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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #105

 1. Re: Drop Rental
    by "CATHERINE BRUMM" <cbrumm [at] nhcs.k12.nc.us>
 2. Re: Drop Rental
    by "Jonathan Wills" <Jonathan [at] WillsLighting.com>
 3. Used Lighting Instruments
    by "Cartwright, Kenneth" <KCARTWRIGHT [at] CSBSJU.EDU>
 4. Re: Congratulations
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 5. Looking for sound materials for BLEACHER BUMS
    by "Jim Trenberth" <jtrenber [at] iastate.edu>
 6. Sound Position Announcement
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
 7. Re: Sound Position Announcement
    by "Douglas McCracken" <dbasMcCracken [at] hawaii.rr.com>
 8. Wildfire fixtures
    by usctd [at] columbia.sc
 9. Wildfire fixtures
    by usctd [at] columbia.sc
10. Wildfire fixtures
    by usctd [at] columbia.sc
11. Mackie or not
    by "Dotson, Shelley M." <dotsons [at] umr.edu>
12. Re: Mackie or not
    by "Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
13. Re: Mackie or not
    by Chris Warner <bearz2 [at] cox.net>
14. Re: Sound Position Announcement
    by "Andrew Vance" <remy [at] io.com>
15. Re: Anti Cellular wallpaper
    by "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
16. Re: Lion King
    by "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
17. Re: evacuation
    by "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
18. Model Lighting / Mini Light Lab
    by "Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
19. Re: CAD vs. Hand
    by Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
20. Re: Model Lighting / Mini Light Lab
    by "Scott C. Parker" <stagecraftlist [at] hstech.org>
21. Re: Mackie or not
    by mat goebel <matg [at] comcast.net>
22. Membership in IATSE local 107
    by mat goebel <matg [at] comcast.net>
23. Re: Sound Position Announcement
    by "John Gibilisco" <johngib [at] cox.net>

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Message-Id: <s121bb51.095 [at] mail.nhcs.k12.nc.us>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:01:11 -0400
From: "CATHERINE BRUMM" <cbrumm [at] nhcs.k12.nc.us>
Subject: Re: Drop Rental

There is also Charles Stewart which is www.charleshtewart.com 


Catherine K. Brumm, General Manager
Minnie Evans Arts Center
Wilmington, NC
P910-)790-2360 x821
F)910-790-2356
cbrumm [at] nhcs.k12.nc.us
www.geocities.com/nhcscbrumm/index.html

>>> jonares [at] hevanet.com 08/16/04 06:36PM >>>

> The archives search isnt working so can anyone list some websites
with
> online catalogues for drops besides grosh.  Thanks


Google is your friend. ...up
come a dozen great companies such as Kenmark, Tobins Lake, Cobalt
Studios,
and of course Grosh.

     -- Jon Ares
Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts
www.hevanet.com/acreative 


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Message-Id: <200408171223.i7HCNDJM027153 [at] smtp-mtc05.proxy.aol.com>
From: "Jonathan Wills" <Jonathan [at] WillsLighting.com>
Subject: Re: Drop Rental
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:22:56 -0400
Organization: Jonathan Wills

Rob,

I have used:
Tobins Lake www.Tobinslake.com  
Charles H Stewart www.CharlesHStewart.com
Schell Scenic www.Schellscenic.com (have to download catalog)

These are all I can think of off the top of my head. I am also in the search
for a backdrop so I now there are more.

Thank you,

Jonathan Wills
Wills Lighting and Stage
www.WillsLighting.com
423.432.8082



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Subject: Used Lighting Instruments
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:22:01 -0500
Message-ID: <DDFDED6F478E3742A6DF08F6A38949191ADB0C [at] EMPMAIL.ad.csbsju.edu>
From: "Cartwright, Kenneth" <KCARTWRIGHT [at] CSBSJU.EDU>

Hello, I am Ken Cartwright and I am the Technical Director at Saint
John's University in Minnesota.  I have several lighting instruments
that haven't been used in a while, that I would like to sell.  They are
all in good condition.

10 - 6x9 Strand Century 2209
11 - 6x12 Strand Century 2212
19 - 6x16 Strand Century 2216
5 - 40 degree Strand Lekolite
8 - 6x9 Altman 1kL6-40
12 - 6x22 Altman 360Q

I also have a Strand GSX lightboard, 150 pin-out 3 pin twist male newer
style connectors, and 125 pin-out 3 pin twist female newer style
connectors for sale.

