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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #130

 1. Spetember 11
    by Bsapsis [at] aol.com
 2. Repost: JCB Air Nail Gun in Argos UK
    by "kick-butt" <all [at] kick-butt.co.uk>
 3. Re: Spetember 11
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
 4. Re: D192 dimmer rack info
    by LITETROL [at] aol.com
 5. Re: D192 dimmer rack info
    by "Alf Sauve" <alf [at] sauve.org>
 6. Technobeam  and Express 125 help
    by "will kent" <etcs4 [at] hotmail.com>
 7. Re: Spetember 11
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
 8. Re: Technobeam  and Express 125 help
    by "Fitch, Tracy" <tfitch [at] email.uncc.edu>
 9. Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts
    by "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
10. Re: Spetember 11
    by Bsapsis [at] aol.com
11. Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
12. Re: Technobeam and Express 125 help
    by "will kent" <etcs4 [at] hotmail.com>
13. Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts
    by "Douglas McCracken" <dbasMcCracken [at] hawaii.rr.com>
14. Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts
    by "Adam Berns" <ab [at] adamb.com>
15. Re: Grund Audio Design
    by "Daryl Redmon" <jonathand01 [at] sbcglobal.net>
16. Re: storm
    by "Robert P. Robins" <hipplights [at] gator.net>
17. Re: Remotely Firing a Pistol
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
18. Re: Stagecraft course
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
19. Re: Stairs
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
20. borderlining on OT: t-shirts
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
21. Re: Lycra
    by usctd [at] columbia.sc
22. Re: LDI in October
    by usctd [at] columbia.sc
23. Re: storm
    by "Alf Sauve" <alf [at] sauve.org>
24. waterproof sealer for cardboard?
    by "Robert Bell" <buffobob [at] yahoo.com>
25. Re: waterproof sealer for cardboard?
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
26. Re: Remotely firing a pistol
    by June Abernathy <jea00321 [at] yahoo.com>
27. Re: waterproof sealer for cardboard?
    by "Chad Croteau" <cpcroteau [at] kelcom.igs.net>
28. Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts
    by <klyphs [at] earthlink.net>
29. Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts
    by "Chad Croteau" <cpcroteau [at] kelcom.igs.net>
30. borderlining on OT: t-shirts
    by "Carson Koz Noel" <lsfxco [at] cox.net>

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From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <27.614bc781.2e74373a [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:10:50 EDT
Subject: Spetember 11

Hi group.  

How's about, while you go about your life today, you stop for just a moment 
or two and remember those that didn't survive and their families.

Bill S.




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Message-ID: <001601c497f0$ad5c7780$0100a8c0 [at] tricia>
From: "kick-butt" <all [at] kick-butt.co.uk>
Subject: Repost: JCB Air Nail Gun in Argos UK
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:15:42 +0100

I can't find my email in the Archives and have had no emails from list for 2
days so will try again.
If there has been reply's can some one please forward to me .

Repost:

UK Only


Hi,
Yes I know this is a cheap model but if it takes type 90 series staples it
will do the job for me.
JCB Air Nail Gun in Argos UK.
So question any one know if it will take type 90 staples ?

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=2501&productId=100288

Or know where I can get on in the same price bracket in the uk new \ second
hand if it work I will have it.

Regards
Chris
(cheapskate)




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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:22:29 -0400
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
Subject: Re: Spetember 11

And stop by a firehouse or police station and say "thank you" (even 
if they arrested you, or your daughter, last week).

-H

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>---------------------------------------------------
>
>Hi group. 
>
>How's about, while you go about your life today, you stop for just a moment
>or two and remember those that didn't survive and their families.
>
>Bill S.


-- 

Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com

"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness 
and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS

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From: LITETROL [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <b8.6220f54a.2e744bf8 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:39:20 EDT
Subject: Re: D192 dimmer rack info

In a message dated 9/10/04 7:12:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rcargile [at] uci.edu 
writes:

<< Here's a longshot... Does anyone know where I might find any documentation 
for a LeeColortran Dimension192 dimmer rack?   I think the fan in mine has 
gone sneakers up.  I'd love to have more info on the rack before I tear into it 
and explore. >>

Ron, and you didn't call me first?  What kind of info would you like?  LCT 
used 2 different versions of the fan top section: but what they both had in 
common was a fan motor (one of two different types), a fan shroud (type dependent 
on the fan motor), a circuit breaker, and an SSR (to turn the fan on/off from 
a 5 volt source in the control modules).  There is also a vane switch, which 
monitors to amount of airflow and will shut off the dimmers on loss of 
airflow.....

