Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 15165114; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:00:36 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #265 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:00:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #265 1. Re: Caribeners (was quick links) by "Delbert Hall" 2. Salvaging JC in Denver by "Jonathan S. Deull" 3. Quick tips for building cubes by Al Fitch 4. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by "Jonathan S. Deull" 5. Re: Quick tips for building cubes by "Jon Ares" 6. Re: Quick tips for building cubes by "Scott C. Parker" 7. Re: Quick tips for building cubes by "Jon Ares" 8. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by Stephen Litterst 9. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by Howard Ires 10. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by Mark O'Brien 11. 2 scene by "CHIP WEINSTEIN" 12. Re: Quick tips for building cubes by Dale Farmer 13. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by Greg Bierly 14. Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles..... but not really by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 15. Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles..... but not really by Greg Bierly 16. Sect 11 vs 16 (was: Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles..... but not r by Mike Brubaker 17. Re: 2 scene by "Scott C. Parker" 18. Re: Sect 11 vs 16 by Greg Bierly 19. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by "Mike Rock" 20. static and plexi by "jknipple" 21. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by "jknipple" 22. Re: static and plexi by "Jeremiah Minh Greenblatt" 23. Re: static and plexi by "Stephen E. Rees" 24. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by Rich Lindsay 25. Re: static and plexi by "Curt Mortimore" 26. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by "Matthew Breton" 27. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by "Paul Schreiner" 28. Re: static and plexi by "Curt Mortimore" 29. Re: static and plexi by Dale Farmer 30. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by joe 31. Re: static and plexi by "jknipple" 32. New speakers for sale by Mike Voytko 33. Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work by roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com 34. Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work by Herrick Goldman 35. Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work by roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com 36. On-line Portfolios by roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com 37. Re: On-line Portfolios by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 38. Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work by Herrick Goldman 39. Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work by MissWisc [at] aol.com 40. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by MissWisc [at] aol.com 41. USITT Housing by Mark O'Brien 42. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by Greg Bierly 43. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by MissWisc [at] aol.com 44. Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work by roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com 45. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice, another view. by Steve Boone 46. Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work by "Andrew Vance" 47. Re: Ladders & Lifts by Chris Fretts 48. Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work by "Kevin Hardy" 49. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice by "Delbert Hall" 50. Re: On-line Portfolios by jonares [at] hevanet.com 51. Re: On-line Portfolios by Mat Goebel 52. Re: ladders and Lifts general practice, another view. by Samuel Jones 53. Re: On-line Portfolios by Herrick Goldman 54. Re: On-line Portfolios by Michael Beyer 55. Re: On-line Portfolios by Mat Goebel 56. Seating Help! by "Medley, Robert" 57. Re: Seating Help! by Dale Farmer 58. Re: Seating Help! by "Joker7" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Caribeners (was quick links) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:35:24 -0500 Without knowing specifically what carabiner was recommended, it is impossible to make a judgement. There are steel locking carabiners that are rated for fall arrest useage. If this type of carabiner is being used, it will certainly meet the requirements of this application. One more note on quicklinks: my Petzl fall arrest harness uses a quicklink (supplied by the manufacturer) to connect the shoulder straps to the waist band and leg straps. -Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) ------------------------------ From: "Jonathan S. Deull" Subject: Salvaging JC in Denver Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:19:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To anyone in the Denver area: The current national tour of JC Superstar (which has been on the road on and off since 2002) is going to close on January 30 at the Buell. This is the bitter end for this tour, and the show is planning to dump most if not all of the scenery, props and possibly costumes. If there is anyone in the area who would like to salvage any of this stuff before it gets tossed, please let me know. Jonathan Deull Clark Transfer, Inc. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050119133032.28158.qmail [at] web51401.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 05:30:32 -0800 (PST) From: Al Fitch Subject: Quick tips for building cubes In-Reply-To: Does anyone have any quick tips for building cubes out of 1/2" ply to be used as seats. Size will be 18X18" Whenever I make boxes, I always screw up a measurement along the way and supporting them from the inside is always a time eating activity. Thanks, Al Fitch ===== Be Kind, Smile and Have Fun. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Jonathan S. Deull" Subject: RE: ladders and Lifts general practice Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:42:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I very recently did a show at a small rep theatre and watched the young TD, who was used to working ALONE, climb up on his 18' castered A-frame, wrap his legs around the top rung of the extension, and scoot around the theatre faster than you could say... well, use your imagination. In designing the new studio theatre at our high school we specified a tension-wire grid to address the problem of kids-at-height. (I know we could have a whole thread on this topic as well.) Unfortunately, the budget and engineering intervened, and we ended up with a fixed pipe grid at 22'. The tradeoff for giving up the pipe grid is that we will end up with 2-person scissor lift as our principal means of access. Jonathan Deull Edmund Burke School ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001101c4fe31$227df830$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Quick tips for building cubes Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:14:05 -0800 > > Whenever I make boxes, I always screw up a measurement > along the way and supporting them from the inside is > always a time eating activity. > Hi Al. Give me a couple of hours this morn, and I'll send you (privately) some drawings - I've done quite a lot of 'rehearsal cubes' - 18x18" - out of 3/8" ply and internally supported - and very strong. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050119093035.0316ed00 [at] mail.hstech.org> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:31:44 -0500 From: "Scott C. Parker" Subject: Re: Quick tips for building cubes In-Reply-To: References:

