Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2) with PIPE id 4263382; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 03:02:04 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #115 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 03:01:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-pre4 (2004-08-04) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=ham version=3.0.0-pre4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4a3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #115 1. Re: Costume measurement form by Jason Tollefson 2. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by Herrick 3. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 4. Re: New subject - Fog Maker by Dorian Kelly 5. Re: Resume Help by "Stephen E. Rees" 6. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by Kevin Lee Allen 7. Re: Completely OT: Any Monk Fans with VCRs? by Judy Martel 8. Re: New subject - Fog Maker by "Tony Deeming" 9. Re: New subject - Fog Maker by Stephen Litterst 10. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by 11. Re: new labor rules by "Karl G. Ruling" 12. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by Stephen Litterst 13. Re: Costume measurement form by "Elliott Family" 14. Re: Costume measurement form by Pat Kight 15. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by 16. Re: a job posting by usctd [at] columbia.sc 17. cad vs hand by usctd [at] columbia.sc 18. Light a fire from afar by "Frank E. Merrill" 19. test, please disregard by "Johnson, Keith" 20. Re: a job posting by Boyd Ostroff 21. Re: Light a fire from afar by Steve Larson 22. Hedda Gabler Dueling Pistols by "Johnson, Keith" 23. Re: Light a fire from afar by "Joe Golden" 24. Re: Light a fire from afar by "Tony Deeming" 25. Re: Light a fire from afar by Dave Bowman 26. Re: a job posting by "Jon Ares" 27. Re: a job posting by Boyd Ostroff 28. Arena Lighting by Dave Bowman 29. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by Samuel Jones 30. Light a fire from afar by "Frank E. Merrill" 31. Re: Arena Lighting by "C. Andrew Dunning" 32. PAC billing?? by Michael Heinicke 33. Re: Arena Lighting by "Joe Golden" 34. Re: Light a fire from afar by mat goebel 35. Re: Light a fire from afar by John McKernon 36. Little Shop Mug/BIG THANK YOU by doran [at] bard.edu 37. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by Stephen Litterst 38. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by "Paul Schreiner" 39. Re: New Labor Rules by CB 40. Re: Tools for da road by CB 41. Re: Production Fundamentals by CB 42. Re: Tools for da road by "Tony Deeming" 43. Completely OT: Any Monk Fans with VCRs? by CB 44. Re: Little Shop Mug/BIG THANK YOU by "Stephen E. Rees" 45. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by "Stephen E. Rees" 46. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by 47. Re: Hedda Gabler Dueling Pistols by "Chad Croteau" 48. Re[2]: Light a fire from afar by "Frank E. Merrill" 49. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by Herrick 50. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by Herrick 51. Re: Light a fire from afar by Herrick 52. Re: Arena Lighting by Herrick 53. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by Herrick 54. Re[2]: Light a fire from afar by "Frank E. Merrill" 55. Re: Light a fire from afar by "Alf Sauve" 56. Re: Re[2]: Light a fire from afar by Herrick 57. Re[2]: Light a fire from afar by "Frank E. Merrill" 58. Re: a job posting by Charlie Richmond 59. Re: Show Jumping Arena Lighting by IAEG [at] aol.com 60. Re: Re[2]: Light a fire from afar by "don taco" 61. Completely OT: Any Monk Fans with VCRs? by Tony Miller 62. Re[2]: Light a fire from afar by Mike Brubaker 63. Re: a job posting by Jeff Kanyuck 64. Re: a job posting by 65. Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) by *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <20040827103101.56589.qmail [at] web50308.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 03:31:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Tollefson Subject: Re: Costume measurement form In-Reply-To: You can find a pretty good one on my wife's website at http://www.tollefsondesigns.com/costumes/handbook.html It was developed as part of a larger shopping handbook so there are many forms in it you may find useful. All are downloadable as pdfs but let me know if you have problems. Jason Tollefson Orlando, FL > Does anyone out there have a nice, clean, detailed form/chart for > measuring actors for their costumes? If you do, and if you'd be willing > to share, I'd love to get my hands on a copy I can adapt for our use. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:13:29 -0400 Subject: Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1FCBCD50-F81A-11D8-8CB7-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com> And suddenly all useful work in NYC ceased. the signs on 8th avenue "no parking for a week" scare me it's like foreshadowing. Sunil, I'll be in Central Park with flowers in my hair (and a Tazer so I can resist arrest) , anyone want to come join me? I've got a frisbee. -H On Friday, Aug 27, 2004, at 02:43 America/New_York, Sunil Rajan wrote: >> > we were just informed that due to terror alerts/threats, we will not > be allowed to load out the Delacorte Theatre this weekend! There goes > 2 days! It's gonna be a madhouse around here! > > Cheers, > Sunil Rajan > Freelance Audio Mercenary > going to Long Island for a pool party on Saturday... maybe Sunday > > > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1e2.293b3959.2e607267 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:17:59 EDT Subject: Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) In a message dated 8/27/04 7:13:11 AM, herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com writes: << the signs on 8th avenue "no parking for a week" scare me it's like foreshadowing. Sunil, I'll be in Central Park with flowers in my hair (and a Tazer so I can resist arrest) , anyone want to come join me? I've got a frisbee. >> I've got a seminar to do for Local 1 on Monday. Can't decide whether to do the session on rigging or on how to avoid getting stepped on by the police horse while marching down Broadway. Should be fun. Bill (this is me rummaging around in the attic looking for the old riot helmet, gas mask and bong. Haven't needed this stuff since the 70's) Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:30:59 +0100 From: Dorian Kelly Subject: Re: New subject - Fog Maker >We built a trial model and it did not work (please don't laugh - still >learning). No laughing, but the secret is all in the size of the bits, the way you immerse them and the pressure in the tank. Ideally there should be a tight fitting lid to the drum, allowing steam- and fog- to escape through the outlet nozzle only. Make sure the water is half full in the tank, and at a rolling boil, the hotter the better. Smash the DI up with a hammer into inch bits, no powder if possible, ( safety rules apply, use gloves and goggles) put them in a wire mesh bucket like a deep frier pan which you arrange to be suspended just above the water level, and lower it into the water on demand, keeping it agitated. The outlet should be just above the water level. You will get as much as you need. Dorian iIluminati (fog guru to the gentry) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412F2C4F.1080102 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:42:55 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Subject: Re: Resume Help References: Mat, As Boyd says, you have made a good start. Nice straight forward presentation that is easy to read and not cluttered with gimmicky crap. I agree about the "Summary of Qualifications" section. You might wish to include any other software you are familiar with like the Lightwright, CADD, and the like. Some other things: You have the room on the page to increase the point size of your name and I suggest you do. Keep contact info the same size. Otherwise the header is pretty good. You might include a one sentence "Objective" line immediately after the header. Be succinct so a production manager knows what you are seeking. Are you in college now? If so indicate as Boyd suggested. "Graduated Front of Class"???? Were you Valedictorian? If so, that is a better word choice. Could indicate rank (1 of 345) but it's not necessary. There is room at the bottom for listing references. Seek permission to use them and you can probably fit three across the bottom. Include name and position of referee. Fone and email contacts are more useful than actual addresses for quick contact. Many interviews are initiated with fone contact and then written contact later (if at all) The next thing you need to think about is a cover letter for use when making applications for work. It too should be one page and be especially prepared for each application. Gotta love cut and paste of stock boilerplate for creating those "personalized" letters. Definitely keep the one page format. HTH, Regards, Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia Fredonia, NY mat goebel wrote: > I've recently rewritten my resume [snipped] ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <071C7949-F82A-11D8-BA21-003065D2C502 [at] klad.com> From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:07:19 -0400 bummer. On Aug 27, 2004, at 7:17 AM, Bsapsis [at] aol.com wrote: > (this is me rummaging around in the attic looking for the old ...