Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2) with PIPE id 4430016; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 03:03:16 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #133 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 03:03:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, BODY_ENHANCEMENT2,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=ham version=3.0.0-pre4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-pre4 (2004-08-04) on prxy.net X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4a3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #133 1. Inexpensive Mini-Transmitter by murr rhame 2. Re: storm by Bruce Purdy 3. Re: Hazer Placement by Bruce Purdy 4. Re: 11th use of a stageweight? by "Warren Stiles" 5. Re: Hippos et al. by "Paul Guncheon" 6. TRUSS by usctd [at] columbia.sc 7. Re: TRUSS by Greg Persinger 8. Re: TRUSS by Greg Bierly 9. Re: LDI in October by "Kevin Linzey" 10. Dimming Fluorescent Fixtures by Michael Wade 11. Re: Dimming Fluorescent Fixtures by "Harold Hallikainen" 12. Re: Remotely firing a pistol by CB 13. Re: Remotely firing a pistol by CB 14. Re: Remotely firing a pistol by Charlie Richmond 15. Re: storm by IAEG [at] aol.com 16. Kerosene Heaters was storm by Greg Persinger 17. Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm by IAEG [at] aol.com 18. Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm by Greg Persinger 19. Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm by Boyd Ostroff 20. Re: Dimming Fluorescent Fixtures by Patrick McCreary 21. Re: 11th use of a stageweight? by "Alf Sauve" 22. Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm by Dale Farmer 23. Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm by IAEG [at] aol.com 24. Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm by Boyd Ostroff 25. Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts by "Kevin R. Lowther" 26. Re: Auto Yokes by June Abernathy 27. Re: Auto Yokes by "Matthew Breton" 28. Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm by "Jon Ares" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:31:24 -0400 (EDT) From: murr rhame Subject: Inexpensive Mini-Transmitter Message-ID: If you go the radio controlled route for the gunshots, consider using the transmitter and receiver from a wireless doorbell... They're only $10US bucks a set at Wal Mart. Pretty sure they're even digitally encoded to prevent false triggering. These units have plenty enough range to get from onstage to the wings in any theatre. The transmitter would probably make it from the stage to the booth in most houses. You'd have to remove the "bell", which is a speaker. Add a simple transistor booster circuit to drive a relay. Then use that relay to trigger the sound system. I can probably with some circuit resources if this idea appeals to you... The whole rig should cost less than $20US if you're handy with a soldering iron. - murr - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:52:38 -0400 Subject: Re: storm From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Kerosene heaters are illegal most places I know, , ( Florida for one ) I believe they are for commercial / "Open to the public" places, but not for home use. In an extended power outage the theatre is dark anyway of course, so I hole up at home with my Kerosun. At least that's how it is here - you wouldn't need them in Florida like we do! :-) Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:20:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Hazer Placement From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > The natural air flow of the stage brought the haze around to the stage > area quite nicely. > > Until we put an audience in the space. I can't tell you how much I > hate dealing with atmospheric effects because you can spend the entire > tech/dress process making it beautiful but everything changes opening > night. This Summer we had a fog machine under a raised raked stage for a production of "Man of La Mancha". The fog was supposed to billow up around the edges of the platform. (The director's vision.) One night ALL the fog rushed out into the house and enveloped the audience. The next night ALL the fog was sucked down the trap and turned the dressing rooms into a gas chamber. the following evening it all came up behind the set and went straight up into the fly space. I tell people that the air currents in this place are unpredictable and make fog a challenge, but they never believe me and try it anyway - always with similar results. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ From: "Warren Stiles" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:16:43 -0500 Subject: Re: 11th use of a stageweight? Message-Id: <20040914141643.E9F5D1CE303 [at] ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>

Every tool is a hammer EXCEPT a chisel. That's a screwdriver.

G. Warren

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> of stage that Frank forgot was hammer? "Every tool is
> a hammer!" Right!??
