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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #215

 1. Color Coding Fixtures
    by Cosmo Catalano <Cosmo.A.Catalano [at] williams.edu>
 2. PAUL RICHARDSON/QVC is out of the office.
    by PAUL_RICHARDSON [at] qvc.com
 3. Angus of God
    by Joseph Champelli <champelli [at] knology.net>
 4. Re: Angus of God
    by "Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
 5. Re: Angus of God
    by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
 6. Re: Angus of God
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
 7. Re: Angus of God
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
 8. Re: Color Coding Fixtures
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
 9. Re: Angus of God
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
10. Re: Angus of God
    by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
11. Re: Angus of God
    by "Tony" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
12. Re: Angus of God
    by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
13. Sewing machine
    by "jknipple" <jknipple [at] howardcc.edu>
14. Re: Sewing machine
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
15. Re: portable fixtures
    by "Karl G. Ruling" <kruling [at] esta.org>
16. Re: portable fixtures
    by "Jonathan S. Deull" <jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com>
17. Re: Angus of God
    by "Tony" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
18. Re: Angus of God
    by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
19. Re: Color Coding Fixtures
    by Mick Alderson <alderson [at] uwosh.edu>
20. Re: Current Threads
    by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com
21. Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson)
    by MissWisc [at] aol.com
22. Luminaire
    by "Steve B." <sbmtbike [at] optonline.net>
23. Re: Fixtures & Luminaires
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
24. Re: Color Coding Fixtures
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
25. Re: Color Coding Fixtures
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
26. Re: Color Coding Fixtures
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
27. Re: Current Threads
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
28. Re: portable fixtures
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
29. Re: Fixtures & Luminaires
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
30. Re: Current Threads
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
31. Re: Fixtures & Luminaires
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
32. Re: Current Threads
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
33. Re: Current Threads
    by "Joe Golden" <Joe [at] elslights.com>
34. Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson)
    by John Bracewell <jbrace [at] lightlink.com>
35. Re: Current Threads
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
36. S4 Barrel Storage
    by "Randy Whitcomb" <rwhitco [at] comcast.net>
37. Re: Current Threads
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
38. Re: Luminaire / Instrument
    by "Matthew Breton" <theatricalmatt [at] hotmail.com>
39. Re: Current Threads
    by "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
40. Re: Current Threads
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
41. Re: S4 Barrel Storage
    by "Douglas McCracken" <dbasMcCracken [at] hawaii.rr.com>
42. Re: Current Threads
    by "Michael Feinberg" <michaelf [at] joyce.eng.yale.edu>
43. Re: Sewing machine
    by "Frank E. Merrill" <Lamplighter [at] TCON.net>
44. Re: S4 Barrel Storage
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
45. Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson)
    by "Tom Heemskerk" <tommy [at] etainternet.com>
46. Number the messages on the list
    by Michael Cook <mrcook [at] stmarys-ca.edu>
47. Re: Number the messages on the list
    by Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
48. Re: portable fixtures
    by Andy Ciddor <aciddor [at] kilowatt.com.au>
49. Re: High density plastic glides
    by MPTecDir [at] aol.com
50. Re: Number the messages on the list
    by Jared Johnson <zitronenesis [at] gmail.com>
51. Work Boot Recommendations....
    by "qstage" <qstage [at] cox.net>
52. Re: Work Boot Recommendations....
    by Mat Goebel <mgoebel [at] gmail.com>
53. Re: Number the messages on the list
    by MissWisc [at] aol.com
54. Re: Number the messages on the list
    by Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
55. Re: Work Boot Recommendations....
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
56. Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson)
    by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>

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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 07:22:46 -0500
From: Cosmo Catalano <Cosmo.A.Catalano [at] williams.edu>
Subject: Color Coding Fixtures
In-reply-to: <list-6902633 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <0A58715B-4526-11D9-AE89-000D936C1414 [at] williams.edu>
References: <list-6902633 [at] prxy.net>

To continue to whip this poor dead  horse, we use a piece of velcro 
with the appropriate number on it on the yoke of the units.  We have 
many more lens tubes than bodies, so part of prepping the hang is to 
assemble the correct number of lensed bodies.  This does not solve the 
problem of seeing what tube is in the unit from the deck after it is 
hung, and requires some diligence in making sure to swap the velcro 
when the tube is changed.  I like the idea of painting the gel holder 
area a specific color, except when the units will be visible to the 
audience.

With apologies to Paul,

Later's

Cosmo

"Who broke my projector?" asked Tom, bellowing and howling.


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Subject: PAUL RICHARDSON/QVC is out of the office.
From: PAUL_RICHARDSON [at] qvc.com
Message-ID: <OF8E629C09.DB4F2888-ON85256F5F.0048B4E1-85256F5F.0048B4E3 [at] qvc.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 08:14:08 -0500

I will be out of the office starting  12/03/2004 and will not return until
12/06/2004.

 In my absence, please contact Chuck Grill or Lou Venuto at 6908 to take
care of your live show needs.  Scheduling questions should be refered to
Chuck Lester at 1546.  I will respond to any other emails as soon as I
return.  Thanks--



------------------------------

From:     Joseph Champelli <champelli [at] knology.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 08:33:37 -0500
Reply-To:<champelli [at] knology.net>
Subject: Angus of God
Message-ID: <auto-000006917892 [at] prxy.net>

Does anyone have available or know of a place to rent the blood=
 effect for Agnes of God?


Joseph Champelli
University of Tennessee Department of Theatre - Entertainment=
 Technology
865.974.7069 office 702.429.5859 cell 775.206.6078 fax
champelli [at] knology.net - home                             =
 jchampel [at] utk.edu - office




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Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE390241F66F9 [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
From: "Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
Subject: RE: Angus of God
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 07:54:21 -0600 

Try the slaughter house <<rim shot>> <<cymbal>> 

I couldn't resist...see subject line!

I crack me up!