best,  s.

steve short
steve [at] litetrol.com
1 800 548 3876 (LITETRO)
fax 516 681 7288
lite-trol service company, inc.
485 w. john street
Hicksville  NY  11801

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Message-ID: <023601c49800$7831ad40$0600a8c0 [at] alf>
From: "Alf Sauve" <alf [at] sauve.org>
References: <list-4379284 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: D192 dimmer rack info
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:08:04 -0400

I have dual 48 module ETC Sensor racks and both fans have failed in their 
first 6 years of service.   The last one was on a weekend night.  I yanked a 
large (12") ventilator fan out of a bathroom.  Duck taped it to the top of 
the Sensor Rack and was able to keep airflow for till Tuesday when the 
replacement fan arrived.

Also, I ordered the replacement fan from Allied Electronics at a third the 
cost than of the same fan through an ETC dealer.


Alf

ps I got a replacement vent fan on that Monday for the bathroom.  The old 
one is kept in the dimmer room as an emergency backup.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <LITETROL [at] aol.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: D192 dimmer rack info


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> In a message dated 9/10/04 7:12:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> rcargile [at] uci.edu
> writes:
>
> << Here's a longshot... Does anyone know where I might find any 
> documentation
> for a LeeColortran Dimension192 dimmer rack?   I think the fan in mine has
> gone sneakers up.  I'd love to have more info on the rack before I tear 
> into it
> and explore. >>
>
> Ron, and you didn't call me first?  What kind of info would you like?  LCT
> used 2 different versions of the fan top section: but what they both had 
> in
> common was a fan motor (one of two different types), a fan shroud (type 
> dependent
> on the fan motor), a circuit breaker, and an SSR (to turn the fan on/off 
> from
> a 5 volt source in the control modules).  There is also a vane switch, 
> which
> monitors to amount of airflow and will shut off the dimmers on loss of
> airflow.....
>
> best,  s.
>
> steve short
> steve [at] litetrol.com
> 1 800 548 3876 (LITETRO)
> fax 516 681 7288
> lite-trol service company, inc.
> 485 w. john street
> Hicksville  NY  11801 


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From: "will kent" <etcs4 [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Technobeam  and Express 125 help
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:12:52 +0000
Message-ID: <BAY24-F9dlfN0l0UApW000fc498 [at] hotmail.com>




Hey every one,


  My highschool has our pep rally in a week and my crew friends and I got 
approval to rent 5 technobeams. Im really excited to get my hands on them. 
My question to you is do you guys have any helpful tips on programing them 
on an Express 125. I already have patched them as a moving light, are there 
any things to make the programing go faster? I want to do some circular 
scans of the crowd and different effects. Thanks in advance.

Will Kent
www.kentlighting.cjb.net

_________________________________________________________________
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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <fa.d56248.2e747501 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:34:25 EDT
Subject: Re: Spetember 11


In a message dated 9/11/04 8:22:18 AM, Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com writes:

<< And stop by a firehouse or police station and say "thank you" (even 
if they arrested you, or your daughter, last week).

-H >>

agreed, ,,   but I am curious as to what your daughter was doing last week 
Herrick, , that WAS your daughter, , right ? ? 

very best, 

Keith Arsenault
International Arts & Entertainment Group
Tampa, FL

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Subject: RE: Technobeam  and Express 125 help
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:25:29 -0400
Message-ID: <A01ABA2A211C644596549C5FF91C50E428049B [at] EXEVS02.its.uncc.edu>
From: "Fitch, Tracy" <tfitch [at] email.uncc.edu>

Will, did you get a profile for them or build your own?

You want to make sure your fixtures have the all the position, strobe,
etc. values set as independent so you don't lose them if you punch up a
blackout.

After that, make sure to sit down with each individual fixture's config
and do all the (invert x, invert y, reverse x-y) stuff until moving your
finger left on the trackpad makes the beam move left and moving up moves
the beam the up (all from your programming desk position).  Spending a
few minutes now make the whole programming process much more intuitive.