Hey Jon, Would you consider allowing me to post your drawings to the www.hstech.org web site? Scott At 09:14 AM 1/19/2005, you wrote: >Hi Al. Give me a couple of hours this morn, and I'll send you (privately) >some drawings - I've done quite a lot of 'rehearsal cubes' - 18x18" - out >of 3/8" ply and internally supported - and very strong. > > -- Jon Ares >Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts >www.hevanet.com/acreative >www.wlhstheatre.org Scott C. Parker Production Designer/Technical Director High School Tech Production Web Site hstech~AT~hstech.org High Schoolers: come visit the HS Tech Web Site... http://www.hstech.org Our Mission: To assist High School Technical Theater students in their desire to learn about, create, and execute theatrical productions. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001901c4fe34$36fa3be0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Quick tips for building cubes Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:36:08 -0800 You betcha. Check your in-box. (For anyone who gets or views this drawing - I use 3/8" Sanded Shop ply for the cubes. I don't think it says that on the drawing.) -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. Parker" > > Hey Jon, > Would you consider allowing me to post your drawings to the www.hstech.org > web site? > Scott ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:05:28 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice Message-id: <41EE7738.66479CD5 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: "Jonathan S. Deull" wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I very recently did a show at a small rep theatre and watched the young TD, > who was used to working ALONE, climb up on his 18' castered A-frame, wrap > his legs around the top rung of the extension, and scoot around the theatre > faster than you could say... well, use your imagination. I used to do that, until one day the A-frame kept moving and left me hanging from the grid. We haven't really addressed the issue of how to change this practice, and I'd have to suggest that the solution to change is through education. As soon as I realized the ladder could leave me up or take me down, I stopped working that way. Learning of accidents where Genies have tipped because of unsafe practices keeps me continually looking at the way I use the lift. Unfortunately, so many of us believe "it could never happen to me" that I'm not sure how to educate those folks. Maybe pictures of accidents, so folks understand that the TD two states away (or across the ocean) is just like them? And another part of education is using the education system we have. Within the secondary and higher ed communities, teaching the next generation of technician safe and efficient working practices. It won't change things overnight, but it can certainly help. Steve Litterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41EE7DFB.8000200 [at] hillinteractive.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:34:19 -0500 From: Howard Ires Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice References:

In-Reply-To: Stephen Litterst wrote: >>I very recently did a show at a small rep theatre and watched the young TD, >>who was used to working ALONE, climb up on his 18' castered A-frame, wrap >>his legs around the top rung of the extension, and scoot around the theatre >>faster than you could say... well, use your imagination. > > > I used to do that, until one day the A-frame kept moving and left me > hanging from the grid. > I worked on castered A ladders all the time 20-30 years ago, and I have always prided myself on my strong will to live. However, I would never go up on one without two attentive stagehands keeping their hands on the thing at all times. If the casters are set outward of the legs and the two (or better yet four) stagehands pushing the thing around are paying attention it was no more dangerous than the other things we did 20-30 years ago. I think what really doomed the castered A ladder in NYC was the fact that it was cheaper to rent a Genie than pay for 2 more stagehands to push around a ladder. ----------------h ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <240C019E-6A33-11D9-BACB-000393897332 [at] email.arizona.edu> Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:59:46 -0700 I had a ladder that was with me on a show. I threw it out in North Carolina, but someone somehow loaded it on the Caribiner truck, and sent it to the warehouse in Jersey. The guy in the warehouse knew I was on a show in Orlando, and helpfully put it on the truck to greet me. I chucked it again in Orlando, and the TD carefully ( I guess ) pulled it, hid it, and shipped it back to Jersey. Then, a few months later, it showed up on a show in Hawaii. At this point I took out the sawzall , and chopped it to bits, carefully saving a piece to Fedex back to my TD friend in NY. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Jan 18, 2005, at 8:47 PM, Curt Mortimore wrote: > As far as how to prevent use of such equipment. I have, on more than > one > occasion, found that cordless saws, late nights and conveniently > located > dumpsters make light work of offending caster platforms and any wooden > fiberglass or aluminum ladders that others may be hesitant to retire. > Check when the dumpster gets emptied and that sucker will be miles away > before anyone even knows it's gone. > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004c01c4fe3e$2b5a9280$60a83dd0 [at] bna.bellsouth.net> From: "CHIP WEINSTEIN" References: Subject: 2 scene Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:47:24 -0600 Hello, The theatre that I do most of the lighting at has an express 24/48 with 24 dimmers. We do several hundred shows a year of all types and use the board in 2 scene and 1 scene with subs. The problem that I have is that I do not have crossfade between scenes and subs , or being able to mix between cues,subs, and channels or effects. CHIP WEINSTEIN TECHNICAL DIRECTOR BELCOURT THEATRE www.belcourt.org chip [at] belcourt.org -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 1/17/05 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41EE898E.4E0CE9BB [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:23:42 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: Quick tips for building cubes References: Al Fitch wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Does anyone have any quick tips for building cubes out > of 1/2" ply to be used as seats. Size will be 18X18" > > Whenever I make boxes, I always screw up a measurement > along the way and supporting them from the inside is > always a time eating activity. > > Thanks, > > Al Fitch I'd prefer to use 3/4 plywood, but it is strong enough for this.. Get yourself a bunch or 2x2 stock. ( I usually have plenty of 2x4 around, so just ripping it in half on the table saw works. ) Cut it to lengths. 17 inches long and about 14 inches long. ( the second length you have to derive experimentally, depending on what the finished dimensions of your wood stock is. ) Cut plywood squares. some of them are 18 inch squares, some of them are 17x 17.5 inch not-squares. lay an 18 inch square on the worktable. Lay inside around the edges, to make a frame the thickness of your plywood inside of the edge of the plywood from your 2x2x17 stock. Nail or screw this frame and plywood together. This is the bottom of the cube. Make another one to be your top as well. Take four not-squares. Stand them up on the side and screw them into the frame of the bottom. Orient the longer side running horizontal, one edge should be flush with the outside edge of the bottom plywood, the other edge should be flush with the outside edge of the frame on the bottom piece. Repeat three more times. Take the top piece, and lay this on the top of your partly assembled cube. Measure the distance between the top and bottom frames. ( this is easiest to do when you have two of the sides attached. ) Cut four pieces of 2x2 exactly that long and screw them into the four corners of the side of the cube. Then screw down your top piece. Sand, prime and paint. Enhancements: If you are making lots of these things, I suggest putting some temporary positioning jigs on your bench to mass produce the bottom pieces and the side pieces with the frame pieces pre attached. Cutting some hand holes into the sides, painting the tops and bottoms different colors will help keep them oriented upright, where they are a bit stronger. Lots easier to handle too. Don't forget to sand and paint the inside of the handle holes. Painting them while they are still in pieces will also be a lot easier, especaily if you wish to paint different surfaces different colors. Putting some 1/4 round wood trim along the edges ( which will force a change of all the dimensions above) will make them a lot less splintery in daily use. Especially if this is for a kid-freindly venue. --Dale ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <4F1FB788-6A37-11D9-A6F3-000D936BFA94 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:29:36 -0500 > Unfortunately, so many of us believe "it could never happen to me" > that I'm not sure how to educate those folks. Maybe pictures of > accidents, so folks understand that the TD two states away (or across > the ocean) is just like them? for graphic pictures check out: http://safetycenter.navy.mil/photo/default.htm They have a weekly archive of "stupid" accidents, and work practices. I am not sure if I got this link from this list or elsewhere but I have found it a very useful tool for my students. BTW there are quite a few examples of "unsafe" ladders. My personal favorite is the soaked guy standing barefoot on the aluminum ladder in a pool using a CORDED electric drill, wearing safety goggles. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles..... but not really Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:45:25 -0500 on 1/18/05 CB wrote: Subject: Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles >S--i--g--h. Why is that the person who really knows what's needed in a new >building never gets hired until after the building is completed? Because 'they' have noticed that it is far cheaper to build to idiots specs than to build to actual specs. Your way would have cost more, therefore it must be wrong... ; > I like to think I work at the poster child of that situation. In our case the "owner" had no idea what they were doing. Until the building was complete and the problems appeared there was no one employed by the City who had any idea how this incredibly complex machine we call a theatre was supposed to work. It wasn't `til after the train wreck that 'they' figured out someone with a clue (watch those puns Chris) might be a useful addition to the staff. I say it again: even the best consultants in the world are useless if the architect isn't paying attention. The consultants should be helping you first so make sure it's your name on their paycheck and watch out for the Section 11 vs. Section 16 dance. Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ********** E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act. ********** ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles..... but not really Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:01:13 -0500 > watch out for the > Section 11 vs. Section 16 dance. Can you educate me on Section 11 and 16? Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.0.20050119122325.01c15248 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:28:54 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Sect 11 vs 16 (was: Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles..... but not really) In-Reply-To: References:

Generally speaking, construction specifications are broken down into discreet sections that deal with general trades. Division 5, for example, is Miscellaneous Metals. Section 11, then, is "Equipment." Theatre equipment generally starts around 11060. Section 16 is Electrical. A dimming system specified in Section 11 is supplied as equipment and, generally, installation is "assigned" to the electrical contractor. Generally, however, the electrical contractor does not have anything invested in that equipment other than installation. A dimming system specified in Section 16, on the other hand, is purchased through the electrical contractor. The E.C. is then responsible for both acquisition of the specified equipment and for its installation. Mike At 12:01 PM 1/19/2005, Greg Bierly wrote: >>watch out for the >>Section 11 vs. Section 16 dance. > >Can you educate me on Section 11 and 16? ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050119122032.02aab960 [at] mail.hstech.org> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:31:03 -0500 From: "Scott C. Parker" Subject: Re: 2 scene In-Reply-To: References:

Chip, we did the same thing in our blackbox theater. One thing that I have found very helpful that I wanted to share. I wrote three macros: 1) change mode to 48 channel single scene. 2) change mode to 24 channel two scene, 3) change mode to single scene with submasters. The macros allowed us to increase our programming efficiency greatly. One thing to remember is that you can record a sub while you are in 48 channel single scene mode. During the show use: Running the submasters during a blackout is quite easy. Running the submasters during a cue requires some experimentation. Take care, Scott At 10:47 AM 1/19/2005, you wrote: >We do several hundred shows a year of all types and use the board >in 2 scene and 1 scene with subs. The problem that I have is that I do not >have crossfade between scenes and subs , or being able to mix between >cues,subs, and channels or effects. Scott C. Parker Production Designer/Technical Director High School Tech Production Web Site hstech~AT~hstech.org High Schoolers: come visit the HS Tech Web Site... http://www.hstech.org Our Mission: To assist High School Technical Theater students in their desire to learn about, create, and execute theatrical productions. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <9ABCD294-6A43-11D9-A6F3-000D936BFA94 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Sect 11 vs 16 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:57:37 -0500 Thanks that is what I wanted to know. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000501c4fe51$d39e0090$8c6c1745 [at] Fred> From: "Mike Rock" References: Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:08:06 -0600 To everyone that said lowering a lift or getting off a ladder takes to long, when was the last time you had to bounce focus? The tallest ladder my highschool theater has is a 7 footer, so electrics need to be brought in lights moved then brought out and repeated untill it looks right. When the set is in the way of the electrics we bring out the ladder and a broom handle or large stick and move the lighs around, not elegent but we have little choice. The school owns a lift but likes to have it collect dust, only using it to change light bulbs. More of an insurance thing I'm sure but still. Mike Rock ------------------------------ Subject: static and plexi Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:06:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: "jknipple" Once again, I come to the list for wisdom regarding plexi. We're having an issue with static on the plexi. Every piece of dust near = the plexi wants to cling to it, and we need it clean to lightly dust it = with spray paint. Does anyone know of a way to uncharged the plexi? I = know that time will do this exentually, but I don't really have time at = the moment. Any ideas, anyone? Thanks again. Jim James Knipple =A0 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 ------------------------------ Subject: RE: ladders and Lifts general practice Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:11:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: "jknipple" Don't forget that there's alcohol (the kind you drink, not the kind you use to clean steel) in the background of that picture! James Knipple =20 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 My personal favorite is the soaked guy=20 standing barefoot on the aluminum ladder in a pool using a CORDED=20 electric drill, wearing safety goggles. ------------------------------ From: "Jeremiah Minh Greenblatt" Subject: RE: static and plexi Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:14:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c4fe5b$0fb70c30$0300a8c0 [at] Roadbox> In-Reply-To: Would it help to ground the piece? I'm thinking of a pair of vice-grips or something connected to one corner with a spool of wire coming off or something. No idea if this will work. - J.Minh ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41EEB534.9010905 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:29:56 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: static and plexi References: Static Guard. Ask the costume shop. Steve jknipple wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Once again, I come to the list for wisdom regarding