Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2) with PIPE id 4411929; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:01:08 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #132 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:00:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, BODY_ENHANCEMENT2,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,URIBL_SBL autolearn=ham version=3.0.0-pre4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-pre4 (2004-08-04) on prxy.net X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4a3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #132 1. Re: Hazer Placement by "C. Andrew Dunning" 2. Re: LDI in October by "Kevin Linzey" 3. Re: Remotely firing a Pistol (explanation) by Dave Reynolds 4. Re: Weather by "Paul Guncheon" 5. Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts by Stephen Litterst 6. Re: Hazer Placement by Stephen Litterst 7. Re: waterproof sealer for cardboard? by doran [at] bard.edu 8. Re: 10 uses for stage weights by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 9. FW: hippopotamus or hippopotami by Bruce Purdy 10. Re: hippopotamus or hippopotami by "Tony Deeming" 11. Re: Hazer Placement by "Immel,Patrick" 12. Re: hippopotamus or hippopotami by "Michael Denison" 13. Re: hippopotamus or hippopotami by "Tony Deeming" 14. Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts by "Nigel Worsley" 15. Re: hippopotamus or hippopotami by "Alf Sauve" 16. Re: Hazer Placement by "Kacey Fisher" 17. Re: storm by CB 18. Re: Remotely firing a pistol by CB 19. Re: Hazer Placement by "Andrew Vance" 20. Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts by CB 21. Re: ETC Emphasis and moving lights? by CB 22. Re: Remotely firing a pistol by Charlie Richmond 23. Re: Hazer Placement by Stephen Litterst 24. Re: Hazer Placement by "Immel,Patrick" 25. Re: Now WAY OT:Helium balloons by Greg Bierly 26. Re: storm by IAEG [at] aol.com 27. Re: Remotely firing a pistol by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 28. Re: Now WAY OT:Helium balloons by "Joe Meils" 29. D192 info by Ron Cargile 30. archaic GAM equipment by Phil Blackwood 31. Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts by Phil Blackwood 32. Re: Remotely Firing a Pistol by Sunil Rajan 33. Re: Grund Audio Design by Sunil Rajan 34. Re: Hazer Placement by "Kevin Linzey" 35. Re: Vectorworks question by "Kevin Linzey" 36. Cable Weights by "Daniel Hoffman" 37. 11th use of a stageweight? by David Carrico 38. Re: 11th use of a stageweight? by "Nicholas Kuhl" 39. Sound on tour by Sunil Rajan 40. Re: moving light (Auto Yoke) by Sunil Rajan *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C. Andrew Dunning" Subject: RE: Hazer Placement Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:41:47 -0500 Organization: Landru Design In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Patrick - A fan is a must. One thing there, though: It is MUCH better to use the fan in a way that has it pushing the haze, rather than sucking the haze through it. A lot less mess. Regards - C. Andrew Dunning Landru Design - Nashville, TN - cad [at] landrudesign.com www.landrudesign.com >-----Original Message----- >From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf >Of Immel,Patrick >Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 3:04 PM >To: Stagecraft >Subject: Hazer Placement > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > >--------------------------------------------------- > >I have a hazer that I would like to use for an upcoming show. >I have used it in the past with less than desireable results. >What comes out is closer to fog than haze. I've tried >intensity adjustments with no luck. Would it be better to >have the hazer high or low? Does anybody use a fan to direct the haze? > >Any suggestions would be appreciated! > >Pat Immel >Northwest Missouri State University > ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Linzey" Cc: usctd [at] columbia.sc Subject: RE: LDI in October Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:48:00 -0400 Message-ID: <003301c4998f$e6e30ff0$3c00a8c0 [at] KLinzeypc> In-Reply-To: Eric, I'll hold some passes for you, but I will also extend the offer to = everyone else on the list. If anyone would like exhibit hall passes for LDI 2004 email me your = mailing address and I will send them out to you. If you don't want to wait for = the mail I can give you the link and the special code that will let you = register online for free passes. See you at LDI Booth #821. ---------------------------- Kevin Linzey Nemetschek North America Product Manager=20 VectorWorks SpotLight ----------------------------- =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf=20 > Of usctd [at] columbia.sc > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 10:53 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: LDI in October >=20 >=20 > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > if anybody has any extra exhibit passes, please