As for the circular pans, may god have mercy on your soul.  (just
kidding, its really a matter of building a whole pile of cues that
autofollow -- but circular pans are one of the things that make moving
light consoles seem much more reasonably priced.  Its just a few button
pushes on a grandMA to do what you'll probably spend a couple of hours
tweaking out.  But you can make it work with the equipment you have.) =20
--Tracy Fitch
TD, UNC Charlotte; LD, Everywhere Else

> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Technobeam and Express 125 help
>=20
>   My highschool has our pep rally in a week and my crew friends and I
got
> approval to rent 5 technobeams. Im really excited to get my hands on
them.
> My question to you is do you guys have any helpful tips on programing
them
> on an Express 125. I already have patched them as a moving light, are
> there
> any things to make the programing go faster? I want to do some
circular
> scans of the crowd and different effects. Thanks in advance.
>=20


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Message-ID: <002001c49829$933d0f70$0b0aa8c0 [at] D10SKY11>
From: "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
References: <list-4378596 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 13:02:59 -0500

>> "Top Ten Uses for a Stage Weight."

so what would those be?  inquiring minds want to know.



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From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <14.3373c8f5.2e74cf67 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:00:07 EDT
Subject: Re: Spetember 11


In a message dated 9/11/04 11:35:24 AM, IAEG [at] aol.com writes:

<< agreed, ,,   but I am curious as to what your daughter was doing last week 
Herrick, , that WAS your daughter, , right ? ? 
 >>

If you are referring to the daughter who was arrested during the RNC 
protests, that was my daughter, thank you very much.  And what she was doing was, 
along with a large number of friends, shutting down the Brooklyn Bridge.  

Bill S.
(proud papa)

Sapsis Rigging, Inc.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851 fax
267.278.4561 mobile
We stand behind, and under, our work.
                             


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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <36.621dc66a.2e74d776 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:34:30 EDT
Subject: Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts

In a message dated 11/09/04 19:04:03 GMT Daylight Time, rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com 
writes:

> >> "Top Ten Uses for a Stage Weight."
>  
>  so what would those be?  inquiring minds want to know.

I must confess that finding ten is hard. Holding up sets, ashtray, doorstop, 
and anvil come quickly to mind. Given that all of our flying is done on an ad 
hoc basis, counterweight is an additional posibility. I have used one as a dog 
anchor, and they are sometimes useful as glue anchors, when cramps cannot 
easily be used. I suppose that you could use them for calibrating scales. Holding 
the feet of legs in place is number nine. The tenth eludes me.



Frank Wood

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From: "will kent" <etcs4 [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Technobeam and Express 125 help
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:00:33 +0000
Message-ID: <BAY24-F13GUoutrRCrN00041c82 [at] hotmail.com>





>Will, did you get a profile for them or build your own?


I used the one that the board already had in it


Will Kent
www.kentlighting.cjb.net

_________________________________________________________________
Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to 
School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx


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From: "Douglas McCracken" <dbasMcCracken [at] hawaii.rr.com>
Subject: RE: borderlining on OT: t-shirts
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 13:45:07 -1000
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In-Reply-To: <list-4382103 [at] prxy.net>

FW with his infinite wisdom wrote: 



> I must confess that finding ten is hard. Holding up sets, 
> ashtray, doorstop, and anvil come quickly to mind. Given that 
> all of our flying is done on an ad hoc basis, counterweight 
> is an additional posibility. I have used one as a dog anchor, 
> and they are sometimes useful as glue anchors, when cramps 
> cannot easily be used. I suppose that you could use them for 
> calibrating scales. Holding the feet of legs in place is 
> number nine. The tenth eludes me.
> 
> 
> 
> Frank Wood
> 


I always used them as dancer traps.

Aloha,
Douglas McCracken

 

"Boy", he said. "I never thought lighting was that organized. I thought they
just put the lights up."




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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:47:36 -0400
Message-Id: <200409111947.AA564658412 [at] adamb.com>
From: "Adam Berns" <ab [at] adamb.com>
Subject: Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts

I once was actaully able to wear all free swag.  And I do mean all, from feet to head (inlcuding cell phone, IPAQ), went as free swag guy for halloween.

Anyways, I have a few Musson ones, I like those (even if they do wear out fast, but then again, I wear them almost everytime I am in the theater).  Riverview systems group has great ones, very strong and durable.  I have a few from assorted casinos, those are great as well, especially the one from the monte carlo.  I think my favorite one is from the coacroach hall of fame in Plano texas, okay not really free, but I was able to expense it.

Anyways, any free swag is good swag, and in general, if it lasts 5 days, I am pretty happy with that.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Mat Goebel <mgoebel [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Date:  Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:57:52 -0700

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---------------------------------------------------

Almost off topic, but I couldn't think of a better group of people to ask.

