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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #173

 1. Re: Trying to unsubscribe
    by "Nigel Worsley" <nigle [at] dsl.pipex.com>
 2. Re: Fire as Stage Illumination
    by Richard Niederberg <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
 3. Re: Fake Snow
    by "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
 4. on da road
    by b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
 5. Re: Fake snow
    by "david kaplan" <dmkkaplan73 [at] hotmail.com>
 6. Radios
    by Tom Hull <thull [at] ccccd.edu>
 7. Re: Radios
    by "John Gibilisco" <johngib [at] cox.net>
 8. Re: Radios
    by "Fitch, Tracy" <tfitch [at] email.uncc.edu>
 9. Re: A Cautionary Tale
    by June Abernathy <jea00321 [at] yahoo.com>

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Message-ID: <160001c4b8f0$dec71f70$0c00a8c0 [at] Nigellaptop>
From: "Nigel Worsley" <nigle [at] dsl.pipex.com>
References: <list-4772497 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Trying to unsubscribe
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:10:13 +0100

Steve Larson wrote:
> on 10/22/04 10:53 AM, Bsapsis [at] aol.com at Bsapsis [at] aol.com wrote:
>> Help!  I'm drowning in electrons.
>
> Try thinking "positively".

Won't help, it will just attract more of them :-)

Nigel Worsley


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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 22:58:29 -0700
Subject: Re: Fire as Stage Illumination
Message-ID: <20041023.052914.3456.1.ladesigners [at] juno.com>
From: Richard Niederberg <ladesigners [at] juno.com>

Dear Frank,
        Lets not go there; we really don't know whose job duties were
supplemented to include espionage with funding under the Patriot Act.
There could very easily be an monitor essentially all e-mail traffic for
character strings that include the 'd' word that you used in the below
post.
/s/ Richard
 
> > Well, color me clueless.  All this time, and it never even 
> > occurred to me til now that Frank was a potential terrorist! ;)
 
> Well, I suppose I am. I know how to make a bomb, 
> and how to detonate it.
> Frank Wood

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From: "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
References: <list-4777158 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Fake Snow
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 08:23:58 -0500

I have seen/used fake ice in that form but not snow.  The fake is very wet,
ok in a glass or flower vase as cracked ice but on lose on stage.

Randy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathan Wills" <Jonathan [at] WillsLighting.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:21 PM
Subject: Fake Snow


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>
> I am hoping someone has heard of this. I have a customer who would like
some
> fake snow. Easy right, the stuff he wants is/heard about is in the form of
a
> powder and when wetted expands to look like snow. When the stuff dries out
> it returns to a powder form for storage. Anyone ever hear of anything like
> this?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jonathan Wills
> Wills Lighting and Stage
> www.WillsLighting.com
> 423.432.8082
>
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Message-ID: <20041023144825.17420.qmail [at] web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 07:48:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: on da road
In-Reply-To: <list-4780266 [at] prxy.net>

Hello all,
I am on the road with "The Best Little Whorehouse in
Texas". Since getting information,(let alone contact
information) is like molasses flowing uphill in
winter, I figured I would give a shout here. If any
one is getting the show and has any idea who I should
talk to at a particular venue could you please give me
a holler. 
Thanks,


=====
Brian Rice 
b_ricie [at] yahoo.com


		
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From: "david kaplan" <dmkkaplan73 [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Fake snow
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:25:55 -0400
Message-ID: <BAY101-F40V6mwNdeKB00005925 [at] hotmail.com>

<html><div style='background-color:'><P>John try this web address... I found it while looking for plastic snow and got interested.</P>
<P><A href="http://www.stevespanglerscience.com/experiment/00000044">http://www.stevespanglerscience.com/experiment/00000044</A></P>
<P><BR>&lt;&lt;&lt;I am hoping someone has heard of this. I have a customer who would like some<BR>fake snow. Easy right, the stuff he wants is/heard about is in the form of a<BR>powder and when wetted expands to look like snow. When the stuff dries out<BR>it returns to a powder form for storage. Anyone ever hear of anything like<BR>this?<BR><BR>Thank you,<BR><BR>Jonathan Wills<BR>Wills Lighting and Stage<BR>www.WillsLighting.com<BR>423.432.8082&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR></P>
<P>David Kaplan</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P></div></html>

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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:37:52 -0500
Subject: Radios
From: Tom Hull <thull [at] ccccd.edu>
Message-ID: <BD9FE500.EE3%thull [at] ccccd.edu>

Ladies and Gents,
I am looking at purchasing a new set of radios for our theatre space.  I am
interested in a multi channel radio or the like.  I would also like your
collected advice on what type of communication tools that you use.  I am
also interested if any of you use Nextel type phones with a two/+ radio
feature.  Ultimately I would love to purchase a dozen communicator badges,
but those aren't out just yet.

