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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #144

 1. Re: Juliat Followspots
    by "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
 2. Re: Commodore
    by Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
 3. Re: Flouescents
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 4. Re: revolving door problem
    by "Scott Boyle" <smboyle [at] cc.edu>
 5. Re: Revolving Doors
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 6. Re: lamp life (was Re: lightbulb)
    by MPTecDir [at] aol.com
 7. Re: Commodore
    by "Harold Hallikainen" <harold [at] hallikainen.com>
 8. Re: Color scrolls...
    by "Jason Cowperthwaite" <jcowpert [at] wam.umd.edu>
 9. Re: No light Flourescent Lights
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
10. Re: lamp life (was Re: lightbulb)
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
11. Re: Commodore
    by Kåre Olai Lindbach <barbr-en [at] online.no>
12. Re: Commodore
    by "Harold Hallikainen" <harold [at] hallikainen.com>
13. Re: Commodore
    by Kåre Olai Lindbach <barbr-en [at] online.no>
14. Re: lamp life (was Re: lightbulb)
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
15. An Italian Job needed
    by "Frank E. Merrill" <Lamplighter [at] TCON.net>
16. Re: No light Flourescent Lights
    by MissWisc [at] aol.com
17. Re: An Italian Job needed
    by John McKernon <stagecraft2004 [at] mckernon.com>
18. Re: Juliat Followspots
    by June Abernathy <jea00321 [at] yahoo.com>
19. Re: An Italian Job needed
    by Eddie Kramer <ESKramer [at] IEEE.org>
20. Re: No light Flourescent Lights
    by Eddie Kramer <ESKramer [at] IEEE.org>

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Message-ID: <004c01c4a2e7$23071bb0$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony>
From: "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
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Subject: Re: Juliat Followspots
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:05:02 +0100


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Persinger" <gregpersin [at] comcast.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: Juliat Followspots


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> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Jason wrote:
> > You HAVE TO BE KIDDING! That's the worst follow spot that I have ever
ran. I
> > have ran follow spots for over 28 years in many configuration and would
> > rather hold an old Altman by hand than use a Juliat followspot.
>
> Jason,
>
> Maybe the Juliat followspots are hard to run but the output is beautiful.
>
> I agree with Tony that there are some situations where they work
incredibly
> well as I have used them on several shows and a few short tours with
> excellent results.
>
> Like everything there are pros and cons but I found that the good
outweighed
> the bad.
>
>
> Greg Persinger

Interesting....
Not sure what you mean about hard to run.
With our Marius', the iris, the fade/shutter, the frost, the colour frames
are all in easy reach and simple to use. I especially liked the rotary iris
control as opposed to the traditional up/down lever.
I have a wide variety of users (mainly amateurs) coming in on the spots, and
last year my 15 year old niece came in, never touched a lime before but left
after the first night working it like a good 'un!

Ynot



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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:09:03 +0100 (BST)
From: Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
Subject: Re: Commodore
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004, Kare Olai Lindbach wrote:

> Well, from one who used the Microstar (*) application on an Apple II
> around 1980, I was just wondering if it was a functional lighting
> desk. What you describe make me think about a prosess-running
> application reading from ex. a manual prepared file. Not that that is
> any bad, but the complexity of a lightdesk lies in those
> user-interative functions.

True - it was not a lighting desk nor did it try to be one with no control 
surface and 16,000 channels ;-)  It was a mouse based graphical interface that 
handled integrated programmable chases while the channels faded up and down and 
dynamic assignment of hundreds of submasters and manual fade rate controllers as 
well.  It was extremely comprehensive and had thousands of virtual controls 
which would have been bewildering for an operator to control live....

> And the Amiga is a far more advanced machine than the Apple II. (I

Some say it is still more advanced than Windows ;-)  Emulator software is still 
available that runs on Wintel machines.

> necessary hardware: one or more I/O-cards on the internal card-bus,
> outputting 0 to +5/+10/-10V0 or something similar.

Our system used a single card in the internal computer bus that connected to any 
number of local or remote card frames via a 32 bit parallel ribbon cable and/or 
100Mb/sec fibre optic link that could be daisy chained for stretches of up to 
2km each link.  The volcano at the Mirage still uses one of these systems AFAIK 
- but they have been talking about replacing it for a long time because they 
have been worried that the Amiga has been 'obsolete' for 10 years or so...

Charlie.

+ Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design Ltd - Aura Show Control Ltd +
+ http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com -- http://www.AuraShowControl.com +
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From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: Flouescents
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 05:24:53 -1000

Hey Kids,
>
> I am using some 24" and 36" flourescent fixtures in a custom display for a
> trade show.  The 24" units work just fine and coincidentaly have a little
> round "starter" in the circuit.
>
> The 36" units are the problem.  When they are turned on, they will not
> actually light up until I touch the lamp tube with my hand.  This is under
> normal circumstances a pita, but since these units are completely enclosed
> in the cabinet, it is a disaster.  I have tried some slightly used
fixtures
> as well as some brand new ones.  The 36" units don't have a "starter" and
> have a much larger ballast.
>
> So far I have gotten advice to check line voltage, (have not done it yet
but
> has always been fine in the past) and to rub the lamp with the comic pages
> from the Sunday paper.  After I do that, should I go rinse the dust off of
> all of the gel in the cabinet?

Try adding a ground wire.

Or buy fixtures that work.  As I remember, they didn't work right out of the
box.

Laters,

Paul

"I'll try and dig it up for you," Tom said gravely.


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From: "Scott Boyle" <smboyle [at] cc.edu>
Subject: RE: revolving door problem
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:34:25 -0500
Organization: Carroll College
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>>Tracy wrote:

>>Yes, -- fixed casters aligned perpendicular to a radius of the circle.

>>You really need to brace that pipe quite extensively for this to work.
>>One possibility might be to mount a longer piece of pipe somewhere
below
>>the stage floor and just have it extend through the stage floor
through
>>a very tightly fit hole.  That would help to brace the bottom which
>>would reduce the wobble further up.

I like to use UHMW pads under the door frame itself. I've found most
casters which are small enough to do the job and be fairly unobtrusive,
are loud and squeaky.

Scott


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From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: Revolving Doors
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 05:36:00 -1000

<<The door is mounted on a platform (12",  I believe).  The individual door
panels were designed to evoke large glass ovals.  In other words, the plan
was to use sheets of ply with large oval cutouts.

The doors are mounted on a central pipe.  The pipe fitting at the top of the
pipe is mounted on lumber (approx 1'0" square) to which the door frames can
be fixed at 90 degree angles.  The biggest problem is wobble:  bottom and
top panel "rails,"  the "stile" length opposite the pipe, and so on.  Actors
move through the revolving door a lot, and the "transparency" of the overall
unit is crucial.

For extra fun, there is no larger architectural structure:  no wall area
next to or above the revolving door.  Mercifully, the option to have the
whole unit moveable was long scrapped.

Any thoughts?

Many thanks.

Janice Pohl
Elmhurst College>>

Quick response:

I did this before... only had 3 doors in the unit.  The doors were connected
to each other edgewise.  There was a12" round plate centered at the top and
bottom of the unit which gave the doors stability.  Each door had a single
swivel caster (normally I would use a straight caster for any rotating unit
but this one traveled in a track that turned many corners on stage).  In
your case, I would recommend considering the center "post" as for alignment
only... or eliminate it and attach the doors directly to each other...
offsetting them by their thickness to allow you to screw thought the face of
one into the edge of another.

Laters,

Paul

"My stereo is working great now," said Tom ecstatically.



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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:03:19 -0400
From: MPTecDir [at] aol.com
Subject: Re: lamp life (was Re: lightbulb)
Message-ID: <3A0BAFCB.2D4C1890.00740ECC [at] aol.com>

Eddie Kramer <ESKramer [at] IEEE.org> wrote:

............Remember
     Lamp Life = (Rated Life)x((Rated Voltage)/(Applied Voltage))^12
that is Rated Voltage divided by the Applied Voltage to the 12 power.
Or for a 10% reduction in voltage, there is about a 350% increase in lamp life  .........        

Eddie, 

Does this hold true for halogen lamps??  I have always been told, please correct me if I'm wrong, that the halogen cycle depended on maintaining at least a minimum lamp temperture.  Below that temperture the cycle didn't work and lamp life was shortened. I remember being told at one time that, if one has a show with a lot of low intensity scenes, it was good practice to give those lamps a 10-15 min warm up at full durring lamp check to "restore the halogen cycle condition".  Is this true or false or somewhere inbetween??  Any thoughts or info?
-- 
Michael

Michael Powers, Technical Director
U Mass Amherst, Dept of Theatre
112 Fine Arts Center West
151 Presidents Drive Ofc 2
Amherst, MA 01003-9331
 
Phone:  413-545-6821
Fax:    413-577-0025
http://www.umass.edu/theater/ 
mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu
mptecdir [at] aol.com