Pat Immel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Champelli [mailto:champelli [at] knology.net] 
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:34 AM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Angus of God
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Does anyone have available or know of a place to rent the 
> blood effect for Agnes of God?
> 
> 
> Joseph Champelli
> University of Tennessee Department of Theatre - Entertainment 
> Technology
> 865.974.7069 office 702.429.5859 cell 775.206.6078 fax
> champelli [at] knology.net - home                              
> jchampel [at] utk.edu - office
> 
> 
> 

------------------------------

From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Angus of God
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 06:42:40 -0800
Message-ID: <004301c4d946$57b6c370$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer>
In-reply-to: <list-6920073 [at] prxy.net>

ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY HAGIOGRAPHY
TO KNOW. DOOM

====================================================
A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public
Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel -
Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc.    April 4, 5, 6,
2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana

Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops
====================================================
Risk International & Associates, Inc.  -  Dedicated to making the world
a healthier & safer place.
Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com
====================================================
International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA)  -
Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts.
Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org
====================================================
960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767    Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961
====================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of
Immel,Patrick
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 5:54 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Angus of God

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Try the slaughter house <<rim shot>> <<cymbal>> 

I couldn't resist...see subject line!

I crack me up!

Pat Immel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Champelli [mailto:champelli [at] knology.net] 
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:34 AM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Angus of God
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Does anyone have available or know of a place to rent the 
> blood effect for Agnes of God?
> 
> 
> Joseph Champelli
> University of Tennessee Department of Theatre - Entertainment 
> Technology
> 865.974.7069 office 702.429.5859 cell 775.206.6078 fax
> champelli [at] knology.net - home                              
> jchampel [at] utk.edu - office
> 
> 
> 


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Message-ID: <000401c4d947$9dbbea20$0600000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-6924941 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Angus of God
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 06:51:47 -0800

That was a wonderful laugh, first thing in the morning.  Visions of a new 
musical, with cows in habits.....

           -- Jon Ares
Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts
www.hevanet.com/acreative
http://www.wlhs.wlwv.k12.or.us/aresj/theatre/index.htm 


------------------------------

From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <bd.4c374b30.2ee1d77f [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:51:43 EST
Subject: Re: Angus of God


In a message dated 12/3/04 9:43:24 AM, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net writes:

>ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY HAGIOGRAPHY
>TO KNOW. DOOM


Anges ? ? ? ? ? ? 

Anges in America ? 


very best,

Keith Arsenault


------------------------------

Subject: RE: Color Coding Fixtures
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:54:22 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A74ADAE [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> I like the idea of painting the gel holder=20
> area a specific color, except when the units will be visible to the=20
> audience.

My philosophy on this sort of thing (audience visibility) is that if the
audience members are paying attention to the colors on the instruments
or the cables I hang in the air, then there's lots more important issues
with the show than colored instruments and cables!

I have tried coloring the gel frame holder before, but with results that
were less satisfying (primarily because of the "instruments standing on
the deck" factor) than I had hoped, so in reading all of this I'm
thinking now of doing some colored tape around the lens tube itself; it
gives almost 360 degrees of visibility, and if I locate the tape down at
the "crease" where the barrel flares out I won't interfere with barrel
travel.  And it'll mean one piece of tape will work for both floor and
when hung, and will automatically travel with the tubes...

------------------------------

Subject: RE: Angus of God
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:58:43 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A74ADB0 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> Subject: Re: Angus of God

> That was a wonderful laugh, first thing in the morning. =20
> Visions of a new=20
> musical, with cows in habits.....

Yes...been a while since I've chuckled like that at this time of day!

------------------------------

From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Angus of God
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 07:09:31 -0800
Message-ID: <000301c4d94a$181cbb80$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer>
In-Reply-To: <list-6926001 [at] prxy.net>

Agnes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. doom

====================================================
A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public
Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel -
Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc.    April 4, 5, 6,
2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana

Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops
====================================================
Risk International & Associates, Inc.  -  Dedicated to making the world
a healthier & safer place.
Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com
====================================================
International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA)  -
Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts.
Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org
====================================================
960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767    Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961
====================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of
IAEG [at] aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:52 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Angus of God

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------


In a message dated 12/3/04 9:43:24 AM, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net writes:

>ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY
HAGIOGRAPHY
>TO KNOW. DOOM


Anges ? ? ? ? ? ? 

Anges in America ? 


very best,

Keith Arsenault


------------------------------

Message-ID: <021c01c4d94d$35e75a00$0800000a [at] Tony>
From: "Tony" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
References: <list-6927786 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Angus of God
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:31:47 -0000

GLOVES OFF WHEN TYPING!!!

8-)))

Ynot


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: Angus of God


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Agnes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. doom
> 
> ====================================================
> A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public
> Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel -
> Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc.    April 4, 5, 6,
> 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana
> 
> Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops
> ====================================================
> Risk International & Associates, Inc.  -  Dedicated to making the world
> a healthier & safer place.
> Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com
> ====================================================
> International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA)  -
> Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts.
> Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org
> ====================================================
> 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767    Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961
> ====================================================
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of
> IAEG [at] aol.com
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:52 AM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: Angus of God
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/3/04 9:43:24 AM, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net writes:
> 
> >ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY
> HAGIOGRAPHY
> >TO KNOW. DOOM
> 
> 
> Anges ? ? ? ? ? ? 
> 
> Anges in America ? 
> 
> 
> very best,
> 
> Keith Arsenault
> 
> 


------------------------------

From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Angus of God
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 07:42:06 -0800
Message-ID: <000b01c4d94e$a51108d0$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer>
In-Reply-To: <list-6930107 [at] prxy.net>

Tony, did you get my latest from Laura Koch? This morning. doom

====================================================
A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public
Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel -
Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc.    April 4, 5, 6,
2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana

Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops
====================================================
Risk International & Associates, Inc.  -  Dedicated to making the world
a healthier & safer place.
Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com
====================================================
International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA)  -
Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts.
Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org
====================================================
960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767    Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961
====================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:32 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Angus of God

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

GLOVES OFF WHEN TYPING!!!

8-)))

Ynot


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: Angus of God


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Agnes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. doom
> 
> ====================================================
> A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public
> Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel -
> Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc.    April 4, 5, 6,
> 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana
> 
> Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops
> ====================================================
> Risk International & Associates, Inc.  -  Dedicated to making the
world
> a healthier & safer place.
> Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com
> ====================================================
> International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA)
-
> Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts.
> Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org
> ====================================================
> 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767    Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961
> ====================================================
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of
> IAEG [at] aol.com
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:52 AM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: Angus of God
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/3/04 9:43:24 AM, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net
writes:
> 
> >ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY
> HAGIOGRAPHY
> >TO KNOW. DOOM
> 
> 
> Anges ? ? ? ? ? ? 
> 
> Anges in America ? 
> 
> 
> very best,
> 
> Keith Arsenault
> 
> 


------------------------------

Subject: Sewing machine
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:52:26 -0500
Message-ID: <AA692554B034A84D977E17CD1E1C1569014CBAB9 [at] ex2000.hccnet.howardcc.edu>
From: "jknipple" <jknipple [at] howardcc.edu>

Just wanted some opinions on sewing machines. We recently got a LOT of =
curtain fabric (velour, canvas, etc), but don't have a sewing machine. =
We don't usually have people skilled at sewing, so I've been doing a lot =
of training on a borrowed machine. Anyone have an opinion on what a =
good, cost effective sewing machine for heavy duty work by novice sewers =
would be?

