Return-Path: <stagecraft-report [at] theatrical.net>
X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net
X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net
Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2)
  with PIPE id 4438942; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 03:01:01 -0700
X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:stagecraft-off [at] theatrical.net>
List-ID: <stagecraft.theatrical.net>
Message-ID: <list-4438940 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sender: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Precedence: list
Subject: Stagecraft Digest #134
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 03:00:40 -0700
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Disposition: inline
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=ham version=3.0.0-pre4
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-pre4 (2004-08-04) on prxy.net
X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned
X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4a3

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Stagecraft Digest, Issue #134

 1. Re: Truss
    by mconn [at] cumberlandcollege.edu
 2. Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
 3. Re: Auto Yokes
    by John McKernon <stagecraft2004 [at] mckernon.com>
 4. Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm
    by Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
 5. Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm
    by doran [at] bard.edu
 6. Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm
    by Greg Persinger <gregpersin [at] comcast.net>
 7. Scissor lifts
    by Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
 8. Car speakers as pa system
    by Eric Montague <eric [at] EricMontague.com>
 9. Re: Hippos et al.
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
10. Re: Remotely firing a pistol
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
11. Re: 11th use of a stageweight?
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
12. Re: Hardware Store (was: Kerosene Heaters)
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
13. Re: Car speakers as pa system
    by "Music Ministry" <music [at] fbcmcallen.com>
14. Regarding Deck surfaces...
    by Jason V <jvol [at] rcn.com>
15. Re: Regarding Deck surfaces...
    by "Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
16. Re: 11th use of a stageweight?
    by "will kent" <etcs4 [at] hotmail.com>
17. Re: Scissor lifts
    by "Chad Woerner" <cwoerner [at] popmail.ucsd.edu>
18. Re: Regarding Deck surfaces...
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
19. Vectorworks Question
    by "Steve" <sschepker [at] charter.net>
20. Re: Regarding Deck surfaces...
    by Jason V <jvol [at] rcn.com>
21. Re: Vectorworks Question
    by "Kevin Linzey" <Klinzey [at] nemetschek.net>
22. Re: Vectorworks Question
    by gregg hillmar <gregg [at] hillmardesign.com>
23. Re: Scissor lifts
    by Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
24. Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
25. Re: Regarding Deck surfaces...
    by Patrick McCreary <vze2gmht [at] verizon.net>
26. lighting fixture cad symbols
    by Richard Bakos <Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com>
27. Re: lighting fixture cad symbols
    by Andy Ciddor <aciddor [at] kilowatt.com.au>
28. Re: lighting fixture cad symbols
    by Richard Bakos <Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com>
29. Re: Remotely firing a Pistol
    by Sunil Rajan <squeakypig [at] earthlink.net>

*** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject
*** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to
*** one message subject in each reply.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message-ID: <1095249365.41482dd6024c6 [at] mail.cumberlandcollege.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 07:56:06 -0400
From: mconn [at] cumberlandcollege.edu
Subject: Re: Truss

Eric,

Are you planning on a little rig?  

<Snip>
would like to get a stick of 12" box truss  <G>

<Unsnip>

Might Check with Bill Sapsis of Sapsis-Rigging, a regular on the list.

HTH
Moe


Thank You Everyone for Supporting the Long Beach Long Riders efforts to Raise 
money for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights Aids. 
Check Out:  www.sapsis-rigging.com/LBLR.html



------------------------------

Subject: RE: Kerosene Heaters was storm
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:58:37 -0400
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A74ACA8 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>


> Neither LOWES or HOME DEPOT carry kerosene ( I remember it as=20
> standard paint=20
> thinner as a kid )   I finally found it at an "old fashioned=20
> mom and pop"=20
> hardware store, , ,   damn I love those places, , you might=20
> pay a few bucks more=20
> and they don't have EVERYTHING a big box store has but when=20
> you are looking for=20
> that strange piece of hardware, , or something like KEROSENE,=20
> , , they are=20
> likely to have it.

Here's a good example of the differences between states...kerosene is
not only legal here in VA, at my last place of residence (a drafty, tiny
little log cabin dating from around 1920) we'd just run down to the
local convenience store/gas station for it.  They had it in a tank next
to the diesel fuel...

