Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2) with PIPE id 4333208; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:00:38 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #124 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:00:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-pre4 (2004-08-04) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BANG_GUAR, BAYES_00,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=ham version=3.0.0-pre4 X-Spam-Level: X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4a3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #124 1. Re: Cheseborough ratings by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 2. Re: Balloon Drops by Bill Schaffell 3. Stagecraft lesson plans by Mike Rock 4. Re: Stagecraft lesson plans by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 5. Re: Cheseborough ratings by "Matthew Breton" 6. Re: Stagecraft lesson plans (long) by MissWisc [at] aol.com 7. Re: Balloon Drops by Fred Fisher 8. Re: Stagecraft lesson plans by John Bracewell 9. Designer anniversaries and more, and a cry for help by CB 10. Re: Stagecraft lesson plans by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 11. Re: Stagecraft lesson plans by "Delbert Hall" 12. Re: Stagecraft lesson plans by John Bracewell 13. LDI in October by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 14. Re: Designer anniversaries and more, and a cry for help by Mike Brubaker 15. Re: LDI in October by Herrick Goldman 16. Re: Stagecraft lesson plans by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 17. Re: LDI in October by "Jason" 18. Re: LDI in October by Richard Niederberg 19. thanks for correcting me by "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" 20. Need some quotes for lighting instruments by "Adam Berns" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <9e.13defe65.2e6ca6e0 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:29:04 EDT Subject: Re: Cheseborough ratings In a message dated 04/09/04 21:17:12 GMT Daylight Time, vze2gmht [at] verizon.net writes: > > Kee Klamp and Holleander don't make cheeseboroughs - that is, they don't > make the double-clamshell rigid or swivel clamps that most of us call a > "Cheeseborough." Granted that they are intended for preserving the location of the tube members in what are usually compression structures. But this implies load-bearing capabilities. They are not, as far as I know, tested and rated as are shackles and chain, but a capable and experienced scaffold erector knows what they will or will not take. That is why these people often produce heavily over-engineered structures. Has anyone any opinion of proprietary scaffolding systems, such as 'Cuplock' or 'Wedgelock', which are usually assembled with a 2lb hammer? They seem to me to have too many welds to be secure, unless there is good quality control. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <413B60F7.1000501 [at] earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:54:47 -0700 From: Bill Schaffell Subject: Re: Balloon Drops We inflated the balloons in Madison Square Garden with air from a compressor that we brought in. It was hooked up to a 42 valve manifold system and took about 6 hours to inflate all of the balloons with 140 "blowers". (yes, every balloon was tied by hand) In addition we had 15 local One guys dealing with the balloon net rigging. It took the riggers 12 hours to hang the 50 bags. Air filled balloons weight as much as empty balloons! Regarding water filled balloons... when you have secret service watching every move you make this just isn't an option. QUOTED How do you inflate 100,000+ balloons? How long does it take? How many hours? Do you do it on site or inflate them elsewhere and take bring them over to the venue. What do you fill them with? How much does a filled balloon weigh? What amount of cubic space does a filled balloon occupy? Are you ever tempted to include at least one water filled balloon in an order that size? Have you ever succumbed to that temptation? I'm being so nosy to get an idea what the amount of time and labor goes into such a short but fun event. Thanks, Fred -- Bill Schaffell WJS Studios 909-986-2363 http://www.wjsStudios.com/ ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20040905155714.00aad740 [at] pop-server.new.rr.com> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 15:59:43 -0500 From: Mike Rock Subject: Stagecraft lesson plans In-Reply-To: I am in the process of getting my independent study approved for next semester and one of the required things is a lesson plan and a way to evaluate myself. While I have a rough idea on what I want to teach myself I am rather clueless about grading myself. So I am asking for a little help. I know this list has a few teachers and a few that teach technical theater so I figure what better place to ask. As far as a lesson plan goes how detailed should it be? Right now mine looks like: Safety 2 Units basic electronics 3 knots and proper applications 2 Shop (fasteners, tools, techniques) 4 