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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:44:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Commodore
From: "Harold Hallikainen" <harold [at] hallikainen.com>

Regarding MicroStar
>
> (*) I still have a lieflet lying around, and a copy of the
> application. Those were free, as nowadays, the price was put into the
> necessary hardware: one or more I/O-cards on the internal card-bus,
> outputting 0 to +5/+10/-10V0 or something similar.
>



Dove Systems bought West Star, the manufacturer of the MicroStar. I still
have an Apple II in my office with a MicroStar in it. Dove then developed
the StarCard, which plugged into the ISA bus of IBM PC compatible
computers. I then ported the StarCard software over to work with the
StarPort that plugs into the printer port of a PC. A preliminary Windoze
application for the StarPort is now shipping. A USB StarPort is about to
start shipping.


Harold

-- 
FCC Rules Online at http://www.hallikainen.com

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From: "Jason Cowperthwaite" <jcowpert [at] wam.umd.edu>
Subject: RE: Color scrolls...
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:55:50 -0400
Message-ID: <00b801c4a328$e7aed2f0$0200a8c0 [at] randland>
In-Reply-To: <list-4508387 [at] prxy.net>

We'll be making 18 strings for Chroma-Q's.  

Jason Cowperthwaite

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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 9:18 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Color scrolls...

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Jason:

How many are you making, and for what kind of scroller?  I dare say it
may be MUCH more cost and time effective to have them built for you.
Not trying to discourage you at all--just trying to keep things in
perspective.

--Sean

Sean R. McCarthy
seanrmc [at] earthlink.net


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason" <jcowpert [at] wam.umd.edu>
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 4:30 PM
> Subject: Color scrolls...
> >
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > I am finding myself needing to make custom scrolls for a show I am
working
> > on.  Never having done this myself, i am looking for help, advice,
> > whatever on how to do this properly, what supplies i should get,
tips for
> > success, etc.
> >
> > thanks in advance,
> >
> > Jason Cowperthwaite
> > Lighting/Audio Coordinator
> > Greenberg Theatre - American University


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040925120625.0196cfb0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:06:25
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: RE: No light Flourescent Lights

>If I had a problem and somebody suggested that I "rub the lamp" to solve =
>it, I would probably assume they were having some fun with me...

As it was explained to me, particulates and some films on the tube itself
would carry some of the voltage on the surface (?), and cleaning it off
would make the lam work properly.  Never did do the research, but the lamps
worked after I cleaned them, so I didn't much care why.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 15:48:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: lamp life (was Re: lightbulb)
In-reply-to: <list-4512684 [at] prxy.net>
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Michael mused:
> ---------------------------------------------------

> Does this hold true for halogen lamps??  I have always been told, please
> correct me if I'm wrong, that the halogen cycle depended on maintaining at
> least a minimum lamp temperture.  Below that temperture the cycle didn't
> work and lamp life was shortened.

The Halogen Cycle does depend on a minimum lamp temperature.  However, a
10% reduction in intensity shouldn't effect the Halogen cycle.  According
to this page (http://jamesc.net/bartlett-lighting/L02-sources.html) the
T-H cycle requires a minimum wall temperature of 250 deg Celcius.

Steve Litterst


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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=E5re_Olai_Lindbach?= <barbr-en [at] online.no>
Subject: Re: Commodore
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 22:16:04 +0200
Organization: LLP
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:44:56 -0700 (PDT), you ("Harold Hallikainen"
<harold [at] hallikainen.com>) wrote:

>Dove Systems bought West Star, the manufacturer of the MicroStar. I still
>have an Apple II in my office with a MicroStar in it. Dove then developed
>the StarCard, which plugged into the ISA bus of IBM PC compatible
>computers. I then ported the StarCard software over to work with the
>StarPort that plugs into the printer port of a PC. A preliminary Windoze
>application for the StarPort is now shipping. A USB StarPort is about to
>start shipping.

Thanks alot for this interesting info. 

Do you say there is a PC-compatible version of that application?
Is there a free demo available? <tongue-out-of-cheek>
(I cannot find anything on www.dovesystems.com).

(I have no old Apple available, and would love to see the product
again)


-- 
mvh/Regards Kåre Olai Lindbach
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:40:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Commodore
From: "Harold Hallikainen" <harold [at] hallikainen.com>
Cc: harold [at] dovesystems.com

I believe the DOS version of the StarPort software is a derivative of the
MicroStar software. I'll see if I can email you a copy on Monday.