=20 > bong. Haven't needed this stuff since the 70's) ----- Kevin Lee Allen Production Designer http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.cell klad [at] klad.com =F0 ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:19:13 -0500 From: Judy Martel Subject: Re: Completely OT: Any Monk Fans with VCRs? >Okay, this is completely OT, in the most horrible way, please >forgive me. I figure if any group I know will have somebody who can >help me, this group will. I've recently become hooked on the USA >show "Monk", but >whilst at a convention in Vegas last week, I forgot to put a tape in >the VCR despite taking the time to program it to tape the season >finale. So, would any of you out in Stagecraft land happen to have >taped the episode >and be willing to make me a copy? If you don't find a copy of the show, it will be broadcast again on Sept. 6. Schedule is at: http://www.usanetwork.com/schedules/sched.php/sched.php Search for Monk. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00ad01c48c38$bd72c890$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References:

Subject: Re: New subject - Fog Maker Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:21:19 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorian Kelly" > Make sure the water is half full in the tank, and > at a rolling boil, the hotter the better. Hmmm.. Here I've got to say my experience dictates otherwise. Boiling the water serves only to heat up the resulting fog, making it react more like steam, and thus rising a little more than I'd expect from the effect. I've found that a constant sub-boiling temperature is best - not the easiest thing to do, but I'd say a thermostatically control element would work best. One thing that might sway your argument is if you load the basket with large amounts of the CO2, which may in fact counteract the higher temp. However, doing that can render the fog tank a little uncontrollable in output and also use up more supplies than necessary. Ynot ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:54:26 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: New subject - Fog Maker Message-id: <412F3D12.91F3E222 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References:

Tony Deeming wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > One thing that might sway your argument is if you load the basket with large > amounts of the CO2, which may in fact counteract the higher temp. However, > doing that can render the fog tank a little uncontrollable in output and > also use up more supplies than necessary. I've had similar experience to Tony. Fog from boiling water doesn't linger as long or as low. If you can put an adjustable thermostat on the machine you can tweak the temperature for the effect you want. Hotter water gives thicker fog -- great for hiding ballerinas. Lower temps thin out the fog, good for a creepy graveyard. If you have the time and budget to make a machine that sprays the water over the ice, I've found that they use ice more efficiently. Complete immersion creates a great initial effect but doesn't always have the legs that a spray machine will. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ From: Subject: RE: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:56:32 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hmmmm. I feel a stagecraft gathering in NY coming on. My gig for next week has fallen through (for reasons having nothing to do with the RNC). And I would certainly like to grab another glass of Green Spot at DBA. Any Takers? Klyph >And suddenly all useful work in NYC ceased. >the signs on 8th avenue "no parking for a week" scare me it's like foreshadowing. >Sunil, I'll be in Central Park with flowers in my hair (and a Tazer so >I can resist arrest) , anyone want to come join me? I've got a frisbee. >-H ------------------------------ From: "Karl G. Ruling" Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:17:27 -0400 Subject: Re: new labor rules Message-ID: <412F0A37.24787.51F9244 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: > > Thanks for the posted links. > > Unfortunately, it seems that the new rules don't throw out the > old ones only modify them. Interesting argument: The rules are the same, only different. I wonder, if a rule is changed, is it a new rule, or simply an old rule that has been changed? What is the essential identity of a rule? Is it the clause number? If it is, does it become a new rule if the document is renumbered? If the words are changed but the clause number isn't, is it still the same rule, although it means something different now? While I find this sophistry amusing, it's not very helpful. Better to assume that the whole thing is different and READ IT. Assume nothing is the same. Your observations below are correct. > The new FLSA as modified will > require serious reading, and as always, evaluation of what labor is > being performed by a person, in addition to how much they earn or how > long they work. > > Phrases or words like "significant" are always subject to > interpretation. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:28:54 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) Message-id: <412F4526.EDAA02C1 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: klyphs [at] earthlink.net wrote: > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hmmmm. I feel a stagecraft gathering in NY coming on. My gig for next week > has fallen through (for reasons having nothing to do with the RNC). And I > would certainly like to grab another glass of Green Spot at DBA. Can you get an assembly permit with this short notice? I'm not sure the SS can do a background check on all of us in time. (Heck, I'm not sure some of us would clear the background check ;-)) Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200408271433.i7REXGPB046411 [at] a.mail.peak.org> From: "Elliott Family" Subject: RE: Costume measurement form Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:33:08 -0700 In-Reply-To: Pat, If you can find an old copy of the form we used, I'd be happy to create = a new digital one as best I can, copying the old layout with any = modifications we may feel would be beneficial. Warmest regards, John Elliott "I've always wanted to be normal,=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 but lately I've had a=A0strong suspicion = that=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 this is it." --J. Skinner. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Eliminate annoying spam! My mailbox is protected by iHateSpam, the #1-rated spam buster. http://www.ihatespam.net -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Pat = Kight Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:13 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Costume measurement form For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- One for the costumers: Does anyone out there have a nice, clean, detailed form/chart for=20 measuring actors for their costumes? If you do, and if you'd be willing=20 to share, I'd love to get my hands on a copy I can adapt for our use. Our theater has been using a decades-old, many-times photocopied chart=20 that's served us pretty well, but the last person who dipped into the=20 supply evidently used them all without replacing them, and I'm having a=20 devil of a time finding a copy. I even tried a little googling, but=20 haven't come up with anything suitable. If you've got yours on line, or in a digital format that can be readily=20 converted to .pdf and e-mailed, all the better. Thanks, --=20 Pat Kight Albany (Ore.) Civic Theater kightp [at] peak.org http://albanycivic.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412F4923.9040605 [at] peak.org> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:45:55 -0700 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Costume measurement form References: In-Reply-To: Jason Tollefson wrote: > You can find a pretty good one on my wife's website at > http://www.tollefsondesigns.com/costumes/handbook.html > > It was developed as part of a larger shopping handbook so there are many forms in it you may find > useful. All are downloadable as pdfs but let me know if you have problems. Thanks, Jason - and others who sent/pointed me to costume forms. Interesting to see the variations on this theme, but I think I've got what I need. Once again, the list comes through. (-: -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ From: Subject: RE: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:37:07 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I'm pretty sure most of us would not pass the background check (VBG) Klyph >>I'm not sure >>the SS can do a background check on all of us in time. (Heck, I'm not >>sure some of us would clear the background check ;-))>> ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1224.129.252.241.105.1093621599.