>
> Dave Carrico
> New Jersey

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------------------------------ Message-ID: <003601c49a68$0d1e1c90$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Hippos et al. Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 04:35:14 -1000 hippopotamuses is in *common* use ??? > How often have you heard people talk about more than one hippopotamus ? Not often I must admit... apparently doing so brings out the poet in people. However, "hippopotamuses" caught 13,900 hits on Google while "hippopotami" garnered 11,000. <> How do you keep your kerosene warm then? Laters, Paul "I feel like little Jack Horner" said Tom, with aplomb. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2357.129.252.241.105.1095175624.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:27:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: TRUSS From: usctd [at] columbia.sc Hi all, Just putting out feelers. I would like to get a stick of 12" box truss (or similar) for my students to use for my rigging class. I have everything else needed to set up a rig. Any ideas on used possibilities? I know there are potential liability issues there. Are there reputable dealers that discount used and inspected pieces? I would rather not spend more than a couple hundred bucks. Any ideas? -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:43:52 -0500 Subject: Re: TRUSS From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Eric, Buy a 10' stick of Applied Electronics 12" box truss. A bit lighter duty than Thomas, Tomcat, etc. but ought to be able to get it for less than $250 new. Hope that helps. Greg Persinger Vivid Illumination Greg [at] Vividillumination.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <16B3F0BD-0668-11D9-AFB8-000D936BFA94 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: TRUSS Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:06:51 -0500 Lightbroker.com usually has truss for sale. I haven't purchased from them so I don't know about them as a company. ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Linzey" Subject: RE: LDI in October Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:49:53 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c49a72$7a3c54e0$3c00a8c0 [at] KLinzeypc> In-Reply-To: If anyone requested passes between midnight and 10:30am EST today please send me another message. Our email server was acting up. Thanks, Kevin ---------------------------- Kevin Linzey Nemetschek North America Product Manager VectorWorks SpotLight ----------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf > Of Kevin Linzey > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 8:48 AM > To: Stagecraft > Cc: usctd [at] columbia.sc > Subject: Re: LDI in October > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Eric, > > I'll hold some passes for you, but I will also extend the > offer to everyone else on the list. > > If anyone would like exhibit hall passes for LDI 2004 email > me your mailing address and I will send them out to you. If > you don't want to wait for the mail I can give you the link > and the special code that will let you register online for > free passes. > > See you at LDI Booth #821. > > ---------------------------- > Kevin Linzey > Nemetschek North America > Product Manager > VectorWorks SpotLight > ----------------------------- > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf > > Of usctd [at] columbia.sc > > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 10:53 PM > > To: Stagecraft > > Subject: Re: LDI in October > > > > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > if anybody has any extra exhibit passes, please contact me > > off list. it would be greatly appreciated. i'll buy you a > > beer....or two if the conversation is good. > > -- > > Eric Rouse > > TD-University of SC, Columbia > > Freelance Foyboy > > > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Vegas. WOO HOO! It will be the closest thing I get to > time off this > > > fall. > > > > > > See you there! > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > Klyph Stanford > > > 336.575.7235 > > > klyphs [at] earthlink.net > > > > > > "Let's go get drunk on the light once more." > > > Georges Seurat > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:11:53 -0400 From: Michael Wade Subject: Dimming Fluorescent Fixtures In-reply-to: Message-id: <6.1.2.0.0.20040914140708.01d889a0 [at] mail.focusnote.com> References: Hello all. I know this topic has come up in the past and I am having some trouble searching the archives. I am looking for dimmable ballasts to use in a theatre and I need some assistance in choosing the correct ballast. Feel free to write back to me directly. Thanks for the help. Mike Wade mike [at] focusnote.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <23776.207.177.227.29.1095187184.squirrel [at] kauko.hallikainen.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Dimming Fluorescent Fixtures From: "Harold Hallikainen" I believe there are three types of dimmable fluorescent ballasts. In my opinion, the ones that work best are those that accept a 0-10VDC control signal. A standard DMX to 0-10VDC decoder can normally drive these (though the decoder needs to be able to pull down the control line since ballasts normally have an internal pull-up). In addition, 0-10VDC ballasts get dim when hit with a 0VDC control signal, but they do not go out. Dove Systems (http://www.dovesystems.com) makes a single channel DMX decoder to drive fluorescents (the board is normally used by fixture manufacturers and put inside the fixture) that includes a solid state relay to turn off AC to the ballast when the DMX level hits zero. Dove also makes a "relay board" that can be used with other DMX decoders to remove AC from the ballast when the DMX level approaches zero. The second type of dimmable ballast is controlled by a standard phase control