Finishing techniques (feather brushing shading and dry brushing etc) 2 Stage management 3 Rigging 5 Light design and conventionals 5 Light programing and moving lights 5 Sound 8 Whats What (proper use of rack gear and counsel) Signal path Microphone types and selection Micing techniques Advanced Audio (digital and the like) Trouble shooting Costume and props 5 Final exit project: Talent Show Right now I have about 44 'units' of material to cover, because I need 76 hours to get credit for the class I think each unit will be a two hour block of time. I have rather limited resources and when I asked about what my budget for books and supplies were I was shot a side ways glance and the answer We can discuses that when we move forward with this.So for now I will be using Life on the Road by William R. Boswell which is a good book that covers the basics of touring production until I get another book. If some one could suggest another good book or a few cheaper but more detailed books I might be willing to pick them up out of pocket. Also if someone knows of a resource for work sheets or tests or if some one would be willing to share theirs that would be great. Mike Rock rockm [at] new.rr.com ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <96.1408063a.2e6cdadf [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 17:10:55 EDT Subject: Re: Stagecraft lesson plans So what's with the 8 points for sound and only 5 points for rigging? If you don't up the points for rigging, we won't hang the sound! <> Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: Re: Cheseborough ratings Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:37:28 -0400 Message-ID: >Has anyone any opinion of proprietary scaffolding systems, such as >'Cuplock' >or 'Wedgelock', which are usually assembled with a 2lb hammer? They seem to >me >to have too many welds to be secure, unless there is good quality control. The Stomp tour travels with a wedgelock scaffolding system. We never had a problem with it, although I think I prefer cheeseboroughs and c-wrenches to wedgelocks and hammers (and plenty, plenty of hearing protection!) Matthew Breton Tecnical Director The River Rep _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <15.3249a77d.2e6cf5f7 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 19:06:31 EDT Subject: Re: Stagecraft lesson plans (long) Cc: rockm [at] new.rr.com Mike - Your lesson plans need to be more detailed -- you're "selling" this idea to non-theatre people so you need to speak their (administrative educational gobbledygook) language. Phrase your objectives in terms of what you will be able to do and make it sound important. E.g., I will: identify... (6 common knots and their applications) (common stage hardware) program... (a moving light to light any area of the stage in any color) read... (and create an annotated bibliography of n books) demonstrate... ( my skills by designing, hanging, and running a light plot for X-Show) (ability in sound reinforcement by designing the placement of sound elements and running the board for X-Show) (10 painting techniques) design... (a prop to do Y for X-Show) (a set of costumes for character Q in X-Show) (a floor plan for X-Show) (a scenic element in scale model form for X-Show) attend... (three professional shows at the PAC, interview crew members of each) Use terms such as: define, describe, list, match, estimate, compute, diagram, relate, create, design, appraise, compare, and contrast. The evaluation then becomes you demonstrating that you've done the things you said you would. More accurate than any paper/pencil test and more appropriate to stagecraft. Put less on than you're planning to do so you aren't penalized for not completing the list. Honestly, I'd suggest you look at sound/rigging/lighting this time, then scenic/costume/prop/hair/makeup another time, or set up your list as priorities and have an "if time permits" section on the bottom. For simplicity's sake, I'd suggest you take a show you'd love to do but haven't yet done and use it as the focus for your tasks as possible. Have your "stage management" part be demonstrated by you teaching/supervising a small crew - perhaps for the talent show?? Get the "Backstage Handbook" $15 or so to buy, but I know of no one locally who stocks them. UW Madison is probably the closest bookstore IF someone there is using them for class this semester. Author is Paul Carter (since deceased), Broadway Press, ISBN 0-911747-14-1 Get the most recent edition you can #3?? #4?? Unkle Bill Sapsis sells them (http://www.sapsis-rigging.com) and you can ask him for some "ideas" too of what to start with. He's a smart man and fair to deal with. I've got a "teaching" stage plug with a clear cover you can borrow with the understanding I get it back when you're done with it. I've also got an older book on HS theatre you can have to give you some historical perspective. Might have some other things too if I can ever get through the boxes from the move. Start to collect catalogs of what's out there and begin