3A8.2050408 [at] post.tau.ac.il> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:07:04 +0200 From: Judy Cc: kruling [at] esta.org Subject: neon Karl Ruling wrote: >Your experience with dimming neons is interesting. I wouldn't count >on it working all the time. I would imagine that a neon tube >transformer looks like an inductive load to a dimmer. The dimmer will >handle it if it's designed for inductive loads, or if it (fortunately >for you) uses SCRs rather than triacs and applies a trigger current >to the gate of the power device through the entire desired conduction >interval or has a snubber circuit (small capacitor/resistor network) >on it that happens to work with that inductive load. > It did seem to work all the time. I used it once with a show that toured and ran for quite a while. They didn't have any problems, I think. The show had three big neon signs (only problem was the heavy transformers which annoyed the crew!) And with another show that had a long, long strip of neon in the set. And yet another show where I used three strings of the tiny neon indicator lights. If you know WHY these work on dimmers whereas fluorescents don't I'd be grateful for the information. In fact I believe all three of these shows used pre-digital dimmers, which had 2 SCRs in inverse parallel, choke, etc. thanks Judy ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <8520EAFC-EB68-11D8-9CFC-000A958ABBF8 [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Re: MADE IN MEXICO Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:31:55 -0700 In case there was any doubt, chain letters are not tolerated. He won't be posting again any time soon. Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:05:43 +0400 From: Simon Shuker Subject: RE: MADE IN MEXICO In-reply-to: Message-id: <0I290022VT1M7U [at] apmail4.emirates.net.ae> As someone that lives in the UNITED ARAB EMIRATES this nothing to do with stagecraft or my politics. Please desist from this Spam. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of phildqrak [at] mindspring.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:48 AM To: Stagecraft Cc: mailer [at] mailer.prospero.com; angela.bond [at] verizon.net; ahicks5146 [at] hotmail.com; News [at] InsideApple.Apple.com; apple_enews [at] applenews.lists.apple.com; daybreakodyssey [at] charter.net; Billy [at] Setwear.Com; brenda [at] lijewski.com; MetroAlto [at] comcast.net; pokorny7 [at] msn.com; customerservice [at] pplsi.com; customer.support [at] logitech.globalsupport.com; Dyargie [at] aol.com; danamdkny [at] hotmail.com; deeadee [at] msn.com; Dix63 [at] aol.com; webmaster [at] fluke.com; geomusic [at] comcast.net; bellfamschool [at] earthlink.net; jerryp252000 [at] yahoo.com; alfie218 [at] aol.com; jamackay [at] aol.com; lisakingd [at] yahoo.com; SpiralHedgeFae [at] copper.net; smallone [at] tnh.net; Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com; fullboat831 [at] aol.com; spinner33 [at] earthlink.com; Membership [at] nrahq.org; vpsot [at] sunline.net; pgproductions [at] comcast.net; paul [at] masck.com; rsudik [at] hotmail.com; jesrtrent [at] sprint.ca; SRO_Newsletter [at] newsletters.primediabusiness.com; stagecraft-digest [at] theatrical.net; stagecraft-request [at] theatrical.net; Mrnyny [at] peoplepc.com; orders [at] surefire.com; webmaster [at] sandiegomedia.com; karensdm [at] surefire.com; lemontjo2 [at] aol.com; tools [at] toolsforstagecraft.com; vmail [at] vari-lite.com; walkmanreg [at] am.sony.com Subject: Fw: MADE IN MEXICO For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- -----Forwarded Message----- From: Doug and Lori Sent: Aug 10, 2004 9:59 PM To: Ron Allen Smoak , Mike Hill , Marcia Wise , Laurie Cowart , Kim Roberts , Gwen Hooffstetter , Edward & Nancy Gilder , Diane Lavender , Diane Lavender , Cathy Buskirk , Buffi Mixson , Brad Pattison , Bill and Cindy Horton Subject: Fw: MADE IN MEXICO Made in Mexico Shortly after reading the following e-mail content, I happened to look at the label of a jar of Heinz sandwich slice pickles. Yep.... Made in Mexico" Check some of your Heinz products. "Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S. corporations leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is right, because that has happened. However, he is trying to blame it on George W. Bush. As far as I know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this country because he is not the owner of a single factory. That cannot be said about Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry. According to the Wall Street Journal, the Kerry's own 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific. In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases four factories in Europe and four in Asia. Also, they own 27 factories in North America, some of which are in Mexico and the Caribbean. 80% of Heinz products are made overseas. I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost their jobs when these plants relocated in foreign countries. I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers in the United States. Of course they're not. However, Kerry demands that other companies that relocate should pay the same benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married to the owner? If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back to America? Of course they won't. They're making millions off that cheap labor. Please e-mail to at least 5 people. Thank you and make your vote count..... Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. Thank you. ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #98 ****************************