dimmer. It has a line and neutral input. I've found these tend to flicker at lower levels where 0-10VDC ballasts are stable. The third type of dimmable ballast is controlled by a standard phase control dimmer, but has two line inputs, one dimmed, the other not dimmed. I've had limited experience with these, but I think they tend to flicker less than the two wire phase control ballasts (above). Another interesting problem that sometimes comes up is snubber leakage current in the dimmer slowly charges the power supply in the ballast until the lamp starts, discharging the power supply capacitor. When this happens, the lamp flashes for a fraction of a second every several seconds when the lamp is supposed to be off. A resistor across the AC output of the dimmer (4.7k seems to work) to shunt off the snubber leakage current solves the problem. I'm sure others on the list can give you specific ballast manufacture and model numbers. Harold (Dove Systems) > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello all. I know this topic has come up in the past and I am having some > trouble searching the archives. > > I am looking for dimmable ballasts to use in a theatre and I need some > assistance in choosing the correct ballast. > -- FCC Rules Online at http://www.hallikainen.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040914115717.01839b50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:57:17 From: CB Subject: Re: Remotely firing a pistol >RF triggering is the only way to achieve the timing required. Keep in mind that >this is a _machine_ gun firing ;-) With that in mind, I'm guessing you'd have a fresh op every show and no SM to call cues, and all the cool toys as your preference? It goes without saying that if I could get both, I'd take both. I'd love to have the toys as well, but if it were toys or hands on deck that knew the show and knew their gig, I'd take hands every day. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040914120244.01839b50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:02:44 From: CB Subject: Re: Remotely firing a pistol >I've said this many times, and agree with you. Somebody note the time... >The problem that defeats me is >how to get a visual cue for a shot. SM "Okay Bob, Jim is going to shout, "You jerk!" When he does that, he'll draw the weapon and bring it down over his head. When he gets about level, trigger SQ 26. Jim will react to the sound, and Jerry will squeeze the blood pack and fall over." Sound Op. "OK." Actors "OK." SM "Next cue..." Here lies the inherent value of a clued in SM, Frank. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:50:04 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Remotely firing a pistol In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, CB wrote: > With that in mind, I'm guessing you'd have a fresh op every show and no SM > to call cues, and all the cool toys as your preference? It goes without No SM???? Never ;-) The SM operates the show control system ;-) > saying that if I could get both, I'd take both. I'd love to have the toys Both is what you always get. I've never heard of a completely automated live show yet.... ;-) Charlie + Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design Ltd - Aura Show Control Ltd + + http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com -- http://www.AuraShowControl.com + +---- "Performance for the Long Run" ----- "Creativity in Control" ----+ ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <157.3f4f08db.2e78bcaa [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:29:14 EDT Subject: Re: storm In a message dated 9/14/04 8:53:40 AM, bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com writes: << I believe they are for commercial / "Open to the public" places, but not for home use. In an extended power outage the theatre is dark anyway of course, so I hole up at home with my Kerosun. At least that's how it is here - you wouldn't need them in Florida like we do! :-) >> actually kerosene heaters ( at least in Tampa / Hillsborough Co Florida ) are illegal for ANY use, , kerosene heaters, senior citizens and mobile homes are a bad mix, , , very best, Keith Arsenault International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, FL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:37:19 -0500 Subject: Kerosene Heaters was storm From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Keith Arsenault wrote: > actually kerosene heaters ( at least in Tampa / Hillsborough Co Florida )= are > illegal for ANY use, , kerosene heaters, senior citizens and mobile homes= are > a bad mix, , , Here is one more example of legislating common sense. I'm sure the fires must have gotten bad to prompt this. Of course kerosene heaters can be a safe, effective and life saving product when used correctly especially when it is -10=9A outside. Greg Persinger Vivid Illumination Greg [at] Vividillumination.com ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:48:58 EDT Subject: Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm In a message dated 9/14/04 5:37:59 PM, gregpersin [at] comcast.net writes: << For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Keith Arsenault wrote: > actually kerosene heaters ( at least in Tampa / Hillsborough Co Florida ) are > illegal for ANY use, , kerosene heaters, senior citizens and mobile homes are > a bad mix, , , Here is one more example of legislating common sense. I'm sure the fires must have gotten bad to prompt this. Of course kerosene heaters can be a safe, effective and life saving product when used correctly especially when it is -10 outside. Greg Persinger Vivid Illumination Greg [at] Vividillumination.com >> during the recent hurricane , , I needed to find "fuel" for my old kerosene laterns, , lamp fuel was gone ( what is that any how, , perfurmed kerosene? ) Tiki Torch fuel was available but it has citronella ( bug repellent ) in it and is not supposed to be used indoors Neither LOWES or HOME DEPOT carry kerosene ( I remember it as standard paint thinner as a kid ) I finally found it at an "old fashioned mom and pop" hardware store, , , damn I love those places, , you might pay a few bucks more and they don't have EVERYTHING a big box store has but when you are looking for that strange piece of hardware, , or something like KEROSENE, , , they are likely to have it. we used to have a "marine hardware" store down near the banana docks here in Tampa, , (it's now an upscale entertainment district ) I use to LOVE browsing through that place, , digging through stuff that was often 30 years old ( with 30 year old prices ) and looking at tons of stuff that I had NO clue what it was, , got quite an education hanging out there, , very best, Keith Arsenault International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, FL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:55:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Keith, I am with you. My wife quit going to hardware stores because I walk through and try to figure out what all of the stuff is and what I could make if I had it. Mom and Pop's are the best for this type of "shopping." Greg Persinger Vivid Illumination Greg [at] Vividillumination.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:02:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I used several kerosene heaters at our place in upstate NY for years. The modern ones with electric ignition and auto shutoff should be safe if used with common sense... but of course that is sadly lacking in many people. In Philadelphia there was a massive fire at a former scene shop that shall remain nameless. This was the top story on the news, and from our office on the 15th floor near Independence Hall we watched the fire. It's really fortunate that there were no injuries. The cause... careless workers filling a "salamander" style kerosene heater. They spilled kero on the floor which ignited. Evidently the building used to be a machine shop and the floors were permeated with oil which quickly fueled the fire. Many years ago we had a bunch of mosquitoes in the house and thought it would be a good idea to leave a citronella candle burning in the bedroom. I woke up in the middle of the night gasping for air in a smoke filled room - lucky we didn't suffocate! Not a good idea to burn citronella in an enclosed space... Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.1.20040914181658.019d54c8 [at] incoming.verizon.net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:22:46 -0400 From: Patrick McCreary Subject: Re: Dimming Fluorescent Fixtures In-Reply-To: References:

At 02:11 PM 9/14/2004, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Hello all. I know this topic has come up in the past and I am having some >trouble searching the archives. >I am looking for dimmable ballasts to use in a theatre and I need some >assistance in choosing the correct ballast. >Feel free to write back to me directly. >Thanks for the help. > >Mike Wade >mike [at] focusnote.com Advance Transformers has recently introduced a ballast that works directly off line voltage, and is compatible with standard theatrical dimmer outputs: http://www.advancetransformer.com/dimming/1mark_x.html I priced them a couple of months ago (wholesale, from a real electrical supplier), and they weren't much more than the other dimmable ballasts of similar quality. **Little known fact** Flourescent tubes suitable for dimming require a ONE HUNDRED HOUR burn-in time to put out a smooth dimming curve. (The burn-in doesn't have to be off a dimmable ballast, however.) Patrick G. Patrick McCreary Ass't. Professor - Technical Director Department of Theater and Dance Indiana University of Pennsylvania Indiana, PA 15701 (Office) 724-357-2644 (Home) 724-349-4309 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <01d901c49ab1$a4047160$0600a8c0 [at] alf> From: "Alf Sauve" References: Subject: Re: 11th use of a stageweight? Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:19:28 -0400 From: "Warren Stiles" > > Every tool is a hammer EXCEPT a chisel. That's a screwdriver. > > G. Warren > No, no, Warren. Isn't it, "Every tool is a hammer EXCEPT a screwdriver. That's a chisel."? Alf ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41479886.37EAE54 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:19:02 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm References: IAEG [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 9/14/04 5:37:59 PM, gregpersin [at] comcast.net writes: > > << For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Keith Arsenault wrote: > > > actually kerosene heaters ( at least in Tampa / Hillsborough Co Florida ) > are > > > illegal for ANY use, , kerosene heaters, senior citizens and mobile homes > are > > > a bad mix, , , > > Here is one more example of legislating common sense. I'm sure the fires > > must have gotten bad to prompt this. > > Of course kerosene heaters can be a safe, effective and life saving product > > when used correctly especially when it is -10 outside. > > Greg Persinger > > Vivid Illumination > > Greg [at] Vividillumination.com > > >> > > during the recent hurricane , , I needed to find "fuel" for my old kerosene > laterns, , lamp fuel was gone ( what is that any how, , perfurmed kerosene? ) > Tiki Torch fuel was available but it has citronella ( bug repellent ) in it > and is not supposed to be used indoors Lamp fuel is usually just kerosene with some colorant added to it. It comes in several pleasing colors. I have a couple of old kerosene lamps that we use for power failures. There is one that we bought that was imported from germany, it came with an adapter that attached to the top which allowed one to heat a kettle or frypan over it. My current power failure cooking source is a nifty