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: a job posting From: usctd [at] columbia.sc I think we get a pretty good idea of the bad from your first paragraph. -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Well, everyone, here's a job posting that.. quite frankly was my job and > I'm > moving on, Thank goodness. > After 8 years there they still wouldn't get me health benefits and sure > didn't offer me housing ! > They're telling me that they think they're going to have to pay someone > 30% > more than what I was making on top of these other benefits.. I'm shocked.. > Here I was working 3 other jobs besides trying to make ends meet and get > benies, and they were saying how they didn't like that I seemed so tired > all > the time. Well, there's the listing.. if you want anymore information feel > free to contact me and I"ll give you the good and the bad. > Jeff Kanyuck > Technical Director and everything else (now somewhere else) > 907-248-2992 > > TECHNICAL/MEDIA MANAGER. Committed, friendly professional needed for > progressive 10,000 SF contemporary multiarts organization in Anchorage. > Provide lighting/sound design and support for professional and > community-based multimedia performances in 99-seat black box, visual art > installations, and video creation/exhibition. Final Cut Pro editing (and > teaching) ability preferred; radio engineering a plus. Health, IRA, > vacation, and housing subsidy available. Position open until filled. > Inquiries to: Out North, 3800 DeBarr Rd., Anchorage AK 99508, (907) > 279-8099, work [at] outnorth.org > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1236.129.252.241.105.1093621920.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: cad vs hand From: usctd [at] columbia.sc Just wanted to thank everyone again for all of the input on this issue. I will let you know how the class went at the end of the semester. -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:03:51 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <1865803974.20040827100351 [at] TCON.net> Subject: Light a fire from afar Hello fellow geniuses! I have a scout program coming up the first week of November where a large campfire is involved, and I always try to come up with ingenious and spectacular methods of igniting it by remote control. I've already done most of the ways of igniting it from inside the wood pile using road flares and similar arsonistic devices, but what I'd like to do this time would be for the Finger of God to streak down out of the clear sky overhead and set the thing ablaze in a ball of white hot glory but, so far as I am aware, God has not put me on his agenda for that evening which, I am sure, is a failure on my part and not His. So I was thinking about using primer cord because of the desired speed of ignition but PC isn't real spectacular to watch, so I thought about magnesium ribbon which would be spectacular to watch but not produce the desired speed. Perhaps I could enlist the Hamster Team after they finish their gig in Athens and have about fifty of them run down a length of trick line carrying miniature Olympic torches, but since I would also expect them to leap honorably into the ensuing pyre, I suppose the Hazardous Pay rider on their contract would price that idea out of the Troop's budget. And so I turn to you, fellowcrafters. What say ye? Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Established 1946 Indianapolis 317: 255 4666 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net ------------------------------ Subject: test, please disregard Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:08:43 -0400 Message-ID: <30ECD69B1163C64EA657B3B29D4A938A6E52F9 [at] FACSTAFF.facultystaff.eku.edu> From: "Johnson, Keith" Keith W. Johnson Designer/Technical Director Associate Professor EKU Theatre Program 306 Campbell Building=20 Eastern Kentucky University 521 Lancaster Ave. Richmond, Kentucky 40475 859-622-1321 email: keith.johnson [at] eku.edu -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of usctd [at] columbia.sc Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:52 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: cad vs hand For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Just wanted to thank everyone again for all of the input on this issue. I will let you know how the class went at the end of the semester. --=20 Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:08:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: a job posting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 usctd [at] columbia.sc wrote: > I think we get a pretty good idea of the bad from your first paragraph. It also seems that there is an implicit comment on their feelings about your work and its value ;- > > they think they're going to have to pay someone 30% more than what I > > was making on top of these other benefits.. Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:12:54 -0400 Subject: Re: Light a fire from afar From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Damn, wish I would have had a troop like yours. Steve on 8/27/04 11:03 AM, Frank E. Merrill at Lamplighter [at] TCON.net wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello fellow geniuses! > > I have a scout program coming up the first week of November where a > large campfire is involved, and I always try to come up with ingenious > and spectacular methods of igniting it by remote control. I've already > done most of the ways of igniting it from inside the wood pile using > road flares and similar arsonistic devices, but what I'd like to do > this time would be for the Finger of God to streak down out of the > clear sky overhead and set the thing ablaze in a ball of white hot > glory but, so far as I am aware, God has not put me on his agenda for > that evening which, I am sure, is a failure on my part and not His. > > So I was thinking about using primer cord because of the desired speed > of ignition but PC isn't real spectacular to watch, so I thought about > magnesium ribbon which would be spectacular to watch but not produce > the desired speed. > > Perhaps I could enlist the Hamster Team after they finish their gig in > Athens and have about fifty of them run down a length of trick line > carrying miniature Olympic torches, but since I would also expect them > to leap honorably into the ensuing pyre, I suppose the Hazardous Pay > rider on their contract would price that idea out of the Troop's > budget. > > And so I turn to you, fellowcrafters. What say ye? > > Best regards, > Frank E. Merrill > MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT > Established 1946 > Indianapolis > 317: 255 4666 > > Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 > mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net > > > ------------------------------ Subject: Hedda Gabler Dueling Pistols Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:14:07 -0400 Message-ID: <30ECD69B1163C64EA657B3B29D4A938A6E52FA [at] FACSTAFF.facultystaff.eku.edu> From: "Johnson, Keith" We are preparing for a production of Ibsen's Hedda Gabler and I was wondering if anybody had the dueling pistols needed for this production? If you do not, I would appreciate it if anybody could point me in the right direction to find some, either for rent, borrow, or purchase. For those of you who have done this production, have you used pistols which fire a blank or black powder (shudder) or pistols which do not actually fire and use a blank gun offstage?? Thanks for your help, you may contact the listserv or directly to me via, keith.johnson [at] eku.edu=20 Keith W. Johnson Designer/Technical Director Associate Professor EKU Theatre Program 306 Campbell Building=20 Eastern Kentucky University 521 Lancaster Ave. Richmond, Kentucky 40475 859-622-1321 email: keith.johnson [at] eku.edu ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Light a fire from afar Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:19:17 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Joe Golden" Whatever you do, please post pics/video. Enquiring minds want to know but what I'd like to do this time=20 > would be for the Finger of God to streak down out of the=20 > clear sky overhead and set the thing ablaze in a ball of=20 > white hot glory=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00fa01c48c4a$f212e690$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: Light a fire from afar Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:31:38 +0100 Maybe not as spectacular as you might like, but the Euro-Disney Magic Kingdom fireworks show starts with some sort of flame running up