James Knipple
=A0
Technical Director
REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage
Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20
- www.howardcc.edu/studentarts
jknipple [at] howardcc.edu
410-772-4451



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Message-ID: <BAY16-F44BC2763F2AB8AA5B3491C2B10 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-6932009 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Sewing machine
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:00:57 -0500

I have Juki DNU-1541 that I am very pleased with.  1/2 HP motor will sew 
through anything.  Cost is around $1,750 as I recall.

Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)



>---------------------------------------------------
>
>Just wanted some opinions on sewing machines. We recently got a LOT of 
>curtain fabric (velour, canvas, etc), but don't have a sewing machine. We 
>don't usually have people skilled at sewing, so I've been doing a lot of 
>training on a borrowed machine. Anyone have an opinion on what a good, cost 
>effective sewing machine for heavy duty work by novice sewers would be?
>
>James Knipple
>
>Technical Director
>REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage
>Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College
>- www.howardcc.edu/studentarts
>jknipple [at] howardcc.edu
>410-772-4451
>
>



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From: "Karl G. Ruling" <kruling [at] esta.org>
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:06:49 -0500
Subject: Re: portable fixtures
Reply-to: kruling [at] esta.org
Message-ID: <41B048C9.21834.764F6A [at] localhost>
In-reply-to: <list-6902633 [at] prxy.net>

> 
> So therefore since stage lighting instruments are all portable what
> would they be called? 

"Luminaires" if they put out light to illuminate something. If you 
weld it in place so it never moves, it'll still be a luminaire if it 
still puts out light to illuminate something. "Fixture" only tells 
you about the mounting; it doesn't tell you what a thing does. It 
doesn't even tell you that the thing has anything to do with 
lighting; a urinal (unless it's portable) is a "fixture." It's a 
plumbing fixture, but it's a fixture.

> Or because they are temporarily attached to a structure by
> a tee or c-clamp are they considered fastened in place?

The c-clamp is a temporary fastening. You're not serious are you, or 
are you really suggesting that a luminaire should be a "fixture" when 
fastened to a pipe by a c-clamp, but "not a fixture" when an 
electrician unfastens it and carries it the the storage rack, and 
which point it becomes a "fixture" again, but only if the c-clamp is 
tightened on the rack? If that's the case, who cares if it's "a 
fixture" or not? This is not useful information--which was exactly my 
original point.


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From: "Jonathan S. Deull" <jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com>
Subject: RE: portable fixtures
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:44:33 -0500
In-reply-to: <list-6933277 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000006936877 [at] prxy.net>


> So therefore since stage lighting instruments are all portable what
> would they be called?


Just an ignorant question from out of the loop: some of us grew up calling
them "instruments."  Is that term dead?

Jonathan Deull



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Message-ID: <023301c4d957$6bb4f520$0800000a [at] Tony>
From: "Tony" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
References: <list-6930952 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Angus of God
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:44:52 -0000

Yep - haven't you seen my reply to yours?

TD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Angus of God


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Tony, did you get my latest from Laura Koch? This morning. doom
> 
> ====================================================
> A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public
> Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel -
> Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc.    April 4, 5, 6,
> 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana
> 
> Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops
> ====================================================
> Risk International & Associates, Inc.  -  Dedicated to making the world
> a healthier & safer place.
> Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com
> ====================================================
> International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA)  -
> Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts.
> Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org
> ====================================================
> 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767    Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961
> ====================================================
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Tony
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:32 AM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: Angus of God
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> GLOVES OFF WHEN TYPING!!!
> 
> 8-)))
> 
> Ynot
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Angus of God
> 
> 
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Agnes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. doom
> > 
> > ====================================================
> > A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public
> > Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel -
> > Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc.    April 4, 5, 6,
> > 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana
> > 
> > Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops
> > ====================================================
> > Risk International & Associates, Inc.  -  Dedicated to making the
> world
> > a healthier & safer place.
> > Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com
> > ====================================================
> > International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA)
> -
> > Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts.
> > Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org
> > ====================================================
> > 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767    Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961
> > ====================================================
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of
> > IAEG [at] aol.com
> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:52 AM
> > To: Stagecraft
> > Subject: Re: Angus of God
> > 
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 12/3/04 9:43:24 AM, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net
> writes:
> > 
> > >ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY
> > HAGIOGRAPHY
> > >TO KNOW. DOOM
> > 
> > 
> > Anges ? ? ? ? ? ? 
> > 
> > Anges in America ? 
> > 
> > 
> > very best,
> > 
> > Keith Arsenault
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


------------------------------

From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Angus of God
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 08:51:42 -0800
Message-ID: <000e01c4d958$5fe5ed70$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer>
In-reply-to: <list-6936969 [at] prxy.net>

Now, I have. Thanks. doom

====================================================
A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public
Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel -
Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc.    April 4, 5, 6,
2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana

Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops
====================================================
Risk International & Associates, Inc.  -  Dedicated to making the world
a healthier & safer place.
Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com
====================================================
International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA)  -
Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts.
Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org
====================================================
960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767    Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961
====================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:45 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Angus of God

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Yep - haven't you seen my reply to yours?