your personal "library" in a big 3-ring binder. Unkle Bill's online catalog has hours worth of material in it about rigging, what to do, what not to do, and so on. If you haven't seen Herrick's web page demonstration of his lighting designs, you need to do that. Boyd's got a ton of things on his site. Scott's too. Look at the URLs in sigs on here and visit those sites. We learn a lot from each other. As for other books... The Yamaha Sound Handbook is a common "text" for sound, Corson's book for makeup is not worth the $$ IMHO - when you're ready, give me a call and I'll teach you that. (We could open it up as a lab for other students!) For wardrobe don't buy a book. Look at http://www.costumes.org for the Costumer's Manifesto. Tara has a wealth of info on there, amazing lady. Since you don't need the books for the full semester, get them through interlibrary loan! Ask at the public library to see what's on Wis-Cat. Start asking now. You can make a single photocopy of whatever you need under the copyright "fair use" provisions and send the book back. You'll probably find some books are worth the money to have and you won't be mid-March waiting for something that a Ph.D. student has checked out of UW-Milwaukee. I do a scavenger hunt where I have my students look through a variety of stage-related catalogs for various things. I can send that to you and you can stop by and look at the catalogs I have to complete it. (The premise is the director has told you to get things like "a barn door" and you know he's not talking dairy cows! What is it, what does it do, where can you buy it, and how much does it cost?) Is Steve supervising you? I'd be glad to help out too. Perhaps your final exam could be passing the test that matches the study guide you've been working on this summer. ;D I do the vast majority of my class testing as hands-on. I don't care if you can write about stagecraft, I need to know you can DO it correctly. I've started giving written safety pretests to everyone as a CYA. Had been doing it hands-on, but learned I need the paper to prove that they know what they should. Learned that from Doc Doom and Jay Stone at the ISETSA convention. Doc Doom has been working on a book about HS theatre safety that could proove very valuable to you. I'm certain he'd email you pertinent sections if you ask. Kristi R-C IA stagehand, professional makeup artist, now proud "mom" to the next generation of stagehands in the Fox Valley. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:11:34 -0500 From: Fred Fisher Subject: Re: Balloon Drops In-reply-to: Message-id: <5.2.1.1.2.20040905180417.00bc1078 [at] wiscmail.wisc.edu> At 11:54 AM 9/5/2004 -0700, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- >Bill Schaffell wrote: >We inflated the balloons in Madison Square Garden with air from a >compressor that we brought in. It was hooked up to a 42 valve manifold >system and took about 6 hours to inflate all of the balloons with 140 >"blowers". (yes, every balloon was tied by hand) In addition we had 15 >local One guys dealing with the balloon net rigging. It took the riggers >12 hours to hang the 50 bags. > >Air filled balloons weight as much as empty balloons! Regarding water >filled balloons... when you have secret service watching every move you >make this just isn't an option. So, that comes down to about 30 seconds to fill, tie and stow each balloon with no breaks. Thanks for the info. Twenty years ago we did the projection at both political conventions. Our hand on the scene, who spent most of his time below the dais, next to the bomb trap, told us that on the balloon drop after VP HW's speech on Wed., when one of the balloon bags didn't open, the local stage hand ran out on the catwalk and opened it manually. When he got back to the crew area, the secret service man there told him that if he tried that the next night when Reagan was there, he'd drop him on the spot. Fred ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20040905202556.00ace090 [at] pop.lightlink.com> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 20:33:05 -0400 From: John Bracewell Subject: Re: Stagecraft lesson plans In-Reply-To: References: Mike, I'm going to suggest that even the most basic electronics are going to take much more time than you have unless you already have a pretty good knowledge of electricity and electronics. And I notice that you didn't say basic electricity in there anywhere. Also, how does it happen that you break down sound into sub-categories, but not lighting or any other aspect? I think I agree with Kristi that you need to organize these things around action verbs that will allow an evaluator to verify that you can perform the action specified in your syllabus. I'd also suggest that you make a weighted chart, showing aspects that are--well, probably not most essential to getting a production onstage, because all are essential. Let's just say that some are bigger and more involved areas than others and probably need more attention. Also, you seem to be trying to cover the