Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 12156566; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 03:01:29 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #247 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 03:01:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #247 1. Albee / Beckett changes in productions/Merrily... by Martha Kight 2. Re: Albee / Beckett changes in productions/Merrily... by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 3. Re: Lighting history mysteries by IAEG [at] aol.com 4. Cirque in Brum (UK) by "Tony" 5. Re: Merry Christmas and God Bless Us Everyone! by MissWisc [at] aol.com 6. Re: Cirque in Brum (UK) by "Delbert Hall" 7. Re: Cirque in Brum (UK) by "Tony" 8. Re: More intel. prop. stuff by "Delbert Hall" 9. Re: Merry Christmas and God Bless Us Everyone! by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 10. Riverdance Taps by Brendan Quigley 11. Re: Cirque in Brum (UK) by "Delbert Hall" 12. Re: More intel. prop. stuff by Bruce Purdy 13. Re: Cirque in Brum (UK) by Bill Sapsis 14. Re: More intel. prop. stuff by Dale Farmer 15. Re: Riverdance Taps by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 16. Re: Riverdance Taps by IAEG [at] aol.com 17. Re: More intel. prop. stuff by "Jason" 18. Re: Cirque in Brum (UK) by "Tony" 19. Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc by MissWisc [at] aol.com 20. Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc by IAEG [at] aol.com 21. Cirque in Auckland (Quidam ) by "Bill Brinsley" 22. Re: intellectual property - long post by MissWisc [at] aol.com 23. Re: Albee / Beckett changes in productions/Merrily... by Pat Kight 24. Re: Albee / Beckett changes in productions/Merrily... by "Jon Ares" 25. Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 26. Projection surfaces by "Immel,Patrick" 27. Re: Cirque in Auckland (Quidam ) by Bill Sapsis 28. Re: Projection surfaces by Richard Bakos 29. Re: Projection surfaces by Dale Farmer 30. Isolated DMX512 Splitter by Jerry Durand 31. Re: Projection surfaces by IAEG [at] aol.com 32. FS (UK) S4 19 deg lens tubes by "Tony" 33. Re: Cirque in Auckland (Quidam ) by "Delbert Hall" 34. Re: More intel. prop. stuff by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 35. Re: More intel. prop. stuff by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" 36. Re: More intel. prop. stuff by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 37. Re: Projection surfaces by Barney Simon 38. Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc by Michael Feinberg 39. Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 40. Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc by "Jeremiah Minh Greenblatt" 41. Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 42. Re: fire in night club in argentina by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 04:14:27 -0800 From: Martha Kight Subject: Albee / Beckett changes in productions/Merrily... >...there are stories of productions of WHOSE AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOLF, , where >it's two gay couples that I believe Albee shot down, , , (according to some >that's the subtext of the play) Anyone else run into the requirement that productions of "Virginia Woolf" send photos and bios of the actors cast (I think Director bio, too)? That's what happened to us here in Sacramento. Weird. I suppose if he doesn't like the actors, Mister Albee just yoinks your rights?? Pat? I know you played Martha up North after our poroduction.... BTW - don't be confused, y'all - I'm Pat Kight's sister Martha.... she played "Martha" in a different production of VW/different city than the one I worked on ...and to REALLY make it fun, for ours, I was the Production Manager (tho' I'd have made a *splendid* "Martha" - it just wasn't my turn!) and our backstage ASM was named George - I swear to ya. At notes, it was always a little jarring for us to hear our names - took a sec' to figure out if the note was for crew or actors, tho' the director usually called our "George" and "Martha" by their own real names. The director was a honey, but his name wasn't - thank mercy for small favors. >>we won't even begin to discuss Sondheim's MERRILY WE ROLL ALONG, which >carries with it a disclaimer that bacically says " don't even THINK about >>changing the order of this production" Re: "Merrily we Roll Along" - The reason for that disclaimer about not un-reversing the order *may* have to do with a production I was *briefly* cast in a VERY long time ago (NOT my company) - about...1980, 82-ish ??? (Unless the disclaimer was already there, which makes this story even more heinous). The director was a NUT job and told us he had received not only rights to do the show, but since it was such a flop on Broadway, he knew why and had recieved Mister Sondheim's personal blessing to put it into chrono order, since reverse chrono order was prolly why it didn't work. Gag... ah, we were so naive... I believe that that was much of WHY Sondheim wrote the piece, as an excercise in what happens when you tell a story backwards. We had just done another show with this nitwit, and I had NOT had a good experience - I was gonna give it one rehearsal and gently bow out if he hadn't improved his ways. He hadn't and I did... good instincts, cause opening weekend they received a "cease and desist " from the powers that be - of course there *no* permission for a re-write. They found out about it when a local reviewer had written New York for a press packet, being a big Sondheim fan and in prep for writing about the piece. The reply was... "THEY'RE DOING WHAT?!??!" Not sure if he had even secured the rights at all (s'been a LONG time). Some lovely actors who put in a LOT of work got seriously burned. The director is no longer with us. Ahem - not to disparage the deceased certainly... Cheers, Martha Kight Synergy Stage, Sacramento, CA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Martha Kight ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Albee / Beckett changes in productions/Merrily... Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:28:53 -0500 Message-ID: <000301c4f0c6$a3c2cce0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Anyone else run into the requirement that productions of > "Virginia Woolf" send photos and bios of the actors cast (I > think Director bio, too)? The one-man show "Tru" requires casting approval from the playwright. ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <30.690e3187.2f094c74 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 08:09:08 EST Subject: Re: Lighting history mysteries In a message dated 1/1/05 11:37:02 PM, rfinkels [at] msn.com writes: >So do any of you know the particulars of this production? Was it indeed >a >Broadway production some two years before Musser's to use Computer >controlled lighting? Regardless of the Vivian Beaumont's Broadway designation or the date of the LaMancha revival the real importance of Musser / A Chorus Line is that it was the first of the OLD theatres in the traditional Broadway district to convert from DC to AC. very best, Keith Arsenault ------------------------------ Message-ID: <0cc001c4f0e2$45a84fb0$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References: Subject: Cirque in Brum (UK) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:46:44 -0000 OK - finally got round to booking my seats to see the Cirque du Soleil tour in Birminghamon 12th March. Anyone else here gonna be around or maybe even working the show? Ynot ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <14.3bd5d8bb.2f097818 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:15:20 EST Subject: Re: Merry Christmas and God Bless Us Everyone! In a message dated 12/27/4 1:59:21 PM, sjh [at] idm.com wrote: <> When teaching K-5 music in Madison, WI a few years ago, I had a Jewish parent complain because I taught her child about Christmas (and sang Christmas songs) and a Christian parent complain that I taught her child about Chanukkah (and sang Chanukkah songs.) These children were in the same homeroom. The following week I did a survey of my students and found that about 80% celebrated secular Christmas/Santa Claus, about 50% celebrated sacred Christmas, about 20% celebrated Kwanzaa and about 10% celebrated Chanukkah. Several celebrated more than one, a three families celebrated all of them (Jewish moms married to Afro-American Christian dads) and two celebrated nothing (Jehova Witness). My selection of music reflected those percentages. Next year when the same moms came to complain, I showed the the data and politely explained my teaching reflected the varied cultures and practices of my students. Omitting any of them would be a slight to that group. Had no problems after that. Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: RE: Cirque in Brum (UK) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 12:41:49 -0500 I have friends with Cirque - which show are you seeing? -Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) > >OK - finally got round to booking my seats to see the Cirque du Soleil tour >in Birminghamon 12th March. Anyone else here gonna be around or maybe even >working the show? > >Ynot ------------------------------ Message-ID: <0cfc01c4f0f3$7ea68d20$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References: Subject: Re: Cirque in Brum (UK) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 17:50:01 -0000 Saltimbanco Are they touring with the UK show? Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delbert Hall" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: Re: Cirque in Brum (UK) > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I have friends with Cirque - which show are you seeing? > > -Delbert > > Delbert L. Hall > 423-773-HALL (4255) > > > > > >OK - finally got round to booking my seats to see the Cirque du Soleil tour > >in Birminghamon 12th March. Anyone else here gonna be around or maybe even > >working the show? > > > >Ynot > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: RE: More intel. prop. stuff Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 13:02:46 -0500 Hey Richard - as usual, you are a wealth of knowledge. On patents: The inventor of a new device has only 12 months after the invention is disclosed to apply for a patient. In Peter Foy's case, if the patent office included a patent for all counterweight systems with one of Peter performer flying systems, it could have voided the patents for both inventions when it was discovered that the mechanical counterweight system has been around a long time. From what I hear, the US copyright office is very understaffed and they issue a large number of patents that end up getting challenged. -Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) >However, as someone else in the discussion pinted out, you could get extra >claims tacked on to your patent if "unclaimed" by others. Peter >Foy used to tell the story about how when he applied for one of his >patents, the patent office tried to give him in the process the patent on >all counterweight rigging systems in the deal (Foy declined!) > ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Merry Christmas and God Bless Us Everyone! Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:03:08 -0500 Message-ID: <001501c4f0f5$57727870$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > < California (where > else?) got in trouble for handing out the Declaration of > Independence to his > students, because Jefferson mentions God in it? >> > > When teaching K-5 music in Madison, WI a few years ago, I had > a Jewish parent > complain because I taught her child about Christmas (and sang > Christmas > songs) and a Christian parent complain that I taught her > child about Chanukkah (and > sang Chanukkah songs.) In the California case, the issue wasn't that the teacher was using historical documents that meantioned G-d (although that's what he's now *claiming* was the issue); it was that he was using his position as a public school teacher to proselytize. Here's one of his assignments: http://www.eriposte.com/philosophy/fundamentalism/StevenWilliams_Easter_ assignment.jpg ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <6CE47553-5CE9-11D9-8DF6-003065555B26 [at] earthlink.net> From: Brendan Quigley Subject: Riverdance Taps Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:09:20 -0600 mornin' All ... so it's been written by my good friend John McKernon: >> For solo numbers, the audience hears the actual taps. To which Keith Arsenault replied: > i would have to beg to differ on that, , I saw a performance of > RIVERDANCE in > Chattanooga TN about three years ago where the solos and the taps bore > little > or no relationship to each other at times, and I wasn't sitting far > enough > away that any delay between the visual and the auditory would have > made a > difference, Sorry dude ... I spent a year and 300+ shows with the good folk at Riverdance. What John says is correct; and he's seen the show almost as many times as I have. ALL the taps were recorded (in Ireland) and were played back and the dancers stepped in time to them. Occasionally there were problems, but for the most part they were fine. A performance in Chattanooga 3 years ago wouldn't have been my production, but both shows had much in common, including the sound system. Soloists were shoe-mic'd for their respective dances, but the company weren't. Hate to burst that bubble ... Kind Regards, Brendan C. Quigley Vari*Lite Technician/Electrician WICKED - A New Broadway Musical ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Cirque in Brum (UK) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 13:10:57 -0500 I have friends with both Dralion and Quidam. Sorry, but I don't know anyone with Saltimbanco. I will ask my frinds if they know someone with that show. Cirque folks do shift around sometimes to handle folks going on vacation or taking personal time off. When are you seeing Saltimbanco? Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) >--------------------------------------------------- > >Saltimbanco ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 13:19:16 -0500 Subject: Re: More intel. prop. stuff From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: >> as long as there is no likelihood of confusion caused by similar type >> styles incorporated in the work or it's promotion, > > > Yeah, like that poor teen in Canada by the name of Mike Rowe, who had the > site named MikeRoweSoft.com who got beat up by some thugs from Redmond, > Washington..... ;) < Cynicism > Several years ago my brother started his software company and named it "True North". He was then taken to court by AT&T who objected to his use of the word "True". It seems they had over 50 trademarks using "True" (True Vision, True Connections, True voice &c.) They also sued MCI for using the phrase "True Rate" in their ads on the same grounds. In that case they were both phone companies, but in my brother's case there was no similarity. I don't know how exactly everything got settled in court, but I do know that in the end my brother was able to keep his name. The legal expenses however were astronomical. Big corporations with staff lawyers can use the system to intimidate independent small businesses regardless of whether they actually have a valid copyright or trademark claim. Imagine AT&T claiming to have exclusive ownership of the truth! "No one else may use the word 'True'." In this world, it's not only a question of whether someone has intellectual property you might be violating, but whether you can afford to fight the big boys should they decide to pick a fight - even though you may be in the right! < / Cynicism > -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 13:28:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Cirque in Brum (UK) From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Saltimbanco > > I think Mike Wilder (recently of the Emerson Majestic in Boston) is out with Saltimbanco. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41D83FA8.DA90A7A3 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 13:38:32 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: More intel. prop. stuff References: Bruce Purdy wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >> as long as there is no likelihood of confusion caused by similar type > >> styles incorporated in the work or it's promotion, > > > > > > Yeah, like that poor teen in Canada by the name of Mike Rowe, who had the > > site named MikeRoweSoft.com who got beat up by some thugs from Redmond, > > Washington..... ;) > > < Cynicism > > > Several years ago my brother started his software company and named it > "True North". He was then taken to court by AT&T who objected to his use of > the word "True". It seems they had over 50 trademarks using "True" (True > Vision, True Connections, True voice &c.) > > They also sued MCI for using the phrase "True Rate" in their ads on the > same grounds. In that case they were both phone companies, but in my > brother's case there was no similarity. > > I don't know how exactly everything got settled in court, but I do know > that in the end my brother was able to keep his name. The legal expenses > however were astronomical. > > Big corporations with staff lawyers can use the system to intimidate > independent small businesses regardless of whether they actually have a > valid copyright or trademark claim. Imagine AT&T claiming to have exclusive > ownership of the truth! "No one else may use the word 'True'." > > In this world, it's not only a question of whether someone has > intellectual property you might be violating, but whether you can afford to > fight the big boys should they decide to pick a fight - even though you may > be in the right! > > < / Cynicism > Unfortunately true. Disney does the exact same thing to attack anything that even remotely resembles an infringement. They file lawsuit after lawsuit, and usually just run the other side out of money. Acquaintance of mine bought a small mail order comic book operation from a fellow who was retiring. It had operated under the name mailbox books for 20+ years before he bought it. Few years after he got it, he got whacked with a lawsuit from some religious bookstore that had a similar name. The religious bookstore had noticed him when they went and tried to reserve all the dot.com names that were similar to theirs. Went to the lawyers, and his lawyers said he could fight it and win, but it would cost him $20-30K. For a side business that made only a few $K per year profit, it just wasn't worth it, and changed the name of the business, selling the domain name to the intolerant ones for a small amount of money. --Dale ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:29 GMT Subject: Re: Riverdance Taps Message-Id: <20050102.111554.17792.148322 [at] webmail18.lax.untd.com> 'Bursting bubbles', 'Calling bluffs', and 'Correcting misinformation' is EXACTLY what this this list is for, and it does it well, thank you. /s/Richard Hate to burst that bubble ... Brendan C. Quigley ________________________________________________________________ Juno Gift Certificates Give the gift of Internet access this holiday season. http://www.juno.com/give ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <30.6910fa0f.2f09a3d1 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:21:53 EST Subject: Re: Riverdance Taps In a message dated 1/2/05 2:18:20 PM, ladesigners [at] juno.com writes: >'Bursting bubbles', 'Calling bluffs', and 'Correcting misinformation' is >EXACTLY what this this list is for, and it does it well, thank you. >/s/Richard > >Hate to burst that bubble ... >Brendan C. Quigley how true, , how true, , but I have to tell ya, , as experienced eyes and ears that I would think that I am it really seemed like something was "off" with the soloists and their taps when I saw it. by the way,, if you ever have SPIRIT OF THE DANCE in your building , I understand that are super paranoid about anyone getting near the stage ( backstage ) or any where where they might find out that there are pre recorded taps being used. very best, Keith Arsenault ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Jason" References:

Subject: Re: More intel. prop. stuff Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:47:54 -0800 Goes to prove that there are to many attorneys looking for work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Farmer" >> --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Bruce Purdy wrote: > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > >> as long as there is no likelihood of confusion caused by similar type > > >> styles incorporated in the work or it's promotion, > > > > > > > > > Yeah, like that poor teen in Canada by the name of Mike Rowe, who had > > > the > > > site named MikeRoweSoft.com who got beat up by some thugs from > > > Redmond, > > > Washington..... ;) > > > > < Cynicism > > > > > Several years ago my brother started his software company and named > > it > > "True North". He was then taken to court by AT&T who objected to his use > > of > > the word "True". It seems they had over 50 trademarks using "True" (True > > Vision, True Connections, True voice &c.) > > > > They also sued MCI for using the phrase "True Rate" in their ads on > > the > > same grounds. In that case they were both phone companies, but in my > > brother's case there was no similarity. > > > > I don't know how exactly everything got settled in court, but I do > > know > > that in the end my brother was able to keep his name. The legal expenses > > however were astronomical. > > > > Big corporations with staff lawyers can use the system to intimidate > > independent small businesses regardless of whether they actually have a > > valid copyright or trademark claim. Imagine AT&T claiming to have > > exclusive > > ownership of the truth! "No one else may use the word 'True'." > > > > In this world, it's not only a question of whether someone has > > intellectual property you might be violating, but whether you can afford > > to > > fight the big boys should they decide to pick a fight - even though you > > may > > be in the right! > > > > < / Cynicism > > > Unfortunately true. Disney does the exact same thing to attack > anything > that > even remotely resembles an infringement. They file lawsuit after lawsuit, > and > usually just run the other side out of money. Acquaintance of mine bought > a > small mail order comic book operation from a fellow who was retiring. It > had operated under the name mailbox books for 20+ years before he bought > it. Few years after he got it, he got whacked with a lawsuit from some > religious bookstore that had a similar name. The religious bookstore had > noticed him when they went and tried to reserve all the dot.com names > that were similar to theirs. Went to the lawyers, and his lawyers said he > could fight it and win, but it would cost him $20-30K. For a side > business > that made only a few $K per year profit, it just wasn't worth it, and > changed > the name of the business, selling the domain name to the intolerant ones > for > a small amount of money. > > --Dale > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <0d2001c4f107$9807ce50$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References: Subject: Re: Cirque in Brum (UK) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 20:13:32 -0000 Saturday 12th March - evening show. Watched the 60-minute special on the Cirque last night here in Blighty. Enjoyed that, too. Thanks. TD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delbert Hall" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Cirque in Brum (UK) > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I have friends with both Dralion and Quidam. Sorry, but I don't know anyone > with Saltimbanco. I will ask my frinds if they know someone with that show. > Cirque folks do shift around sometimes to handle folks going on vacation > or taking personal time off. When are you seeing Saltimbanco? > > Delbert > > Delbert L. Hall > 423-773-HALL (4255) > > > >--------------------------------------------------- > > > >Saltimbanco > > > ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <30.691121d7.2f09baa6 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:59:18 EST Subject: Re: Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc Cc: IAEG [at] aol.com In a message dated 12/31/4 9:37:10 AM, IAEG [at] aol.com wrote: <> I thought that things from that time were life of "author" + 75 years... but know it got changed with Disney's stuff a few years ago. Richard??? Can you clarify? Kristi ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 16:02:08 -0500 From: IAEG [at] aol.com Subject: Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc Message-ID: <590558F6.79C34EA8.00002B9E [at] aol.com> kristi,, yes that may be true, , but most of the Puccini repertoire had fallen into public domain before that went into law, , I don't think you can " go backwards " keith ------------------------------ From: "Bill Brinsley" Subject: Cirque in Auckland (Quidam ) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:16:11 +1300 Organization: Light Fx Limited Message-ID: In-Reply-To: A bunch of us are seeing Quidam late January - any tips??? Bill Brinsley Light FX Auckland NZ. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Delbert Hall Sent: Monday, 3 January 2005 06:42 To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Cirque in Brum (UK) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I have friends with Cirque - which show are you seeing? -Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) > >OK - finally got round to booking my seats to see the Cirque du Soleil tour >in Birminghamon 12th March. Anyone else here gonna be around or maybe even >working the show? > >Ynot ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <157.4744215e.2f09c4b8 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:42:16 EST Subject: Re: Re: intellectual property - long post Cc: bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com In a message dated 12/30/4 11:36:11 AM, bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com wrote: << Is it OK to change elements of a show or not? Sometimes yes - sometimes no?>> Only with the advance (preferably written) permission of the copyright holder for your particular use. I've NEVER been told no when I've asked. Not certain if that's because they were all for educational shows or that my requests were "artstic" enough. Most things like changing the sex of a charactor or deleting/substuting swear words were handled with a single phone call and a fax afterwards to document it. Only had problem securing permission once when I was trying to do a reduced version of "Oliver!" from a middle school general music text book for public free performance and no one could tell me for certain that they were the grand rights holder for that version. The text book publisher said it was for "classroom use only, you'll need to contact the Grand Rights Holder" for permissions. Tams-Witmark [who has the full Broadway version] didn't have "that version as part of our holdings" and didn't know who had grand rights for that version. Went back to the text book folks and they couldn't tell me who had the grand rights for that version either. Finally just gave up and did a different show. Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41D86E86.6030308 [at] peak.org> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 13:58:30 -0800 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Albee / Beckett changes in productions/Merrily... References: In-Reply-To: Martha Kight wrote: >>...there are stories of productions of WHOSE AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOLF, , where >>it's two gay couples that I believe Albee shot down, , , (according to some >>that's the subtext of the play) > Anyone else run into the requirement that productions of "Virginia Woolf" > send photos and bios of the actors cast (I think Director bio, too)? That's > what happened to us here in Sacramento. Weird. I suppose if he doesn't like > the actors, Mister Albee just yoinks your rights?? > Pat? I know you played Martha up North after our poroduction.... There were no such requirements in our contract, just the usual "send copies of promotional materials." I know that some rights services impose different requirements on productions in major metropolitan areas than they do on those of us producing shows in Podunk, though ... -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003901c4f11a$0df17c30$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Albee / Beckett changes in productions/Merrily... Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:26:07 -0800 > I know that some rights services impose different requirements on > productions in major metropolitan areas than they do on those of us > producing shows in Podunk, though ... I have a friend in New York that used to work for a Major Licensing Company in their Musicals dept... they do keep notes on file regarding specific theatre companies, and unfortunately just being in the same state as a previous offender sometimes is enough for Major Licensing Company to raise an eyebrow at everything that comes across the desk, in this region. There was a particular production of Grease (which, like Martha, using my 'ethics' barometer, told be to jump ship) - Major Licensing Company issued a Cease and Desist because the director decided to 'fix' the problematic production. Thanks to that event, and others in the region (such as the "How To Succeed" situation where J Pierpont Finch was changed to a woman) - this whole region gets a lot more scrutiny than it used to. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 23:03:57 GMT Cc: IAEG [at] aol.com Subject: Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc Message-Id: <20050102.150431.3507.151998 [at] webmail03.lax.untd.com> Nowdays, it's life+95 years in most cases & corporate is still 100 yrs. /s/ Richard I thought that things from that time were life of "author" + 75 years... Richard??? Can you clarify? Kristi ________________________________________________________________ Juno Gift Certificates Give the gift of Internet access this holiday season. http://www.juno.com/give ------------------------------ Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE390244ACA08 [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu> From: "Immel,Patrick" Subject: Projection surfaces Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 17:09:03 -0600 Hello All, I have checked through the archives and haven't come up with what I need. I need to make an odd-shaped front projection screen. It is approx. 15' x 15' and will be framed with steel. There will be nothing behind it other than a full stage black curtain. Looking through my catalogs I have seen muslin that is over 15' wide. Has anybody used anything else? I am looking for something cost effective...as always! Thanks, Pat Immel Northwest Missouri State University ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 18:27:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Cirque in Auckland (Quidam ) From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 1/2/05 4:16 PM, Bill Brinsley at bill [at] lightfx.co.nz wrote: > A bunch of us are seeing Quidam late January - any tips??? Sit back, relax and enjoy. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41D88569.7040201 [at] StudioOneSB.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 18:36:09 -0500 From: Richard Bakos Organization: Studio One Inc. Subject: Re: Projection surfaces References: In-Reply-To: Look for a used screen on Ebay. I see a lot of od shaped screens go cheap Immel,Patrick wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Hello All, > >I have checked through the archives and haven't come up with what I need. I >need to make an odd-shaped front projection screen. It is approx. 15' x 15' >and will be framed with steel. There will be nothing behind it other than a >full stage black curtain. Looking through my catalogs I have seen muslin >that is over 15' wide. Has anybody used anything else? I am looking for >something cost effective...as always! > >Thanks, > >Pat Immel >Northwest Missouri State University > > > > -- Richard Bakos President Studio One Inc. 25833 State Road 2 South Bend, In 46619-4736 VOICE 574-232-9084 FAX 574-232-2220 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com www.StudioOnesb.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41D88C26.1C59705A [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:04:54 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: Projection surfaces References: "Immel,Patrick" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello All, > > I have checked through the archives and haven't come up with what I need. I > need to make an odd-shaped front projection screen. It is approx. 15' x 15' > and will be framed with steel. There will be nothing behind it other than a > full stage black curtain. Looking through my catalogs I have seen muslin > that is over 15' wide. Has anybody used anything else? I am looking for > something cost effective...as always! Don't know the price, but I've seen white spandex used for as a projection surface. Not very efficient as a projection surface, but it works. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050102160212.0297fc50 [at] localhost> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 16:07:23 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Isolated DMX512 Splitter Our Isolated DMX512 Splitter is now available for sale on our web site. We've already installed most of our first batch in an architectural application (RGB LED floodlights) and are building more. Comments/suggestions/spell-check always welcome. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <20.3b6f35b3.2f09e8f8 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:16:56 EST Subject: Re: Projection surfaces In a message dated 1/2/05 7:06:23 PM, dale [at] cybercom.net writes: >Don't know the price, but I've seen white spandex used for as a projection >surface. Not very efficient as a projection surface, but it works. Rosebrand has a white fabric,, not as stretchy as spandex called POLY SCREEN, , ( i am looking in a 2004 catalog, , but I don't see it ) I got it from them this summer and it work fine, , we did some custom sewing on it and made custom projection surfaces,, no complaints from the projection department very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-ID: <186f01c4f12a$a5173ae0$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References: Subject: FS (UK) S4 19 deg lens tubes Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 00:24:47 -0000 Having just changed out 4 of our existing S4 profiles from 19 to 26 deg lenses, I now have (surprisingly) 4 19 degree tubes available and un-wanted. As the only S4's I