TD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Angus of God


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Tony, did you get my latest from Laura Koch? This morning. doom
> 
> ====================================================
> A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public
> Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel -
> Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc.    April 4, 5, 6,
> 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana
> 
> Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops
> ====================================================
> Risk International & Associates, Inc.  -  Dedicated to making the
world
> a healthier & safer place.
> Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com
> ====================================================
> International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA)
-
> Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts.
> Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org
> ====================================================
> 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767    Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961
> ====================================================
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Tony
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:32 AM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: Angus of God
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> GLOVES OFF WHEN TYPING!!!
> 
> 8-)))
> 
> Ynot
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Angus of God
> 
> 
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Agnes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. doom
> > 
> > ====================================================
> > A Masters Workshop for Entertainment Technicians, Riggers, Public
> > Assembly Technicians, and Educational Performing Arts Personnel -
> > Sponsored by Risk International & Associates, Inc.    April 4, 5, 6,
> > 2005 at ELCO Performing Arts Center, Elkhart, Indiana
> > 
> > Brochure & Registration Form available at: www.riskit.com/workshops
> > ====================================================
> > Risk International & Associates, Inc.  -  Dedicated to making the
> world
> > a healthier & safer place.
> > Website: www.riskit.com E-mail: rdavidson [at] riskit.com
> > ====================================================
> > International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association
(ISETSA)
> -
> > Dedicated to the protection of every student in the performing arts.
> > Website: www.isetsa.org E-mail: info [at] isetsa.org
> > ====================================================
> > 960 E. Bonita #158, Pomona, CA 91767    Phone/Fax: (909) 625-5961
> > ====================================================
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of
> > IAEG [at] aol.com
> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:52 AM
> > To: Stagecraft
> > Subject: Re: Angus of God
> > 
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 12/3/04 9:43:24 AM, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net
> writes:
> > 
> > >ANGES NOT ANGUS OF GOD. OH GOLLY. I SHALL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY
> > HAGIOGRAPHY
> > >TO KNOW. DOOM
> > 
> > 
> > Anges ? ? ? ? ? ? 
> > 
> > Anges in America ? 
> > 
> > 
> > very best,
> > 
> > Keith Arsenault
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:02:32 -0600
From: Mick Alderson <alderson [at] uwosh.edu>
Subject: RE: Color Coding Fixtures
Message-id: <v04020a00bdd64841bdbd [at] [141.233.131.246]>

"Jeffrey E. Salzberg" wrote:

>> In your circumstance, I understand now the coding of the
>> yokes.  FWIW, I'd still only do it with some sort of
>> reservations (or just do the three 50s), since there's always
>> room for inventory expansion... <g>
>
>Even in that case, I'd code the tubes rather than the yokes.
>Occasionally, one might want to replace an existing 50-degree with a 36
>(or vice versa); in that case it's much easier to swap a barrel than an
>entire fixture.

This whole thread is a prime example of why there is no one "right" answer
to any question (and how we all like to argue! ;-).

Different situations require different solutions. Use what works for you.

In my case, I store my instruments "in place" between shows, so marking the
yokes makes it easier to identify them from behind when moving them around
during hang. The number of lens trains and the number of bodies I have are
the same, so I never remove them. I mark with colored electrical tape,
which is easily removed if necessary.

In a different situation I'd do something different. It makes no sense to
me to follow a "standard" that doesn't work for you. I think my students
are clever enough to learn a new system when they go elsewhere. They've
learned mine!

Mick Alderson
TD, Fredric March Theatre
University of Wisconsin Oshkosh

alderson [at] uwosh.edu

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Subject: Re: Current Threads
Message-ID: <OFA16EEC59.2C4E4329-ON85256F5F.005A7FBE-85256F5F.005D03BD [at] sarasotagov.com>
From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:55:59 -0500


Anyone else intrigued by one thread regarding color coding and another re:
color blind casting? I once replaced a color blind L.D. which is a pretty
interesting thought. As Ludwig Von B. was eventually deaf this guy was able
to do a good job requiring only very careful numbering on gels.

Directors may be color blind for casting but not designers. I've worked
with African-Americans who happily refer to Rosco 99 as: "Flesh Chocolate",
R63 does terrible things to Asian skin tones and I once had a nightmare on
a production of 'THE BEGGARS OPERA': The director wanted the actor who
delivered a long prologue and was Caucasian, pale and bald, in a single
open white special - the guy looked dead. I put in a piece of flesh pink
and he looked fine. Next day we started a run thru and he was beet red, it
was a small venue, I knew he wasn't wearing make up so we pulled the pink
and he looked OK. That night at dress he looked dead again, the director,
never a calm soul to begin with, was getting somewhat hot with me
personally wanting to know why I kept changing the color so I went to see
the actor. As it happened he suffered from periodic high blood pressure,
when he took his meds he remained pale but when he missed he walked onstage
red as a beet. We worked out a timetable which stage management kept him to
and the show went well although that director always claimed I'd brought
him new meaning to the word "dim".

Marty Petlock




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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 12:11:19 -0500
From: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Subject: Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson)
Message-ID: <2F641523.4C1C4F08.007B9F2A [at] aol.com>

Bernina 1008 and Kenmore are two names that have been discussed as good choices for novice sewers. There is an extensive discussion going on bout this on the costumer's list. Subscribe: costumeinfo-subscribe [at] yahoogroups.com

Other factors discussed include availablilty of part and service in your area. 

Kristi

P.S.And for those of you who aren't well versed in Latin or Catholic history... Agnus (Agnes) is "lamb" and Agnus Dei = lamb of God. 





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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 12:13:33 -0500
From: "Steve B." <sbmtbike [at] optonline.net>
Subject: Luminaire
Message-id: <002901c4d95b$6b6f63d0$6401a8c0 [at] SBFF>
References: <list-6936878 [at] prxy.net>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathan S. Deull" <jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com>

> Just an ignorant question from out of the loop: some of us grew up calling
> them "instruments."  Is that term dead?

Jeez.....

Karl has ruled and they shall be called "Luminaires".  Can we call this a 
Ruling by Karl ?.

It is not to be called an "Instrument", as that term is used, such as 
"Instrument of Death", though a Luminaire sans safety cable might then 
qualify - remember that "The c-clamp is a temporary fastening".  Sometimes 
too temporary.

Or it might be confused with a "Surgical Instrument", which is descriptive 
enough.  Maybe "Lighting Fixture" would be allowed.  Gets confusing though 
as you might need the Surgical Instrument to repair the damage caused by the 
Lighting Instrument.  And us electricians are already confused thinking that 
a hammer is a "Surgical Instrument".

I like "Luminaire".  Has a French feel to it.  Might not go over well in the 
Red states though.  Perhaps dropping the "e" at the end and making it 
"Luminair" might work.  Drives the Brits nuts though, as we already 
mis-spell all sorts of their words.  Such as "favour", and "neighbour".

Hell, I'm 'gonna keep calling it a Unit.  Easy to spell..

Steve "Trying to be Andy Rooney" Bailey
Brooklyn College

P.S. I'm off today and have too much time on my hands....  Time to 
re-commision the snow blower.