If you are interested in any of these, contact me off list at;

Ken Cartwright
kcartwright [at] csbsju.edu
320-363-3312

Thanks,

Ken

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Message-ID: <000d01c48462$ba240240$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC>
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
References: <list-4155532 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Congratulations
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 04:01:42 -1000

<<Everyone's doing well!

<http://www.theprices.net/ryan/>

August 14, 2004
1:18 AM
7lb 9oz
19 1/2"

Noah & Heather>>

<<Congratulations and best wishes!!

(Born on my dad's birthday)>>

Oh yeah?  I was born on the same day as MY birthday.  How's that for
coincidence?

What?  Oh...

Congratulations indeed.  Try and get some sleep.   The adventure has begun.

Laters,

Paul

"I love Velveeta," Tom said craftily.





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From: "Jim Trenberth" <jtrenber [at] iastate.edu>
Subject: Looking for sound materials for BLEACHER BUMS
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:20:54 -0500
Message-ID: <KIEGLMNEBCCIMNLECMODGEBDDEAA.jtrenber [at] iastate.edu>

Iowa State University Theatre will be presenting BLEACHER BUMS September 24-
October 3.

I am looking for an existing sound design for the production. If you have
any leads or are willing to rent this material please contact me OFFLIST at
jtrenber [at] iastate.edu

Thanks




********************************************
The way to capture a student's attention is with a demonstration where
 there is a possibility the teacher will die.	Jewel Walker

Jim Trenberth
Production Manager/Lighting Designer
Iowa State University Theatre
(515)268-8903(H)
(515)294-0192(O)(515)294-2652 FAX
jtrenber [at] iastate.edu
www.theatre.iastate.edu

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040817101550.0182d5c8 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:15:50
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Sound Position Announcement

>Sound Designer/Engineer/Assistant Electrician

Assistant Electrician?  This is really a joke, right?  You have your sound
designer working for your ME when they hang and focus?  Just curious, what
are the lighting designer and the set designer doing when this happens?
Does the director help in the hang too, or are they busy sweeping the lobby.
Look, I'm all for everyone helping everyone. but putting the
designer/engineer in another dept's. labor pool is really giving him a hard
time establishing any real credibility.  I am not a rank and file type of
guy, but this is really a bit silly.  I guess it simply reflects the
present paradygm's view of sound, and you're either part of the solution or
you're part of the problem.
Any "Sound Designer" that would take this gig under these circumstances is
either the nicest guy you ever want to meet, (yeah, right) or he has no
other options.  I wouldn't bet the house on his credentials or his product.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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From: "Douglas McCracken" <dbasMcCracken [at] hawaii.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Sound Position Announcement
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:51:23 -1000
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAFqUFjfG/TUGcMo33xxxhcMKAAAAQAAAAuqs8n//7wEaFWBWfG6AJIAEAAAAA [at] hawaii.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-4157711 [at] prxy.net>

 

> -----Original Message-----
> Look, I'm all for everyone helping everyone. but putting the 
> designer/engineer in another dept's. labor pool is really 
> giving him a hard time establishing any real credibility.  I 
> am not a rank and file type of guy, but this is really a bit 
> silly.  I guess it simply reflects the present paradygm's 
> view of sound, and you're either part of the solution or 
> you're part of the problem.

This just perpetuates the white glove sound engineer stereotype. And video
is right behind them. You don't even give the institution credit for putting
the job description up front. Most would just tell you after your employment
begins. ("Oh, by the way...") And I would think that a sound person who
could work LX would give them MORE credibility. As a person who can work as
a team. 
Don't get me wrong. I have a lot of respect for Audio Engineers and their
skills. But, come on.


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Message-ID: <2081.129.252.241.105.1092768050.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:40:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Wildfire fixtures
From: usctd [at] columbia.sc

Anybody out there willing to rent four wildfire instruments for a
reasonable (uh, read cheap) amount?  Right now we are looking at $900 per
to RENT.  They cost almost as much to purchase.  Looking for the 250W
versions.

Please contact off list.
-- 
Eric Rouse
TD-University of SC, Columbia
Freelance Foyboy



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Message-ID: <2087.129.252.241.105.1092768121.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:42:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Wildfire fixtures
From: usctd [at] columbia.sc

Anybody out there willing to rent four wildfire instruments for a
reasonable (uh, read cheap) amount?  Right now we are looking at $900 per
to RENT.  They cost almost as much to purchase.  Looking for the 250W
versions.