a line to the top of the castle (or is it down from - I can't remember). I don't know whether the Florida version does the same - I suspect it may (Charley robbed me of the chance to see that one!) Any of the Mouse's employees here know what it was? Ynot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank E. Merrill" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 4:03 PM Subject: Light a fire from afar > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello fellow geniuses! > > I have a scout program coming up the first week of November where a > large campfire is involved, and I always try to come up with ingenious > and spectacular methods of igniting it by remote control. I've already > done most of the ways of igniting it from inside the wood pile using > road flares and similar arsonistic devices, but what I'd like to do > this time would be for the Finger of God to streak down out of the > clear sky overhead and set the thing ablaze in a ball of white hot > glory but, so far as I am aware, God has not put me on his agenda for > that evening which, I am sure, is a failure on my part and not His. > > So I was thinking about using primer cord because of the desired speed > of ignition but PC isn't real spectacular to watch, so I thought about > magnesium ribbon which would be spectacular to watch but not produce > the desired speed. > > Perhaps I could enlist the Hamster Team after they finish their gig in > Athens and have about fifty of them run down a length of trick line > carrying miniature Olympic torches, but since I would also expect them > to leap honorably into the ensuing pyre, I suppose the Hazardous Pay > rider on their contract would price that idea out of the Troop's > budget. > > And so I turn to you, fellowcrafters. What say ye? > > Best regards, > Frank E. Merrill > MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT > Established 1946 > Indianapolis > 317: 255 4666 > > Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 > mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412F5AD2.2080400 [at] syr.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:01:22 -0400 From: Dave Bowman Organization: Syracuse Stage/SU Drama Cc: Lamplighter [at] TCON.net Subject: Re: Light a fire from afar References: In-Reply-To: Frank et all, I don't know what the "firework" regulations are in your state but perhaps you're looking at something akin to a bottle rocket on a zip line. If the zip line starts "in the heavens" and ends inside the wood pile with plenty of "boy scout water" poured on the pile, the effect on the zip line could/should ignite the pile. I would check with firework distributors and/or the folks at Theatre Fx in Maryland. I can picture it in my head, but can't put a definitive answer on the device to use. One year at our scout camp, we did something similar, but with a flaming arrow as the ignition. Had an expert archer shoot the arrow in from a point the boys could not see him from. It was VERY cool! HTH, dave B. -- David M. Bowman Syracuse Stage / SU Drama Master Electrician / Adj. Professor dmbowman [at] syr.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000901c48c50$08f717a0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: a job posting Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:08:04 -0700 I think the first line of the position states Jeff's (former) employer's take on Jeff: "Committed, friendly professional needed...." That's most likely in reference to Jeff feeling burned out on both ends. (Committed refering to their desire that this person focus soley on the one job, and have no other jobs, or a life for that matter.) Hope the new job is a better environment for you, Jeff. Glad you've moved on. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:25:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: a job posting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I agree that this sounds like a good place to leave. If I announced I was leaving and then my employer said they were going to offer my successor 30% more, give them some new benefits, and they also complained that my job suffered because I was too tired.... well I would take that as a big slap in the face. It's like saying that they weren't happy with you and want your replacement to be better, so naturally they will pay them more. > I think the first line of the position states Jeff's (former) employer's > take on Jeff: "Committed, friendly professional I think that actions speak louder than words myself... Good riddance to a place like that! Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412F61E8.5030402 [at] syr.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:31:36 -0400 From: Dave Bowman Organization: Syracuse Stage/SU Drama Subject: Arena Lighting Hey Gang, Looking to the wisdom of the list. I've been asked to design a lighting rig for a horse show (read: equestrian competition - jumping, dressage, etc...). The show takes place in a War Memorial arena. I need to cover an area larger than a hockey rink. I've been asked to design, because the merc vapor units in the arena do not dim (on or off with a definite "cycle-time" from strike to full) and they want to do something "interesting" for the competition. So my question to the list is, can anyone recommend a unit/fixture for me to look at? Something that dims is necessary, and something that either takes color or a scroller. My thought is units that would point straight down and wash the floor (shadows are an issue and light into the horses eyes is an absolute no-no). The mercs would be fine (quality/direction wise) for the competition, but they don't dim. The trim height is 40' Since this will be a major rig, I know that I'm looking at a truss set-up rented from one of the big houses (i.e. FourthPhase or similar). At the moment (for the next 6 days), money is no object. Any suggestions? TIA!!!! dave B. -- David M. Bowman Syracuse Stage / SU Drama Master Electrician / Adj. Professor dmbowman [at] syr.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:31:56 -0700 Subject: Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) From: Samuel Jones In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9C4803F6-F846-11D8-8ACE-000393BB489C [at] ucla.edu> This whole thread sound like there has been a successful terrorist=20 attack in Manhattan. It's known as the Republican Convention. Sam Samuel L. Jones Theater Production Supervisor Dept. of World Arts and Cultures, UCLA (310) 825-5823 sjones [at] arts.ucla.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D On Friday, August 27, 2004, at 06:07 AM, Kevin Lee Allen wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- > > bummer. > > On Aug 27, 2004, at 7:17 AM, Bsapsis [at] aol.com wrote: > >> (this is me rummaging around in the attic looking for the old ...=20 >> bong. Haven't needed this stuff since the 70's) > > ----- > Kevin Lee Allen > Production Designer > http://www.klad.com > 973.744.6352.voice > 201.280.3841.cell > klad [at] klad.com > =EF=A3=BF > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:35:34 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <53537789.20040827113534 [at] TCON.net> Subject: Light a fire from afar Hello again! See why I like y'all so much? I sympathize with Steve Larson's wish that his Scouting experience had been more interesting! One of the Dads in our assemblage is an expert in automobile crashes and he is called upon by the attorney with the deepest pockets to testify as to why their client's automobile did whatever to whomever. He was conducting a series of crash tests to determine exactly how a certain model compact car disintegrates when going under a semi-trailer the short way, and invited our guys out to get a sobering reminder to be a more careful driver. (Hint: If you're gonna go under a semi, get your head below the dashboard....) I agree with Joe Golden that pictures of the Finger of God would be newsworthy and we'll be well prepared. Timing being of the proverbial essence, however, I cannot make any promises. I considered Dave Bowman's idea of the flaming arrow already (and the name-activity connection is a delightful pun!) but discarded the idea because of the safety aspects along with declining to use incendiary rounds in a rifle fitted with a starlight scope. I've witnessed a lot of unpleasant things in my many days, but having Mrs. Jones see her favorite 11-year old accidentally burst into flame a few minutes before becoming a Tenderfoot is not one I would relish. But I like Dave's idea of the bottle rocket. I can probably rig up a zip line out of black mason's twine from high in the surrounding trees and then ignite the rockets' fuse with a squib.... Hmmmm... Now I need to find a Dad with a boom lift truck to reach sixty or eighty feet into the trees to set the upper end of the effect. Maybe I'll think about the incendiary rounds some more...hahaha! Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Established 1946 Indianapolis 317: 255 4666 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net ------------------------------ From: "C. Andrew Dunning" Subject: RE: Arena Lighting Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:44:03 -0500 Organization: Landru Design In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Give either 8-Lights or 9-Lights DWE lamps and w. ColoRams a consideration. You'll want to get spec. to see of their intensity is what you're needing, but their wash is fairly even and focus won't take you an eternity. C. Andrew Dunning Landru Design - Nashville, TN - cad [at] landrudesign.com www.landrudesign.com >-----Original Message----- >From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf >Of Dave Bowman >Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:32 AM >To: Stagecraft >Subject: Arena Lighting > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > >--------------------------------------------------- > >Hey Gang, > >Looking to the wisdom of the list. I've been asked to design >a lighting rig for a horse show (read: equestrian competition >- jumping, dressage, etc...). The show takes place in a War >Memorial arena. I need to cover an area larger than a hockey >rink. I've been asked to design, because the merc vapor units >in the arena do not dim (on or off with a definite >"cycle-time" from strike to full) and they want to do >something "interesting" for the competition. So my question >to the list is, can anyone recommend a unit/fixture for me to >look at? Something that dims is necessary, and something that >either takes color or a scroller. My thought is units that >would point straight down and wash the floor (shadows are an >issue and light into the horses eyes is an absolute no-no). >The mercs would be fine (quality/direction wise) for the >competition, but they don't dim. The trim height is 40' Since >this will be a major rig, I know that I'm looking at a truss >set-up rented from one of the big houses (i.e. FourthPhase or >similar). At the moment (for the next 6 days), money is no object. > >Any suggestions? > >TIA!!!! > >dave B. > >-- >David M. Bowman >Syracuse Stage / SU Drama >Master Electrician / Adj. Professor >dmbowman [at] syr.edu > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040827164737.39828.qmail [at] web81707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: PAC billing?? If anyone has any information about billing policies/expenses for performing arts centers that they are willing to share, please contact me offlist. I am looking for information to compare to our prices and policies so we can determine if we are "standard" or not. The higher ups are wanting us to bill one way, and we want to bill another, so we are looking to determine which is more "normal". Thanks, Michael Heinicke mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Arena Lighting Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:57:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Joe Golden" We have Coemar PowerCycs which are two 575w HMI lamps with color mixing and shutters. They also have lenticular lenses to get an even wide wash. Pan and tilt is set manually at the fixture. , >=20 > Looking to the wisdom of the list. I've been asked to design=20 > a lighting=20 > rig for a horse show (read: equestrian competition - jumping,=20 > dressage,=20 > etc...). The show takes place in a War Memorial arena. I=20 > need to cover=20 > an area larger than a hockey rink. I've been asked to=20 > design, because=20 > the merc vapor units in the arena do not dim (on or off with=20 > a definite=20 > "cycle-time" from strike to full) and they want to do something=20 > "interesting" for the competition. So my question to the=20 > list is, can=20 > anyone recommend a unit/fixture for me to look at? Something=20 > that dims=20 > is necessary, and something that either takes color or a=20 > scroller. My=20 > thought is units that would point straight down and wash the floor=20 > (shadows are an issue and light into the horses eyes is an absolute=20 > no-no). The mercs would be fine (quality/direction wise) for the=20 > competition, but they don't dim. The trim height is 40' =20 > Since this will=20 > be a major rig, I know that I'm looking at a truss set-up rented from=20 > one of the big houses (i.e. FourthPhase or similar). At the=20 > moment (for=20 > the next 6 days), money is no object. >=20 > Any suggestions? >=20 > TIA!!!! >=20 > dave B. >=20 > --=20 > David M. Bowman > Syracuse Stage / SU Drama > Master Electrician / Adj. Professor > dmbowman [at] syr.edu >=20 >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412F6B9E.4020509 [at] comcast.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:13:02 -0700 From: mat goebel Subject: Re: Light a fire from afar References:

In-Reply-To: I've achieved a similar effect many a time, and have fashioned the safest way of doing so (unfortunately though trial and error). There are two separate systems involved, a flaming arrow system and a campfire ignition system. The flaming arrow consists of a homebrew model rocket constructed of a paper nose cone and newspaper body. The smallest motor I could find (A, if memory serves), The motor is glued into the body. Attached on the outside of the body of the rocket are two smalled (1") sections of brass tubing. A "launch tube" was fashioned from a section of AC duct and some sheeet metal. A bracket was attached to it and the finished product was fashioned up in a tree. A "receiver tube" of similar construction was dug into the ground behind the campfire. A small size steel cable was run from the receiver tube (where it was permanently attached) to the launch tube (where it was be disconnected). The "arrow" has the steel cable fished through its brass fittings and run back into the launch tube. Now, since the zipline probably slopes down, how do you keep the rocket inside the launch tube until go? I'll tell you. The launch tube has a bent coat hanger in it. The rocket, once fashioned to the zipline, is attached to the coat hanger using a strip of paper and scotch tape. The coat hanger also acts as a strain relief for the ignition system wiring. To fire the rocket, use a standard model rocket launcher and controller. When the engine fires, the paper link is burnt quickly and the rocket zooms out of one tube and into the other. The campfire ignition system is rocket igniter (not motor - ive tried it and its a bad plan) based. Take a piece of bailing wire. Hold one rocket igniter on the end. Take a book of matches, remove from book, wrap around igniter. Tape using masking tape around the bottom. Make sure to bend the igniter leads out so you can attach to them. When the igniter goes, it will light all the matches. I used to do all of my wiring in the fire with cheap hook up wire, then wire it to a barrier strip (a sort of line of demarcation) before the wiring continued out to my controller. Hope this all makes sense. -- Mat G. Entertainment Technical Services Paramount's Great America "Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:18:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Light a fire from afar From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Now I > need to find a Dad with a boom lift truck to reach sixty or eighty > feet into the trees to set the upper end of the effect. See if one of the Dads works for a tree company - the guys around here use tree-climbing gear so they can rig lines & cut branches off tall trees in tight spaces. - John misc [at] mckernon.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1093627902.412f6ffe3b780 [at] webmail.bard.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:31:42 -0400 From: doran [at] bard.edu Subject: Little Shop Mug/BIG THANK YOU To All, This is a great list. A week-and-a-half ago, I put out an SOS for help in finding a source for a souvenir mug from Little Shop for our son, Quentin. The response has been wonderful. Special thanks to Steven Ehrenberg of Clear Channel, Brendan Quigley of Wicked, and Herrick Goldman. All of these folks went above and beyond the call, and your efforts are appreciated. You will all get your reward in Heaven, and my grattitude on this list. Steve Rees, of Fredonia, arranged a very special souvenir for this occaision. He contacted a friend, Jen Cody, who, aside from being a Broadway actor, is married to Hunter Foster, the original B'way Seymour. She picked up a mug at the theater, had her husband autograph it, and sent it on. When Quentin got this mug, he was so happy and excited that he cried. This was a big moment for him. Thank you, Steve. This list is a terriffic resource. The stagecraft information and discussion alone is enough to keep us all reading, but other help, other kindness, other "off-list" stuff, makes this a very special forum, indeed. I thank you all, and I will continue to make this list a part of my every day life. Sincerely, Andy Champ-Doran ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:51:52 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) Message-id: <412F74B8.4C80EAD0 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Herrick wrote: > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Sunil, I'll be in Central Park with flowers in my hair (and a Tazer so > I can resist arrest) , anyone want to come join me? I've got a frisbee. You can't gather in the park. The mayor says it's bad for the grass. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Subject: RE: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:55:24 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A74AC57 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > > Sunil, I'll be in Central Park with flowers in my hair (and=20 > a Tazer so > > I can resist arrest) , anyone want to come join me? I've=20 > got a frisbee. >=20 > You can't gather in the park. The mayor says it's bad for the grass. Sounds to me like the only thing necessarily bad for the grass would be = Uncle Bill's 30-year-old bong... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040827114106.01832858 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:41:06 From: CB Subject: Re: New Labor Rules >Have meeting on adgenda with the Portland office of DOL to review >industry specifics. Now remember, the new regs are a minimum requirement of the federal gov't. Anyone who works more than forty hours in a work week, or eight hours in a day, is working overtime regardless of what some bean counter wishes to call it. These folk SHOULD get some sort of compensation for the 'above and beyond'. Some un-official (but equally as public and important) privilege or access, time off when no one is looking, something, should be available for those that contribute more. I'm thinking that three twelves or four tens are a different story, and the three day or four day weekend are compensation for those. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040827114814.0208cd38 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:48:14 From: CB Subject: Re: Tools for da road >Sound guys + dancers (or actresses) Uhm, make that 'inexperienced sound guys + dancers (or actresses)' Most techs that have been around once or twice know that the fragile psyche of a dancer or actor and the constant need to be consoled and confirmed, that other crew are more stable mate choices. Sure, there are a few dancers and or actors that don't fit this stereotype, and if I ever meet one maybe I'll ask her out. OTOH, actors and dancers rarely consider crew as datable. "I don't date the help"... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040827115319.0208cd38 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:53:19 From: CB Subject: Re: Production Fundamentals > The 6:2:1 rule of festival survival. > At any given time, in the previous 24 hours you should have had >six good hours of sleep, two solid meals, and one shower and clean >clothes. Clean socks can change your whole attitude. I've been on gigs where the last decision of the day was "do I wan't that extra hour of sleep, a meal, or a shower?" I'm stealing this one... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003d01c48c68$ee16b710$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: Tools for da road Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:06:16 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- From: "CB" > > >Sound guys + dancers (or actresses) > > Uhm, make that 'inexperienced sound guys + dancers (or actresses)' > Most techs that have been around once or twice know that the fragile psyche > of a dancer or actor and the constant need to be consoled and confirmed, > that other crew are more stable mate choices. Sure, there are a few > dancers and or actors that don't fit this stereotype, and if I ever meet > one maybe I'll ask her out. OTOH, actors and dancers rarely consider crew > as datable. "I don't date the help"... Except in the am-dram world, of course.....! Remembering back (oh, a hundred years or so) my early days on the crew, it was almost a tradition for the dancers to be whisked away by the stage crew! 8-))))) Ah, them wuz the days.........! ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040827122943.0208cd38 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:29:43 From: CB Subject: Completely OT: Any Monk Fans with VCRs? I sort of dig the show, but I won't walk away from a card game to make sure I see it, nor have I taped it, sorry. But, while we're on the subject, does anyone make a habit of taping the Formula One races, practices, and qualifying? E-mail me off-list and we can start an exchange program for when we make the same mistake Andy made. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412F8EA9.8030706 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:42:33 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Subject: Re: Little Shop Mug/BIG THANK YOU References: Andy, Glad to be of help. Jen and Hunter thought it was pretty neat too and were glad to help. Best, Steve doran [at] bard.edu wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > To All, > > This is a great list. > > A week-and-a-half ago, I put out an SOS for help in finding a source for a > souvenir mug from Little Shop for our son, Quentin. The response has been > wonderful. >[snip] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <412F8F77.40501 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:45:59 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Subject: Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) References: When I first glanced at Bill's original message I thought I read THONG, not BONG and wondered just what the hell kind of activities he had in mind. Sorry for the scary image. ;) Steve Rees SUNY-Fredonia Paul Schreiner wrote: > > > Sounds to me like the only thing necessarily bad for the grass would be Uncle Bill's 30-year-old bong... ------------------------------ From: Subject: RE: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:07:02 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Well you can just rock me to sleep tonight :} Klyph When I first glanced at Bill's original message I thought I read THONG, not BONG and wondered just what the hell kind of activities he had in mind. Sorry for the scary image. ;) Steve Rees SUNY-Fredonia ------------------------------ Message-ID: <005901c48c73$f096aa30$6501a8c0 [at] cz1lbfinkbrlun> From: "Chad Croteau" References: Subject: Re: Hedda Gabler Dueling Pistols Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:25:04 -0400 Hey Mr. Johnson. Jauchem and Meeh rent all kinds of guns as well as various "show kits" for commonly done shows that require special effects. Check out their website at www.jmfx.com Hope this helps. Chad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnson, Keith" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:14 AM Subject: Hedda Gabler Dueling Pistols > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > We are preparing for a production of Ibsen's Hedda Gabler and I was > wondering if anybody had the dueling pistols needed for this production? > If you do not, I would appreciate it if anybody could point me in the > right direction to find some, either for rent, borrow, or purchase. > > For those of you who have done this production, have you used pistols > which fire a blank or black powder (shudder) or pistols which do not > actually fire and use a blank gun offstage?? > > Thanks for your help, you may contact the listserv or directly to me > via, keith.johnson [at] eku.edu > > > Keith W. Johnson > Designer/Technical Director > Associate Professor > EKU Theatre Program > 306 Campbell Building > Eastern Kentucky University > 521 Lancaster Ave. > Richmond, Kentucky 40475 > 859-622-1321 > email: keith.johnson [at] eku.edu > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:29:16 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <173031589.20040827152916 [at] TCON.net> Subject: Re[2]: Light a fire from afar In-Reply-To: References:

Howdy! Friday, August 27, 2004, Mat Goebel wrote: mg> There are two separate systems involved, a flaming arrow system mg> and a campfire ignition system. Thanks, Mat! I read the description of the "flaming arrow" and can visualize it well. mg> ...rocket igniter...book of matches...tape around the bottom. In earlier instances, I found the ignitor worked well to light a "fusee" road flare that had been buried in the soil at the center of the fire ring and surrounded by the fire "house." The ignitor was energized from a 9-volt radio battery through sacrificial zipcord. The fun of it all is doing the mumbo-jumbo to draw the boys into the effect and see their reaction as the house seems to ignite itself. One has to do it a little differently each year to keep the older blabbermouths from ruining the fun for the younger boys. Maybe I could rig up a 10 megawatt laser.... Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Eastablished 1946 Indianapolis 317: 255 4666 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:26:12 -0400 Subject: Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Bill, do you put the daisy in the rifle barrel or the bong? I forget. On Friday, Aug 27, 2004, at 07:17 America/New_York, Bsapsis [at] aol.com wrote: > y. > > Should be fun. > Bill > (this is me rummaging around in the attic looking for the old riot > helmet, > gas mask and bong. Haven't needed this stuff since the 70's) > > > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:27:47 -0400 Subject: Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Hmm.. Tuesday? It's an odd night but we're up against the holiday weekend when no-one is around. Or even Monday with Unkie Bill. On Friday, Aug 27, 2004, at 09:56 America/New_York, wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hmmmm. I feel a stagecraft gathering in NY coming on. My gig for next > week > has fallen through (for reasons having nothing to do with the RNC). > And I > would certainly like to grab another glass of Green Spot at DBA. > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:29:34 -0400 Subject: Re: Light a fire from afar From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <30AF5311-F870-11D8-A441-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com> How about helicopters and a giant magnifying glass? Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:37:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Arena Lighting From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <45EF6F7E-F871-11D8-A441-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com> Dave, Try the Coemar Panorama Cyc fxtures they change color and the big ones move. High Output in Boston has 6 or 8 of them and that should cover. www.coemar.com if that link doesn't work Good luck _Herrick > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:42:45 -0400 Subject: Re: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <07EFF1D9-F872-11D8-A441-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com> Sam, i was in Boston for the DNC and I can tell you it looked nothing like this! I saw 50 motorcycle cops going down 42nd st. yesterday with sirens going just so they could get thru. (they weren't even escorting anyone) The Subways have more people wearing blue than a Yankees game. I saw some odd little police vehicle with a periscope and some serious detection equipment tootling up 8th avenue. 8 people were arrested yesterday for blocking 8th avenue while naked, while at the same time 4 "riggers" hung a 30' banner from the plaza hotel and were promptly arrested. a few hundred mothers and children blocked the brooklyn Bridge today and a few thousand Bike riders plan to do something similar tomorrow. If that's what you call a convention the indeed it is. Buckle up and enjoy the ride. _H On Friday, Aug 27, 2004, at 12:31 America/New_York, Samuel Jones wrote: > > > This whole thread sound like there has been a successful terrorist > attack in Manhattan. It's known as the Republican Convention. > > Sam > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:42:06 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <429061089.20040827164206 [at] TCON.net> Subject: Re[2]: Light a fire from afar In-Reply-To: References:

Howdy! Friday, August 27, 2004, Herrick Goldman wrote: H> How about helicopters and a giant magnifying glass? GREAT idea! Except the program will be at night, so I'd need a big mirror in a geosynchronous orbit to redirect the sunlight... Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Eastablished 1946 Indianapolis 317: 255 4666 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net ------------------------------ Message-ID: <0aa901c48c7f$b2372470$0600a8c0 [at] alf> From: "Alf Sauve" References:

Subject: RE: Light a fire from afar Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:48:43 -0400 A couple of things. I prefer to use professional pyro matches as opposed to hobby rocket ones. I've had too many hobby ones fail on me. Secondly, you don't need anywhere near a megawatt laser. I was visiting a local laser repair shop and the owner showed me a 100W CO2 laser he was refurbing from NASA. It was water cooled and put out a white beam. He cranked it up and it was awesome. He couldn't leave the beam on for too long because it would burn through his 1" steel plates (plural) in just a few seconds. For reference 100Watts is considered a whole lot when it comes to lasers. A W H O L E lot. And not only did it take water cooling at a considerable flow, but I think he had it hooked to a 3phase 100amp box. As I remember it was about 5' high, 15' long and 5' wide. What does NASA do with this 100W laser? They use it to remotely start fires!!! It seems they have some environmental chambers (in Huntsville I think) and they try to duplicate the atmosphere on other planets. One experiment deals with seeing how things combust in these rare airs. So they use the laser, shot through a window, to start the fire. The idea is to provide heat without contaminating the atmosphere with an igniter. Alf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank E. Merrill" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 16:29 PM Subject: Re[2]: Light a fire from afar > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Howdy! > > Friday, August 27, 2004, Mat Goebel wrote: > > mg> There are two separate systems involved, a flaming arrow system > mg> and a campfire ignition system. > > Thanks, Mat! I read the description of the "flaming arrow" and can > visualize it well. > > mg> ...rocket igniter...book of matches...tape around the bottom. > > In earlier instances, I found the ignitor worked well to light a > "fusee" road flare that had been buried in the soil at the center of > the fire ring and surrounded by the fire "house." The ignitor > was energized from a 9-volt radio battery through sacrificial zipcord. > > The fun of it all is doing the mumbo-jumbo to draw the boys into the > effect and see their reaction as the house seems to ignite itself. > One has to do it a little differently each year to keep the older > blabbermouths from ruining the fun for the younger boys. > > Maybe I could rig up a 10 megawatt laser.... > > Best regards, > Frank E. Merrill > MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT > Eastablished 1946 > Indianapolis > 317: 255 4666 > > Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 > mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:02:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Light a fire from afar From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Wait Doesn't PRG rent those? I'm sure they have them in those big cubes they fly around in. On Friday, Aug 27, 2004, at 17:42 America/New_York, Frank E. Merrill wrote: > > > Friday, August 27, 2004, Herrick Goldman wrote: > > H> How about helicopters and a giant magnifying glass? > > GREAT idea! Except the program will be at night, so I'd need a big > mirror in a geosynchronous orbit to redirect the sunlight... > > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:12:28 -0500 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <17410619993.20040827171228 [at] TCON.net> Subject: Re[2]: Light a fire from afar In-Reply-To: References:

Howdy! Friday, August 27, 2004, Alf Sauve wrote: AS> Secondly, you don't need anywhere near a megawatt laser. I was visiting a AS> local laser repair shop and the owner showed me a 100W CO2 laser he was AS> refurbing from NASA. A hundred watts, eh? Well, I learned a long time ago that the 4.9 mW HeNe laser pattern unit in my rental stock won't even warm up a match head...tee hee hee. Side note to Ken Holyoak: This is why I haven't finished repairing your curtain yet... Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Eastablished 1946 Indianapolis 317: 255 4666 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v2.10.1 mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 23:42:22 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: a job posting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Jon Ares wrote: > Hope the new job is a better environment for you, Jeff. Glad you've moved > on. Absolutely ditto! Charlie ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <6d.3212c314.2e611413 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:47:47 EDT Subject: Re: Show Jumping Arena Lighting In a message dated 8/27/04 12:32:19 PM, dmbowman [at] syr.edu writes: << For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hey Gang, Looking to the wisdom of the list. I've been asked to design a lighting rig for a horse show (read: equestrian competition - jumping, dressage, etc...). The show takes place in a War Memorial arena. I need to cover an area larger than a hockey rink. I've been asked to design, because the merc vapor units in the arena do not dim (on or off with a definite "cycle-time" from strike to full) and they want to do something "interesting" for the competition. So my question to the list is, can anyone recommend a unit/fixture for me to look at? Something that dims is necessary, and