contact me=20 > off list. it would be greatly appreciated. i'll buy you a=20 > beer....or two if the conversation is good. > --=20 > Eric Rouse > TD-University of SC, Columbia > Freelance Foyboy >=20 > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Vegas. WOO HOO! It will be the closest thing I get to time off this=20 > > fall. > > > > See you there! > > > > > > - > > > > > > > Klyph Stanford > > 336.575.7235 > > klyphs [at] earthlink.net > > > > "Let's go get drunk on the light once more." > > Georges Seurat > > >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 07:56:11 -0500 From: Dave Reynolds Subject: Re: Remotely firing a Pistol (explanation) Message-id: <2147483647.1095062171 [at] [141.140.13.64]> Hi again folks, >Thanks so much for all the advice. I have to say that this show is >intense, it is toured all over the upper Midwest and does have its >challenges. I was looking for an easy solution to the shootings. Also, >there is no Stage Manager to call cues for the show. We go off the script. >It does get a little difficult to time the "gunshots"... I must clarify the gunshots. One actor "kills" at least 3 other actors before he kills himself. Timing the "kill" shots is much more difficult to sync than the final suicide shot. Dave Reynolds A man finds joy in giving an apt reply - and how good is a timely word! --Proverbs 15:23, New International Version A man finds joy in giving an apt reply - and how good is a timely word! --Proverbs 15:23, New International Version Dave Reynolds Media Services Macalester College 1600 Grand Ave. St. Paul, MN 55105 voice: (651) 696-6378 fax: (651) 696-6304 reynolds [at] macalester.edu DV Cassie with lots of fonts and effects, KRON and Final Cut Pro. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001701c499a0$0e78ee80$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re:Weather Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 04:43:36 -1000 <> Yahhh... Here we put on long pants and jackets when the temperature plummets all the way down to around 60. Aloha, Paul "It's the street after the third street on the right" directed Tom, forthrightly. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:55:41 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts Message-id: <4145B4ED.24AA5AB1 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Bsapsis [at] aol.com wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > And, if I may pat myself on the back just this once, the very first shirts I > came out with, back in '85-86 with the Chinese writing on the back that said > "Heads!" was pretty cool too. I liked the front of those even better than the > back. To save Bill from breaking his arm, I'll chime in that those are pretty good shirts. Quite a conversation piece (especially since I didn't trust Bill's explanation when I got the shirt and spent some time trying to get it translated.) Pretty good quality, too. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:06:53 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Hazer Placement Message-id: <4145B78D.49F18C5E [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: "Immel,Patrick" wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I have a hazer that I would like to use for an upcoming show. I have used > it in the past with less than desireable results. What comes out is closer > to fog than haze. I've tried intensity adjustments with no luck. Would it > be better to have the hazer high or low? Does anybody use a fan to direct > the haze? I notice from the thread you're using the NeutronXS. My experience is that this hazer has to be at stage level. We put one on the midrail, and the haze just wouldn't sink down to stage level. Our best luck with the Neutrons has been putting them upstage behind the Cyc. That gives the haze some time to disperse before getting into view. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1095089367.4145bcd7bb832 [at] webmail> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:29:27 -0400 From: doran [at] bard.edu Subject: Re: waterproof sealer for cardboard? References: In-Reply-To: Bob, You might try Dry Lock. It's a paint thats used to seal basements and foundations against the encroachment of water. Come in water-based or oil-based, white or colors, gallons, quarts, and five-gallons. I can get it here at the local Ace Hardware store, the Home Depot, or Lowe's. It costs about the same as regular paints, and applies the same way. It even has a slightly grainy texture, and rolls out pretty thick. Our Production Manager, Jeff Drucker, suggested we use it to hold water in a wood pool lined with muslin, and it worked pretty well for the techs and run. Good Luck, Andy Champ-Doran Technical Director Bard College Departments of Dance and Theater Annandale-on-Hudson, NY Quoting Robert Bell : > I'm hoping the list can > suggest a sealer that would be at least fairly weatherproof and take > tinting. > Bob Bell > Carpenter/Rigger > I.A.T.S.E. #54 > Binghamton, N.Y. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: 10 uses for stage weights Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:47:43 -0400 One of my favorite theatrical axioms is: "Every door sprouts its' own stage weight." Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:05:54 -0400 Subject: FW: hippopotamus or hippopotami From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: >> The formal plural of hippopotamus is hippopotami>> > Maybe so but hippopotamuses is in common use and this list is many things > but not formal. > hippopotamuses is in *common* use ??? How often have you heard people talk about more than one hippopotamus ? -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <024e01c499ac$b66c1de0$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: hippopotamus or hippopotami Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:14:13 +0100 To be honest, when talking of such things as the hippo, I'd say most people I know would go with hippopotami, not 'muses. I certainly would myself, but then I also had a 2-year Latin education at school! Mind you, most would probably say 'hippo's' anyway!! Ynot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Purdy" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 5:05 PM Subject: FW: hippopotamus or hippopotami > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >> The formal plural of hippopotamus is hippopotami>> > > > Maybe so but hippopotamuses is in common use and this list is many things > > but not formal. > > > hippopotamuses is in *common* use ??? > How often have you heard people talk about more than one hippopotamus ? > > -- > Bruce Purdy > Technical Director > Smith Opera House > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE390213D6816 [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu> From: "Immel,Patrick" Subject: RE: Hazer Placement Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:18:00 -0500 Putting the hazer upstage with a fan seems to be the consensus and is what I am going to try!! Thanks to all! Pat Immel -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Litterst [mailto:slitterst [at] ithaca.edu] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:07 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Hazer Placement For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- "Immel,Patrick" wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I have a hazer that I would like to use for an upcoming show. I have used > it in the past with less than desireable results. What comes out is closer > to fog than haze. I've tried intensity adjustments with no luck. Would it > be better to have the hazer high or low? Does anybody use a fan to direct > the haze? I notice from the thread you're using the NeutronXS. My experience is that this hazer has to be at stage level. We put one on the midrail, and the haze just wouldn't sink down to stage level. Our best luck with the Neutrons has been putting them upstage behind the Cyc. That gives the haze some time to disperse before getting into view. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <414589F8.22940.373445B1 [at] localhost> From: "Michael Denison" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:52:24 -0500 Subject: Re: hippopotamus or hippopotami In-Reply-To: Ernie Kovaks used to play a poet named Percy Dovetonsils on his old black and white TV comedy show. From that: "The hippopotamus is an animal that lives down in the zoo. Of course, they're hippopotami, if there's more than one or two. Except when the keeper gets mad at them, And swears at them and cusses, Then they're just a dirty pair of hippopotamusses." Michael A. Denison Technical Director Cottey College 1000 West Austin Nevada, MO 64772 (417) 667-8181 x 2265 FAX: (417) 667-8103 mdenison [at] cottey.edu www.cottey.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <026e01c499b3$53b4f3a0$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: hippopotamus or hippopotami Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:01:35 +0100 From: "Michael Denison" > > Ernie Kovaks used to play a poet named Percy Dovetonsils on his > old black and white TV comedy show. From that: > > "The hippopotamus is an animal that lives down in the zoo. > Of course, they're hippopotami, if there's more than one or two. > Except when the keeper gets mad at them, > And swears at them and cusses, > Then they're just a dirty pair of hippopotamusses." > Michael A. Denison And, of course, there's good ol' Flanders & Swann....... A bold hippopotamus was standing one day On the banks of the cool Shalimar. He gazed at the bottom as it peacefully lay By the light of the evening star. Away on the hilltop sat combing her hair, His fair hippopotamine maid. The hippopotamus was no ignoramus And sang her this sweet serenade. CHORUS Mud, mud, glorious mud! Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood. So follow me, follow, down to the hollow, And there let us wallow in glorious mud. The fair hippopotamus he aimed to entice From her seat on the hilltop above, As she hadn't got a Ma to give her advice Came tiptoeing down to her love. Like thunder the forest re-echoed the sound Of the song that they sang as they met. His inamorata adjusted her garter And lifted her voice in duet. (Chorus) Now more hippopotami began to convene On the banks of that river so wide. I wonder now what am I to say of the scene That ensued by the Shalimar side. They dived all at once with an ear-splitting splosh, Then rose to the surface again, A regular army of hippopotami All singing this haunting refrain. (Chorus) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00fb01c499b5$78df0ab0$0c00a8c0 [at] Nigellaptop> From: "Nigel Worsley" References: Subject: Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:16:56 +0100 FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 11/09/04 19:04:03 GMT Daylight Time, rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com > writes: > >>>> "Top Ten Uses for a Stage Weight." >> >> so what would those be? inquiring minds want to know. > > I must confess that finding ten is hard. Holding up sets, ashtray, doorstop, > and anvil come quickly to mind. Given that all of our flying is done on an ad > hoc basis, counterweight is an additional posibility. I have used one as a dog > anchor, and they are sometimes useful as glue anchors, when cramps cannot > easily be used. I suppose that you could use them for calibrating scales. Holding > the feet of legs in place is number nine. The tenth eludes me. Tying helium ballons to before giving them out to the kiddies on open day. I don't know how many are needed to lift one up, but it must be well into the hundreds! Nigel Worsley ------------------------------ Message-ID: <080f01c499b5$dfa3a2b0$0600a8c0 [at] alf> From: "Alf Sauve" References: Subject: Re: hippopotamus or hippopotami Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:18:31 -0400 Wow, Ernie must have made a real impression on you! Not only do you remember the old shows, but you can quote some of the poems as well! Can you do Henry Gibson and George Goble as well? How about a verse of "Alligator is your friend"? Alf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Denison" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 12:52 PM Subject: Re: hippopotamus or hippopotami > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Ernie Kovaks used to play a poet named Percy Dovetonsils on his > old black and white TV comedy show. From that: > > "The hippopotamus is an animal that lives down in the zoo. > Of course, they're hippopotami, if there's more than one or two. > Except when the keeper gets mad at them, > And swears at them and cusses, > Then they're just a dirty pair of hippopotamusses." > > > > > Michael A. Denison > Technical Director > Cottey College > 1000 West Austin > Nevada, MO 64772 > > (417) 667-8181 x 2265 > FAX: (417) 667-8103 > mdenison [at] cottey.edu > www.cottey.edu > > ------------------------------ From: "Kacey Fisher" Subject: RE: Hazer Placement Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:25:08 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Patrick, We've been very happy with our Neutron XS and haven't had issues of it producing fog instead of haze. Are you using the correct fluid because there is specific Neutron fluid in addition to general haze fluid. Just a thought. ~Kacey Fisher Fisher Theatrical ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040913114817.01842390 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:48:17 From: CB Subject: Re: storm >With a kerosene heater >and a couple of sweaters I'm fine. I'd rather be here! This sounds like an offer of refuge for those fleeing Ivan. Party at Bruce's! (BTW, don't let your eagle beak write the check...) Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040913115519.01842390 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:55:19 From: CB Subject: Re: Remotely firing a pistol > Each time the gun shot a flame (which of >course repeated quickly just like the machine gun it was), an RF trigger fired >which then fired the sound effect which was then relayed back via radio link to >a receiver on the jeep and the sound of the shot was played over a loudspeaker >right next to the machine gun on the jeep plus the sounds of ricocheting >bullets played around the multiple loudspeakers surrounding the audience. A couple of points, Charlie. 1. You say the sound FX were triggered by RF, but fail to tell us what method of playback. I'm hoping it wasn't CD? 2. If you had to make a choice of all this cool gear, or an SM and the same sound-op for every show along the tour, how would you choose? Frank said: >There just isn't time for the SM to see that the trigger has ben pulled, > call the cue, and have the sound OP react IIRC, earlier I said something along the lines of 'the clued in SM will have lights and sound take these as sight cues (or other agreed upon cues) on thier own to shorten reaction times'. It does work, and if money is an issue, is far cheaper than RF kit. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <0cfd01c499c1$33cb5d00$0500000a [at] anneb> From: "Andrew Vance" References:

Subject: Re: Hazer Placement Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:40:53 -0500 > I notice from the thread you're using the NeutronXS. My experience is > that this hazer has to be at stage level. We put one on the midrail, > and the haze just wouldn't sink down to stage level. =20 At a place of previous employ, we used to put Neutrons on the grid = [+28'-0"] or in the overhead catwalks [+25'-0"] and they filled the = spaces up beautifully without the need for fans to facilitate movement. = Of course, in my current theatre my Neutrons have no choice but to live = on stage level in the wings with fans blowing. Fills the space up = beautifully, though. > Our best luck with the Neutrons has been putting them upstage behind > the Cyc. That gives the haze some time to disperse before getting > into view. I will have to try this on the next hazer show. How well does this = work? My cyc is almost against the back wall of the theatre, and I can = just see the haze building up behind the cyc and not moving DS of it or = lingering in the wings. Are you using fans to facilitate movement? -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer/Supervisor Omaha Theatre Company/Omaha Theatre Ballet ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040913115758.01842390 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:57:58 From: CB Subject: Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts >I never quite understood the bungee cord lanyard from Wenger. It's so as to remind you that Wenger kit is inherently dangerous when you haven't been around any for a while. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040913120927.01842390 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:09:27 From: CB Subject: Re: ETC Emphasis and moving lights? >Look for a light that has 1 gobo wheel and 1 color wheel and uses a separate >channel of DMX for gobo rotation. Roboscan 812's fit this description, are available REAL cheap, and make a great learnign instrument. I just learned my first moving light programming with a pair of these and a coupla Martin consoles and the manual. They are moving mirrors, and they aren't, however, that smooth or pretty in their moves. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:59:33 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Remotely firing a pistol In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, CB wrote: > 1. You say the sound FX were triggered by RF, but fail to tell us what > method of playback. I'm hoping it wasn't CD? Of course not ;-) In 1989 it was solid-state playback triggered by our Amiga-based control system called Command/Cue. Now it is hard disk based playback, as far as I know... > 2. If you had to make a choice of all this cool gear, or an SM and the same > sound-op for every show along the tour, how would you choose? RF triggering is the only way to achieve the timing required. Keep in mind that this is a _machine_ gun firing ;-) Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:00:08 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Hazer Placement Message-id: <4145EE38.E04E2B9C [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References:

Andrew Vance wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > Our best luck with the Neutrons has been putting them upstage behind > > the Cyc. That gives the haze some time to disperse before getting > > into view. > > I will have to try this on the next hazer show. How well does this work? My cyc is almost against the back wall of the theatre, and I can just see the haze building up behind the cyc and not moving DS of it or lingering in the wings. Are you using fans to facilitate movement? For that show, our cyc was ten or so feet DS of the back wall. The natural air flow of the stage brought the haze around to the stage area quite nicely. Until we put an audience in the space. I can't tell you how much I hate dealing with atmospheric effects because you can spend the entire tech/dress process making it beautiful but everything changes opening night. For the run of the show we did add some fans, but I didn't notice that they had a consistent effect. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE390213D6837 [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu> From: "Immel,Patrick" Subject: RE: Hazer Placement Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:35:54 -0500 Kacey, Good question, but I made dang sure when I ordered it that I ordered hazer fluid for that machine...then confirmed it when it arrived! Pat Immel -----Original Message----- From: Kacey Fisher [mailto:Kacey [at] FisherTheatrical.com] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:25 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Hazer Placement For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Patrick, We've been very happy with our Neutron XS and haven't had issues of it producing fog instead of haze. Are you using the correct fluid because there is specific Neutron fluid in addition to general haze fluid. Just a thought. ~Kacey Fisher Fisher Theatrical ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <7396AAA8-05C5-11D9-AFB8-000D936BFA94 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re:Now WAY OT:Helium balloons Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:42:39 -0500 > > Tying helium ballons to before giving them out to the kiddies on open > day. I don't > know how many are needed to lift one up, but it must be well into the > hundreds! I thought we just covered that but it must have been somewhere else. do a google for {"how many" "helium balloon" lift person} Lots of hits, I honestly forget what the answer was but it was high. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1d0.2aeed871.2e77568b [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:01:15 EDT Subject: Re: storm In a message dated 9/13/04 2:34:24 PM, psyd [at] cox.net writes: << >With a kerosene heater >and a couple of sweaters I'm fine. I'd rather be here! This sounds like an offer of refuge for those fleeing Ivan. Party at Bruce's! (BTW, don't let your eagle beak write the check...) Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ >> Kerosene heaters are illegal most places I know, , ( Florida for one ) very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <80.15efc741.2e777179 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:56:09 EDT Subject: Re: Remotely firing a pistol In a message dated 13/09/04 19:41:55 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > IIRC, earlier I said something along the lines of 'the clued in SM will > have lights and sound take these as sight cues (or other agreed upon cues) > on thier own to shorten reaction times'. It does work, and if money is an > issue, is far cheaper than RF kit. I've said this many times, and agree with you. The problem that defeats me is how to get a visual cue for a shot. That is why I suggested the RF method. If you build it yourself, it's neither expensive nor difficult. For a brief pulse transmission, you don't have to take FCC rules very seriously. The receiver is even easier. I remember building a radio receiver, working on 200KHz, with a coil, a variable capacitor, and a diode, in a bird's nest plugged into the microphone input of a tape recorder. It gave me the morning radio for three years. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002501c499e0$3ecf17e0$4aecbed0 [at] hppav> From: "Joe Meils" References:

Subject: Re: Now WAY OT:Helium balloons Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:23:06 -0500 100 cu ft of helium will lift about 2.5 pounds. Assuming you have an envelope that will hold a full cubic foot of gas, you would need about 10,000 to lift a person, their lawn chair, a six pack of beer (for ballast) the pellet gun (for altitude control) and the weight of the balloons themselves, and a net capable of enclosing them all. Joe Meils UCA Theatre Conway, AR PS. I remember working this all out after some guy in Denver actually took a flight like this in the early '80's. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Bierly" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Now WAY OT:Helium balloons > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Tying helium ballons to before giving them out to the kiddies on open > > day. I don't > > know how many are needed to lift one up, but it must be well into the > > hundreds! > > I thought we just covered that but it must have been somewhere else. > do a google for {"how many" "helium balloon" lift person} Lots of > hits, I honestly forget what the answer was but it was high. > > > Greg Bierly > Technical Director > Hempfield HS > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20040913153338.01b6d5f8 [at] pop.uci.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:35:10 -0700 From: Ron Cargile Subject: D192 info Hi All, Thanks for the replies to my request. I was able to find the information I needed. Thanks to Steve Short and John Palmer! Much appreciated. ....Ron ---- Ron Cargile ME, Univ of CA, Irvine ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040913235138.47931.qmail [at] web52209.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:51:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Blackwood Subject: archaic GAM equipment Hello, list The Ring Theater is currently in possession of a few old GAM lightwiz motorized yokes. I have no technical data or manuals on these. Does anyone have a source for the specs on these units? Does anyone have a need for these units?? We sorta *inherited* them, I think from a cruise ship, along with several 1K watt ERS spots of an unknown make (they are most likely of european manufacture, I'm told). It's all taking up too much space in a warehouse and the resident LD and I have agreed to try to get rid of them. All are up for grabs, and dirt cheap, too. Contact me off-list for more information on acquiring these fine pieces. Miami area. ===== Phil Blackwood Technical Director University of Miami (305)284-4474 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040913234215.36874.qmail [at] web52207.