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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <e8.7beaaba.2ee204c3 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:04:51 EST
Subject: Re: Fixtures & Luminaires

In a message dated 03/12/04 03:14:12 GMT Standard Time, 
rcarovillano [at] verizon.net writes:

> "Things that are
>  >fastened in place are fixtures; things that are portable aren't"
>  
>  So therefore since stage lighting instruments are all portable what would 
>  they be called? Or because they are temporarily attached to a structure by 
a 
> 
>  tee or c-clamp are they considered fastened in place?

"Fixtures" are connected to the building wiring systems solidly. Hard wired.

"Portable Appliances", and this includes anything from the stage lighting to 
an electric kettle, find their power from various outlets, ususlly hard wired. 
In the UK at least, these are required to undergo a Purtable Appliance Test 
(PAT) from time to time. This involves a visual check of the appliance cable 
and connectors, including the security of the cable clamps, of the earth bond, 
at 25A, when applicable, an insulation test, a leakage current test, a load 
test, and possibility a 2.5KV flash test. For double insulated equipment the 
integrity of the double insulation envelope is checked at 1.5KV. There are devices 
which carry out all these tests, with pass/fail displays, and more elaborate 
ones which display all the parameters. When it has been done, the tester can 
sign it off. Normally, these tests are done annually, and after any service or 
modification.

They can't be done by Joe Soap. I ran the outfit which maintained the 
lighting gear for the BBC's Film Department for some time, and I'm a qualified and 
experienced Engineer. Some of the things I found would make your hair curl.

Initially, we thought it another big nuisance wished on us by the Health and 
Safety Executive (=OHSA). But, after some of the things we found, I wonder how 
many lives we saved, and how many fires we prevented.

It wasn't the most interesting job I did for the BBC. I'm an electronics 
specialist, and that is the trade I prefer to ply. But, with hindsight, it may 
have been the most valuable. Saving ONE life is worth more than building a studio 
centre. I shall never know.


Frank Wood

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <19a.2c7c67d0.2ee2076b [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:16:11 EST
Subject: Re: Color Coding Fixtures

In a message dated 03/12/04 12:20:40 GMT Standard Time, 
Cosmo.A.Catalano [at] williams.edu writes:

> To continue to whip this poor dead  horse, we use a piece of velcro 
>  with the appropriate number on it on the yoke of the units.  We have 
>  many more lens tubes than bodies, so part of prepping the hang is to 
>  assemble the correct number of lensed bodies.  This does not solve the 
>  problem of seeing what tube is in the unit from the deck after it is 
>  hung, and requires some diligence in making sure to swap the velcro 
>  when the tube is changed.  I like the idea of painting the gel holder 
>  area a specific color, except when the units will be visible to the 
>  audience.

This thread has run and run. And, from the UK, I don't see the need for it. 
Well I do, in the way you work. We use a lot of Varifocal lanterns, where the 
beam angle is, within the limits of the luminaire, what you tell it to be. It's 
a built-in function of the luminaire, and is set at focus time. This may mean 
that this is longer, although I doubt it.

If you are after the optimum optical efficency, fixed focus luminaires are 
better. How often is this true?


Frank Wood

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <8d.1b513284.2ee207e2 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:18:10 EST
Subject: Re: Color Coding Fixtures

In a message dated 03/12/04 14:55:07 GMT Standard Time, pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu 
writes:

> My philosophy on this sort of thing (audience visibility) is that if the
>  audience members are paying attention to the colors on the instruments
>  or the cables I hang in the air, then there's lots more important issues
>  with the show than colored instruments and cables!



Frank Wood

------------------------------

From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <46.5de6a3cc.2ee208bd [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:21:49 EST
Subject: Re: Color Coding Fixtures

In a message dated 03/12/04 14:55:07 GMT Standard Time, pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu 
writes:

> My philosophy on this sort of thing (audience visibility) is that if the
>  audience members are paying attention to the colors on the instruments
>  or the cables I hang in the air, then there's lots more important issues
>  with the show than colored instruments and cables!

First, sorry for the spurious post. Now to the meat.

Full agreement. If you except visiting lighting designers, if the audience is 
looking at the lighting rig, there is something wrong.


Frank Wood

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Subject: RE: Current Threads
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:24:19 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A74ADB3 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> Anyone else intrigued by one thread regarding color coding=20
> and another re: color blind casting?=20

To be honest, I actually did that at my last venue...along with
color-coding the cables, I also painted on stenciled numbers with the
lengths in black in case there were any color-blind crew.  As I now work
at an all-woman's college (and the fact that color-blindness in women is
very rare), that's not really a consideration for me any more.

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <15d.454fed9a.2ee20ab8 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:30:16 EST
Subject: Re: portable fixtures

In a message dated 03/12/04 16:45:43 GMT Standard Time, 
jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com writes:

> > So therefore since stage lighting instruments are all portable what
>  > would they be called?

Portable Appliances. Luminaires is the preferred term. It depends on whether 
you are talking about their function or not.
>  
>  
>  Just an ignorant question from out of the loop: some of us grew up calling
>  them "instruments."  Is that term dead?

I don't know. I think, but may well be wrong, that this term was coined by 
Adolphe Appia, or someone else of that period.

Frank Wood

------------------------------

Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Fixtures & Luminaires
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:40:25 -0500
Message-ID: <002201c4d967$8de96a80$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-6943636 [at] prxy.net>


 
> >  So therefore since stage lighting instruments are all 
> portable what 
> > would
> >  they be called?

It doesn't matter, as long as the lens tubes are color-coded correctly.

<grin>


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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <a9.67fd300d.2ee20dc5 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:43:17 EST
Subject: Re: Current Threads

In a message dated 03/12/04 16:54:57 GMT Standard Time, 
Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com writes:

> Anyone else intrigued by one thread regarding color coding and another re:
>  color blind casting? I once replaced a color blind L.D. which is a pretty
>  interesting thought. As Ludwig Von B. was eventually deaf this guy was able
>  to do a good job requiring only very careful numbering on gels.

By the colour blind casting, yes. I assume that this is not about the 
black/white actors. If it is, I have no view.

But I have worked, and sailed, with a seriously red-green colour-blind 
director. Having made sure that there was someone on watch with him, the sailing was 
no problem. In the theatre, he trusted me.

A colour-blind LD is a big no-no. While I don't value colours much, they have 
their places.