little adapter that fits over a sterno can that gets hot enough to boil a decent sized pot of water in about the same time my electric stove can. Sterno cans are readily available at the local warehouse store, and don't stink up the house like kerosene does. --Dale ( Which reminds me, time to stock up on sterno and lamp fuel for this coming winter. ) ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <36.626dd943.2e78f197 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:15:03 EDT Subject: Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm In a message dated 9/14/04 9:13:31 PM, dale [at] cybercom.net writes: << My current power failure cooking source is a nifty little adapter that fits over a sterno can that gets hot enough to boil a decent sized pot of water in about the same time my electric stove can. >> got one of those as well, , it's an "antique" probably over 40 years of age, , it collapses, , folds down fairly small very best, Keith Arsenault International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, FL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:46:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Dale Farmer wrote: > > Tiki Torch fuel was available but it has citronella ( bug repellent ) > > in it and is not supposed to be used indoors > > Lamp fuel is usually just kerosene with some colorant added to it. That is not the case with the Tiki torch fuel, I got a bunch of those things awhile ago for an outdoor party (on sale for about $3 each, how can they do that?). The fuel does contain citronella, and they are designed to produce a lot of smoke to (supposedly) chase away the mosquitoes. They're somewhat effective at that, but it's amazing how smokey they are. Really not something you'd want to use inside. For my kerosene heater in upstate NY, almost mostof the gas stations in the little towns there have a kerosene pump where you can fill your cans. There is no tax on fuel that's used for heating, but you have to sign a book with your name and address and certify that it's for heating purposes (and not fuel for your personal Lear Jet I suppose). Kerosene is still my only heat source during the winter in my studio there. Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <007a01c49ad1$c9d9c0f0$b6f14a41 [at] D7LCXK11> From: "Kevin R. Lowther" References: Subject: Re: borderlining on OT: t-shirts Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:12:09 -0400 Still have a "nosy little f***ker" shirt. All black except for tiny print on the left breast. Perfect for backstage. Found a source in DC a few years ago and bought more. Last time I was through, the shop was closed though. It ranks right up there with my "I'm just a f* [at] #ing ray of sunshine, aren't I?" in bigger print. Everyone knew it was the 3rd day of load in when I wore it. By the way, if anyone knows where I could find another one of the latter, I cleaned out my trunk and sent mine off to storage a few years ago and would love to get another. Feel free to e-mail me off list. Kevin R. Lowther "The Lion King" Gazelle Tour-Automation Carpenter IATSE #15, Seattle, WA Currently in Boston, MA ----- Original Message ----- Long ago in my college years I worked with an electrician who regularly wore a t-shirt that had the tiniest print on the left breast, and when you got the necessary 10 inches away to read it it said, "nosy little f***er, aren't you?" Priceless. ===== Phil Blackwood Technical Director University of Miami (305)284-4474 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040915033853.66604.qmail [at] web14107.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:38:53 -0700 (PDT) From: June Abernathy Subject: Re: Auto Yokes >I did a show last year and it was the first time I >saw AutoYokes being used. Man are they beautiful, >color temp is great! Just a good quality LOOK more >than anything. >Cheers, >Sunil Rajan >Freelance Audio Mercenary >who used to do LX... Ummm - doesn't the color temperature and general "look" of the unit owe a lot more to the luminaire stuck in the yoke than it does to the yoke itself? June Abernathy IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL) FOH Electrician The Lion King National Tour (Gazelle) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: Re: Auto Yokes Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 00:10:19 -0400 Message-ID: >Ummm - doesn't the color temperature and general "look" of the unit owe a >lot more to the >luminaire stuck in the yoke than it does to the yoke >itself? ...And now you know why he's a former LX. :) (All in good fun, Sunil.) And yeah, it's more the lamp in the luminaire, and the color filter you have in front of it, that affects the color temperature. -- Matt ======= _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001f01c49ae2$5f875e90$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:10:52 -0700 > we used to have a "marine hardware" store down near the banana docks here > in > Tampa, , (it's now an upscale entertainment district ) I use to LOVE > browsing > through that place, , digging through stuff that was often 30 years old ( > with 30 year old prices ) and looking at tons of stuff that I had NO clue > what it > was, , got quite an education hanging out there, , Those are my very most favorite places! :) And the great thing about places like that is the folk that work there usually love to tell you all about the 1001 uses and techniques for whatever weird thing you've dug out. These guys (and they usually are guys) often can remember exactly why they started carrying that whatever doo-dad - because the guy who used to own the yellow tractor, Les, I think his name was... Married to Myrtle... well he drove in to town in a Studebaker, but not one of those ones later made by American Motor Company.... etc, etc. Good times. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #133 *****************************