Harold

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> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:44:56 -0700 (PDT), you ("Harold Hallikainen"
> <harold [at] hallikainen.com>) wrote:
>
>>Dove Systems bought West Star, the manufacturer of the MicroStar. I still
>>have an Apple II in my office with a MicroStar in it. Dove then developed
>>the StarCard, which plugged into the ISA bus of IBM PC compatible
>>computers. I then ported the StarCard software over to work with the
>>StarPort that plugs into the printer port of a PC. A preliminary Windoze
>>application for the StarPort is now shipping. A USB StarPort is about to
>>start shipping.
>
> Thanks alot for this interesting info.
>
> Do you say there is a PC-compatible version of that application?
> Is there a free demo available? <tongue-out-of-cheek>
> (I cannot find anything on www.dovesystems.com).
>
> (I have no old Apple available, and would love to see the product
> again)
>
>
> --
> mvh/Regards Kåre Olai Lindbach
> (News: Remove '_delete_' and '.invalid')
> (HTML-written email from unknown will be discarded)
>


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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=E5re_Olai_Lindbach?= <barbr-en [at] online.no>
Subject: Re: Commodore
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:32:09 +0200
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:40:26 -0700 (PDT), you ("Harold Hallikainen"
<harold [at] hallikainen.com>) wrote:

>I believe the DOS version of the StarPort software is a derivative of the
>MicroStar software. I'll see if I can email you a copy on Monday.

Thanks alot.

-- 
mvh/Regards Kåre Olai Lindbach
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From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: lamp life (was Re: lightbulb)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 22:50:16 -0500

> Does this hold true for halogen lamps??

I too have have been told about the halogen cycle but I have my halogen 
houselights dimmed to 90 percent and have gotten about 7 times the life 
out of them.  Not a scientific study, just an observation.

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 22:14:26 -0500
From: "Frank E. Merrill" <Lamplighter [at] TCON.net>
Message-ID: <1038894112.20040925221426 [at] TCON.net>
Subject: An Italian Job needed

Hello All!

I have a customer interesting in purchasing at least one of the
following luminaires:

INSEGUIPERSONE 575
POWER 115v  60Hz
LAMP HMI  575w  G5
FUSE 10A
SOCKET SFC 10-4
MADE IN ITALY   PROEL LIGHTING

Hey.  I don't editthe information, I just write down what the guy was
reading from the tag on the machine as he delightedly hung by his
toenails in the projection booth.

Kindly advise a purchasing souce.  Inasmuch I'm a dealer, I'd prefer
buying from the guy that brings them in from Italy rather than the
third middle man down, thank you.

Best regards,
 Frank E. Merrill
 MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT
 Established 1946
 Indianapolis  
 317: 255 4666

 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v3.0
          mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net



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From: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <199.2ee27cfc.2e879621 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:48:49 EDT
Subject: Re:  Re: No light Flourescent Lights
Cc: psyd [at] cox.net

In a message dated 9/25/4 1:52:04 PM, psyd [at] cox.net wrote:
<<Never did do the research, but the lamps worked after I cleaned them, so I 
didn't much care why.>>

Ya made the "Jeannie" in it very happy! <<VBG!>>

Deepest hanks to whom ever posted about the grounding problem with 
flourescents. We'd been having trouble with the fixture in our bathroom for about a 
month - sometimes it would come on OK, sometimes flicker. I tried touching the 
lamp and dusted it with a dry cloth and nothing happened. I pushed the GFCI reset 
botton on the wall circuit (the entire bathroom is one circuit AFAIK) and the 
thing popped on. Gonna have a better electrician than I come look at it, but 
I can at least brush my teeth in light now!

Kristi

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:08:32 -0400
Subject: Re: An Italian Job needed
From: John McKernon <stagecraft2004 [at] mckernon.com>
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> INSEGUIPERSONE 575
> POWER 115v  60Hz
> LAMP HMI  575w  G5
> FUSE 10A
> SOCKET SFC 10-4
> MADE IN ITALY   PROEL LIGHTING

Proel Lighting has a web site (www.proelgroup.it), but unless you speak
Italian you'll probably be as lost as I was looking at it.

In any event, it looks like "Inseguipersone" is a descriptive term for a
category of light, not a particular model.

Someone on the list must have a copy of Theatre Words, that probably has a
translation for it.

Good luck!

