Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2) with PIPE id 4239164; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:00:24 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #112 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:00:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-pre4 (2004-08-04) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, EARN_PER_WEEK,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=ham version=3.0.0-pre4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4a3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #112 1. Re: Tools for da road by "Paul Schreiner" 2. Re: Tools for da road by MPTecDir [at] aol.com 3. Clear Com question... by Shawn Palmer 4. Re: Clear Com question... by Shawn Palmer 5. Tirfor information by "Booth, Dennis" 6. Re: new labor rules by "Karl G. Ruling" 7. Re: Tirfor information by "Joe Golden" 8. Disney by usctd [at] columbia.sc 9. Re: Disney by "Delbert Hall" 10. Re: Disney by "Tony" 11. Re: new labor rules by "Delbert Hall" 12. Re: Lion King SF -- wow (maybe spoilers) by mat goebel 13. Re: Clear Com question... by mat goebel 14. Re: new labor rules by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 15. Re: Tools for da road by CB 16. Re: Tools for da road by Stuart Wheaton 17. hamster powered night light by Jeff Forbes 18. Ode to Duck Tape by "Stuart Baulch" 19. Re: Blocking by June Abernathy 20. Tools for da road by Shell Dalzell 21. Re: Blocking by Pat Kight *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Tools for da road Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:09:49 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A74AC4B [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > In the world spoilt by the presence of golgafrinchams upset the=20 > calculations of the global calculator called "the Earth" =20 > (what a dull name)=20 > it's 9x6. >=20 > Steve, > Quite ashamed that I knew the name of the race without looking it up. Why ashamed? I don't find it particularly shameful that I know who = Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings was. Though I do find it a little annoying at times that I can't seem to walk = out of a decent rest room when I'm traveling without looking for = somewhere to get my receipt... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:38:08 -0400 From: MPTecDir [at] aol.com Subject: Re: Tools for da road Message-ID: <55F6144E.79B42320.00740ECC [at] aol.com> MissWisc [at] aol.com writes: << Simple thing... a bandana. Can be used to keep your hair off your face ...... >> Kristi, The only hair I have left is already on my face! <<..... as a makeshift belt, .... >> Maybe if I put 2 or 3 together. -- Michael Michael Powers, Technical Director U Mass Amherst, Dept of Theatre 112 Fine Arts Center West 151 Presidents Drive Ofc 2 Amherst, MA 01003-9331 Phone: 413-545-6821 Fax: 413-577-0025 http://www.umass.edu/theater/ mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu mptecdir [at] aol.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412B48DE.8040207 [at] northnet.net> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:55:42 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Clear Com question... References: In-Reply-To: I have a Clear Com question. CC's website has portions that are down, including the manuals I need. They've not been very helpful on top of the website issues. I want to make some external call lights. Several permanently mounted, and two "portable." I don't want to pay for new, assembled products if I can help it. One source I found online states the DC voltage from the com is present ONLY when the call light button is pressed, and is 28VDC to 30VDC. Another source claims the DC voltage is always present at less than 2.5VDC and when the call light is pressed, is "spiked" to about 15VDC. Both sources claim to be Clear Com info. To save time (which is in short supply now) has anyone done this? If so, could you give me a few hints? Thanks, Shawn Palmer Neenah, WI USA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412B4A6D.2040403 [at] northnet.net> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:02:21 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Clear Com question... References:

In-Reply-To: Ooops. Here's another com question. I jumped the gun. One of my student assistants is trying to make a phone handset into a Clear Com handset. He's followed the instructions found on the website. Regardless of the various things he's tried, the speaker works but the mic doesn't, even without his desired "push to talk" feature. If anyone has done this, tips would be greatly appreciated. Shawn ------------------------------ Subject: Tirfor information Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:29:22 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Booth, Dennis" Anybody out there using Tirfor hoists or tensioners, can you refer me to USA suppliers or distributors? Any of you rental house folks carry Tirfors in your rental inventory? Can you email me some information and specs? Thanks, DGB Dennis Gill Booth, Technical Director North Carolina School of the Arts=20 School of Design and Production=20 1553 South Main Street=20 PO Box 12189=20 Winston-Salem, NC 27117-2189=20 * Voice: (336)770-3232 x127=20 * FAX: (336)770-3213=20 * Email: boothd [at] ncarts.edu=20 * D&P URL: http://www.ncarts.edu/ncsaprod/designandproduction/=20 * Faculty URL: http://faculty.ncarts.edu/dandp/booth/ ------------------------------ From: "Karl G. Ruling" Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:31:19 -0400 Subject: Re: new labor rules Message-ID: <412B18F7.18202.138F8C5F [at] localhost> In-reply-to: > > Actually, those summer stock theatres are don't have to pay overtime > if they derive more than sizable percentage of their annual gross in > less than six months, believe that it is 75% in 50% of the time. Was > originally set up for seasonal workers and employers who have to pick > fruit, but it applies to seasonal theatres. > Have you actually read the new labor law? Don't forget, When new rules come in, the old rules don't apply. I haven't read it, so I won't claim to know what it says, but the news reports about it are as much about people disagreeing about what the law means as the reports are about the new law. Information about the new overtime law is available at http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/fairpay/main.htm. Exemptions from the new overtime regulations are discussed at http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/fairpay/fs17g_salary.htm. Specific exemptions for professional employees are discussed at http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/fairpay/fs17d_professional. htm. This page has an interesting section on the "Creative Professional Exemption." To qualify for that exemption from the overtime rules, all of the following tests must be met: * The employee must be compensated on a salary or fee basis (as defined in the regulations) at a rate not less than $455 per week; * The employee=92s primary duty must be the performance of work requiring invention, imagination, originality or talent in a recognized field of artistic or creative endeavor. There's lots more to this law, of course. I recommend that if people are interested, they do a bit of web browsing and reading. When new rules come in, the old rules don't apply. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Tirfor information Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:47:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Joe Golden" We have them in rentals, I will try to find specs. Do you want to rent or buy? Joe Golden Entertainment Lighting Services > Any of you rental house folks carry Tirfors in your rental=20 > inventory? Can you email me some information and specs? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > DGB >=20 > Dennis Gill Booth, Technical Director >=20 > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4880.129.252.241.105.1093367220.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Disney From: usctd [at] columbia.sc OK, sorry this is sooo off topic, but I know this group will have the answer. So I am taking my kids to Disney World in October and want to know which park you think it is best to take them to. We are only going for one day, maybe two if I can swing it. They are 3 and 5 years old. I have worked at Disney a couple times, but have never been there as a civilian, so I have no idea. Thanks, -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: RE: Disney Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:30:48 -0400 Organization: ETSU Message-ID: <000001c489f7$b7c624c0$6400a8c0 [at] delbert> In-reply-to: Magic Kingdom is the best Disney park for kids of that age. -Delbert -----Original Message----- OK, sorry this is sooo off topic, but I know this group will have the answer. So I am taking my kids to Disney World in October and want to know which park you think it is best to take them to. We are only going for one day, maybe two if I can swing it. They are 3 and 5 years old. I have worked at Disney a couple times, but have never been there as a civilian, so I have no idea. Thanks, -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ Message-ID: <04fb01c489f7$bb34bea0$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References: Subject: Re: Disney Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:30:55 +0100 3 and 5? Magic Kingdom, of course, is probably best initially, but they'll still oooh and aaah at the Animal Kingdom. However, why limit yourself to what THEY will enjoy? Whatever some may think of the mouse, the Disney experience as a punter (and I've been a punter 5 times now, over almost 20 years) is pretty intense for all ages - but as you've worked there I suspect you know that...! The other safe bet will be the water parks - Blizzard Beach especially if they're brave enough (like my two...) to go for the slides & stuff. Just got back from our latest foray into the house of mouse (hence the hurricane postings last week!) with my daughters who are now almost 11 & 8 but when first they went they were 6 and 3. In essence, even at that age, take 'em wherever, and they'll love it!! Ynot ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 6:07 PM Subject: Disney > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > OK, sorry this is sooo off topic, but I know this group will have the > answer. So I am taking my kids to Disney World in October and want to > know which park you think it is best to take them to. We are only going > for one day, maybe two if I can swing it. They are 3 and 5 years old. I > have worked at Disney a couple times, but have never been there as a > civilian, so I have no idea. > > Thanks, > -- > Eric Rouse > TD-University of SC, Columbia > Freelance Foyboy > > > ------------------------------ From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: RE: new labor rules Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:34:09 -0400 Organization: ETSU Message-ID: <000101c489f8$2ea13cb0$6400a8c0 [at] delbert> In-reply-to: As I understand the new law, if you make less than $455 per week (or $23K per year) you are now eligible for overtime pay. If you make more than this (with a few exceptions), you are not. -Delbert -----Original Message----- > > Actually, those summer stock theatres are don't have to pay overtime > if they derive more than sizable percentage of their annual gross in > less than six months, believe that it is 75% in 50% of the time. Was > originally set up for seasonal workers and employers who have to pick > fruit, but it applies to seasonal theatres. > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412B72CB.9030409 [at] comcast.net> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:54:35 -0700 From: mat goebel Subject: Re: Lion King SF -- wow (maybe spoilers) References: In-Reply-To: That's very generous, thank you. I would love a tour. I will be talking to my date in the near future to see if she would like to see it again (we probably won't get the $175 seats this time), perhaps we could hook up then? BACatlarge [at] aol.com wrote: >I hadn't realized from your earlier posts that you were coming to see the SF Lion King; it's a bit belated, but if you're in the City again between now and when we leave in November, let me know and I can give you the nickel tour. And while I don't remember who mixed last night, I'll tell the sound guys you liked it. > > -- Mat G. Entertainment Technical Services Paramount's Great America "Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412B741F.7090001 [at] comcast.net> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:00:15 -0700 From: mat goebel Subject: Re: Clear Com question... References:

In-Reply-To: http://www.dmx512.com/web/comms/tecpro/tpcall.htm Should answer all about the call light situation. As for the handset thing, I ran into a similar problem when trying to convert another type of headset over to clearcom. I ended up needing to build a power supply for the microphone because it was a condenser mic, rather than the dynamic mic element found in clearcom headsets. Someone may know specifically if common telephone handsets are condenser or dynamic elements? btw, please post the url for the instruction to convert a phone handset over to clearcom, I know I'm interested. Shawn Palmer wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I have a Clear Com question. > > CC's website has portions that are down, including the manuals I need. > They've not been very helpful on top of the website issues. > > I want to make some external call lights. Several permanently > mounted, and two "portable." I don't want to pay for new, assembled > products if I can help it. > > One source I found online states the DC voltage from the com is > present ONLY when the call light button is pressed, and is 28VDC to > 30VDC. Another source claims the DC voltage is always present at less > than 2.5VDC and when the call light is pressed, is "spiked" to about > 15VDC. Both sources claim to be Clear Com info. > > To save time (which is in short supply now) has anyone done this? If > so, could you give me a few hints? > > Thanks, > > Shawn Palmer > Neenah, WI > USA > > -- Mat G. Entertainment Technical Services Paramount's Great America "Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln." ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1d9.299470ae.2e5cd466 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:27:02 EDT Subject: Re: new labor rules In a message dated 8/24/04 12:33:09 PM, halld [at] etsu.edu writes: << As I understand the new law, if you make less than $455 per week (or $23K per year) you are now eligible for overtime pay. If you make more than this (with a few exceptions), you are not. >> I've got to reiterate what Karl has said. The new laws seem to generate more confusion than anything else. I think anyone who has a vested interest in these new laws....and who doesn't?..... should check out the websites that Karl so nicely researched for us. Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040824144350.0184ceb0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:43:50 From: CB Subject: Re: Tools for da road >Exactly! And knowing that there's more to 42 than 7x6. Ehm, that'd be "six times nine", kristi. read 'em again. I laughed more on my last trip re-reading those than anything else I've read lately, and I knew all the pinch lines already! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412BD358.8000205 [at] fuse.net> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:46:32 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: Tools for da road References: In-Reply-To: b Ricie wrote: > > Dear wise listers, > I am going on the road as TD.