something that either takes color or a scroller. My thought is units that would point straight down and wash the floor (shadows are an issue and light into the horses eyes is an absolute no-no). The mercs would be fine (quality/direction wise) for the competition, but they don't dim. The trim height is 40' Since this will be a major rig, I know that I'm looking at a truss set-up rented from one of the big houses (i.e. FourthPhase or similar). At the moment (for the next 6 days), money is no object. Any suggestions? >> I have not designed a jumping competition, but I have been in the arena and "hung around" a couple of major televised AGA ( American Grand Prix Association) show jumping competitions that were televised. Quite frankly they were lit not from directly overhead but from aproxx 200' long trusses that hung about directly over where the dasher boards would be if this were in fact in a hockey rink, , each truss was LOADED with just ordinary PAR 64 , probably MFL's and WFLs, , with tuff spun or something similar. This was high angle lighting, not directly overhead, , just "no color" wash. There was no attempt at color changing, this was a competition so that wasn't going to happen, and followspots were used for celebrity introductions and national anthem and the winners presentation. the biggest problem was people sitting in the front rows on either side wished that they had worn baseball caps as the glare of the truss from the opposite side was a bit obnoxious. the horses didn't seem to have any problem with it, these were major international competitions with Olympic and World Cup quality horses and riders. Here in Tampa , we host every year the AMERICAN INVITATIONAL, , the only true "stadium" show jumping event in the country. It is the culmination of the Winter Equestrian Festival the first part of which is in West Palm Beach's Wellington facility and the second half is at the Thomas Equestrian Center at the Florida State Fairgrounds. The AMERICAN INVIATIONAL is held on the turf of the Buccaneers RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM ( we refer to it as Ray Jay ) under the usual television quality stadium lighting. You can see this event every year on either ESPN or ESPN II. very best, Keith Arsenault International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, FL ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00ab01c48c93$0c8dfe90$e0db3b45 [at] taco> From: "don taco" References:

Subject: Re: Re[2]: Light a fire from afar Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:07:14 -0700 > > The fun of it all is doing the mumbo-jumbo to draw the boys into the > effect and see their reaction as the house seems to ignite itself. > One has to do it a little differently each year to keep the older > blabbermouths from ruining the fun for the younger boys. > > Maybe I could rig up a 10 megawatt laser.... > > Best regards, > Frank E. Merrill Select an 'honor guard' and give them each a laser pointer to 'aim' at the fire and 'start' it with. Select one ahead of time and train him to 'accidentally' point his laser at you and start a fire in your jacket pocket. Have a short lecture on tool safety and following instructions prepared... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 01:09:03 +0100 Subject: Completely OT: Any Monk Fans with VCRs? From: Tony Miller Message-ID: > while we're on the subject, > does anyone make a habit of taping the Formula One races, practices, and > qualifying? E-mail me off-list and we can start an exchange program for > when we make the same mistake Andy made. > Chris "Chris" Babbie I know it's only second best but all of the Grand Prix are streamed on the internet at many are the races I've listened to in hotel rooms and gigs on my laptop and it really makes me feel at home. Tony Miller ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040827223641.01b92b28 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:37:20 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re[2]: Light a fire from afar In-Reply-To: References:

At 03:29 PM 8/27/2004, Frank E. Merrill wrote: >Maybe I could rig up a 10 megawatt laser.... Don't forget a hazer so that you get the full effect. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:02:47 -0800 From: Jeff Kanyuck Subject: Re: a job posting Message-id: <000e01c48cbc$42d19bf0$ed4ced18 [at] Jeff> References: I feel completely happy about moving on. I was Technical Director, lighting designer, audio designer, lighting and audio board op, Video op (including camera setup, mixer, final cut pro editor, dubber), electrician, audio technician, rigger, carpenter, painter, advancing shows, hiring and firing when we had budget to have extra techs, rentals, dealing with care of the building such as heat, vent, grounds, paint, garbage... and as it's a black box the seating configuration is completely changeable via Wenger platforms and chairs (wonderful for this use by the way). I felt very taken advantage of over the last two years. The technical directors of two other companies here in town told me recently that they think Out North got too used to me being able to pull miracles out of my rear end to get the shows done and didn't realize what they had..... for instance this last year they wanted a real truck on stage. The largest door Out North has is 3' 9" wide. I did it all by myself except for the help of one man for two hours. In a lot of ways the job challenged my abilities and creativity. I appreciate that but, feel I wasn't being properly compensated for it. I take that and all that you folks have said as a compliment. And ! thank you all for it, I've needed it. I am in the process of getting things packed for the move to be Technical Director for Harford Community College in Bel Air, Maryland. They seem like good people, a wonderful facility (needs a touch of tweeking) and I feel that they are paying and giving benefits that are terrific not only for my job, but, also for the area of living. I looked for a job before.. but, was never comfortable with the pay or health package combination. I have a family to take care of. But, this looks like "the one" so we shall see. I love this list. I'll be on and off for a while.. Take care all, Jeff Kanyuck Soon moving out of Alaska ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boyd Ostroff" To: "Stagecraft" > I agree that this sounds like a good place to leave. If I announced I was > leaving and then my employer said they were going to offer my successor > 30% more, give them some new benefits, and they also complained that my > job suffered because I was too tired.... well I would take that as a big > slap in the face. It's like saying that they weren't happy with you and > want your replacement to be better, so naturally they will pay them more. > > > I think the first line of the position states Jeff's (former) employer's > > take on Jeff: "Committed, friendly professional > > I think that actions speak louder than words myself... Good riddance to a > place like that! > > Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia > Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 > ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 > http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 > > > ------------------------------ From: Subject: RE: a job posting Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 03:06:41 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: OK, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. I do not doubt that you have legitimate complaints about your present employer, but I wonder if airing them in a very public forum is in your best interest. While you may choose to stay at Harford (and welcome to the area, BTW)for the rest of your life, statistically, that seems unlikely. So, what you have now done is to demonstrate to every person on this list your willingness to speak badly of your present employer. I imagine I am not alone in questioning if I would employ you, if your resume came across my desk. How would you speak of me in an equally open forum? Again, I am sure you have valid complaints. Who has not been in a situation where they feel taken advantage of by an employer? But this is a small business (as this list proves) and it would seem wise not to burn any more bridges than is absolutely neccessary. I wish you the best in your new position. Klyph Stanford Jeff Kanyuck wrote (snipped) Subject: RE: RNC (or the Police State that ate Manhattan) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 03:09:31 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: For the moment, my schedule is wide open. Anyone else going to be in NY next week? Klyph > Hmmmm. I feel a stagecraft gathering in NY coming on. My gig for next > week > has fallen through (for reasons having nothing to do with the RNC). > And I > would certainly like to grab another glass of Green Spot at DBA. > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #115 *****************************