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:42:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Blackwood Subject: Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts In-Reply-To: Long ago in my college years I worked with an electrician who regularly wore a t-shirt that had the tiniest print on the left breast, and when you got the necessary 10 inches away to read it it said, "nosy little f***er, aren't you?" Priceless. ===== Phil Blackwood Technical Director University of Miami (305)284-4474 _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <119DCD88-05EA-11D9-82F7-000A95BD64AC [at] earthlink.net> From: Sunil Rajan Subject: Re: Remotely Firing a Pistol Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:04:46 -0400 On The Scarlet Pimpernel v2.0 (at the Neil Simon)Broadway, after much wrangling with a remote RF closure to trigger the guillotine, it was just decided to go with the operater cueing the blade sound effect as the handle was pulled. Man, I had a few rehearsals before I went "live" with that one! Every once in a while it would be a bit off, but hey, the audience is only seeing it once (except for the Pimpernel groupies), so it wasn't like it happened all the time. Cost: Free (well, IA contract for a mixer), hassle: minimal with rehearsal. Cheers, Sunil Rajan Freelance Audio Mercenary ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Sunil Rajan Subject: Re: Grund Audio Design Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:25:08 -0400 On Sep 9, 2004, at 6:01 AM, Charlie Richmond wrote: > The difference between the response on this list and the theatre-sound > list is > very telling. It is very interesting Charlie! I'm fortunate to be on both! I recently did a gig with one of the first regional sound companies I ever worked with. Guys who taught me a LOT, and who I looked up to, who now treat ME as a peer. That being said, they were using some EV Plasma P2 powered subs on one of the stages. They sounded GREAT! Who knew that getting other opinions from those OTHER than just theatre folks or just rock and roll folks is a good thing?! Cheers, Sunil Rajan Freelance Audio Mercenary ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Linzey" Subject: RE: Hazer Placement Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:55:50 -0400 Message-ID: <002001c499fd$f5ff6e70$3c00a8c0 [at] KLinzeypc> In-Reply-To: Patrick, Make sure you check the fluid again and possibly order another fresh = gallon to test the machine and make sure the bottle is still sealed when it arrives. On the Neutron XS check the cleaning cycle. I think it cleans itself = every 10 minutes. Does it produce the excess liquid right before or right = after the cleaning cycle? Does it spit fluid only after it has been running = for a while? Make sure you turn the power on for a few minutes before you haze and = let it run for a few minutes after you stop hazing. Also test it on good = power, not power from a dimmer, if you haven't yet. Once you have checked all this and you are still having problems, call = your dealer or LeMaitre. I think there are some "Factory Only" adjustments = that you can make. Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf=20 > Of Immel,Patrick > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:36 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Hazer Placement >=20 >=20 > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Kacey, >=20 > Good question, but I made dang sure when I ordered it that I=20 > ordered hazer fluid for that machine...then confirmed it when=20 > it arrived! >=20 > Pat Immel >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Kacey Fisher [mailto:Kacey [at] FisherTheatrical.com]=20 > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:25 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Hazer Placement >=20 > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > >=20 > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Patrick, >=20 > We've been very happy with our Neutron XS and haven't had=20 > issues of it producing fog instead of haze. Are you using=20 > the correct fluid because there is specific Neutron fluid in=20 > addition to general haze fluid. >=20 > Just a thought. >=20 > ~Kacey Fisher > Fisher Theatrical >=20 ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Linzey" Subject: RE: Vectorworks question Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:05:07 -0400 Message-ID: <002201c499ff$41d736b0$3c00a8c0 [at] KLinzeypc> In-Reply-To: Paul, The problem sounds familiar, but I don't know what (if any) the solution = is. I will see what I can find out in the morning. Kevin ---------------------------- Kevin Linzey Nemetschek North America