Frank Wood

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <12d.50eca2de.2ee21109 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:57:13 EST
Subject: Re: Fixtures & Luminaires

In a message dated 03/12/04 18:41:26 GMT Standard Time, 
stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com writes:

> > >  So therefore since stage lighting instruments are all 
>  > portable what 
>  > > would
>  > >  they be called?

Luminaires is the most generally acceptable term, and the most precise..




Frank Wood

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Message-ID: <003901c4d96a$35561050$0600000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-6945340 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Current Threads
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:59:25 -0800

> To be honest, I actually did that at my last venue...along with
> color-coding the cables, I also painted on stenciled numbers with the
> lengths in black in case there were any color-blind crew.  


I've started stenciling and color-coding my crew.

(Is this thread dead yet?)

    -- Jon Ares
Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts
www.hevanet.com/acreative 
http://www.wlhs.wlwv.k12.or.us/aresj/theatre/index.htm

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Subject: RE: Current Threads
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:02:04 -0800
Message-ID: <FCDE18CF571244479E0A078AE596BADC9A7C41 [at] els02.elslights.com>
From: "Joe Golden" <Joe [at] elslights.com>

I prefer colored socks.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Ares [mailto:jonares [at] hevanet.com]=20
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:59 AM
> To: Stagecraft

> I've started stenciling and color-coding my crew.
>=20
> (Is this thread dead yet?)

no

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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:04:46 -0500
From: John Bracewell <jbrace [at] lightlink.com>
Subject: Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson)
In-reply-to: <list-6939199 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <5.2.0.9.0.20041203140408.00bbb1a8 [at] pop.lightlink.com>


>P.S.And for those of you who aren't well versed in Latin or Catholic 
>history... Agnus (Agnes) is "lamb" and Agnus Dei = lamb of God.

Miserere nobis!

--JLB 


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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:13:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Current Threads
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BDD62512.1B80%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-6948576 [at] prxy.net>

on 12/3/04 2:02 PM, Joe Golden at Joe [at] elslights.com wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> I prefer colored socks.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jon Ares [mailto:jonares [at] hevanet.com]
>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:59 AM
>> To: Stagecraft
> 
>> I've started stenciling and color-coding my crew.
>> 
>> (Is this thread dead yet?)
> 
> no


OK.  I've told this story before but, given the current thread, it's worth
repeating.

Back in '76 or so, Pete Feller, SR. moved his shop from the Bronx to
Newburgh NY.  At that point he sold the various departments of the shop
(Iron, rough carpentry, props, etc.) to the various department heads.  In
Newburgh they all worked in the same really big airplane hanger.  As you can
imagine, things started to disappear on a regular basis so people started
color coding their supplies and equipment.  Doc, who ran the iron shop
painted all of his stuff blue.  And I do mean "all" of his stuff.  When
Rudy, his head welder, walked away from you you were rewarded with a nice
view of his back....with a blue stripe painted down the center of it.

Ah......  Those were the days.

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

We stand behind, and under, our work.


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Message-ID: <01ac01c4d96c$67304ad0$0300a8c0 [at] D4D3R151>
From: "Randy Whitcomb" <rwhitco [at] comcast.net>
Subject: S4 Barrel Storage
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:15:07 -0700

Now that we've color coded them, how do you store them.  I've got 6 extra 
barrels now but plan on getting more.  I've been considering a honeycomb of 
sonotube.

Randy Whitcomb, TD
Price Civic Aud.
Loveland, CO. 


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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Current Threads
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 14:29:59 -0500
Message-ID: <002301c4d96e$9b85be80$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-6948576 [at] prxy.net>


> > (Is this thread dead yet?)
> 
> no
> 

Yes.


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Message-ID: <BAY14-F33857DB7A623D45D749AA4DAB10 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-6939588 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Matthew Breton" <theatricalmatt [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Luminaire / Instrument
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:31:34 -0500

>Or it might be confused with a "Surgical Instrument", which is descriptive 
>enough.

At my theatre, whenever somebody twangs a shutter on an instrument, we call 
it "shutter music."  We keep talking about how, in our Copious Free Time 
(tm), we're going to figure out how to tune all the instruments -- 
musically, not in terms of a bench focus.

Generally, it's the newer guys who make shutter music.  The ones who start 
dreaming they're a conductor, we invite outside.


-- Matt

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Message-ID: <007d01c4d96f$159b40f0$d39e1518 [at] DonTaco>
From: "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
References: <list-6945340 [at] prxy.net> <list-6948309 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Current Threads
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:34:19 -0800

> I've started stenciling and color-coding my crew.
>    -- Jon Ares


   At the high school, the costume crew went out one year and obtained, by 
and for themselves, some very
 nice matching black T-shirts that read 'Costumes.'  I told them they should 
get identical shirts made to wear
 to the closing night cast party that read 'Street Clothes.' 



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Message-ID: <000f01c4d96f$6f6788f0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-6945340 [at] prxy.net> <list-6948309 [at] prxy.net> <list-6951345 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Current Threads
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:36:50 -0800

>   At the high school, the costume crew went out one year and obtained, by 
> and for themselves, some very
> nice matching black T-shirts that read 'Costumes.'  I told them they 
> should get identical shirts made to wear
> to the closing night cast party that read 'Street Clothes.'


LOL!!  What an idea!

        -- Jon Ares
Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts
www.hevanet.com/acreative
http://www.wlhs.wlwv.k12.or.us/aresj/theatre/index.htm 


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Reply-To: <dbasMcCracken [at] hawaii.rr.com>
From: "Douglas McCracken" <dbasMcCracken [at] hawaii.rr.com>
Subject: RE: S4 Barrel Storage
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:44:14 -1000
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAFqUFjfG/TUGcMo33xxxhcMKAAAAQAAAAV/10c8yQ00mC/TlsuE4YgwEAAAAA [at] hawaii.rr.com>
In-reply-to: <list-6949763 [at] prxy.net>

We use empty PAR64 lamp boxes. 6 to a case.

Aloha,

Douglas 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf 
> Of Randy Whitcomb
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:15 AM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: S4 Barrel Storage
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Now that we've color coded them, how do you store them.  I've 
> got 6 extra barrels now but plan on getting more.  I've been 
> considering a honeycomb of sonotube.
> 
> Randy Whitcomb, TD
> Price Civic Aud.
> Loveland, CO. 
> 


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From: "Michael Feinberg" <michaelf [at] joyce.eng.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: Current Threads
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:08:24 -0400
Message-Id: <20041203200611.M76596 [at] joyce.eng.yale.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-6948309 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-6945340 [at] prxy.net> <list-6948309 [at] prxy.net>

On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:59:25 -0800, Jon Ares wrote
> I've started stenciling and color-coding my crew.