- John McKernon


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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:34:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: June Abernathy <jea00321 [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Juliat Followspots

I have used a couple of different types of Juliats -
the Margo and the larger Aramis in a couple of
configurations. Lighting designers that I've talked to
all love them, for several good reasons. For one
thing, they give an incandescent light, which blends
with stage lighting well. They are light and easy to
carry, and they typically use a camera tripod, which
is also easier to fold and transport than most
standard stands. They have a place where you can
insert a frost that you can flip in and out without
sacrificing a color frame. Several models have modular
slots in the back that allow you to insert accessories
like a gobo or even a twinspin or lobsterscope type
deal. 

On the other hand, there are drawbacks. They have
expendable reflectors, which, in my admittedly limited
experience, don't last very long, and must be
replaced. The time and expense must be considered.

The stands are light and easy to move, but sometimes
too light, and they tend to rock or slide.

The wiring is European, so make sure of your colors
before you throw a connector on there. Some models can
be set for either 110 or 220 operation, and you need
to be careful when you rearrange your wiring for that.

The color frames are at the front of the lamp, and
they either roll out of the lamp to one side, or drop
down below the lamp housing when not in use, depending
on the model you are using, which can create some
issues with space. The frames themselves are larger
than the frames used by a Supertrouper or a Lycian
spot, and yet, the handles for the color are about
half the size of these other models. What does that
mean? Well, you have to push down hard, and
particularly since you're at the nose of the lamp,
it's quite difficult to do this without moving the
lamp, unless your other hand is free to steady it. So,
your other hand can't be busy following somebody, or
irising, or dousing, or anything.

Speaking of these other controls, the douser on most
of the models that I've seen have been a little knob
on the side of the unit, near the yoke. On the Margo,
it was so near the yoke that if the lamp is depressed
at all (and it usually is) the douser will actually go
behind the yoke, and be impossible to reach. Also, it
was behind the carry bar on the side of the lamp,
making it that much more awkward to get to. The little
knob itself was perfectly round with no pointer or
indicator, making it hard to mark intensities. 

On the Artemis, you either have a similar knob, or a
slider, which is actually an electronic douser,
meaning that it has a bit of lag time in responding
that you have to get used to. This model had a
blackout button at the bottom of the slide, and a bump
to full button at the top of the slide. These were
painfully easy to hit, and you almost never wanted to.
The slider, BTW, is still located on the side by the
yoke.

The iris is a lever handle, toward the back of the
lamp on the side.

This arrangement makes it very difficult to do any two
(much less three) operations (iris, douse, color
change) at one time - or, frankly, to do any of these
operations and follow at the same time. And, in many
of the shows I've done, it is really necessary to be
able to do several of these things simultaneously.

None of this is insurmountable, of course. If you have
time to get used to them, and maybe make a few simple
modifications, they can be great. If you have a bunch
of different operators all the time, you might want to
beware the learning curve. 

Personally, I bought a new pointed indicator for my
douser on the Margo, and pulled the front carry bar
off to reach it. On the electronic Artemis, I covered
the bump buttons on the electronic douser with little
plastic box lids to prevent hitting them accidentally.
For the stands, I did what camera guys do - I bought a
sandbag and attached it to the chains of the stand for
stability. And, in every stop where I used the
Juliats, I tried to give the guys extra time to get
familiar with the lights.

These lights can be great - but you should consider
the operational hassles as well as the light output
and the price when you are lamp shopping. The best
light in the world can look like crap if the operator
is in hell.

FWIW -

June Abernathy
IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL)
FOH Electrician
The Lion King National Tour (Gazelle)



		
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:39:17 -0400
From: Eddie Kramer <ESKramer [at] IEEE.org>
Subject: Re: An Italian Job needed

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 01:00:55 -0400
From: Eddie Kramer <ESKramer [at] IEEE.org>
Subject: Re: No light Flourescent Lights

On   9/25/04   MissWisc [at] aol.com   sent:

> I pushed the GFCI reset
>botton on the wall circuit (the entire bathroom is one circuit AFAIK) and the
>thing popped on. Gonna have a better electrician than I come look at it, but
>I can at least brush my teeth in light now!


Kristi -

DANGER

If the GFI triped (you pushed the reset button and got the light to work) it sounds like the GFI was put in wrong (hot and neutral are reversed), and it may not work right. (It's NOT working wright, if it was, the light wood not work at all)

The electricity in your bathroom is unsafe please go back to using it in the dark, and please, please do not use any hair driers in there untill the electrician can look at it. 


Eddie
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Eddie Kramer  IATSE #1     Member NEC Panel 15            

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