On another note, it also boggled my mind that propane prices vary so
much from region to region.  Back up in Wisconsin, I used to be able to
get propane for my winter heat for about 69-72 cents/gallon.  Down here
it's more like $2.70/gallon...s'why we went with kerosene!

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:47:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Auto Yokes
From: John McKernon <stagecraft2004 [at] mckernon.com>
Message-ID: <BD6DC014.B008%stagecraft2004 [at] mckernon.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-4419748 [at] prxy.net>

> Ummm - doesn't the color temperature and general "look" of the unit owe a
> lot more to the >luminaire stuck in the yoke than it does to the yoke
> itself?

And that's exactly the point. When you have a show that needs a lot of
specials but you don't have much room, an AutoYoke with a S4 in it is
perfect precisely because the S4's light output matches the other equipment
on the plot. Most moving lights have a different light source, so getting
them to produce the equivalent of R-33 as produced by an S4 with R-33 in the
color frame is almost impossible. Ditto for beam edge and all the other
characteristics.

Of course, if you *want* the ML to stick out from the rest of plot, then
that's when you choose a regular ML. The right tool for the right job.

- John McKernon






------------------------------

In-Reply-To: <list-4430960 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-4430960 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <B4E8B9A5-072B-11D9-83B2-000393897332 [at] email.arizona.edu>
Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien)
From: Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:27:08 -0700



On Sep 15, 2004, at 5:58 AM, Paul Schreiner wrote:

> On another note, it also boggled my mind that propane prices vary so
> much from region to region.  Back up in Wisconsin, I used to be able to
> get propane for my winter heat for about 69-72 cents/gallon.  Down here
> it's more like $2.70/gallon...s'why we went with kerosene!


In Arizona,  Propane is often used as a motor fuel, and in fact 
mandated for people who have certain automobiles  with the capability 
of using it.  The propane dealers ran with it, and it costs at least as 
much as gasoline, when in neighboring states it is half as much.


Mark O'Brien
Opera Technical Director
University of Arizona, School of Music
Tucson, AZ
520/621-7025
520/591-1803 Mobile


------------------------------

Message-ID: <1095266797.414871ed5f79d [at] webmail.bard.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 12:46:37 -0400
From: doran [at] bard.edu
Subject: Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm
References: <list-4417226 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-4417226 [at] prxy.net>

Greg,

'Round here, it's usually the Carbon monoxide poisiononing thast kills folks, 
and not the fires, during cold-weather power outages.

Andy Champ-Doran
Poughkeepsie, NY


Quoting Greg Persinger <gregpersin [at] comcast.net>:

> > illegal for ANY use, , kerosene heaters, senior citizens and mobile 
>>homes are a bad mix, , ,

> Here is one more example of legislating common sense. I'm sure the fires
> must have gotten bad to prompt this.
> Of course kerosene heaters can be a safe, effective and life saving 
product
> when used correctly especially when it is -10š outside.
> Greg Persinger



------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 12:13:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm
From: Greg Persinger <gregpersin [at] comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BD6DE266.7355%gregpersin [at] comcast.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-4432689 [at] prxy.net>

Andy Champ-Doran wrote:

> 'Round here, it's usually the Carbon monoxide poisioning that kills folks,
> and not the fires, during cold-weather power outages.

That's too bad. Carbon Monoxide detectors are cheap.

Of course there is my friends wife who took the battery out of the detector
because it kept going off. He was gone and she was tired of dealing with it.
She didn't have the sense to recognize that there might be a problem.

I called on a whim looking for him and found out he was out of town and she
mentioned she didn't get any sleep that night because the carbon monoxide
detector kept going off. I immediately had her open the windows and leave
the house.

A close inspection of the water heater revealed a leak in the duct work.

I couldn't believe she didn't have a clue about the danger.

"You! Out of the gene pool" HA HA HA  (use evil laugh sound effect here)

Greg Persinger
Vivid Illumination

Greg [at] Vividillumination.com



------------------------------

Message-ID: <20040915172032.45209.qmail [at] web81708.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:20:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Scissor lifts
In-Reply-To: <list-4431302 [at] prxy.net>

Can anyone recommend any books/articles/webpages/etc.
to learn about the use and design of scissor lifts and
similar equipment? I am looking at possibly building a
lift for a trapdoor effect, and would like to know how
to determine the necessary dimensions and forces. I
know that the Tech Briefs have some lift designs,
which I will look at tonight. I also want to try and
learn something new with this project though.