(not a new thing for me) > however I got to wondering. The question is not what > tools to bring, but what tools has anyone forgot to > bring and really wish they had? Offset screwdrivers A selection of metric sockets and allen keys One of those long skinny magnets for getting back the thing you dropped in the floor tracks. Some time ago, I typed out a list of what goes in my road tool box. This simplifies making sure that everything that's supposed to go on the road makes it in, but I also tape a copy to the toolbox and write in everything I miss while I'm out, before I go again, I make sure to add it. Stuart ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:57:45 -0700 From: Jeff Forbes Subject: hamster powered night light Very little to say here except "yowza!" For anyone who was around for the start of the hamster thread,this site is a must visit. http://www.otherpower.com/hamster.html -- Jeff A Forbes PMB 124 6820 SE Foster Rd Portland, OR 97206 (503) 888-5619 ------------------------------ From: "Stuart Baulch" Subject: Ode to Duck Tape Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:08:52 -0500 Message-ID: And the moment you have been waiting for... the winners to this year's Rock About the Roll Contest� sponsored by Duck� brand duct tape. http://tinylink.com/?tEGX2gKHhJ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040825042211.42687.qmail [at] web14125.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:22:11 -0700 (PDT) From: June Abernathy Subject: Re: Blocking OK, lefties - you're right. It's much more convenient to have the blank page on your "writing hand" side, and with a "traditional" setup, lefties have that built in. In fact, it was while interning with a left handed SM 100 years ago at the Asolo in Sarasota that I noticed this. Tested the theory by punching my script for the next show backwards. Nice. This caught the eye of one of the right handed SMs. Pretty soon, I was making up all the books that way. I never looked back. And it's true that handwriting notes in rehearsal is not only often easier, the sound of anyone typing on a keyboard during rehearsal often pisses off various artistic folks, including actors. Not only the distraction of the noise, but the automatic idea that you aren't paying attention to the rehearsal at hand. I've seen this phenomenon when an assistant has been taking line notes on a computer during rehearsal, as well as with general note taking. This is one of the reasons that I would also be wary of taking blocking on a computer during rehearsal. [As far as line notes - I've gone to manually marking line notes during rehearsal, and transcribing onto computer during rehearsal breaks and after rehearsal. And line notes, btw, are one place where I have used various arcane systems of letters and symbols to try to remind myself what the error was, when transcribing after the fact. Have I mentioned that I hate taking line notes? Some directors really love them. I try to avoid having to take them unless I have an assistant that I can specifically assign to the task of prompting and line notes and nothing else. Some kind of (quiet!) computer system for that might be interesting.] June Abernathy AEA Stage Manager IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL) FOH Electrician Lion King National Tour (Gazelle) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:39:43 -1000 Subject: Tools for da road From: Shell Dalzell Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > One item that goes in my sack when I leave for a new venue (particularly in > this part of the world) is a roll of toilet paper! Perhaps the bandana would take up less room and solve the same problems. Aloha, Shell ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412C3609.5050303 [at] peak.org> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:47:37 -0700 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Blocking References: In-Reply-To: June Abernathy wrote: > [As far as line notes - I've gone to manually marking > line notes during rehearsal, and transcribing onto > computer during rehearsal breaks and after rehearsal. > And line notes, btw, are one place where I have used > various arcane systems of letters and symbols to try > to remind myself what the error was, when transcribing > after the fact. Have I mentioned that I hate taking > line notes? Some directors really love them. I try to > avoid having to take them unless I have an assistant > that I can specifically assign to the task of > prompting and line notes and nothing else. Some kind > of (quiet!) computer system for that might be > interesting.] As a sometimes director (casting "Copenhagen" tomorrow night, 'smatter o' fact) I recognize both the utility of line notes for the actors, and the tedium of having to take the damned things. Over the years I've settled on having an assistant (sometimes the SM, sometimes a production assistant) keep a stack of PostIt notes, one per cast member, on which the page numbers of screwups are noted. At the end of the evening PostIts are simply distributed to the appropriate actors, and it's their responsibility to check the page in question and get it right. This accomplishes a couple of things: * It makes the job of note-taking much easier * It forces the actors to take a second (third, fourth) look at entire pages of lines in context, rather than isolating the errors. * As they keep working, the number of PostIts they receive each night decreases (well, one would hope); there's visible, tangible evidence of progress. * It eliminates the godawful tedium for everyone involved of hanging around after a rehearsal going over the mistakes line by freakin' line. So we can all go drink beer, instead. I also ask my assistants to never, ever tell an actor *how* they screwed up the line. That eliminates "I didn't say that!" "Yes, you did!" arguments, and lets them focus on the right words, not the wrong ones. -- Pat Kight Albany (Ore.) Civic Theater kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #112 *****************************