plexi. > > We're having an issue with static on the plexi. Every piece of dust near the plexi wants to cling to it, and we need it clean to lightly dust it with spray paint. Does anyone know of a way to uncharged the plexi? I know that time will do this exentually, but I don't really have time at the moment. > > Any ideas, anyone? > > Thanks again. > > Jim > > > James Knipple > > Technical Director > REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage > Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College > - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts > jknipple [at] howardcc.edu > 410-772-4451 > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:39:19 -0500 From: Rich Lindsay Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: how bout those pushing around a genie lift also :) --On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:43 PM -0500 MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > > Climb the ladder multiple times. Have someone hold it whle you're up > there. Better yet, get a Genie lift and let the machine do the work. > That's what it's made for. And keep the outriggers deployed. > > Kristi > > ------------------------------ Subject: RE: static and plexi Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:42:57 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Curt Mortimore" Jim, Check with your local restaurant supplier or your local paintball = headquarters. Ask for acrylic cleaner and polish, there are several = products out there that do exactly what you are asking for. Curtis L. Mortimore Graceland University 1 University Place Lamoni, IA 50140 (641) 784-5265 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of = jknipple Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 1:07 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: static and plexi For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Once again, I come to the list for wisdom regarding plexi. We're having an issue with static on the plexi. Every piece of dust near = the plexi wants to cling to it, and we need it clean to lightly dust it = with spray paint. Does anyone know of a way to uncharged the plexi? I = know that time will do this exentually, but I don't really have time at = the moment. Any ideas, anyone? Thanks again. Jim James Knipple =A0 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:43:53 -0500 ><do >so, for one simple reason: the convenience outweighs the risk.>> >Oh Matt! Please no. The risk is you DIE. Any "inconvenience" pales in >comparison. I'm going to play devil's advocate here :) But the risk of falling is already assumed when you climb up a ladder, scaffold, or genie, whether it's being pushed around, or not. The real difference -- the increased risk of accident -- is probably incalculable. Now, most folks I know who opt to use castered A-frames set up some working parameters to minimize risk: having multiple people push it, not moving at full extension, and so forth. Where I come from, the castered A-frame was taken for granted: in fact, more than a few students didn't realize that the ladder could come off the castered platform. And the platform was often called a "scooter" or a "skateboard," adding to the carefreeness of it all. That, I think, more than anything is why people still caster ladders. Me, I'm a scaffolding kid at heart. Good scaffolding only takes a few minutes to put together (and it's a fun team-building exercise, too). Hanging drapes on a dead-hung batten rocks on scaff, but sucks hardcore on a ladder, castered or not. You can pack cargo on scaff, making it much easier to run lengths of multicable across the theatre. It can support work crews at different levels, or large crews all at the top level; it's *awesome* for taking an entire crew of new lighting techs up the scaff and show them all how to hang and focus. Scaff can even double as scenery if need be! :) Just so you know where my heart (and work ethics) are, Kristi :) -- Matt ====== _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Subject: RE: ladders and Lifts general practice Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:45:59 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C6A5 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > My personal favorite is the soaked guy=20 > standing barefoot on the aluminum ladder in a pool using a CORDED=20 > electric drill, wearing safety goggles. Where's the link for that one? I haven't found it yet... ------------------------------ Subject: RE: static and plexi Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:47:38 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Curt Mortimore" Jim, I spoke a bit soon. Here is a link to a product I have used in the past = that works really well. Requires a certain amount of elbow grease to get = it polished good but provides a finished piece that is clean and does = not attract dust. http://www.plexusplasticcleaner.com/ Hope this helps Curtis L. Mortimore Graceland University 1 University Place Lamoni, IA 50140 (641) 784-5265 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of = jknipple Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 1:07 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: static and plexi For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Once again, I come to the list for wisdom regarding plexi. We're having an issue with static on the plexi. Every piece of dust near = the plexi wants to cling to it, and we need it clean to lightly dust it = with spray paint. Does anyone know of a way to uncharged the plexi? I = know that time will do this exentually, but I don't really have time at = the moment. Any ideas, anyone? Thanks again. Jim James Knipple =A0 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41EEB980.124F486E [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:48:16 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: static and plexi References: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of jknipple > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 1:07 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: static and plexi > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Once again, I come to the list for wisdom regarding plexi. > > We're having an issue with static on the plexi. Every piece of dust near the plexi wants to cling to it, and we need it clean to lightly dust it with spray paint. Does anyone know of a way to uncharged the plexi? I know that time will do this exentually, but I don't really have time at the moment. > > Any ideas, anyone? > > Thanks again. > > Jim You could lightly mist with water and then wipe with lint free rags. But you need to go to a relatively dust free area, otherwise new dust will glom right onto it. That is one of the reasons painting booths are so expensive, lots of filters on the air. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41EEBB74.6040408 [at] foou.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:56:36 -0500 From: joe Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice References: In-Reply-To: Paul Schreiner wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>My personal favorite is the soaked guy >>standing barefoot on the aluminum ladder in a pool using a CORDED >>electric drill, wearing safety goggles. >> >> > >Where's the link for that one? I haven't found it yet... > > I believe this is the image: http://five.foou.net/~joe/photo34.jpg -Joe -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 ------------------------------ Subject: RE: static and plexi Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:05:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "jknipple" Thanks for the quick suggestions. I think we found a process that works. For those interested, we wiped it with a wet towel first, and then grounded it by attaching one end of some copper wire to an electrical conduit and running the other end (coiled) over the plexi. I wasn't sure it would work, but it does. The only issue is some minor scratches, but since we've frosted the plexi anyhow, some light sanding takes it right out. Thanks! Jim James Knipple =20 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 >Would it help to ground the piece? I'm thinking of a pair of vice-grips or >something connected to one corner with a spool of wire coming off or >something. No idea if this will work. > >- J.Minh ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5EBA75A2-6A59-11D9-AB90-003065864964 [at] nyu.edu> From: Mike Voytko Subject: New speakers for sale Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:33:25 -0500 Hi all, I am looking to sell a new, never used pair of Mackie SRM450 active speakers. Asking $1100 + ship./ins. for the pair. Mfr's product details: http://www.mackie.com/products/srm450/index.html Please contact me off-list if interested. Thanks, MV -- Mike Voytko Lighting & Sound Supervisor TSOA Theatrical Production New York University ------------------------------ From: roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com Subject: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:12:11 -0600 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: I was just laid off from the company I was working at for 5 years. I had intended to do outside design work while I was employed but alas that never accrued. I now find my self wanting to actually make my living as a designer rather than building scenery and designing on the side.