have form our front line (and will remain at that beam angle) and at present I don't expect to get any more, I see no reason to store them. So anyone in the UK want to make me an offer??? If not, I'll stick 'em on Ebay. Ynot ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Cirque in Auckland (Quidam ) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:38:04 -0500 The performer flying systems used in Quidam are unique in several respects: First, three tracks arch across the tent from upstage to downstage. Second, there are two independantly controlled trolleys that run on each track. Motors located upstage contol the location of the trolleys. IIRC, each trolley is controlled by it own 5HP AC motor. To fly a performer from upstage to downstage, and then lower the perfomer, requires cables to be attached to one trolley, then run through blocks on the second trolley and finally down to the performer. The travel of the performer is controlled by moving BOTH trolleys, but the height of the performer is controlled by moving only ONE of the trolleys. These trolley are re-rigged several times during the show so that the proper numbers of blocks and cables are rigged to meet the needs of each flying effect. The riggers stay pretty busy between scenes. Enjoy. -Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 02:28:35 GMT Subject: Re: More intel. prop. stuff Message-Id: <20050102.182851.15842.153469 [at] webmail10.lax.untd.com> Until I received the below statement, I had consistently found virtually all the mean-spirited actions that Disney management instructed their Legal Department to do were indefensible. Here is an exception. Unless a rightsholder vigorously defends their intellectual property from all potential infringers, they can, and often will, lose their exclusive rights to control the usage of their Trademarks, Service Marks, Trade Dress, and other protectable items. The items will then fall into the Public Domain forever. As ridiculous as it appears when we hear of some preschool told to remove the Mickey Mouse character painted on the side of their building, if Disney failed to send out a 'cease a desist' order upon hearing of the infringement, they could lose certain intellectual property rights. Warner Bothers is kindler and gentler in their protection of Bugs Bunny, but still effectively protect their intellectual property, by way of contrast. /s/ Richard Disney does the exact same thing to attack anything that even remotely resembles an infringement. --Dale ________________________________________________________________ Juno Gift Certificates Give the gift of Internet access this holiday season. http://www.juno.com/give ------------------------------ Message-ID: <886EF25AF8BEF64EB89A820EF84064FF069E0D85 [at] UCMAIL4> From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" Subject: RE: More intel. prop. stuff Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 21:48:19 -0500 But with a written request, they can let someone use their trademarked item and it would not jeopardize their future rights. At least I think that is correct. Steve Waxler Technical Director College Conservatory of Music University of Cincinnati (513) 556-3709 -----Original Message----- From: ladesigners [at] juno.com [mailto:ladesigners [at] juno.com] Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:29 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: More intel. prop. stuff For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Until I received the below statement, I had consistently found virtually all the mean-spirited actions that Disney management instructed their Legal Department to do were indefensible. Here is an exception. Unless a rightsholder vigorously defends their intellectual property from all potential infringers, they can, and often will, lose their exclusive rights to control the usage of their Trademarks, Service Marks, Trade Dress, and other protectable items. The items will then fall into the Public Domain forever. As ridiculous as it appears when we hear of some preschool told to remove the Mickey Mouse character painted on the side of their building, if Disney failed to send out a 'cease a desist' order upon hearing of the infringement, they could lose certain intellectual property rights. Warner Bothers is kindler and gentler in their protection of Bugs Bunny, but still effectively protect their intellectual property, by way of contrast. /s/ Richard ________________________________________________________________ Juno Gift Certificates Give the gift of Internet access this holiday season. http://www.juno.com/give ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 03:03:29 GMT Subject: Re: More intel. prop. stuff Message-Id: <20050102.190412.15842.153926 [at] webmail10.lax.untd.com> That is indeed correct. /s/ Richard But with a written request, they can let someone use their trademarked item and it would not jeopardize their future rights. At least I think that is correct. Steve Waxler Technical Director ________________________________________________________________ Juno Gift Certificates Give the gift of Internet access this holiday season. http://www.juno.com/give ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41D8BACD.1080501 [at] JosephCHansen.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:23:57 -0500 From: Barney Simon Subject: Re: Projection surfaces References:

In-Reply-To: > I've seen white spandex used for as a projection >surface. > Most spandex is not FR. Niether are ideal... what are you projecting? sharp crisp words? abstract colors and shapes? Barney Simon Drapes, Drops and Dance Floors ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 23:51:24 -0500 From: Michael Feinberg Subject: Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc >kristi,, yes that may be true, , but most of the Puccini repertoire >had fallen into public domain before that went into law, , I don't >think you can " go backwards " You'd think it would be true that you can't go backwards, but the government likes to find ways around that. I don't think something that has fallen into public domain can be taken out, but the rules certainly get changed retroactively for things that are not yet public domain. In 1998 copyrights were extended for works as far back as 1923, so it will be 2019 before _any_ music or TV enters the public domain again in the US. See this article in Wired: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.01/view.html?pg=5 -- -Michael Feinberg, CTS ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 05:23:35 GMT Subject: Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc Message-Id: <20050102.212430.599.146002 [at] webmail13.lax.untd.com> The only work that I can think of ever to rise again after falling into Public Domain was 'Peter Pan' by J.M. Barrie. Barrie gave the copyright to The Great Ormand Street Hospital for Sick Children (in London), perhaps the most compelling charity in the world. Spielberg paid $5 million to the hospital for the rights to produce 'Hook', coincident with an Act of Parliament and of the International Copyright Tribunal reviving the copyright in favor of the hospital. /s/ Richard I don't think something that has fallen into public domain can be taken out -Michael Feinberg, CTS ________________________________________________________________ Juno Gift Certificates Give the gift of Internet access this holiday season. http://www.juno.com/give ------------------------------ From: "Jeremiah Minh Greenblatt" Subject: RE: Puccini, Butterflies, etc Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 01:05:22 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c4f15a$38eb6c80$0300a8c0 [at] Roadbox> In-Reply-To: "The only work that I can think of ever to rise again after falling into Public Domain was 'Peter Pan' by J.M. Barrie. Barrie gave the copyright to The Great Ormand Street Hospital for Sick Children (in London), perhaps the most compelling charity in the world. Spielberg paid $5 million to the hospital for the rights to produce 'Hook', coincident with an Act of Parliament and of the International Copyright Tribunal reviving the copyright in favor of the hospital. /s/ Richard " Richard, just out of curiosity, was Spielberg compelled to pay the (legally resurrected) royalties after the fact? Was 'Hook' the first film adaptation of 'Pan' after the original rights had expired? More details please... - J.Minh ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 06:43:20 GMT Subject: Re: Puccini, Butterflies, etc Message-Id: <20050102.224420.599.146434 [at] webmail13.lax.untd.com> As far as I know, Spielberg was actually BEHIND the whole thing and was willing to pay for a period of exclusivity while benefiting one of the most compelling of charities in the world by assisting to provide for them a long term revenue stream... /s/ Richard Richard, just out of curiosity, was Spielberg compelled to pay the (legally resurrected) royalties after the fact? - J.Minh ________________________________________________________________ Juno Gift Certificates Give the gift of Internet access this holiday season. http://www.juno.com/give ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: fire in night club in argentina Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 23:50:45 -0800 Message-ID: <008301c4f168$eff23fe0$8d90fea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-Reply-To: Dale: in total agreement from my own experience with hotels and conventions centers. Back halls blocked, door chained, signage out, missing fire extinguishers, blocked exits, lack of proper lighting over exits inside and out, etc. Every major chain that I can think of in many countries. Doom -- Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. - www.riskit.com Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Dale Farmer Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 8:06 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: fire in night club in argentina For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Of the over 350 Nightclubs and discos I have investigated in my short > career, the same problems continue to exist, no matter what country. > After the station fire I visited over sixty restaurants, clubs and hotel > clubs in this country, and I observed the self same problems that were > in the Station fire. Management and patrons, a mix that does not seem to > have care for life, over profit. Doom Yup. I do a lot of gigs in hotels for conventions. The back of house hallways that we have to move all our stuff through to get from the loading dock to the function room are inevitably chock full of all sorts of random stuff. Tables, stacks of chairs, carts full of dirty dishes, piles of ice cubes and puddles around them, everything. These hallways are, almost always, fire escape routes. I make an effort to clear the pathways, and if I'm in some sort of leadership position on the gig, get the hotel to clear the back hallways. This is, unfortunately, viewed as being a pain in the butt by higher management, if not being told things like 'Stop f**ing off in the back hallway.' by them. I've nearly walked off of jobs because the hotel had fire doors chained shut and similar stupidity. Many of these times, I had to explain that on my way out the door I'd be calling the fire marshall to come and inspect the premises, who would likely levy a large fine in addition to closing the event. Safety is given lip service by all, but when it comes down to actually costing real money, it falls by the wayside more often than not. --Dale ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #247 *****************************