Please contact off list.
-- 
Eric Rouse
TD-University of SC, Columbia
Freelance Foyboy



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Message-ID: <2088.129.252.241.105.1092768124.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:42:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Wildfire fixtures
From: usctd [at] columbia.sc

Anybody out there willing to rent four wildfire instruments for a
reasonable (uh, read cheap) amount?  Right now we are looking at $900 per
to RENT.  They cost almost as much to purchase.  Looking for the 250W
versions.

Please contact off list.
-- 
Eric Rouse
TD-University of SC, Columbia
Freelance Foyboy



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Subject: Mackie or not
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:00:17 -0500
Message-ID: <C7CBBE1A9C26A04F9B00DE155F893D66C9BA69 [at] umr-mail9.umr.edu>
From: "Dotson, Shelley M." <dotsons [at] umr.edu>


I am in the process of getting a new sound board for Leach Theatre at
the University of Missouri.  We currently have a Mackie 24*8 and I was
looking at replacing it with a similar model, since I have always had
good luck with Mackie products in the past (the board I have right now
is about 10 years old and just needs to be sent out to pasture) - but I
have heard many others condemn Mackie.  Can anyone share some of their
positive/negative experiences with Mackie products with me and perhaps
suggest a different - simple and user friendly board that may be better.
Since I work mostly with non-theatre major student (UMR does not offer a
theatre major) the simpler the board, the easier my life is going to be
when training students.  Thanks in advance for your help.

Shelley Dotson
Production Manager/Technical Director
Leach Theatre,  University of Missouri - Rolla
118a Castleman Hall=20
Rolla, MO  65409
573-341-6365
=20


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Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE39011EDC5FD [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
From: "Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
Subject: RE: Mackie or not
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:20:06 -0500

 Hi Shelley,

I we have a Mackie 24*8 at Northwest Missouri State University and I love
it.  Is it the most technologically advanced board in the world?  No.  But,
in my opinion, it is an excellent basic sound board.  It has not given us
any problems and we have been using it pretty hard for the past 6 years.  We
only use its most basic function, so any more of a board would be
Superfluous.  In addition to our departmental shows, our theatre also hosts
many touring productions as well as concerts (rock, country, ie).  When I
purchased the board I new that, because everyone has such wide tastes
regarding sound boards, we would probably need to rent for outside groups or
they would bring their own!  So it boils down to how you use your space!

HTH,

Patrick Immel
Lighting and Scenic designer
Northwest Missouri State University

-----Original Message-----
From: Dotson, Shelley M.
To: Stagecraft
Sent: 8/17/2004 3:00 PM
Subject: Mackie or not

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I am in the process of getting a new sound board for Leach Theatre at
the University of Missouri.  We currently have a Mackie 24*8 and I was
looking at replacing it with a similar model, since I have always had
good luck with Mackie products in the past (the board I have right now
is about 10 years old and just needs to be sent out to pasture) - but I
have heard many others condemn Mackie.  Can anyone share some of their
positive/negative experiences with Mackie products with me and perhaps
suggest a different - simple and user friendly board that may be better.
Since I work mostly with non-theatre major student (UMR does not offer a
theatre major) the simpler the board, the easier my life is going to be
when training students.  Thanks in advance for your help.

Shelley Dotson
Production Manager/Technical Director
Leach Theatre,  University of Missouri - Rolla
118a Castleman Hall 
Rolla, MO  65409
573-341-6365
 

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:15:05 -0700
From: Chris Warner <bearz2 [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Mackie or not
In-Reply-To: <list-4159014 [at] prxy.net>

At 03:00 PM 8/17/04 -0500, you wrote:
>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>
>I am in the process of getting a new sound board for Leach Theatre at
>the University of Missouri.  We currently have a Mackie 24*8 and I was
>looking at replacing it with a similar model, since I have always had
>good luck with Mackie products in the past (the board I have right now
>is about 10 years old and just needs to be sent out to pasture) - but I
>have heard many others condemn Mackie.  Can anyone share some of their
>positive/negative experiences with Mackie products with me and perhaps
>suggest a different - simple and user friendly board that may be better.
>Since I work mostly with non-theatre major student (UMR does not offer a
>theatre major) the simpler the board, the easier my life is going to be
>when training students.  Thanks in advance for your help.

If I were to make a suggestion it would be to go with a Yamaha Digital 
console, if you can come up with the approximately 2200 to purchase one, 
not knowing all the ins and outs of your applications, It might be too 
much/Too little for you needs.  Not having touched the 01 series since the 
original promix (and I have to say, that board was a dream to operate for 
me), it might not fit your needs, yet, if you take a look you might find 
that the scene system, and the general operation can be pretty easy taught.