I've actually done the color-coding the crew part, at least with hard hats.  
For load-ins in college when there would be a lot a of unskilled labor on 
hand, I gave the blue hard hats to the crew who knew what was going on and 
instructed everyone else to find a blue hard hat and ask them if they had any 
questions.  And I bought a green hard hat for myself so it would stand out, 
couldn't quite bring myself to buy the hot pink one. :)

-Michael Feinberg, CTS

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:53:26 -0500
From: "Frank E. Merrill" <Lamplighter [at] TCON.net>
Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" <Lamplighter [at] TCON.net>
Message-ID: <1801026486.20041203155326 [at] TCON.net>
Subject: Re: Sewing machine
In-Reply-To: <list-6932009 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-6932009 [at] prxy.net>

Howdy!

Friday, December 03, 2004, James Knipple wrote:

j> Anyone have an opinion on what a good, cost effective sewing
j> machine for heavy duty work by novice sewers would be?

I have a fabulous cast iron Singer model 111-W155 that has processed
many, many miles of curtain fabric.  I believe they are no longer
manufactured, but my favorite Singer service center here in town sees
several of them.  I'd check Ebay or your local sewing service center.

Best regards,
 Frank E. Merrill
 MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT
 Eastablished 1946
 Indianapolis  
 317: 255 4666

 Running The Bat! Natural e-mail system v3.0
         mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net



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In-Reply-To: <list-6949763 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-6949763 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <E357FDDC-456F-11D9-9D8B-000D936BFA94 [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: S4 Barrel Storage
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:11:24 -0500

Mine  sit three deep and 7 wide perfectly on an old set of shelves I 
inherited from the AV dept.  If you care they are all gel frame holder 
down with the degree marking facing forward.  36 deg should be only 
place in front of other  36 deg as with all the different degrees.

> Now that we've color coded them, how do you store them.  I've got 6 
> extra barrels now but plan on getting more.  I've been considering a 
> honeycomb of sonotube.


Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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Message-ID: <62799.142.179.101.174.1102111506.squirrel [at] 142.179.101.174>
In-Reply-To: <list-6939199 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-6939199 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 14:05:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson)
From: "Tom Heemskerk" <tommy [at] etainternet.com>

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Bernina 1008 and Kenmore are two names that have been discussed as good
> choices for novice sewers. There is an extensive discussion going on bout
> this on the costumer's list. Subscribe:
> costumeinfo-subscribe [at] yahoogroups.com
>
> Other factors discussed include availablilty of part and service in your
> area.


Another machine that is fairly common is the Pfaff 138 reversing zig-zag,
but any machine with a 1/2 horse motor is perhpas a wild ride for a
beginner....
th

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Message-ID: <41B0F85E.7020409 [at] stmarys-ca.edu>
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:35:58 -0800
From: Michael Cook <mrcook [at] stmarys-ca.edu>
Subject: Number the messages on the list

I get the list in digest form. The messages are nicely numbered on the 
top. Any chance we could get the messages numbered in the lower portion 
of the digest, or even linked? I often spend many minutes trying to find 
the message I want to read and sometimes, I hate to admit, give up and 
delete the whole digest in frustration. Just wondering,
Michael


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Message-ID: <41B121B6.1020502 [at] peak.org>
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:32:22 -0800
From: Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
Subject: Re: Number the messages on the list
References: <list-6975240 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-6975240 [at] prxy.net>

Michael Cook wrote:

> I get the list in digest form. The messages are nicely numbered on the 
> top. Any chance we could get the messages numbered in the lower portion 
> of the digest, or even linked? I often spend many minutes trying to find 
> the message I want to read and sometimes, I hate to admit, give up and 
> delete the whole digest in frustration. Just wondering,

I don't think it's easy - or even possible - to set that up in the list 
software. But if you're a Windows user, hitting Ctrl-F while you have a 
documetn (including an e-mail message) open will generate a search box; 
then you can just type in the subject you're looking for, or a keyword or 
two, and find the right message almost instantly.

-- 
Pat Kight
kightp [at] peak.org




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Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20041204133535.035a9b68 [at] pop3.kilowatt.com.au>
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 13:39:27 +1100
From: Andy Ciddor <aciddor [at] kilowatt.com.au>
Subject: Re: portable fixtures
In-Reply-To: <list-6933277 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-6902633 [at] prxy.net>

At 03:06 4.12.2004, Karl Ruling wrote:
>a urinal (unless it's portable) is a "fixture." It's a
>plumbing fixture, but it's a fixture.

What about the all mirror urinal in the "Home" nightclub is Sydney?
It also has several video screens embedded in it....
I think that may make it an A/V fixture.

Andy




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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 21:47:47 -0500
From: MPTecDir [at] aol.com
Subject: Re: RE: High density plastic glides
Message-ID: <571A6C99.7C1B9046.00740ECC [at] aol.com>

"Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>


<<My sample of UHWM came in today .......... On the down side it makes a hideous sound.  Like something
scraping against something else. ............  Any suggestions to on how to quiet this stuff down!

Patrick,

I went through a similar series of events a few years back.  The scene designer wanted pallets as thin as possible.  The show was not a musical with lots of cover music, so the sound designer, justifiably, veto'ed every attempt we made to slide or glide or use the hard delron rollers  (check out the tech brief archives for several versions of these).  The quietest we found was the carpet strips, the easiest (least force needed) was the rollers. What we finally wound up with was a special little shop built caster unit. Very quiet and easy rolling.  The trade off was the pallet had an overall height of 2-1/16", about an inch thicker than most of the other pallets.

The method was to cut a length of 2"x1-1/2" 14ga sq tube 1-1/2" long.  This became the housing for the caster.  Two pieces of 1/8"x3/4" flat stock were welded to the 2" sides along the bottom edge. Drill a 5/16" hole through the 2" sides, centered and 1/2" above the bottom edge.  Press a cold rolled 5/16" shaft through the holes and through a Colson 1-5/8"x7/8", soft grey rubber wheel and a couple of teflon washer spacers.  The pallet was made of three layers of 1/2" Ply, layered and all seams offset. Cut a 2"x1-1/2" hole for each caster, the 3 layers of 1/2" ply allowed a roughly 3' spacing between casters.  Insert the caster unit from below,into the hole, with the flat stock tabs under the pallet. Don't know if this will help you or not, but there you are.