Thanks,
Mike H

------------------------------

Message-Id: <a06110400bd6e26250301 [at] [192.168.1.152]>
In-Reply-To: <list-4430014 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-4430014 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:06:43 -0700
From: Eric Montague <eric [at] EricMontague.com>
Subject: Car speakers as pa system

does anyone see any problem with using car stereo speakers for an 
indoor sound system. i.e. building sealed boxes and putting them in. 
response appreciated
	-eric

------------------------------

Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040915111245.01833988 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:12:45
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Hippos et al.

>However, "hippopotamuses" caught 13,900 hits on Google while "hippopotami"
>garnered 11,000.

...and there were hundreds of thousands, if not millions, celebrating the
turn of the millenium on Dec. 31, 1999.  They were wrong, too.  Wrong is
wrong, even if its popular.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040915111825.01833988 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:18:25
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Remotely firing a pistol

>No SM????  Never ;-)  The SM operates the show control system ;-)
>Both is what you always get.  I've never heard of a completely automated
live 
>show yet.... ;-)

Yeah, and you can get them good fast and cheap, too.  C'mon Charlie, don't
be Frank, answer the question.  There is a show with no SM, touring and
getting a new Sound Op every stop, from GNW.  This show has RF controlled
automation on the gunshots, and it triggers some sort of solid state or
hard drive playback.  The other show is running the same script, but it
relies on the SM and the touring Sound Op to make the show go.  Which one
do you tour with?
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040915112154.01833988 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:21:54
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: 11th use of a stageweight?

>No, no, Warren.  Isn't it, "Every tool is a hammer EXCEPT a screwdriver. 
>That's a chisel."?

"Every tool in your bag is a hammer. Except your finest, sharpest chisel.
That's a paint can opener."
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040915113035.01833988 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:30:35
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: RE: Hardware Store (was: Kerosene Heaters)

>These guys (and they usually are guys) 

The two that know everything (and its history) at my favorite local M&P
hardware store are both female. Go figure.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Message-ID: <072a01c49b54$f21977d0$65011dc7 [at] USER012>
From: "Music Ministry" <music [at] fbcmcallen.com>
References: <list-4430014 [at] prxy.net> <list-4433177 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Car speakers as pa system
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:51:01 -0500

if your room is of any size, it probably would not be a good idea, unless
you're going to have lots of them placed all over a low ceiling.  Even then,
you would probably miss the low end frequencies  Car speakers are intended
for use in small enclosed spaces.  Unless you're really desparate with no
other options, I wouldn't recommend it.
Kyle
TX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Montague" <eric [at] EricMontague.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: Car speakers as pa system


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> does anyone see any problem with using car stereo speakers for an
> indoor sound system. i.e. building sealed boxes and putting them in.
> response appreciated
> -eric


------------------------------

Message-ID: <414892AD.1030303 [at] rcn.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:06:21 -0400
From: Jason V <jvol [at] rcn.com>
Subject: Regarding Deck surfaces...

Quick question.... In addition to Arboron, and tempered masonite, can 
anyone reccomend any other durable deck surfaces?
Thanks!
-Jason

-- 
I'll encourage thinking outside the box, when there is evidence of thinking going on inside of it. -Terry Pratchett



------------------------------

Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE390213D6A21 [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
From: "Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
Subject: RE: Regarding Deck surfaces...
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:26:34 -0500

I decked my stage in something called plyron a couple o years ago and that
stuff is awesome.  The stuff is built like a BSH and can take any
punishment.  About $60 per 4x8 sheet in pallet lots.

HTH,

Pat Immel
Northwest Missouri State University

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason V [mailto:jvol [at] rcn.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:06 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Regarding Deck surfaces...

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Quick question.... In addition to Arboron, and tempered masonite, can 
anyone reccomend any other durable deck surfaces?
Thanks!
-Jason

-- 
I'll encourage thinking outside the box, when there is evidence of thinking
going on inside of it. -Terry Pratchett


------------------------------

From: "will kent" <etcs4 [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 11th use of a stageweight?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:32:07 +0000
Message-ID: <BAY24-F32MJiQTyfPef0012dd5c [at] hotmail.com>

I think standing behind a total wooden door leading to a halway where the 
dance team happens to be practicing and throwing the weights on the cement 
ground and screaming bloody murder, then walk out as if nothing happen to 
hear a bunch of girls asking if you are alright is a great use too.