My .02
Chris Warner 


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Message-ID: <024801c484af$41cdb500$0500000a [at] anneb>
From: "Andrew Vance" <remy [at] io.com>
References: <list-4157711 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Sound Position Announcement
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:09:31 -0500

Somewhere in Arizona, Mr. Babbie wrote:
> Assistant Electrician?  This is really a joke, right?

Its not.  I knew somebody would throw their two cents in about this =
because we re-hash it every time a similar position is advertised.

Some theatres [and colleges and whatever] are not blessed enough to have =
all the funds available to structure themselves in the ideal way.  Is =
having our sound person help me out when needed ideal?  No its not, and =
I'll be the first to admit it.  Is it better than the current situation? =
 Yes.  Do my crew or I help out sound when needed?  Yes.  I'd rather =
have our sound person just doing sound and I'd have enough people in my =
department so they wouldn't have to help out.  I know its not the ideal =
situation to have your focus split between two fields and to shift =
between them, but the reality of things now [and I'm sure this applies =
to other places as well] is that there is crossover between departments. =
 Doesn't always make all of us happy, but sometimes its what needs to be =
done.  I don't think I've worked at one theatre where one department =
hasn't helped out another when needed.

> Just curious, what are the lighting designer and the set designer =
doing when this happens?

Not that I feel I have to justify it, but our lighting designer [me for =
the most part] is right there hanging lights every show; our production =
manager, technical director, and scenic artist all design shows for us =
because they choose to.  Does that make me [or any of them] any less =
credible as a designer?  I don't think so; its the nature of the company =
I work for.  If I felt it made me less credible, I don't think I would =
have accepted my position years ago.  Anyone reading the ad who doesn't =
want to help out another department won't apply.  As someone said, we =
like team players here. =20

FYI, I have the utmost respect for sound folk.  No matter how many times =
they explain how they're routing the signal from A to B, processors, =
compressors, and matrixes I still can't manage to retain, let alone =
understand, any of it.  I think I have the same blank look on my face as =
Omaha third graders do when you try and explain lighting to them.

And no offense meant, Chris.  I agree its not ideal, but its what we've =
got to work with so we make the best of it.  I'll still ship you some =
Leinies next time my aunt and uncle make the trip down there.  [Assuming =
you want some, that is.]

--

Sincerely,

Andrew Vance
Lighting Designer/Supervisor
Omaha Theatre Company/Omaha Theatre Ballet


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Message-ID: <02ad01c484c2$5c5cbd40$0000fea9 [at] Tony>
From: "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
References: <list-3989472 [at] prxy.net> <list-3991662 [at] prxy.net> <list-3995587 [at] prxy.net> <list-4073888 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Anti Cellular wallpaper
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:26:17 +0100

Only problem is that you'd then have to get an aerial and a cell repeater
installed for your own phone to work during downtime!

Ynot

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark O'Brien" <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Cc: "Mark O'Brien" <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 7:58 PM
Subject: Anti Cellular wallpaper


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I saw something this morning (tomorrow morning)  In the Sydney Morning
> Herald, tech section  http://www.smh.com.au/
> that described wallpaper that passively would block cellular, and Wi-Fi
> signals.
>
> How 'bout we paper the town?
>
> Mark O'Brien
> Opera Technical Director
> University of Arizona, School of Music
> Tucson, AZ
> 520/621-7025
> 520/591-1803 Mobile
>
>



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Message-ID: <037701c484c4$25ca7c20$0000fea9 [at] Tony>
From: "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
References: <list-4109262 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Lion King
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:39:05 +0100

I could have sat and watched the opening number all night - fantastic start
to a show, even if I did sit and figure out how it worked (and how I could
plagiarise the type of some of the effects used!!)

Ynot


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mat goebel" <matg [at] comcast.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Cc: "theatre sound" <THEATRE-SOUND [at] LISTSERV.AOL.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:03 AM
Subject: Lion King


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Who's seen the lion king? I'm going on my birthday (20 August), and want
> to know if there's any specific absolutely amazing thing to look out
> for? So far I've hear mentions of the sunrise and stampede scenes. Being
> a sound guy, I'm especially excited to experience Tony Meola's sound
> design. Is anyone on the list working the show?
>
> -- 
> Mat G.
> Entertainment Technical Services
> Paramount's Great America
> "Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln."
>



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Message-ID: <03d801c484c6$25a52ef0$0000fea9 [at] Tony>
From: "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
References: <list-4136906 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: evacuation
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:53:24 +0100

Holidaying in the Mouse's home as I was last week with my family, we found
ourselves smack bang in the path of ol' Charley! Watched the impending havoc
approaching on the TV, kept a close eye on things as it moved around us.
It was quite surreal at times - in the early stages quite a few curious
bodies (self included, I have to admit) braved the growing winds on the
balconies of the hotel (only 2 storeys high) to watch the effects, but as
the eye approached, we all sensibly retreated to the safety of the solidly
built rooms!