Which companies/organizations have the coolest shirts/SWAG?

So far I have noticed wears from the AES and USA 829. I saw one motion
picture editors guild IA shirt. I've previously donned a mackie shirt
(hey, it was free, and yes it did wear out before my other, higher
quality clothes).
-- 
Mat Goebel
Entertainment Technical Services
Paramount's Great America
Cell: 510.693.1448


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Message-ID: <000f01c4985c$47f94c30$6500a8c0 [at] yourfsyly0jtwn>
From: "Daryl Redmon" <jonathand01 [at] sbcglobal.net>
References: <list-4373714 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Grund Audio Design
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:05:57 -0700


 Which promptly blew again.  I dunno
> if I'd spec Peavey gear for everything, but any environment theat doesn't
> require 'pristine' sound, and the gear will suffer extended operator error
> induced abuse, this stuff will take the punishment.
> Chris "Chris" Babbie
> Location Sound
> MON AZ

Chris,
This sounds like your going to be a dealer for the big "P" word.

Daryl Redmon
Resounding Light 



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Message-ID: <41438901.80007 [at] gator.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:23:45 -0400
From: "Robert P. Robins" <hipplights [at] gator.net>
Subject: Re: storm
References: <list-4365695 [at] prxy.net> <list-4373977 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-4373977 [at] prxy.net>

 >Brian Aldous wrote:
Do you folks in Florida ever consider that Mother Nature may be giving 
you a hint? :)

And the hint is.........?
could it be that people should not live here?
How about California, the Midwest, the Northeast, the Southwest, Japan, 
Australia, India, China, the Northwest.......
Where is there a place on Earth that nature never shows just who is in 
charge?

Brian,
I hope you are in a place that you can live with no worry of nature 
showing the fury of a storm or tornado or earthquake or flood or volcano 
or snow or freezing temperatures or scathing heat or seas that destroy 
or.........

There is the question of how much does humankind have a bearing on all 
this, but I don't think this is the forum for that discussion.




>
>
>


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040911175327.01836ac8 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:53:27
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Remotely Firing a Pistol

>Usually the problem I have with sound effect gunshots is that they don't
>seem to come from the gun but somewhere else... usually the speakers

(Real) Sound design solution to above problem:
	Put a speaker where you want the sound to come from.

Gunshots never do sound like gunshots from a speaker.  Most speakers would
disintegrate if they tried to accurately reproduce a gunshot at realistic
levels.  .22's aside, of course.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040911180151.01836ac8 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:01:51
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Stagecraft course

>> I keep a monkey's fist around a 1/2" ball bearing on my lanyard. 
>
>    I usually just tie a string to a roll of electrical tape.

Definately much lower cool factor...
Oh, and while I have your attention, let me apologise publicly for my
inattention to typing lately.  I'm not sure what it is, but I'm sorry.
I'll try to be better.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040911180654.01836ac8 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:06:54
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Stairs

>The formal plural of hippopotamus is hippopotami, and grammar is spelt as I 
>just have.

Never fails!  Every time I do this thing I do it just that way!  ; >

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040911181225.01836ac8 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:12:25
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: borderlining on OT: t-shirts

>Which companies/organizations have the coolest shirts/SWAG?

Well, Novell gave us Leatherman Minis, The drug companies are usually
really nice to us (no, I'm talking about the leather laptop bags and such)
and Sony swag almost always just plain sucks.  American Red Cross gave me a
first aid kit today, and one of the presentors gave me a bunny nose and
ears to stick on my helmet.  Tucson's Attorney gave me a gun lock.  Cool is
in the eyes of the beholder.
I'm not sure that swag is a great yardstick to take gigs by, though...
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-ID: <26277.24.168.209.168.1094956879.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc>
In-Reply-To: <list-4373909 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-4373909 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:41:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Lycra
From: usctd [at] columbia.sc

 - Does anyone have experience working with this kind of material?  We
used it in a very similar way for a show last year.

 - Can anyone explain the difference between two-way spandex and lycra? We
went with the Rosebrand Poly stretch because we did not need an insane
amount of stretch and it was flame retardant.  We used 12' high panels
that stretched to about 16'.

 - Can it be painted without impeeding its ability to stretch, or will I
need to
stick to dyes? You can paint on it, but I would stick to using the HVLP. 
We also dyed it very succesfully.

 - Is a surger the only way to stitch panels together/finish the edges, or
is there
a simpler alternative? I don't know much about sewing voodoo, but I think
they used a regular old sewing machine to make simple pockets at the ends.