Integrated Products Engineer ----------------------------- =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf=20 > Of Paul Schreiner > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 5:40 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Vectorworks question >=20 >=20 > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > > I know that this might be really basic, and I don't mean to > > insult, but: > >=20 > > Is it possible that the Palettes are opening up outside of > > your monitors viewing area, or under other windows? Palettes=20 > > can be set anywhere, even off workspace if your settings and=20 > > monitor don't work hand in hand. >=20 > No insult taken. It's been one of those weeks. I'd thought=20 > of this as an option, though. >=20 > I've closed all the open documents so that the only things=20 > appearing on the screen are the palettes below the separator=20 > bar that I CAN access. There's no sign of other ones. What=20 > gets me about it (and makes me think they're not just hidden)=20 > is that the check mark that shows up on subsequent clickings=20 > of the Palettes menu--the one that indicates the palette in=20 > question is active, and can be unchecked to hide it--is still=20 > not there. Open Palette menu, click (the currently=20 > unchecked) Walls, menu disappears and I expect Walls to show=20 > up. It doesn't. Open Palette menu again, Walls still=20 > unchecked. But that combination works for other palettes,=20 > just not these. >=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000601c49a06$52b484e0$b1f00281 [at] danhoff> From: "Daniel Hoffman" References: Subject: Cable Weights Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:44:56 -0400 Long long ago, somone posted a list of the per-foot weight of commonly-used lighting cables, i.e. 12/3, Socapex, feeder, etc. Thinking, "This might be useful some day," I printed it out and now that it actually would be useful, it's nowhere to be found. Has anyone got it, or a link to a similar such list, handy? Thanks, __ Daniel Hoffman (danhoff [at] umd.edu) "He who gives up freedom for security deserves neither. --Franklin" ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040914033553.71289.qmail [at] web14605.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:35:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David Carrico Subject: 11th use of a stageweight? In-Reply-To: Maybe I am stating the obvious, but isn't the one use of stage that Frank forgot was hammer? "Every tool is a hammer!" Right!?? Dave Carrico New Jersey _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: 11th use of a stageweight? References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:50:09 -0400 From: "Nicholas Kuhl" In-Reply-To: There's also the attention getter, put one stageweight on the ground, throw a second one down hard on top of it. Never seen a cast shut up and pay attention faster. Just make sure you have hearing protection. Nick Kuhl On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:35:52 -0700 (PDT), David Carrico wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Maybe I am stating the obvious, but isn't the one use > of stage that Frank forgot was hammer? "Every tool is > a hammer!" Right!?? > > Dave Carrico > New Jersey > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: From: Sunil Rajan Subject: Sound on tour Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:02:13 -0400 Cc: THEATRE-SOUND [at] LISTSERV.AOL.COM (Discussion list for people working in sound for live theatre.) Hello all! I've gotten 2 calls this week needing a sound engineer for 2 separate tours that are out NOW. One is a great "beginner" tour, with good gear and a reputable designer, the other is a fairly large show with complicated mixing and big sound package. I believe both are modified Pink Contracts, with the latter having a decent schedule and pay. The other is decent pay, but bus and truck one nighters with some weekend sits. Contact me offlist if you or anyone you know might be interested! Cheers, Sunil Rajan Freelance Audio Mercenary ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Sunil Rajan Subject: Re: moving light (Auto Yoke) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:51:33 -0400 On Sep 4, 2004, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote: > From: Shawn Palmer > Subject: Re: moving light (Auto Yoke) > > Agreed. And it is still that expensive. I like City Theatrical's > stuff, but man are they pricey. I know you get what you pay for, but > you can get a small followspot for less than the Source 4 spot > accessories, you can get a real moving light for less than the AutoYoke > and accessories, I did a show last year and it was the first time I saw AutoYokes being used. Man are they beautiful, color temp is great! Just a good quality LOOK more than anything. Cheers, Sunil Rajan Freelance Audio Mercenary who used to do LX... ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #132 *****************************