The Disney area itself seemed to get away extremely lightly - the organised
precautions seemingly rather effective. Yes, many trees were uprooted or
snapped, a fair number of signs alongside the roads were conspicuous by
their absence, but very little structural damage was obvious.

Downtown Disney was the most evident spot that showed scars - a couple of
smashed window panes on the AMC theater, whilst the Cirque du Soleil
suffered the loss of most of it's distinctive white sails around the
building - I counted only 2 remaining.

It was an experience I'm in some ways glad I had, (based on the fact I was
in a solid and safe environment) though one I'm not sure I'd care to
repeat - certainly not in a lesser environment - the Fort Wilderness camp/RV
site was evacuated to our hotel, so the car park was crammed with huge RV's
parked sideways!

Ynot

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <IAEG [at] aol.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 4:15 PM
Subject: evacuation


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> thanks for everyone's good wishes, ,
>
> as I am sure you know CHARLEY took a right hand turn and has devestated
Punta
> Gorda and Arcadia in particular.
>
> my heart and best wishes go out to those folks, from what I have seen on
> television it looks pretty bad,  a classic case of "there but for the
grace of god
> go I"
>
> thanks again, , ,
>
> my question is now, , do I leave the tape and boards on my windows ?
there
> looks like another storm coming on the same path ! !
>
> very best,
>
> Keith Arsenault
> President
> IAEG -  International Arts & Entertainment Group
> Tampa, Florida
>
> 813 831 3465 Mr. Arsenault's Office
> 813 205 0893 Mr. Arsenault's Cellular
>
> www.iaeginc.com



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Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE39011EDC5FE [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
From: "Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
Subject: Model Lighting / Mini Light Lab
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:06:26 -0500

I am putting together a grant for funds to purchase or build a mini light
lab.  I want something big enough to light a 1/2" scale model.  The last
couple of years at the USITT conference, there has been a table with a setup
which used fiber optics.  Does anybody have any more information on this
fiber setup?  Has anybody created a home built unit?

Thanks in advance,

Patrick Immel
Northwest Missouri State University

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Message-ID: <4122BD17.9010105 [at] fuse.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 22:21:11 -0400
From: Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
Subject: Re: CAD vs. Hand
References: <list-4147575 [at] prxy.net> <list-4148671 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-4148671 [at] prxy.net>

Paul Guncheon wrote:

 > I agree that some things must be dimensioned.  What I
 > disagree with is that EVERYTHING must be dimensioned and 
that NO ONE should
 > EVER have put a SCALE RULE to a DRAWING.


OK, you win, you caught me with the everything game.

Here's a better way to phrase it.

When drafting in normal theatrical scales, like 1/2"=1'-0" 
it is impossible to scale more accurately than 1/2", quarter 
inches can be guessed at, anything more precise is pure 
fantasy.  Even at 3"=1'-0" you can only get to 1/8" 
accuracy.  Almost every carpenter should be able to work 
more precisely than these limits.  In most scales the 
thickness of the lines you are measuring between (in scale) 
is larger than the accuracy the carpenter is capable of 
achieving.  If the draftsperson desires greater accuracy 
than this, the dimension must be provided in some way, or 
the drawing needs to be in huge scales.

Stuart





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Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20040817223708.04cdbec0 [at] mail.hstech.org>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 22:37:27 -0400
From: "Scott C. Parker" <stagecraftlist [at] hstech.org>
Subject: Re: Model Lighting / Mini Light Lab
In-Reply-To: <list-4161193 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-4161193 [at] prxy.net>

http://www.seelightbox.com

hth. Scott



         Scott C. Parker
         Production Designer/Technical Director
         High School Tech Production Web Site
         hstech~AT~hstech.org

High Schoolers: come visit the HS Tech Web Site... http://www.hstech.org

Our Mission: To assist High School Technical Theater students in their 
desire to learn about, create, and execute theatrical productions.  