Will Kent
www.kentlighting.cjb.net

_________________________________________________________________
Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to 
School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx


------------------------------

From: "Chad Woerner" <cwoerner [at] popmail.ucsd.edu>
Subject: RE: Scissor lifts
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:34:50 -0700
Message-ID: <BOEHLJKGBKKFEIBLECNJCEKFCCAA.cwoerner [at] ljp.ucsd.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-4432920 [at] prxy.net>

If you are thinking about implementing a scissors into a stage lift and you
have questions about getting your hands on a stock scissors lift I would
talk to the people at Handling Specialty.  I haven't had a chance to buy a
lift from them yet, but they were extremely helpful in answering my
questions, and they have a great engineering department who can accommodate
most of what you can dream up.

Gary Royer
Engineered Product Sales,  ext. 233

Handling Specialty
United States:  PO Box 279, Niagara Falls, NY, 14304-0279    ph: (716)
694-6333              fax: (716) 694-6903
Canada:  PO Box 98, 219 South Service Rd., Grimsby, ON L3M 4G1   ph: (905)
945-9661 fax: (905) 945-0155
website:  www.handling.com

Hope that helps,

Chad Woerner
La Jolla Playhouse
Assistant Technical Director
cwoerner [at] ljp.ucsd.edu
O:858.534.6532
F:858.534.6558

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Michael
Heinicke
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:21 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Scissor lifts

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Can anyone recommend any books/articles/webpages/etc.
to learn about the use and design of scissor lifts and
similar equipment? I am looking at possibly building a
lift for a trapdoor effect, and would like to know how
to determine the necessary dimensions and forces. I
know that the Tech Briefs have some lift designs,
which I will look at tonight. I also want to try and
learn something new with this project though.

Thanks,
Mike H


------------------------------

Subject: RE: Regarding Deck surfaces...
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:15:23 -0400
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A74ACAF [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> Quick question.... In addition to Arboron, and tempered masonite, can=20
> anyone reccomend any other durable deck surfaces?

First, it'd help if we knew what kind of deck you were talking about and
what its usual usage will be.

Second, given almost any alternative, I don't think I'd ever "recommend"
tempered masonite for anything any more... <g>

------------------------------

Message-ID: <000501c49b6a$4d09c0e0$1e7e7244 [at] D78YGH41>
From: "Steve" <sschepker [at] charter.net>
Subject: Vectorworks Question
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:23:52 -0500

Greetings,
I have just upgraded to Vectorworks 11 and am updating all my house
drawings, but I am having a problem.  I want to change the font on my
electrics.  I converted all of them to lighting positions and they work
fine.  The font is just wrong.  I tried the label legend manager.  Any
ideas?
Just sitting at the dining room table waiting for Hurricane Ivan.
Time for a cocktail,
Steve Schepker
Southeastern Louisiana University


------------------------------

Message-ID: <4148B5BA.1070303 [at] rcn.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:35:54 -0400
From: Jason V <jvol [at] rcn.com>
Subject: Re: Regarding Deck surfaces...
References: <list-4434741 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-4434741 [at] prxy.net>

4x8 speed deck. used for a christmas show down south. two deck tracks. 
moderately heavy scenery


Paul Schreiner wrote:

>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>  
>
>>Quick question.... In addition to Arboron, and tempered masonite, can 
>>anyone reccomend any other durable deck surfaces?
>>    
>>
>
>First, it'd help if we knew what kind of deck you were talking about and
>what its usual usage will be.
>
>Second, given almost any alternative, I don't think I'd ever "recommend"
>tempered masonite for anything any more... <g>
>
>  
>


-- 
I'll encourage thinking outside the box, when there is evidence of thinking going on inside of it. -Terry Pratchett



------------------------------

From: "Kevin Linzey" <Klinzey [at] nemetschek.net>
Subject: RE: Vectorworks Question
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:38:05 -0400
Message-ID: <003901c49b6c$48ef1da0$3c00a8c0 [at] KLinzeypc>
In-Reply-To: <list-4434794 [at] prxy.net>

To change the font of the lighting position name and summary information,
select the lighting position and change the font using the standard
Vectorworks text menu.