=20 I was hoping people on the list could share there wisdom regarding the process of getting work as a designer. Is it required to have an in with the company? Have you had luck just sending out letters and resumes stating you are available for work? Do you have tips on when to send your resume as well as just who to send it to? I have for years thought of my self as a designer and now realize that I need to act like one not just play one on TV. Rob Johnson =46reelance Set and Lighting Designer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:34:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Great! More competition! Damn.... Hey congratulations. The "I'll take a salary and design on the side" thing hardly ever works. Eventually you either get resentful that the salary gig abuses your time, or they actually let you out but then they need you and you have tech that day. It only gets ugly. I've tried a million different ways to do this and I have found that 90% of it is being in the right place at the right time. Seriously. Go to staged Readings and help out with the 2 or 3 lights they have. Get in on the ground floor of a show. Do Send resumes. The Regional Theater Directory is a great place to start. Of the hundreds and hundreds of resumes I have sent I've gotten hits on maybe 5%-7%. But that's not bad. Especially if you can build on the relationships you get out of those. On occasion those calls were because someone quit or got a better show or had to be let go at the last minute and they need someone to bail them out. If you are in a large city with Theater Festivals, do those as well. You want the young directors as they are coming up. The Established directors have Billington's and Posner's phone number so even if you do a small show, they may go over your head when the big ones come around. Many on this list know me as the guy who frequents bars and is a social butterfly. Go out in your theater district and hang out. You'd be surprised who you find. I was watching football last week in a bar and a woman sitting next to me turned out to be a choreographer who had danced with Nureyev. She's creating a new ballet and now has my business card. Hope that helps. Do me a favor and advertise yourself as a set designer will ya? Best, _Herrick On 1/19/05 16:12, "roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com" wrote: > I was hoping people on the list could share there wisdom regarding the > process of getting work as a designer. > > > Rob Johnson > Freelance Set and Lighting Designer > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com Subject: Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:59:54 -0600 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: LOL I wouldn't worry to much about loosing lighting jobs I am mostly interested in set design. But I like to keep my options open. Couple of things you should know about me.=20 I live in Minneapolis, MN. I have done design work as part of my salary jobs. It just never bloomed into much more for the vary reason's you talked about. Not enough time to find other work and if I did when would I do the work the side job required.=20 I think my biggest fear with doing freelance work is the having to go from gig to gig with out knowing what will happen in between.=20 Thanks, Rob Johnson =46reelance Set and Lighting Designer On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:34:12 -0500, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Great! More competition! Damn.... > >Hey congratulations. The "I'll take a salary and design on the side" = thing >hardly ever works. Eventually you either get resentful that the salary = gig >abuses your time, or they actually let you out but then they need you = and >you have tech that day. It only gets ugly. > >I've tried a million different ways to do this and I have found that 90%= of >it is being in the right place at the right time. Seriously. Go to = staged >Readings and help out with the 2 or 3 lights they have. Get in on the = ground >floor of a show. Do Send resumes. The Regional Theater Directory is a = great >place to start. Of the hundreds and hundreds of resumes I have sent I've >gotten hits on maybe 5%-7%. But that's not bad. Especially if you can = build >on the relationships you get out of those. On occasion those calls were >because someone quit or got a better show or had to be let go at the = last >minute and they need someone to bail them out. > >If you are in a large city with Theater Festivals, do those as well. You >want the young directors as they are coming up. The Established = directors >have Billington's and Posner's phone number so even if you do a small = show, >they may go over your head when the big ones come around. > >Many on this list know me as the guy who frequents bars and is a social >butterfly. Go out in your theater district and hang out. You'd be = surprised >who you find. I was watching football last week in a bar and a woman = sitting >next to me turned out to be a choreographer who had danced with Nureyev. >She's creating a new ballet and now has my business card. > >Hope that helps.=20 > >Do me a favor and advertise yourself as a set designer will ya? > >Best, > >_Herrick > > > > > > >On 1/19/05 16:12, "roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com" wrote: > >> I was hoping people on the list could share there wisdom regarding the >> process of getting work as a designer. >>=20 >> > Rob Johnson >> Freelance Set and Lighting Designer >>=20 >>=20 ------------------------------ From: roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com Subject: On-line Portfolios Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:07:14 -0600 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Hello, Anyone here have experience with them? If so what are your thoughts? Do you have a program or web service you like or do you prefer to set it up your self and just post it to a web space? Is there any software you like to do this or is a good image program and Acrobat good enough? I have lots of picture of my work and am really good with a scanner. I would be tempted to put together something with MS Publisher and then posts stuff to the web space that comes with my ISP. Yes I am a Microsoft user. Rob Johnson =46reelance Set and Lighting Designer ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: On-line Portfolios Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c4fe73$d4886820$6401a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Anyone here have experience with them? If so what are your > thoughts? Do you have a program or web service you like or do > you prefer to set it up your self and just post it to a web > space? Mine is on my web site (http://www.jeffsalzberg.com -- comments and/or criticism always welcomed), and I burn it to CD to send to interested producers. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:14:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Got a wrench? Just don't sling it in the regionals you want to work for. But Corporate and IA houses are probably ok and you won't get labeled ME. Not that that's a bad thing. On 1/19/05 16:59, "roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com" wrote: > > I think my biggest fear with doing freelance work is the having to go > from gig to gig with out knowing what will happen in between. > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <84.3d3eb03a.2f2035bd [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:14:21 EST Subject: Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work Cc: roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com Rob - If the mn.rr in your email address means you are in Minnesota, I suggest you grab your portfolio and some resumes and come to the State Theatre Auditions in Madison, WI next month. The University of Wisconsin sponsors them every spring and many theatres from the midwest, along with several national organizations, have interviews/auditions. You'd can also get feedback on your application materials. Don't forget about opportunities that use smiliar skills like designing store windows, expo displays, and the like. Ask local business owners who does their window displays. Offer to do a few for the exposure (pun intended!) and put an 8x10 of your business card in the lower corner of the window. Call local high schools/colleges and see if they ever hire outside designers. Call churches to see if they need someone to design for Easter/passion plays. Get involved with the IATSE in your area as a permit worker. I know it's not your goal, but you have usable skills and will make great contacts. In this in dustry it IS who you know. Herrick's tale is typical. Give me a buzz when you make it to WI. :) HTH Kristi R-C ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1e6.3320a328.2f2035ca [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:14:34 EST Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice Cc: rlindsay [at] umich.edu You mean the people on the ground moving it? In a message dated 1/19/5 1:39:59 PM, rlindsay [at] umich.edu writes: << how bout those pushing around a genie lift also :) --On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:43 PM -0500 MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > Climb the ladder multiple times. Have someone hold it whle you're up > there. Better yet, get a Genie lift and let the machine do the work. > That's what it's made for. And keep the outriggers deployed. > > Kristi >> ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <0F26D09A-6A68-11D9-BACB-000393897332 [at] email.arizona.edu> Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: USITT Housing Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:18:34 -0700 Before I book my housing through the USITT site, I am wondering if anyone has any ideas for hotels, not attached to the convention center. Anyone from Toronto here? For the money, it looks like I can do well if I am a few blocks away, Also I like hotels that look like something different than the same hotel in Cleveland. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:38:55 -0500 >> >> Where's the link for that one? I haven't found it yet... >> > I believe this is the image: http://five.foou.net/~joe/photo34.jpg > > -Joe That is the one but it is also at http://safetycenter.navy.mil/photo/archive/photo34.htm called: "can do" at its worst 5/13/02 Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:44:05 EST Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice Cc: theatricalmatt [at] hotmail.com In a message dated 1/19/5 1:45:24 PM, theatricalmatt [at] hotmail.com writes: <> I'd bet some insurance actuary somewhere has a number to offer for that. Dr. Doom might even have some statistics. I know he and Jay Stone keep records. As you so beautifully pointed out, Matt, we never make the risks totally go away -- there is always some danger present. This is the real world and people will get hurt occasionally. There are things we can do to make injuries less likely to happen. As prudent individuals who know the risks, it's imperative we do everything in our power to make the situation as safe as possible - even if it means saying, "I'm not going to do that." Take the ladder off the casters - makes it safer. Have trained people supporting the ladder - makes it safer that before. Use a Genie lift properly instead of the ladder - even less chance of a fall. Heck, I could be standing flat on the stage and fall. It's all about making it less likely to happen. <> Herein lies the crux of the problem. It's assumed it's OK because it's been done that way for years. It's not OK anymore. We need to help spread the word. << Just so you know where my heart (and work ethics) are, Kristi :)>> I never doubted your heart nor work ethics, Matt! I just hate funerals. Stagecraft needs all the good people it can keep. The mom in me along with years of teaching means when I see/hear people doing something potentially unsafe, I'm gonna let them know. Kristi ------------------------------ From: roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com Subject: Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:47:00 -0600 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Kristi, Yes the MN stands for Minnesota.=20 thanks for the info on the State Theatre Auditions. I had forgotten about them. I am originally form Kenosha, WI an graduated for UW Parkside way back when. I'll call you when I make it down rob On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:14:21 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Rob -=20 > >If the mn.rr in your email address means you are in Minnesota, I suggest= you=20 >grab your portfolio and some resumes and come to the State Theatre = Auditions=20 >in Madison, WI next month. The University of Wisconsin sponsors them = every=20 >spring and many theatres from the midwest, along with several national=20 >organizations, have interviews/auditions. You'd can also get feedback on= your application=20 >materials.=20 > >Don't forget about opportunities that use smiliar skills like designing = store=20 >windows, expo displays, and the like. Ask local business owners who does= =20 >their window displays. Offer to do a few for the exposure (pun = intended!) and put=20 >an 8x10 of your business card in the lower corner of the window.=20 > >Call local high schools/colleges and see if they ever hire outside = designers. > >Call churches to see if they need someone to design for Easter/passion = plays. > >Get involved with the IATSE in your area as a permit worker. I know it's= not=20 >your goal, but you have usable skills and will make great contacts. In = this in >dustry it IS who you know. Herrick's tale is typical. Give me a buzz = when you=20 >make it to WI. :) > >HTH > >Kristi R-C ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:07:46 -0500 From: Steve Boone Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice, another view. At 3:00 AM -0800 1/19/05, Samuel L. Jones wrote: >I can safely rotate a genie with a man in >the basket in order to adjust (and make more safe) his position for >focusing a light. I can move a lift up to 6 feet safely to get to the >next light. In order to do these things, I require flat stage clear of >obstacles. I require 2 guys on the ground to move the genie, a third >if it is corded. I require that the lift be moved very slowly, which >is not a problem when rotating or moving short distances. I require >that the outriggers be touching the ground. After seeing a lift operated in _exactly_ the way you've described come one breath away from falling (I mean it started going over, lots of people shouting, people running, a last second save by a really strong firefighter/stagehand on the deck--and the whole time the guy up top was so focused on what he was doing he didn't realize that he was the one going over--'cause the batten was moving with him); and, after seeing a Tallescope being handled by four stout and strong folks, at the focus for the opening of Foxfire in Baltimore catch the electric several times over a four hour call, and almost take a fall off the edge of a rake (back in my grad school days), I have to say that even when you make a reasonable effort to be as safe as you can about misusing the equipment, bad little accidents still happen. It's just a matter of time till one gets somebody (again). The way it always happens is: you think you know that you ought to be safe because there's some logic behind your reasoning. And it can be really good logic too. But no, as the accident starts to happen (usually for the stupidest reason) you loose _all_ control sooo fast. I've personally taken the fast way down two times off ladders (luckily just scared and sore, not hurt), both of which were just stupid accidents resulting in short falls (10'). So from experience, I'd really suggest that nobody else "join the club!" So, stay safe! Steve Boone TD/LD + whatever else Bowling Green State University ------------------------------ Message-ID: <021b01c4fe80$3da74d60$0600000a [at] anneb> From: "Andrew Vance" References: Subject: Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:40:20 -0600 Kristi wrote: > If the mn.rr in your email address means you are in Minnesota, I = suggest you=20 > grab your portfolio and some resumes and come to the State Theatre = Auditions=20 > in Madison, WI next month An excellent idea. I went every year I was in college and a few while I = was in high school and received many job offers from the producers = there. And the producers who didn't hire me always remembered my name = when I would run into them at USITT or sent them a resume years later. = And while there was only one workshop geared towards = designers/technicians when I went, it was incredibly useful to me to = have my portfolio and my presentation of it critiqued by people I wasn't = familiar with. I learned some valuable things that I don't think I = would have from my professors.=20 > Call local high schools/colleges and see if they ever hire outside = designers. You wouldn't believe how effective this really is. I do work for a = couple of area high schools because they happened to know I was in town = and a designer. Its not always the greatest money, but its good = experience and its always nice [at least for me] giving the complete = theatre experience to students who might not have gotten it otherwise. -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer/Supervisor Omaha Theatre Company/Omaha Theatre Ballet ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: Chris Fretts Subject: RE: Ladders & Lifts Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:54:12 -0500 The Scene Shop at IRT stopped moving personnel lifts while extended by doing one important thing ... I, as the Technical Director, decided to stop moving personnel lifts, made it Shop policy and made that policy possible. I made that happen by planning and engineering us out of the situations, during the design and build phases, that had caused us in the past to have to move the lifts during the load-in. And in the year and a half since we implemented this policy, we haven't found the need to move a lift while extended. Many times, we have come upon situations where it would be "easier and maybe faster" but we have resisted. We have not come upon a single time where we had no other choice. All shows have opened on time, my overtime expense has not skyrocketed and I sleep better at night. We have so many givens(fly space, wing space, budget, materials availability, etc.) when we are designing and building a show, why can't personnel lift safety be one of those givens. I also try to extend this planning to include other department's needs but sadly, those department heads do not feel as strongly as I do. Just my thoughts, your mileage may vary. Chris Fretts Technical Director Indiana Repertory Theatre ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Kevin Hardy" Subject: RE: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:15:50 -0500 Organization: CBI Lighting In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Your so insightful o my. Kevin Hardy CBI Lighting 309 East 108th St, #5C New York, New York, 10029 (917) 287-4220 Cellular (212) 369-7510 Studio -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Herrick Goldman Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:34 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Thoughts on contacting Theaters Regarding Design Work For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Great! More competition! Damn.... Hey congratulations. The "I'll take a salary and design on the side" thing hardly ever works. Eventually you either get resentful that the salary gig abuses your time, or they actually let you out but then they need you and you have tech that day. It only gets ugly. I've tried a million different ways to do this and I have found that 90% of it is being in the right place at the right time. Seriously. Go to staged Readings and help out with the 2 or 3 lights they have. Get in on the ground floor of a show. Do Send resumes. The Regional Theater Directory is a great place to start. Of the hundreds and hundreds of resumes I have sent I've gotten hits on maybe 5%-7%. But that's not bad. Especially if you can build on the relationships you get out of those. On occasion those calls were because someone quit or got a better show or had to be let go at the last minute and they need someone to bail them out. If you are in a large city with Theater Festivals, do those as well. You want the young directors as they are coming up. The Established directors have Billington's and Posner's phone number so even if you do a small show, they may go over your head when the big ones come around. Many on this list know me as the guy who frequents bars and is a social butterfly. Go out in your theater district and hang out. You'd be surprised who you find. I was watching football last week in a bar and a woman sitting next to me turned out to be a choreographer who had danced with Nureyev. She's creating a new ballet and now has my business card. Hope that helps. Do me a favor and advertise yourself as a set designer will ya? Best, _Herrick On 1/19/05 16:12, "roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com" wrote: > I was hoping people on the list could share there wisdom regarding the > process of getting work as a designer. > > > Rob Johnson > Freelance Set and Lighting Designer > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:28:27 -0500 Great photo. At least he is wearing safety goggles, that has to count for something. -Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) >I believe this is the image: http://five.foou.net/~joe/photo34.jpg > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200501200035.j0K0ZQI60170 [at] pop.hevanet.com> From: jonares [at] hevanet.com Subject: Re: On-line Portfolios Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:35:26 GMT > Mine is on my web site (http://www.jeffsalzberg.com -- comments and/or > criticism always welcomed), and I burn it to CD to send to interested > producers. > Mee too. My online portfolio has resulted in several good gigs over the years. www.hevanet.com/acreative (I sent this earlier, but for some reason it went to Jeffrey rather than the masses.) -- Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:19:39 -0800 From: Mat Goebel Reply-To: Mat Goebel Subject: Re: On-line Portfolios In-Reply-To: References: I really like both of your pages. Jon, what resolution is your page designed for? I'm running 1024x768, and I have to scroll from the first page. I don't mind, but it might be more aesthetically appealing for everything to fit. I do really like your navigation buttons. Jeff the video clips are nice but they're verrrrrrrrry small. It's almost hard to see them. If you have the space/bandwidth it might be cool to put some higher res / frame rate stuff. Nice newspaper article! Such high praise. I'll throw my website into the ring as well. http://www.matgoebel.com It's pretty plain, but my ISP's hosting is rather slow (looking to change hosts for more space, etc - any recommendations?) so I tried to keep it simple. On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:35:26 GMT, jonares [at] hevanet.