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Message-ID: <4122C7B4.2060908 [at] comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 20:06:28 -0700
From: mat goebel <matg [at] comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Mackie or not
References: <list-4159014 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-4159014 [at] prxy.net>

I will give you my professional experience with several different brands 
in a theme parks settings.

Mackie stuff has given me a lot of headaches. I have a 1604 that has 
been sent in multiple times for repair, but the stereo bus is still not 
100%. Its only 4 years old. I have three SR2404s that each have their 
own sets of problems. The one most recently taken out of service was 
averaging the loss of a channel every week. Luckily the show only used 
about 8 channels. Dirty, crackly, low quality garbage sound all around. 
Granted, these boards have been through a lotof use and even more ABuse.

The current favourite is the allen and heath mixwiz. Nearly identical in 
configuration, only it has two semi-parametric EQs, and boy are they 
worth it. Much better electronics two, stuff just plain sounds better 
coming through it. Tough to get used to the fischer-price colour scheme, 
though.

We just got a Yamaha 02R96 this season. Very very nice board. 
Superlative sound quality and functionality - but the biggest pain in 
the  [at] $$ ever to try and get anything done on. Would definately not 
reccomend it for live mixing. It's very complicated and takes a lot of 
getting used to. Things are not always just a grab away, you might find 
yourself in the wrong scene/layer/patch/etc. The upshot, though, it can 
do almost anything without the need for outboard gear.

Since you've asked for a "basic" console, I would reccomend one of the 
smaller consoles from allen and heath. If you want to kick it up a notch 
in quality, perhaps consider soundcraft - but its a big price jump.

-- 
Mat G.
Entertainment Technical Services
Paramount's Great America
"Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln."


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Message-ID: <4122D549.1050005 [at] comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:04:25 -0700
From: mat goebel <matg [at] comcast.net>
Cc: THEATRE-SOUND [at] LISTSERV.AOL.COM (theatre sound)
Subject: Membership in IATSE local 107

Does anyone have any contact information for local 107? I've been trying 
to talk to someone about membership or overhire or something, but no one 
has returned any phone calls or emails from the information available on 
their website.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Mat G.
Entertainment Technical Services
Paramount's Great America
"Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln."


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Message-ID: <003f01c484ee$b731e5c0$0200a8c0 [at] om.cox.net>
From: "John Gibilisco" <johngib [at] cox.net>
References: <list-4157711 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Sound Position Announcement
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:43:47 -0500

CB wrote:

> >Sound Designer/Engineer/Assistant Electrician
> Assistant Electrician?  This is really a joke, right?

No. No joke here in Omaha. We call it "working" doing something we want to
do. I have no problem with The Omaha Children Theater's job post.

I agree that it is difficult to concentrate and do a good job with audio
while hanging lights. I know, I've done it for 17 years for the Omaha
Playhouse. I really don't think of my position as joke.

> Any "Sound Designer" that would take this gig under these circumstances is
> either the nicest guy you ever want to meet, (yeah, right) or he has no
> other options.

Glad to hear there are plenty of options in Arizona. I don't imagine you
will be applying for this job!

The OCT is really a great company. And they get to work in an incredible
space. I am sure whomever takes the position will be grateful and probably
one of the nicest gal or guy you would ever want to meet.

>  I wouldn't bet the house on his credentials or his product.

Your right. The product will not be as good while time is shared. But lets
get real. This is the best the company can do. It is not a matter of a
producer trying to save money. It will be a great job for the right person.

Count your blessings Chris.

Best,

John Gibilisco



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CB" <psyd [at] cox.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:15 AM
Subject: Sound Position Announcement


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> >Sound Designer/Engineer/Assistant Electrician
>
> Assistant Electrician?  This is really a joke, right?  You have your sound
> designer working for your ME when they hang and focus?  Just curious, what
> are the lighting designer and the set designer doing when this happens?
> Does the director help in the hang too, or are they busy sweeping the
lobby.
> Look, I'm all for everyone helping everyone. but putting the
> designer/engineer in another dept's. labor pool is really giving him a
hard
> time establishing any real credibility.  I am not a rank and file type of
> guy, but this is really a bit silly.  I guess it simply reflects the
> present paradygm's view of sound, and you're either part of the solution
or
> you're part of the problem.
> Any "Sound Designer" that would take this gig under these circumstances is
> either the nicest guy you ever want to meet, (yeah, right) or he has no
> other options.  I wouldn't bet the house on his credentials or his
product.
> Chris "Chris" Babbie
> Location Sound
> MON AZ
>
> Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
> negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...
>


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