Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 8236235; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 03:01:34 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #224 Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 03:01:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, NO_OBLIGATION autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #224 1. Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #223 by Richard Lund 2. Re: The New Red Skelton Theatre in Vincennes, Indiana by RHolen [at] vinu.edu 3. Re: Cutting Stainless by "Paul Guncheon" 4. "found items"/carpet roll by "Stephen E. Rees" 5. Re: All right, I give up. by "Stephen E. Rees" 6. Re: Politically Correct Holidays - OT by "LES LIND" 7. Re: DeWalt batteries by "Paul Guncheon" 8. Re: Doom Impersonation (was Lens storage now "found items") by Shawn Palmer 9. Re: The New Red Skelton Theatre in Vincennes, Indiana by "Paul Schreiner" 10. Re: "found items"/carpet roll by Greg Bierly 11. Merry Christmas - Live Nativity webcasr by "holyoak1" 12. Re: Lens storage now "found items" by Greg Bierly 13. Re: Doom Impersonation (was Lens storage now "found items") by Kåre Olai Lindbach 14. Re: plexi floor by Jerry Durand 15. Re: JLG Lift Certification by Jason Tollefson 16. Re: Autocad and fading line by "Ken Romaine" 17. JLG Lift Certification by Reid G Johnson 18. OT: Intelectual solution. by Bruce Purdy 19. Generic holiday greeting (was:Re: new use for a common item - OT) by CB 20. Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) by CB 21. Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) by Stephen Litterst 22. Re: wireless belt/pouch by CB 23. Re: My lzdG9waGV post in Stagecraft Digest #220 by CB 24. Politically Correct Holidays - OT by CB 25. Re: OT: Intelectual solution. by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 26. Re: OSB Question by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 27. Re: OSB Question by Charlie Richmond 28. Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 29. Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 30. Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) by Stephen Litterst 31. Re: the ethos of sound ( and light ? ) by David Marks 32. Re: wireless belt/pouch by Dale Farmer 33. Re: OSB Question by "Ian Cunningham" 34. Re: plexi windows (was plexi floor) by "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <9E53DD7DC667D311A47A0000F808EC8E034EDF9F [at] strandla> From: Richard Lund Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Stagecraft Digest #223 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 03:01:01 -0800 I am out of the office until Tuesday Dec. 14th, but will reply to your email when I return. Regards, Richard Lund Strand Lighting ------------------------------ Subject: Re: The New Red Skelton Theatre in Vincennes, Indiana Message-ID: From: RHolen [at] vinu.edu Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:18:20 -0600 I did a walk through at the construction site of our new theatre yesterday. It is going to be wonderful. Great sight lines in the main theatre, wonderful scene shop, black box theatre, great costume shop. Thanks to Jones and Phillips we are getting what we wanted. Thanks to Ted Padget, Van Phillips and the Jones and Phillips design team. Richard D. Holen Professor Dept. of Theatre Vincennes University 1002 N. 1st Street Vincennes, IN 47591 Office: 812 888 5339 Home: 812 886 9135 Cell: 812 760 8000 rholen [at] indian.vinu.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <005701c4debe$ca365f50$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Cutting Stainless Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 03:47:26 -1000 Bosch makes blades for its saber (jigsaw) saws specifically for cutting stainless steel. They're not cheap but they work quite well. http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/bosc/bojig_metal.htm?E+coastest Laters, Paul "I don't think this poem is long enough" said Tom, adversely. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41B9B344.9040003 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:31:32 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: "found items"/carpet roll References:

You might be able to sleeve a slightly larger ID pipe over the main pipe. That would then spin as the rack revolved. Luminaires (see, I can do this!) would then always hang straight down. One of my favorite acquisitions was several library card files many years ago. They now contain stage hardware and lighting parts. 1/8" lauan covers the big slot in the drawer bottom and some have been partitioned. HTH. Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia [snippage] Dale Farmer wrote: Are any of you familiar with the carpet dispensing systems at the big box stores. > >May have to use european style clamps so they can slip around the pipe as it spins > around. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41B9B3CD.6080104 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:33:49 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: All right, I give up. References:

Would a plasma cutting torch do this?? You'd think so. Sorry for answering a ? w/ a ?. Steve Rees > "Nimm, Christopher Kehoe" wrote: >> >>Does anyone know a good way to cut stainless steel? ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:49:42 -0500 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Re: Politically Correct Holidays - OT Yeah that's it. Thanks Kristi Les Lind, TD NHS Dramatics Northeastern High School Manchester, PA >>> MissWisc [at] aol.com 12/9/04 11:32:33 PM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Les... Is this what you were thinking of? Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <005b01c4debf$b54738c0$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: DeWalt batteries Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 03:54:02 -1000 <> The corrosion happens on 4 batteries, not just one. Whatever protective coating was on the terminals didn't work very well in the first place. <> I'll try "Corrosion Block" on them... a far better lubricant (and way more expensive) than WD-40. Laters, Paul "All you other committee members are gonna have to stand on your own two feet" said Tom, taking the chair. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41B9A50B.3060506 [at] northnet.net> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:30:51 -0600 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Doom Impersonation (was Lens storage now "found items") References: In-Reply-To: > My apologies for not being the proper role model. Doom I know this mini-thread is tongue in cheek, and here I go dragging the thread on... but... in my six years in this position I have found Doom very helpful and friendly in several situations. I have also found him knowledgeable in his specific field. I know his emails to the list are sometimes QUITE cryptic, but the emails we've personally traded are not. Every list needs someone to post like Doom- it builds character! Every industry needs someone like Doom too, who is absolutely passionate about safety. The sig is long, but I've made up for it by shortening mine. Even Dooms have feelings :-) Shawn P Neenah, WI USA ------------------------------ Subject: RE: The New Red Skelton Theatre in Vincennes, Indiana Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:38:20 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A74ADD6 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > I did a walk through at the construction site of our new=20 > theatre yesterday. It is going to be wonderful. Great sight=20 > lines in the main theatre, wonderful scene shop, black box=20 > theatre, great costume shop.=20 Congratulations...but what about storage? ;) ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: "found items"/carpet roll Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:43:46 -0500 > One of my favorite acquisitions was several library card files many > years ago. They now contain stage hardware and lighting parts. 1/8" > lauan covers the big slot in the drawer bottom and some have been > partitioned. Also works well for gobo storage. ------------------------------ From: "holyoak1" Subject: Merry Christmas - Live Nativity webcasr Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:47:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Its time for my annual Christmas Nativity Pageant - Camels inside Link is on home page - below Look in upper left corner www.stlukesumc.com or http://www.stlukesumc.com/webcast/ Sunday December 12 Brief visit in the 9:30 and 11:00 live feed Like Nativity Show is at 5 and 6 pm Kenneth H. Holyoak Information+Insight=Profit HIG, LLC Mail POB 68633 Indianapolis IN 46268-0633 ken [at] kenholyoak.com 317-253-7000 FAX 317-255-3708 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of MissWisc [at] aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:33 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Politically Correct Holidays - OT For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Les... Is this what you were thinking of? To whom it may concern, Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all; and a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2004, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures, and without regard to the race, creed, colour, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer platform, or sexual preference of the wishee. By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms. 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Kristi ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Lens storage now "found items" Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:39:42 -0500 > I used to do a lot of work for a nationally known flooring > manufacturer, > including the training videos on how to load and unload these units. I knew there had to be a reason that I hadn't seen this done before. It seems too logical to not be seen in a new construction somewhere. Again the combined experience of this list proves astounding! Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=E5re_Olai_Lindbach?= Subject: Re: Doom Impersonation (was Lens storage now "found items") Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:07:40 +0100 Organization: LLP Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:30:51 -0600, you (Shawn Palmer ) wrote: [About Dooms sig.] >The sig is long, but I've made up for it by shortening mine. If Doom had put a correct sig-mark on a line of it's own above his sig: -- short or long signature here ie: [leftmost-position-of-a-newline]), then any decent news/email reader would have cut off the sig when replying to the post. ;-) I have this put into all my sigs. -- mvh/Regards Kåre Olai Lindbach (News: Remove '_delete_' and '.invalid') (HTML-written email from unknown will be discarded) ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20041210081732.03b90c78 [at] localhost> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:22:30 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: plexi floor In-Reply-To: References: At 11:11 AM 12/9/2004, Dale Farmer wrote: >It does, however, degrade in >strength when exposed to UV and certain chemicals. I believe both are >from Dupont. Chlorine is one thing that really degrades it. I had an expensive Motorola radio in a Lexan case and got solder flux remover on it (chlorine based). The case very shortly developed hundreds of cracks and fell apart. Motorola replaced it when the dealer went into the normal tech-support loop (other thread). Motorcycle helmets are sometimes made of Lexan, big warnings as to not painting them. It's really good at impact resistance but not good at absorbing shock. I don't know if it's still the case, but the best helmets were Lexan coated with fiberglass/resin. The fiberglass/resin layer would shatter (absorb shock) while the Lexan prevented penetration. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20041210163746.18248.qmail [at] web51001.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:37:46 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Tollefson Reply-To: jason [at] tollefsondesigns.com Subject: Re: JLG Lift Certification In-Reply-To: At the Walt Disney World Resort we have a two-part internal certification program. A 4 hour classroom course covers AWP safety and basic operational guidelines. Then following that there is site-specific training at your stage with the AWP you'll be using. When the on site trainer feels you can operate the lift safely within the environment at that stage, they sign you off. Then and only then are you allowed to operate the lift on your own. Prior to that, you can ride along and work from the lift with another, signed-off technician provided you've completed the company's fall protection program. Jason Tollefson www.tollefsondesigns.com > By a show of hands, who currently holds a certificate or license > specifically for the purpose of operating a JLG/Genie type lift > (manually propelled)? ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Autocad and fading line Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:48:41 -0800 Message-ID: <35418D398577A34FB3A059F99B9F37020334CD9A [at] nigel.tmbworldwide.tmb.com> From: "Ken Romaine" On or about Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Chris Wych wrote: It seems like alot of you use Vectorworks but hopefully someone can answer my AutoCAD question. Is there a way to make a line to be black and one end and then fade into white? Kind of like using a pencil and then slowly lifting it away. I hope this makes sense. Thanks for the help. Chris Wych =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I got the following suggestion from my wife, AutoCAD goddess for hire: Draw a rectangle the width and length of the line that he wants to fade. = Do a gradient solid hatch inside the rectangle and either freeze the border = or put it on defpoints. He'd have to play with gray scale and color, but it works. Oh, and it only works in 2004+. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Hope this helps!! Ken Romaine Sales TMB New York kr [at] tmb.com=20 ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:04:19 -0500 From: Reid G Johnson Subject: JLG Lift Certification Cc: chofmann [at] capecod.edu I have a Aerial Work Platform Permit (I think it's called - a wallet card) for the lifts being discussed. I am at Meadow Brook Theatre which Michael Powers referenced a few days ago. His recollection is correct. The University we were connected with required this. He remembers MIOSHA requiring this, and the University following through. I'll have to defer to him on that. He was in the position of helping to institute the training/testing at the time. I guess the answer to the source of the document we use is C) 'local safety organization". The Oakland University Risk Management department, in consult with us, put together the training and test, which is still as described by Michael... Approximately 20 minutes training followed by a true/false multiple choice test. Our training/test also includes the use of the old Tall-e-scope Pickers(got a feeling that's not exactly the right name!)... The completely manual bucket at the top of a vertical ladder, on wheels with outriggers. We are a separate non-profit these days, but still in the same building on Campus. The OU Risk Management dept still processes the tests we give and issue the cards. Hofmann, Christopher wrote: > >Subject: JLG Lift Certification > > >Changing the subject line and honing my question to try and elicit more >responses. > >By a show of hands, who currently holds a certificate or license >specifically for the purpose of operating a JLG/Genie type lift >(manually propelled)? > >If so, is your document generated by your employer, the manufacturer, a >local or federal safety organization, or your state or commonwealth? -- Reid G Johnson Resident Lighting Designer/Master Electrician Meadow Brook Theatre Ensemble Rochester, Michigan bubbaj [at] mbtheatre.com reidlite [at] earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:33:25 -0500 Subject: OT: Intelectual solution. From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hi All! I apologise for the OT message, but I believe many on this list are of a scientific bent, and might appreciate this: ................... The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid-term. The answer by one student was so "profound" that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well. Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)? Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following: First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we Need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added. This gives two possibilities: 1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose. 2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over. So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that,"it will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you", and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number 2 must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. Of course, the corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct...leaving only Heaven thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting "Oh my God." THIS STUDENT RECEIVED THE ONLY "A" in the class. .............................. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041210125019.0181bd90 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:50:19 From: CB Subject: Generic holiday greeting (was:Re: new use for a common item - OT) >Which reminds me, someone posted a politically correct holiday greeting >last year. Anyone still have it? "Happy seasonal greeting appropriate to your particular ism!" is my standard this time of year. I may have used it last year. That one? ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041210125603.0181bd90 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:56:03 From: CB Subject: Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) >With film, projected on a screen, you can get up to 40:1 Frank, you misspelled 1000:1. Google "television contrast ratio", and the first eight or ten will either contain an explanation of contrast ratio or try to sell you a television with a contrast ratio from 300:1 up to 850:1. Welcome to the nineties! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:00:52 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) Message-id: <41BA0074.E5730313 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: > --------------------------------------------------- > >With film, projected on a screen, you can get up to 40:1 Googling Film Contrast ratio yields a ratio of 1000:1 for 70mm. Digital projection isn't as good, but beats the pants off 40:1. Our 4000lumen projector has a contrast ration of 400:1. Steve Litterst (one quoted line:three lines of substance. Good enough, CB?) -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041210130918.0181bd90 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:09:18 From: CB Subject: Re: wireless belt/pouch >The best things I could find were cell phone pouches at one >of the luggage stores; I got twenty for five dollars (Canadian) each. I'll buy them for $5 US, and you can keep the extra. I'll also buy shipping. Go back to the store and get me 20! OTOH, anyone know of a decent pouch for Clear-Com packs? I've used tactical radio pouches, and had that work fairly well, but still a bit clumsy. I need something an order of magnitude better than the clip that comes standard. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041210131231.0181bd90 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:12:31 From: CB Subject: Re: My lzdG9waGV post in Stagecraft Digest #220 >But play nice, since about 5% of the list population subscribes through >AOL :-) Then they all know what I'm talking about. As a percentage, how many technical problems with posting to the list were traced back to the ISP of the user? How many of those were AOL related? How many weren't? Hey, I got family on AOL, but I refuse to support them technically at all. I refused technical phone support to my MOTHER when she converted to AOL! And I LOVE my mom... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041210131745.0181bd90 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:17:45 From: CB Subject: Politically Correct Holidays - OT >To whom it may concern, > Please accept with no obligation, Whew! Color me embarrassed! I thought I took the fun out of it... ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <60.4a928835.2eeb8b7b [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:30:03 EST Subject: Re: OT: Intelectual solution. In a message dated 10/12/04 19:35:18 GMT Standard Time, bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com writes: > First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we Need > to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which > they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to > Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. If you are a follower of Christianity, the Apostles' Creed states of Christ: "He descended into Hell. On the third day He rose again." That makes at least one soul who has left Hell. Depending on the particular flavour which you follow, very many more may have. > > As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different > religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that > if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there > is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more > than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. Buddhists believe that all souls will eventually reach Nirvana, after many, many, lifetimes. As you do good in the world, you advance, as you do evil, you retreat down the Ladder of Existence, and have to start your climb from a lower rung. > > With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in > Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the > volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature > and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand > proportionately as souls are added. This assumes that the laws of Physics as we know them operate in Hell. Such speculation as there is offers little or no evidence. > > This gives two possibilities: > > 1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter > Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell > breaks loose. > > 2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, > then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over. > > So which is it? These are conclusions reached on inadequate evidence, and so, not valid. > THIS STUDENT RECEIVED THE ONLY "A" in the class. I think that this paper was marked by a whimsical professor. I am all in favour of these. Back in my schooldays, we did a General Knowledge paper just before Christmas, and the exact same paper when we went back after the New Year. The idea was that you researched the answers you didn't know over the holiday. (this was in the fifties, before PSs, the web, and search engines.) But there was some credit attached to providing witty or ingenious answers the first time round, to questions you couldn't answer. I don't know whether the student deserved an "A". But credit was due to an original answer. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <89.1bd65092.2eeb8c49 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:33:29 EST Subject: Re: OSB Question In a message dated 07/12/04 18:53:47 GMT Standard Time, pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu writes: > > Has anyone used/considered using OSB for stress skin platform > > skins? If so, what are your observations; if not, what are > > your reservations? First, and only question. What is OSB? I can think of things that it might be, but accurate information is better than guesswork. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 23:41:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: OSB Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > First, and only question. What is OSB? I can think of things that it might > be, but accurate information is better than guesswork. Oriented strand board. Sort of a cross between plywood and MDF. Tougher than the latter but weaker than the former and available in exterior grades (not waterproof but resistant to moisture). At least that's what it is in Canada ;-) Charlie ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1e6.305e195a.2eeb924b [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:59:07 EST Subject: Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) In a message dated 10/12/04 19:55:17 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > >With film, projected on a screen, you can get up to 40:1 > > Frank, you misspelled 1000:1. Google "television contrast ratio", and the > first eight or ten will either contain an explanation of contrast ratio or > try to sell you a television with a contrast ratio from 300:1 up to 850:1. > Welcome to the nineties! Chris. The words "talking", and "back of your neck" come to mind. Piece by piece. First, film. The maximum density you can reasonably achieve with a reasonable grey scale is about 3.0. The minimum is about 0.3. Lithographic films can manage higher densities, but at a cost in grey scale rendering. You do the sums. Then, TV. Assuming that I accept your ludicrous TV contrast ratios, which I do not, what use is that to grannie in her sitting room? Her TV cannot deal with them: neither, do I believe, can any TV display. And that's your audience. I suspect that you may be entangled in the differences between logarithmic and linear units. This is not a boast, but I have spent some years teaching TV engineering to the BBC's engineering recruits, and more years working in the trade. OK, back in the eighties. The laws of Physics haven't changed since then. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <83.1ca9bf61.2eeb954a [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:11:54 EST Subject: Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) In a message dated 10/12/04 20:01:27 GMT Standard Time, slitterst [at] ithaca.edu writes: > > >With film, projected on a screen, you can get up to 40:1 > > Googling Film Contrast ratio yields a ratio of 1000:1 for 70mm. > > Digital projection isn't as good, but beats the pants off 40:1. Our > 4000lumen projector has a contrast ration of 400:1. Please forgive me if I express incredulity. Or, perhaps, misunderstanding of the units. Film transmission is expressed in logarithmic units. The densest black that I know of in film, and that is a specialist product, had a density of 3.0. The thinnest film base is about 0.2, on that same logarithmic base. When you make the bridge between logarithmic units and linear units, you need to be very careful, and need to consider the responses of the human sense organs. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:20:15 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: the ethos of sound (and light?) Message-id: <41BA3D3F.5F4487C0 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > In a message dated 10/12/04 20:01:27 GMT Standard Time, slitterst [at] ithaca.edu > writes: > > Googling Film Contrast ratio yields a ratio of 1000:1 for 70mm. > Please forgive me if I express incredulity. Or, perhaps, misunderstanding of > the units. > The units are immaterial in a ratio, so long as they're the same on each side of the equation. According to the sites I mentioned, on 70mm film pure white is 1000x as bright as pure black. To be more precise, black is 1/1000 the intensity of pure white. Steve Litterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41BA3D65.6030802 [at] att.net> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:20:53 -0500 From: David Marks Subject: Re: the ethos of sound ( and light ? ) References: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: >With film, projected on a screen, you can get up to 40:1. > >Where does this 300:1 contrast ratio come from? What equipment can generate it? Where can I get pictures which use it? > > Video projectors. 300:1 is the very bare minimum for any video projector. Projected film has a much, much higher contrast ratio than 40:1. Here's the "accepted" definition for video projectors: Contrast is the ratio of whitest to blackest area within an image. Higher contrast ratios make for deeper blacks richer colors. Contrast ratios typically range from 400:1 to as high as 3000:1. Note: There are two methods of calculating contrast ratio used by projector manufacturers. Full On/Off contrast measures the ratio of the light output from an entirely white image (full on) versus the light output from an entirely black image (full off). ANSI contrast is measured with a pattern of 16 alternating black and white rectangles. *****The average light output from the white rectangles is divided by the average light output of the black rectangles to determine the ANSI contrast ratio.***** When comparing the contrast ratio of projectors make sure you are comparing the same type of contrast. Full On/Off contrast will always be a larger number than ANSI contrast for the same projector. I know I'm wasting my breath, despite having worked in TV and film for 25 years. Dave Marks ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41BA4C66.42A2BB0D [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:24:54 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: wireless belt/pouch References: CB wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >The best things I could find were cell phone pouches at one > >of the luggage stores; I got twenty for five dollars (Canadian) each. > > I'll buy them for $5 US, and you can keep the extra. I'll also buy > shipping. Go back to the store and get me 20! > OTOH, anyone know of a decent pouch for Clear-Com packs? I've used > tactical radio pouches, and had that work fairly well, but still a bit > clumsy. I need something an order of magnitude better than the clip that > comes standard. What I've done with one of mine as an experiment is attaching a pair of loops to the top, and then I can clip a shoulder strap to it. The shoulder strap is still a pile of material, I'm playing with it to try and make a cable tunnel in the shoulder strap for the headset cable. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <028c01c4df23$bfaafcc0$0202a8c0 [at] laptop> From: "Ian Cunningham" References: Subject: Re: OSB Question Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 01:50:08 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: OSB Question > First, and only question. What is OSB? I can think of things that it might > be, but accurate information is better than guesswork. > > > Frank Wood As Charlie has said its Oriented Strand Board - bit like chipboard made out of really big chips Also known in the UK as Sterling board - used for boarding up buildings and hoardings round building sites. cheap and tough sheet material that doesn't mind being outdoors Ian Cunningham Solus Technical Services ------------------------------ Message-ID: <297C9E3B63B2D3119C8100508B5ED28F1601FFA4 [at] exchange2.ubc.ca> From: "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" Subject: RE: plexi windows (was plexi floor) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:13:49 -0800 Frank: About the lack of need of bullet proof windows over there: Didn't Thatcher need a bunch? I dare say Major might consider some before his last term is out (assuming this is his last term.) Andrew M. Riter Head Lighting Technician Chan Centre ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #224 *****************************