For instruments change the font in the Label Legend and run the Refresh
Instruments command.

Kevin
----------------------------
Kevin Linzey
Nemetschek North America
Integrated Products Engineer
-----------------------------

 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:24 PM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Vectorworks Question
> 
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Greetings,
> I have just upgraded to Vectorworks 11 and am updating all my 
> house drawings, but I am having a problem.  I want to change 
> the font on my electrics.  I converted all of them to 
> lighting positions and they work fine.  The font is just 
> wrong.  I tried the label legend manager.  Any ideas? Just 
> sitting at the dining room table waiting for Hurricane Ivan. 
> Time for a cocktail, Steve Schepker Southeastern Louisiana University
> 


------------------------------

In-Reply-To: <list-4434794 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-4434794 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <F9E937ED-0761-11D9-90A2-000A95D99210 [at] hillmardesign.com>
From: gregg hillmar <gregg [at] hillmardesign.com>
Subject: Re: Vectorworks Question
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:55:37 -0400

Hey Steve,
  I've actually been wondering about how you were riding this one out. 
I'll hoist a scotch in wishing you safety through the next few days...

As long as you have power, or the laptop battery, in Vectorworks 11, 
just select the position object and go to the text menu and change it 
to anything you like! My current favorite is a font called TwoByFour 
that looks hand drawn, even down to the semi-erased reference lines... 
But it really is as easy as selecting and changing from the text 
menu...

stay safe!
gregg
_____________________
gregg hillmar
scenic & lighting design
portfolio & life as we know it:
http://www.hillmardesign.com

"Work like you don't need the money.  Love like you've never been hurt. 
Dance like no one's watching."
                                    Satchel Paige


On Sep 15, 2004, at 5:23 PM, Steve wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Greetings,
> I have just upgraded to Vectorworks 11 and am updating all my house
> drawings, but I am having a problem.  I want to change the font on my
> electrics.  I converted all of them to lighting positions and they work
> fine.  The font is just wrong.  I tried the label legend manager.  Any
> ideas?
> Just sitting at the dining room table waiting for Hurricane Ivan.
> Time for a cocktail,
> Steve Schepker
> Southeastern Louisiana University
>


------------------------------

In-Reply-To: <list-4434454 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-4434454 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <5BFF2D78-0764-11D9-83B2-000393897332 [at] email.arizona.edu>
Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien)
From: Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: Scissor lifts
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:12:40 -0700

I have had luck using lifts meant for material handling. Usually, even 
the smallest ones lift 500 - 1000 lb..  It may seem like overkill, but 
they are very versatile. I have some used smaller lifts, contact me off 
list for info.

Mark O'Brien
Opera Technical Director
University of Arizona, School of Music
Tucson, AZ
520/621-7025
520/591-1803 Mobile


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Michael
> Heinicke
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:21 AM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Scissor lifts
>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Can anyone recommend any books/articles/webpages/etc.
> to learn about the use and design of scissor lifts and
> similar equipment? I am looking at possibly building a
> lift for a trapdoor effect, and would like to know how
> to determine the necessary dimensions and forces. I
> know that the Tech Briefs have some lift designs,
> which I will look at tonight. I also want to try and
> learn something new with this project though.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike H
>


------------------------------

From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <85.1619b121.2e7a1de8 [at] aol.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:36:24 EDT
Subject: Re: Kerosene Heaters was storm


In a message dated 9/15/04 12:47:21 PM, doran [at] bard.edu writes:

<< 

Greg,


'Round here, it's usually the Carbon monoxide poisiononing thast kills folks, 

and not the fires, during cold-weather power outages.


Andy Champ-Doran

Poughkeepsie, NY >>


there have been at least TWO deaths in post hurricane Charley and Frances 
from people using small generators INDOORS  ( for fear of theft if left outdoors 
it seems )

very best, 

Keith Arsenault
International Arts & Entertainment Group
Tampa, FL

------------------------------

Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.1.20040915210940.019db5b0 [at] incoming.verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:19:41 -0400
From: Patrick McCreary <vze2gmht [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Regarding Deck surfaces...
In-Reply-To: <list-4433718 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-4433718 [at] prxy.net>

At 03:06 PM 9/15/2004, Jason V wrote:

>Quick question.... In addition to Arboron, and tempered masonite, can 
>anyone reccomend any other durable deck surfaces?
>Thanks!
>-Jason
>
>--
>I'll encourage thinking outside the box, when there is evidence of 
>thinking going on inside of it. -Terry Pratchett

And then Paul Schreiner wrote:

> > Quick question.... In addition to Arboron, and tempered masonite, can
> > anyone reccomend any other durable deck surfaces?
>
>First, it'd help if we knew what kind of deck you were talking about and
>what its usual usage will be.
>
>Second, given almost any alternative, I don't think I'd ever "recommend"
>tempered masonite for anything any more... <g>


And I reply:

Paul's right, for one simple reason - there's no such thing as "tempered 
Masonite" any more; tempered hardboard, yes, but The Masonite Company no 
longer makes a product callled "Masonite". They do make DURON, a much 
better product than masonite ever was, which I use for my deck surfaces.

The trick to using any relatively thin sheet material for a floor surface 
is to paint it well on both sides before it's laid, and space it properly 
when it's laid. See instructions for DURON on my web site:

http://www.arts.iup.edu/facthe/gpatrick/instructions/duron%20instructions.htm

I wish I had the money for Plyron, on the one hand; on the other hand, I 
have had no trouble with my Duron surfaces, and 1/4" sheets are 
considerably easier to replace than 3/4" sheets.

Patrick

G. Patrick McCreary
Ass't. Professor - Technical Director
Department of Theater and Dance
Indiana University of Pennsylvania
Indiana, PA 15701
(Office) 724-357-2644
(Home) 724-349-4309


------------------------------

Message-ID: <4148EAF7.9010101 [at] StudioOneSB.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:23:03 -0500
From: Richard Bakos <Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com>
Organization: Studio One Inc.
Subject: lighting fixture cad symbols

I know this has been answered but I could not search the archive it 
gives an effort with every try.

Who has cad symbols for lighting instruments?

Rick


-- 

Richard Bakos

President 

Studio One Inc.

25833 State Road 2

South Bend, In 46619-4736

VOICE 574-232-9084

FAX   574-232-2220

Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com <mailto:Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com>

www.StudioOnesb.com

 



------------------------------

Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20040916114010.03a15e00 [at] pop3.kilowatt.com.au>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:41:02 +1000
From: Andy Ciddor <aciddor [at] kilowatt.com.au>
Subject: Re: lighting fixture cad symbols
In-Reply-To: <list-4436208 [at] prxy.net>

At 11:23 16.09.2004, you wrote:

>Who has cad symbols for lighting instruments?

http://www.alia.com.au/links/index.html#Symbol%20Libraries


------------------------------

Message-ID: <41490383.1050102 [at] StudioOneSB.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 22:07:47 -0500
From: Richard Bakos <Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com>
Organization: Studio One Inc.
Subject: Re: lighting fixture cad symbols
References: <list-4436356 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-4436356 [at] prxy.net>

Thanks, the list rocks as usual.

Andy Ciddor wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> At 11:23 16.09.2004, you wrote:
>
>> Who has cad symbols for lighting instruments?
>
>
> http://www.alia.com.au/links/index.html#Symbol%20Libraries
>
>

-- 

Richard Bakos

President 

Studio One Inc.

25833 State Road 2

South Bend, In 46619-4736

VOICE 574-232-9084

FAX   574-232-2220

Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com <mailto:Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com>

www.StudioOnesb.com

 



------------------------------

In-Reply-To: <list-4411922 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-4411922 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <A5F696B4-0796-11D9-82F7-000A95BD64AC [at] earthlink.net>
From: Sunil Rajan <squeakypig [at] earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Remotely firing a Pistol
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:12:39 -0400


> I must clarify the gunshots.  One actor "kills" at least 3 other actors
> before he kills himself.  Timing the "kill" shots is much more 
> difficult to
> sync than the final suicide shot.
>
>
> Dave Reynolds

ever see any of The Producers shows (or tours)?  The Franz Leibkind 
scene when he's chasing them around shooting is all cued manually!  It 
just takes a bit of practice and rehearsal to time them out, but it's a 
quick and dirty solution that works with little muss or fuss!
If the other 3 actors as well as the "shooter" work it out with the 
operator, the effect can be quite convincing.

Cheers,
Sunil Rajan
Freelance Audio Mercenary


------------------------------

End of Stagecraft Digest #134
*****************************