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Mine is on my web site (http://www.jeffsalzberg.com -- comments and/or > > criticism always welcomed), and I burn it to CD to send to interested > > producers. > > > > Mee too. My online portfolio has resulted in several good gigs over the > years. www.hevanet.com/acreative > > (I sent this earlier, but for some reason it went to Jeffrey rather than > the masses.) > > -- Jon Ares > www.hevanet.com/acreative > www.wlhstheatre.org > > -- Mat Goebel Cell: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <7782856C-6A8B-11D9-BD90-000393BB489C [at] ucla.edu> From: Samuel Jones Subject: Re: ladders and Lifts general practice, another view. Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:32:02 -0800 On Jan 19, 2005, at 3:07 PM, Steve Boone wrote: > After seeing a lift operated in _exactly_ the way you've described > come one breath away from falling (I mean it started going over, lots > of people shouting, people running, a last second save by a really > strong firefighter/stagehand on the deck OK, but you haven't said why it started to go over. I could be wrong, but I don't think it was operated exactly the way I described. > ...and, after seeing a Tallescope being handled by four stout and > strong folks, at the focus for the opening of Foxfire in Baltimore > catch the electric several times over a four hour call, and almost > take a fall off the edge of a rake I believe I said I never move a lift on a rake of any kind. > The way it always happens is: you think you know that you ought to be > safe because there's some logic behind your reasoning. And it can be > really good logic too. But no, as the accident starts to happen > (usually for the stupidest reason) you loose _all_ control sooo fast. The greater the risk the greater the care. A hand cross cut saw and an electric miter can both saw off your hand, but the care during operation is not the same. If you treat a power miter like a hand saw you will lose a piece of anatomy. If you treat a lift like a furniture dolly bad bad things will happen. Sam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:34:14 -0500 Subject: Re: On-line Portfolios From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hey Matt, You and I have a mutual friend who hosts websites. His name is Noah Price. Maybe you've heard of him? Noah Price His hosting is really great! -H On 1/19/05 21:19, "Mat Goebel" wrote: > > It's pretty plain, but my ISP's hosting is rather slow (looking to > change hosts for more space, etc - any recommendations?) so I tried to > keep it simple. \ -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <468d228205011919005ffc96cf [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:00:52 -0500 From: Michael Beyer Reply-To: Michael Beyer Subject: Re: On-line Portfolios In-Reply-To: References: I have been using an online portfolio and cd for about 5 years now. I also have a "real" portfolio, but my primary one is www.mjblightdesign.com and I feel it to be far easier to use. It is a lot easier to hand someone a business card, and say that web page there is my portfolio if you are interested than it is for them to call me down the line and ask me to bring them my work. I use a friend for hosting, and he currently has provided me with a site builder program that is accessible from anywhere in the world (it is an online site builder with prebuilt templates). HOWEVER, I hate it. I am going to be working with A few web building programs in the next couple of months, dreamweaver, and a few others. At that point I will only have to pay for hosting and not this stupid site builder thing. Anyhow... I strongly suggest it. Give my site a looksee, let me know what you think! http://www.mjblightdesign.com Michael On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:34:14 -0500, Herrick Goldman wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hey Matt, > > You and I have a mutual friend who hosts websites. His name is Noah Price. > Maybe you've heard of him? > > Noah Price > > His hosting is really great! > > -H > > > On 1/19/05 21:19, "Mat Goebel" wrote: > > > > > It's pretty plain, but my ISP's hosting is rather slow (looking to > > change hosts for more space, etc - any recommendations?) so I tried to > > keep it simple. > \ > -- > Herrick Goldman > Lighting Designer, NYC > www.HGLightingDesign.com > > "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in > light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS > > -- www.mjblightdesign.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:59:47 -0800 From: Mat Goebel Reply-To: Mat Goebel Cc: mjblight [at] gmail.com (Michael Beyer) Subject: Re: On-line Portfolios In-Reply-To: References: That's very nice looking. I would never have guessed it to be a template. Very zippy hosting. All around, bravo. On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:00:52 -0500, Michael Beyer wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I have been using an online portfolio and cd for about 5 years now. I > also have a "real" portfolio, but my primary one is > www.mjblightdesign.com and I feel it to be far easier to use. It is a > lot easier to hand someone a business card, and say that web page > there is my portfolio if you are interested than it is for them to > call me down the line and ask me to bring them my work. I use a > friend for hosting, and he currently has provided me with a site > builder program that is accessible from anywhere in the world (it is > an online site builder with prebuilt templates). HOWEVER, I hate it. > I am going to be working with A few web building programs in the next > couple of months, dreamweaver, and a few others. At that point I will > only have to pay for hosting and not this stupid site builder thing. > > Anyhow... I strongly suggest it. Give my site a looksee, let me know > what you think! > http://www.mjblightdesign.com > > Michael -- Mat Goebel Cell: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ Subject: Seating Help! Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:24:13 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Medley, Robert" Alright folks I just got the approval to replace the seating (413 total) = in my space that was built in 1974 (bad harvest gold color). I need any = and all saga advice about seating, vendors, and process. My timeline is = very short and we need everything in place for the contractor in = mid-June. Thanks in advance! =20 Robert Medley Director of Theater The Catlin Gabel School 8825 SW Barnes Rd. Portland, OR 97225 503 297-1894 ext 362 medleyr [at] catlin.edu =20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41EF59EE.53D830A5 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:12:47 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: Seating Help! References: "Medley, Robert" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Alright folks I just got the approval to replace the seating (413 total) in my space that was built in 1974 (bad harvest gold color). I need any and all saga advice about seating, vendors, and process. My timeline is very short and we need everything in place for the contractor in mid-June. Thanks in advance! Seats that are wide enough for adults. When I go to theater or movies, I am inevitably cramped by too narrow seats. One of the reasons I rarely go to a movie or show I have to pay for anymore. The seats are just too damn uncomfortable. Have your seating vendor bring in a sample set, bolt them to a piece of plywood in front of a big screen TV and watch a longish movie. How does your butt and body feel at the end of the movie? --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002301c4fedc$5c8ed020$0100a8c0 [at] tricia> From: "Joker7" References: Subject: Re: Seating Help! Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:39:47 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Farmer" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:12 AM Subject: Re: Seating Help! Seats that are wide enough for adults. When I go to theater or movies, I am inevitably cramped by too narrow seats. One of the reasons I rarely go to a movie or show I have to pay for anymore. The seats are just too damn uncomfortable. Have your seating vendor bring in a sample set, bolt them to a piece of plywood in front of a big screen TV and watch a longish movie. How does your butt and body feel at the end of the movie? --Dale I go with that would pay more as a punter if the seats are of a good size with leg room. Chris ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #265 *****************************