entire field. You can't really do that, in depth, without multiple studies. So I'd also suggest some careful narrowing of your coverage. If you're going to continue to include sound, I'll make so bold as to suggest my own book, Sound Design in the Theatre, as one you might want to look up. -- JLB ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040905175322.01839200 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 17:53:22 From: CB Subject: Designer anniversaries and more, and a cry for help >14th Anniversary of the birth of Edward Kook, the "Ko" of the "Leko" >developed by Century Lighting Seems I've been hearing the term "leko" for more than 14 years, but hey, I'm just a skweek, what do I know. As for the cry for help, I just picked up another system really cheap from a naked bar that I did the installation for. Nice gear, but they made me take the lights, too. I got a Martin 2518 and a Freekie controller, and a coupla Roboscans (812's). I get DMX, and I almost understand DMX lighting controllers (imagine speaking english to the smartest dog you know, and it's like they almost understand you. That's me with DMX lighting desks), but I can't figure out the sequence to get the 812's to lamp on without going past the reset instrument feature, and then the lamp won't strike. Yes, the lamps are good, both of them strike in the 'auto' functions. Anyhoo, anyone with a coupla spare minutes and a knowledge of all of these pieces of gear that can borrow me a clue, pop me a note off-list. Oh, and yeah, I have the manuals for all of these, and I've read 'em. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Stagecraft lesson plans Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 18:27:19 -0700 Message-ID: <001401c493b0$a745e780$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-Reply-To: Might I suggest that it would be more than vital for you to use John Bracewell's book, as a stellar example of how to go about your chosen quest for knowledge and teaching. Doom ==================================================== A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops ==================================================== Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the world a healthier & safer place. Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com ==================================================== International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org ==================================================== 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of John Bracewell Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 5:33 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Stagecraft lesson plans For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Mike, I'm going to suggest that even the most basic electronics are going to take much more time than you have unless you already have a pretty good knowledge of electricity and electronics. And I notice that you didn't say basic electricity in there anywhere. Also, how does it happen that you break down sound into sub-categories, but not lighting or any other aspect? I think I agree with Kristi that you need to organize these things around action verbs that will allow an evaluator to verify that you can perform the action specified in your syllabus. I'd also suggest that you make a weighted chart, showing aspects that are--well, probably not most essential to getting a production onstage, because all are essential. Let's just say that some are bigger and more involved areas than others and probably need more attention. Also, you seem to be trying to cover the entire field. You can't really do that, in depth, without multiple studies. So I'd also suggest some careful narrowing of your coverage. If you're going to continue to include sound, I'll make so bold as to suggest my own book, Sound Design in the Theatre, as one you might want to look up. -- JLB ------------------------------ From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: RE: Stagecraft lesson plans Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 22:10:06 -0400 Organization: ETSU Message-ID: <000001c493b6$a15fd640$6400a8c0 [at] delbert> In-Reply-To: Hi Mike, It would help us to know: 1) Your class status (Freshman, Sophomore, Junior, or Senior) 2) What tech/design classes you have already taken (if you have not taken any, why?) 3) Your career goals Is this a 3 credit hour independent study course? Is so, I am confused as to why you are trying to cover so much in one course. While I think these are all good topics to learn about, it seems to me that this plan would not let you learn very much about any one subject. You know what they say about a person with a little knowledge don't you? I suggest that you begin by sticking to only one area (rigging, lighting design, sound, etc). Master it before moving on to the next. Each area that you have listed would certainly keep you busy for an entire semester. Also, write your objectives by stating that at the end of the course you should be able to: 1. ______________ 2. ______________ 3. ______________ (fill in the blanks). If you don't know what your objectives should be, we will help you, once we know where you are in your education and where you want to go.