-- 
Michael

Michael Powers, Technical Director
U Mass Amherst, Dept of Theatre
112 Fine Arts Center West
151 Presidents Drive Ofc 2
Amherst, MA 01003-9331
 
Phone:  413-545-6821
Fax:    413-577-0025
http://www.umass.edu/theater/ 
mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu
mptecdir [at] aol.com


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Message-ID: <55eb33be041203205777e5e7b6 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 21:57:39 -0700
From: Jared Johnson <zitronenesis [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Jared Johnson <zitronenesis [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Number the messages on the list
In-Reply-To: <list-6990816 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-6975240 [at] prxy.net> <list-6990816 [at] prxy.net>

or just use gmail. the "hide message" and "show all messages in
thread" is really nice.


On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:32:22 -0800, Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Michael Cook wrote:
> 
> > I get the list in digest form. The messages are nicely numbered on the
> > top. Any chance we could get the messages numbered in the lower portion
> > of the digest, or even linked? I often spend many minutes trying to find
> > the message I want to read and sometimes, I hate to admit, give up and
> > delete the whole digest in frustration. Just wondering,
> 
> I don't think it's easy - or even possible - to set that up in the list
> software. But if you're a Windows user, hitting Ctrl-F while you have a
> documetn (including an e-mail message) open will generate a search box;
> then you can just type in the subject you're looking for, or a keyword or
> two, and find the right message almost instantly.
> 
> --
> Pat Kight
> kightp [at] peak.org
> 
>

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Message-ID: <01e401c4d9ca$04d97d80$923fff18 [at] tc.ph.cox.net>
From: "qstage" <qstage [at] cox.net>
References: <list-6902633 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Work Boot Recommendations....
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 23:25:15 -0700

Hi all,

The time has come to retire my pile of worn out boots, and I figured, hell,
why not enliven the list with a debate about the merits of various brands of
footwear. We all know WFWWD, but for those who like to protect their soles
from puncture and support their arches, what say you?

thanks,


Dylan Smith
The Quintessential Stage
Tucson, AZ






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Message-ID: <d983c4a04120322235670c47c [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 22:23:02 -0800
From: Mat Goebel <mgoebel [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Mat Goebel <mgoebel [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Work Boot Recommendations....
In-Reply-To: <list-7018909 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-6902633 [at] prxy.net> <list-7018909 [at] prxy.net>

I've been sporting a pair of wolvering steel-toes for about a year
now. When I first got them, I had some problems with my ankle and the
steel counter in the heel. Luckily, my friend is a certified
pedorthist and was able to take care of me  =)  One other person I
know has reported similar comfort problems with the exact same
style/maker of boot, so it may be a design flaw. Either way, they work
well for me now. They're so well broken in, they're the shoes I wear
all the time.

I have a friend who recently bought a pair of caterpillar steel-toes
that he's very happy with. They hurt his feet the first couple days he
wore them (understandably, breaking them in), but he tells me they're
very comfortable now.

As far as arch support goes, I have after-market inserts in mine. I
don't know what brand they are - my pedorthist friend put them in.

Prior to the wolverine's I currently wear, I had a cheap (US$20 on
sale) pair of boots from a sporting goods store. They worked okay and
were marginally comfortable, but they blew out after about 6 months. I
guess I got my money's worth out of them.  =)

Just my two cents.

On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 23:25:15 -0700, qstage <qstage [at] cox.net> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> The time has come to retire my pile of worn out boots, and I figured, hell,
> why not enliven the list with a debate about the merits of various brands of
> footwear. We all know WFWWD, but for those who like to protect their soles
> from puncture and support their arches, what say you?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Dylan Smith
> The Quintessential Stage
> Tucson, AZ
> 
> 


-- 
Mat Goebel
Cell: 510.693.1448

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From: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <c4.1be80148.2ee2b48b [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 01:34:51 EST
Subject: Re:  Re: Number the messages on the list

In a message dated 12/3/4 8:19:43 PM, kightp [at] peak.org wrote:
<<But if you're a Windows user, hitting Ctrl-F while you have a 
documetn (including an e-mail message) open will generate a search box; >>

And on my antique Mac running AOL 3.0, the Edit menu drops down to reveal a 
"find in top window" box that will do the same. :)

Kristi

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Message-ID: <41B1747B.3080401 [at] peak.org>
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 00:25:31 -0800
From: Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
Subject: Re: Number the messages on the list
References: <list-6975240 [at] prxy.net> <list-6990816 [at] prxy.net> <list-7009414 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-7009414 [at] prxy.net>

Jared Johnson wrote:

> or just use gmail. the "hide message" and "show all messages in
> thread" is really nice.

Michael was talking about the digest version of the list, which would show 
up in gmail as it does elsewhere, as one loooooooong message.

(Mozilla has the same features, by the way...)

--
Pat Kight
kightp [at] peak.org


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Message-ID: <41B17469.FCB78EA8 [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 03:25:13 -0500
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Subject: Re: Work Boot Recommendations....
References: <list-6902633 [at] prxy.net> <list-7018909 [at] prxy.net>



qstage wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Hi all,
>
> The time has come to retire my pile of worn out boots, and I figured, hell,
> why not enliven the list with a debate about the merits of various brands of
> footwear. We all know WFWWD, but for those who like to protect their soles
> from puncture and support their arches, what say you?
>
> thanks,

    My big concern is finding a pair that actually fits.  I wear a large and
wide size, so finding a pair that actually fits is rather a challenge.  I am
also
a big believer in those blue gel inserts.  They help cut down on the sore
feet problem enormously.  In the US, OSHA requires you to buy your
employees safety shoes on a periodic schedule.  So having the one of
the companies who have the shoe-mobiles come by twice a year is well
worth it.  You can try on many different brands, comparing prices and
features till you find the right one for you.

    --Dale


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From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 01:11:37 -0800
Message-ID: <00df01c4d9e1$4477afe0$726dfea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer>
In-reply-to: <list-6948743 [at] prxy.net>

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-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of John
Bracewell
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:05 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Sewing machine (and Latin lesson)

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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>P.S.And for those of you who aren't well versed in Latin or Catholic 
>history... Agnus (Agnes) is "lamb" and Agnus Dei = lamb of God.

Miserere nobis!

--JLB 


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