 - Does anyone know of a good Mid-West distributer for this material in
large formats?  Dont know.  Rosebrand has up to 120".

 - Is there anything that first time lycra users like myself should be
aware of?  Yeah....even if it is flame retardant, uh, don't weld near it.
 Also remember that as it stretches the hourglass effect obviously gets
more severe.

-- 
Eric Rouse
TD-University of SC, Columbia
Freelance Foyboy

> For info, archives &amp; UNSUBSCRIBE, see
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References: <list-4331268 [at] prxy.net> <list-4375910 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:52:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: LDI in October
From: usctd [at] columbia.sc

if anybody has any extra exhibit passes, please contact me off list.  it
would be greatly appreciated.  i'll buy you a beer....or two if the
conversation is good.
-- 
Eric Rouse
TD-University of SC, Columbia
Freelance Foyboy

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> Vegas. WOO HOO! It will be the closest thing I get to time off this fall.
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> <Bill S.
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> Klyph Stanford
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> "Let's go get drunk on the light once more."
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Message-ID: <03d201c4986d$7e1c2f10$0600a8c0 [at] alf>
From: "Alf Sauve" <alf [at] sauve.org>
References: <list-4365695 [at] prxy.net> <list-4373977 [at] prxy.net> <list-4382486 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: storm
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:01:36 -0400

Don't mess with Mother Nature.  To her, you are insignificant and 
bio-degradable.

Alf


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert P. Robins" <hipplights [at] gator.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 19:23 PM
Subject: Re: storm


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> >Brian Aldous wrote:
> Do you folks in Florida ever consider that Mother Nature may be giving you 
> a hint? :)
>
> And the hint is.........?
> could it be that people should not live here?
> How about California, the Midwest, the Northeast, the Southwest, Japan, 
> Australia, India, China, the Northwest.......
> Where is there a place on Earth that nature never shows just who is in 
> charge?
>
> Brian,
> I hope you are in a place that you can live with no worry of nature 
> showing the fury of a storm or tornado or earthquake or flood or volcano 
> or snow or freezing temperatures or scathing heat or seas that destroy 
> or.........
>
> There is the question of how much does humankind have a bearing on all 
> this, but I don't think this is the forum for that discussion.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
> 


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Message-ID: <000901c49877$5c4df6c0$9ce21842 [at] VAIO>
From: "Robert Bell" <buffobob [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: waterproof sealer for cardboard?
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:19:36 -0400




I'm presently  building twenty-seven gravestones out of cardboard
 and paper maiche with wooden bases. My client is supplying the 
dictated materials and wants a product that can be reused year 
after year. They will not be left out over night but need to be able 
to stand up to evening dew, maybe more. I'm hoping the list can 
suggest a sealer that would be at least fairly weatherproof and take 
tinting. I can be contacted off list at buffobob [at] yahoo.com. 
Thank you in advance for any advice and for the years of education
 and amusement.

Bob Bell
Carpenter/Rigger
I.A.T.S.E. #54
Binghamton, N.Y.

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Message-ID: <4143C7CB.A3D90DC6 [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:51:39 -0400
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Subject: Re: waterproof sealer for cardboard?
References: <list-4383424 [at] prxy.net>



Robert Bell wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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>
> I'm presently  building twenty-seven gravestones out of cardboard
>  and paper maiche with wooden bases. My client is supplying the
> dictated materials and wants a product that can be reused year
> after year. They will not be left out over night but need to be able
> to stand up to evening dew, maybe more. I'm hoping the list can
> suggest a sealer that would be at least fairly weatherproof and take
> tinting. I can be contacted off list at buffobob [at] yahoo.com.
> Thank you in advance for any advice and for the years of education
>  and amusement.
>
> Bob Bell
> Carpenter/Rigger
> I.A.T.S.E. #54
> Binghamton, N.Y.

   If you don't have to worry about fire-proofing, ordinary paffarin wax
does a dandy job. Use an expendable iron on a low heat, and keep your
CO2 fire extinguisher handy when working with hot wax.  They sell all
sorts of wax coloring supplies in the crafts stores, scents too.

    --Dale



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Message-ID: <20040912043612.87659.qmail [at] web14102.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:36:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: June Abernathy <jea00321 [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Remotely firing a pistol

So, you're touring a show, but you're a devotee of
Frank Wood's philosophy, so you don't have a stage
manager to call cues - your techs follow scripts
instead. But, you're leery of having to rely on your
sound op to take your recorded gunshot cue as a
visual, because, as you said before "The show travels
with different techs of differing skill levels", and
you don't trust them to get the cue right
consistently.