=20 -Delbert Hall Professor East Tennessee State University -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rock Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 5:00 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Stagecraft lesson plans For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I am in the process of getting my independent study approved for next=20 semester and one of the required things is a lesson plan and a way to=20 evaluate myself. While I have a rough idea on what I want to teach myself I=20 am rather clueless about grading myself. So I am asking for a little help.=20 I know this list has a few teachers and a few that teach technical theater=20 so I figure what better place to ask. As far as a lesson plan goes how=20 detailed should it be? Right now mine looks like: Safety 2 Units basic electronics 3 knots and proper applications 2 Shop (fasteners, tools, techniques) 4 Finishing techniques (feather brushing shading and dry brushing etc) 2 Stage management 3 Rigging 5 Light design and conventionals 5 Light programing and moving lights 5 Sound 8 Whats What (proper use of rack gear and counsel) Signal path Microphone types and selection Micing techniques Advanced Audio (digital and the like) Trouble shooting Costume and props 5 Final exit project: Talent Show Right now I have about 44 'units' of material to cover, because I need 76=20 hours to get credit for the class I think each unit will be a two hour=20 block of time. I have rather limited resources and when I asked about what=20 my budget for books and supplies were I was shot a side ways glance and the=20 answer =1DWe can discuses that when we move forward with this.=1DSo for = now I=20 will be using Life on the Road by William R. Boswell which is a good book=20 that covers the basics of touring production until I get another book. If some one could suggest another good book or a few cheaper but more=20 detailed books I might be willing to pick them up out of pocket. Also if someone knows of a resource for work sheets or tests or if some one would=20 be willing to share theirs that would be great. Mike Rock rockm [at] new.rr.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20040905221559.00acfc30 [at] pop.lightlink.com> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 22:18:21 -0400 From: John Bracewell Subject: Re: Stagecraft lesson plans In-Reply-To: References: >Might I suggest that it would be more than vital for you to use John >Bracewell's book, as a stellar example of how to go about your chosen >quest for knowledge and teaching. Doom Randy, thanks for the plug, but the Yamaha Sound Reinforcement Handbook is a very good book. I don't think I'd suggest that my text is any more (or less) useful, depending on a person's needs and focus. The Yamaha book is a great deal more technical than mine. Depending on one's focus, it could easily provide more of the information one might want. -- JLB ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <15b.3e7f1651.2e6d244e [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 22:24:14 EDT Subject: LDI in October Hi kids. Anyone going to LDI? I'm on one panel that I know of ("How Heavy is That?) on the 24th in the afternoon and I heard a rumor I'm on another. If your in town please come by and heckle. Last time LDI was in Vegas I vaguely remember that Herrick, me, Sloan and a few others did a little stepping out. Might be nice to do something again, eh? Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040905212949.01ebb8f0 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 21:30:59 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Designer anniversaries and more, and a cry for help In-Reply-To: References: I think that there's a vaccine for that now. See your doctor. Mike At 12:53 PM 9/5/2004, CB wrote: >I get DMX, and I almost understand DMX lighting ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 23:08:12 -0400 From: Herrick Goldman Subject: Re: LDI in October Yeah I'll be there! Stepping out is guaranteed! I taught Heather Carson's Grad students to play blackjack last time. Anyone have any idea where they are staying? I'm toying iwth the idea of The Hard Rock but would prefer to stay where most of the folks i know are staying? Bruce, Sara, Kara, Ken, Andrew, Willy and others your input is requested. We'll try to organize an SC gathering but it;s really hard in Vegas with everyone so spread out. -H -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Stagecraft lesson plans Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 20:18:40 -0700 Message-ID: <001f01c493c0$35f1a7d0$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-Reply-To: Humility will not get you any where with me. I know talent and professionalism when I see it, and the expertise to instruct, which is a gift, a real gift in this industry. Doom ==================================================== A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel - Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc. April 4, 5, 6, 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops ==================================================== Risk International & Associates, Inc. - Dedicated to making the world a healthier & safer place. Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com ==================================================== International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts. Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org ==================================================== 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767 Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961 ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of John Bracewell Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 7:18 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Stagecraft lesson plans For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- >Might I suggest that it would be more than vital for you to use John >Bracewell's book, as a stellar example of how to go about your chosen >quest for knowledge and teaching. Doom Randy, thanks for the plug, but the Yamaha Sound Reinforcement Handbook is a very good book. I don't think I'd suggest that my text is any more (or less) useful, depending on a person's needs and focus. The Yamaha book is a great deal more technical than mine. Depending on one's focus, it could easily provide more of the information one might want. -- JLB ------------------------------ From: "Jason" References: Subject: Re: LDI in October Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 20:53:27 -0700 Message-ID: But the Monorail doesn't go bye the Hardrock! From: "Herrick Goldman" > Yeah I'll be there! Stepping out is guaranteed! I taught Heather > Carson's Grad students to play blackjack last time. Anyone have any > idea where they are staying? I'm toying iwth the idea of The Hard > Rock but would prefer to stay where most of the folks i know are > staying? Bruce, Sara, Kara, Ken, Andrew, Willy and others your input > is requested. > > We'll try to organize an SC gathering but it;s really hard in Vegas > with everyone so spread out. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 20:59:10 -0700 Subject: Re: LDI in October Message-ID: <20040905.211535.5748.0.ladesigners [at] juno.com> From: Richard Niederberg Dear Bill, I'll be at LDI to evaluate products and try to encourage Joel Rubin versus Ed Kook -style shoot-outs between vendors. But all I can fit in this year is to drop in from LA on Saturday morning and split Sunday morning. Too bad I'll miss an opportunity to try and 'Stump the Rigger' as we all LOVE to do at USITT... /s/ Richard > Hi kids. Anyone going to LDI? I'm on one panel that > I know of ("How Heavy is That?) on the 24th in the > afternoon and I heard a rumor I'm on another. If your > in town please come by and heckle. > Bill S. ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today! ------------------------------ From: "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" Subject: thanks for correcting me Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 00:47:22 -0400 Message-ID: Hey folks! Thanks for finding my errors! For those who follow such things, the Appia anniversary is 142 not 42. This was a simple error in the cut and paste process to my list e-mail, the web had it right (whew). But the funnier one was over Ed Kook who indeed is not currently 14 years old! (as they say, to err is human but to REALLY F*** you need a computer!). Alas it is hard to verify dates of non movie stars but I did manage to find my Kook dates and as the poster surmised this should indeed be the anniversary of this passing....if only bringing people back to life would be so easy! Thanks again folks! RF ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 01:19:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200409060119.AA1305739424 [at] adamb.com> From: "Adam Berns" Subject: Need some quotes for lighting instruments So, finally, after 40 years, we get new lights. This is for Gunn High Scho= ol in Palo Alto, CA, 94306. Send quotes off-list to me at gunn [at] adamb.com. = Make sure to include any shipping and tax. If you are in the bay area, ar= rangements can be made to pick them up. Payment will be made by PO, Check,= or Credit Card. =95 12 ETC Source 4 Jr. Zooms =95 6 Altman 6=94 Fresnels =95 6 Altman Par64 =95 All Instruments need C-Clamps =95 All Instruments need to be wired with 15amp (old style twist Lock, I th= ink it is known as a L5-15P) =95 All Instruments need gel holders =95 6 Barn Doors for the Fresnels =95 6 Barn Doors for the Par Cans =95 5 M gobo holders (for the source 4s) =95 24 Safety Cables =95 16 HPL575/115/LL Lamps (this should be the longer life model) =95 8 BTN Lamps (for the Fresnels) =95 8 FFS Lamps (for the Par64s) ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #124 *****************************