Thanks in Advance,
Tom Hull
Quad C Theatre


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From: "John Gibilisco" <johngib [at] cox.net>
References: <list-4781951 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Radios
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:30:54 -0500


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Hull" <thull [at] ccccd.edu>
Subject: Radios


> also interested if any of you use Nextel type phones with a two/+ radio
> feature.

I really enjoy the 2 way feature of Nextel phones. But I don't think they
are a solution for show situations. To use direct connect you must select a
user and send an "alert". That user would then recieve the audible or
vibrate alert, see who is connecting and choose to talk or ignore it all
together. So...... beep beep.... "Yes?"..... beep beep..... "Go cue"...not
so good. But they are really handy during the day when you are running
around the complex like a madman. No need for a big ass radio hanging on
your belt.

The second factor is money. Running a Nextel phone is expensive. We  use
them ( at our own expense) because paying for a bargan cell phone that won't
ring where you spend the majority of your life is a waste.  Nextel is the
only provider that does not drop coverage in my theater.  I have taken calls
in our basement dimmer room. The extra expense is worth it to me for the
comfort of knowing my family can reach me if there are problems.

John Gibilisco
Omaha Playhouse


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Subject: RE: Radios
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:39:30 -0400
Message-ID: <A01ABA2A211C644596549C5FF91C50E42804F3 [at] EXEVS02.its.uncc.edu>
From: "Fitch, Tracy" <tfitch [at] email.uncc.edu>

Actually, they are out if you have the budget....
http://www.vocera.com/products/documentation.shtm=20


--Tracy Fitch
TD, UNC Charlotte
LD, Everywhere Else

> Subject: Radios


> Ultimately I would love to purchase a dozen communicator badges,
> but those aren't out just yet.

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Message-ID: <20041024040457.31234.qmail [at] web14104.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:04:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: June Abernathy <jea00321 [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: A Cautionary Tale

Interesting to read Dave's description of the events.
New information for me included the fact that they
were apparently doing the event in some kind of
multi-use ballroom, not intended to be (at least
primarily) a performance space, which would explain
having a slippery floor that you worry about marking
up.

Also, that the technicians in question were not
trained professionals or employees of the PAC, but
college kids and others willing to work for
substandard wages. And, perhaps most importantly, that
no one from the PAC seemed to have any idea what was
going on in there.

You mention that in your PAC, you have no control over
who the groups that rent your facilities hire to do
their technical work. You seem to have some measure of
control, in that you can prevent someone from using a
house lift if you feel that they are not qualified. Is
that just in terms of who may use house equipment?

If they bring in their own equipment (or something
borrowed from another theater in town), then they can
do whatever they want? Do you not have any say in what
equipment they can bring in and use in your hall? Do
you have any regulations on what they can hang
overhead, for instance?

As you state, and I agree, people experienced with
using an A-frame ladder would have known better than
to lean too far, have someone up on a ladder with no
one footing it, or attach towels to the feet expressly
so that it would be more slippery. I'm just suprised
that your building doesn't have any oversight of what
your rental groups are doing. Do you have no liability
concerns there? How do you manage that?

I would think that even if you cannot dictate who they
hire, you would have some say in requiring whoever
they bring in to follow safe working practices, and
would have someone from the building detailed to
keeping an eye on their activities. I think that
unless your building comes up with some kind of
policies on these matters, they are setting themselves
up for a liability nightmare, and indeed, the
"cautionary tale" that this episode represents is
maybe less about how not to be an idiot with an
A-frame, and more about how some oversight and
regulation of rental groups in the facility might be a
really really good idea. 

If I were the IATSE BA in your area, I'd probably be
in the office trying to convince them that it would be
wise to contract the IA for all the stagework in the
hall rather than risk more incidents like this in the
future, with perhaps worse outcomes than a chipped
tooth.

June Abernathy
IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL)
FOH Electrician
The Lion King National Tour (Gazelle)


		
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