I don't understand why you are touring a show if you
can't come up with a reliable tech crew. I don't
understand why you don't have a stage manager (or if
you do, one who calls cues) if you can't come up with
a reliable tech crew. I would assume it's a money
thing  - since it's easier to find reasonably talented
actors willing to work for little or no money than it
is to find reasonably talented techs willing to work
for those wages. And, of course, it's easier to
persuade the powers that be to pay for actors that
they can see than tech crew that they can't. But since
this seems to be an educational production, I would
assume that money is not the issue. So what is?

Are you picking up techs at each venue? If you are,
why no one consistent SM calling cues? I know my
ranting is no help in the remote firing department,
but I have never been a big fan of relying on the
talent to actually trigger a cue. Which, undoubtedly
shows my bias, since I am a stage manager/tech. I keep
thinking that if you have the resources to come up
with an RF rig, you could afford someone to call a
cue, or take a cue, or fire an offstage gun, or hit an
offstage slapstick, or whatever.

But, enough of my whining. In an attempt to be
somewhat constructive, let me say that when I did
ASSASSINS, for Booth's suicide shot, we had him hold
the gun to his head, and then for the "moment", we
went to blackout, and, in the dark, he held the gun at
arm's length overhead and shot it straight up. So,
there's another option. Worked for us. We didn't have
to restore lights in our production, as we went right
into a scene shift, but you could certainly do a
restore as he crumples or whatever. It's a little
stylized, but if you make the rest of the production
support that style, it can work. FWIW.


June Abernathy
AEA Stage Manager
IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL)
FOH Electrician
The Lion King National Tour (Gazelle)


		
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Message-ID: <003401c49882$3b04d780$6401a8c0 [at] cz1lbfinkbrlun>
From: "Chad Croteau" <cpcroteau [at] kelcom.igs.net>
References: <list-4383424 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: waterproof sealer for cardboard?
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 00:37:35 -0400

Hey All...

I've had good luck sealing corrugated cardboard with a clear spray lacquer.
You'll need a few coats, but it works well.  Also comes in colours if you
want paint instead of a clear-coat.

Hope this helps,

Chad

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Bell" <buffobob [at] yahoo.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:19 PM
Subject: waterproof sealer for cardboard?


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> I'm presently  building twenty-seven gravestones out of cardboard
>  and paper maiche with wooden bases. My client is supplying the
> dictated materials and wants a product that can be reused year
> after year. They will not be left out over night but need to be able
> to stand up to evening dew, maybe more. I'm hoping the list can
> suggest a sealer that would be at least fairly weatherproof and take
> tinting. I can be contacted off list at buffobob [at] yahoo.com.
> Thank you in advance for any advice and for the years of education
>  and amusement.
>
> Bob Bell
> Carpenter/Rigger
> I.A.T.S.E. #54
> Binghamton, N.Y.
>
>



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From: <klyphs [at] earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: borderlining on OT: t-shirts
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 01:02:21 -0400
Message-ID: <HJENKLGKCMMMNGABLBPNKEAICIAA.klyphs [at] earthlink.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-4380772 [at] prxy.net>



>> "Top Ten Uses for a Stage Weight."

<so what would those be?  inquiring minds want to know.>

If I can get Tom to cough one up in Vegas, I'll let you know. ;)

Klyph



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Message-ID: <000601c4988b$9682d810$6401a8c0 [at] cz1lbfinkbrlun>
From: "Chad Croteau" <cpcroteau [at] kelcom.igs.net>
References: <list-4384041 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 01:44:34 -0400

I dunno, somehow I think if Tom coughs up a stage weight, I think you might
want to get him to a doctor before asking him to make up any top 10 lists...


>
> If I can get Tom to cough one up in Vegas, I'll let you know. ;)
>
> Klyph
>
>
>



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From: "Carson Koz Noel" <lsfxco [at] cox.net>
Subject: borderlining on OT: t-shirts
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:12:36 -0700
Message-ID: <IMENJPDHAFEDHJEJPHNFEECCDGAA.lsfxco [at] cox.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-4378677 [at] prxy.net>

I kinda liked the IA local 69 Kangaroo shirts...



Carson "Koz" Noel, III
Light and Sound FX Company - Tucson




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