Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 16380767; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 03:00:20 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #275 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 03:00:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #275 1. Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) by "Nigel Worsley" 2. Re: by gregg hillmar 3. Re: Lights And Cold Weather - OT by "will kent" 4. Re: by "C. Andrew Dunning" 5. Re: by "rufus" 6. Guardian article on Cirque by "Jonathan S. Deull" 7. Re: Lights And Cold Weather by "Stuart Baulch" 8. Audrey 2 by "Cliff Thompson" 9. Re: Audrey 2 by Steve Larson 10. Re: tower lifts by "Stuart Baulch" 11. Re: shingles by mconn [at] cumberlandcollege.edu 12. Re: Audrey 2 by IAEG [at] aol.com 13. Re: shingles by IAEG [at] aol.com 14. Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? by kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu 15. Re: Tower Lifts by "John Penisten" 16. Re: Audrey 2 by "Delbert Hall" 17. Re: Re: by John McKernon 18. Re: Falling sheaves of paper by Loren Schreiber 19. Re: by "rufus" 20. Re: subject matter by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" 21. Re: Falling sheaves of paper by beth heermann 22. Glowing Paint by Matthew Kopans 23. Re: Lights And Cold Weather - OT by Jeff Grams 24. Re: Glowing paint by roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com 25. Re: Dance Floor Roll Diameter by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 26. Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 27. Re: Glowing Paint by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 28. Re: Glowing Paint by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 29. Questions by Danielle Maul 30. Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) by "Nigel Worsley" 31. Re: Questions by John McKernon 32. Re: Questions by "Scott C. Parker" 33. Re: Questions by Fred Fisher 34. justified mail by Judy 35. Re: Dance Floor Roll Diameter by Michael Feinberg 36. Re: Questions by "Kevin Hardy" 37. Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? by Jerry Durand 38. Re: Glowing Paint by MissWisc [at] aol.com 39. Re: subject matter by "Ronnie Thevenot" 40. Wiring 20 amp twist by "David Fox" 41. Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 42. phase converters why? by Greg Persinger 43. Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? by Jerry Durand 44. Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? by Charlie Richmond 45. Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? by Jerry Durand 46. Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? by Charlie Richmond 47. Re: phase converters why? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 48. Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) by Andy Ciddor 49. Re: phase converters why? by Greg Persinger 50. Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 51. Re: phase converters why? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 52. Re: tower lifts by "Daniel J. Kelly" 53. Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles [Long & Late post] by DanSLDME [at] aol.com 54. Re: phase converters why? by Greg Persinger 55. borderline OT: Road Warriors and Laptop rubber feet by Mat Goebel 56. Re: phase converters why? by Mark O'Brien 57. Re: phase converters why? by "Chris Warner" 58. Re: phase converters why? by Mark O'Brien 59. Clearcom in the SF Bay Area by Mat Goebel 60. Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles [Long & Late post] by John McKernon 61. Re: borderline OT: Road Warriors and Laptop rubber feet by Jerry Durand 62. Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles [Long & Late post] by David Wetmore 63. Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles [Long & Late post] by Charlie Richmond 64. Test, one two... by CB *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <187901c50469$c3d1a220$0c00a8c0 [at] Nigellaptop> From: "Nigel Worsley" References: Subject: Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:14:33 -0000 FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > A big enough site will have its own sub-station, with a delta-to-star set of > transformers to bring it to normal three-phase star, with the centre point > earthed. In the UK, this gives you 230V phase-to-neutral, and 440V > phase-to-phase. Phase to phase will be about 398V, usually rounded to 400V - mains voltage being distinctly nominal! Nigel Worsley ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <40E1C8A8-705F-11D9-B510-000A95D99210 [at] hillmardesign.com> From: gregg hillmar Subject: Re: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:30:39 -0500 On Jan 26, 2005, at 7:35 PM, Ronnie Thevenot wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello, > =A0 > I am considering purchasing an AutoCAD program for some scene design=20= > work > and possibly some light design work.=A0 Vector works has been = suggested=20 > to me > because of its inexpensive student price. =A0I was wondering if anyone=20= > on the > list had any experience with this program. > =A0 > Thank you, > =A0 > Ronnie Thevenot > rkt [at] ronniethevenot.com > There are 100's of people on this list who use Vectorworks and like it=20= quite a bit. There are probably an equal number who have not used it. HTH :-) g. _____________________ gregg hillmar scenic & lighting design portfolio & life as we know it: http://www.hillmardesign.com "Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt.=20= Dance like no one's watching." Satchel Paige ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "will kent" Subject: Re: Lights And Cold Weather - OT Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:57:56 +0000 Yea, its farenheit. Today our high is 9 degrees with a wind chill of -12. Sad thing is Im use to it. Will Kent Owner/Operator/LD Kent Production Services www.kentlighting.cjb.net ----Original Message Follows---- From: Dorian Kelly Reply-To: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Subject: Re: Lights And Cold Weather Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:46:24 +0000 11 degrees - is that farenheit? thats cold! Dorian Kelly ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "C. Andrew Dunning" Subject: RE: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:17:42 -0600 Organization: Landru Design In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ronnie - I've been using it w. fairly decent success. Even at its = "non-educational" price-point, I think that it is a great value. Depending on your = comfort level w. computers, I think you'll find it easy to learn. C. Andrew Dunning Landru Design - Nashville, TN - cad [at] landrudesign.com www.landrudesign.com >Hello, >=A0 >I am considering purchasing an AutoCAD program for some scene=20 >design work and possibly some light design work.=A0 Vector works=20 >has been suggested to me because of its inexpensive student=20 >price. =A0I was wondering if anyone on the list had any=20 >experience with this program. >=A0 >Thank you, >=A0 >Ronnie Thevenot >rkt [at] ronniethevenot.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "rufus" Cc: cad [at] landrudesign.com Subject: RE: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:26:52 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Ronnie, Take a look at http://www.ldassistant.com before you buy any CAD program. LD Assistant Ac 04 has more features that Vectorworks including rendering. Rendering tools include, Atmospheric Lighting & Lens Effects, Volume Light (smoke in the beam) and Lens Effects (Glow, Ring, Noise, Secondary, Star and Streak). LD Assistant Ac 04 has AutoCAD 2004 inside including 8 Universes of DMX control. Please let me know if I can be of any help. Best regards, Rufus Warren III Voice 708-499-0107 Fax Line 708-499-0046 E-Mail rufus [at] design-drafting.com Web Site www.design-drafting.com autodesk authorized developer & partner HP authorized developer -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of C. Andrew Dunning Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:18 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Ronnie - I've been using it w. fairly decent success. Even at its "non-educational" price-point, I think that it is a great value. Depending on your comfort level w. computers, I think you'll find it easy to learn. C. Andrew Dunning Landru Design - Nashville, TN - cad [at] landrudesign.com www.landrudesign.com >Hello, > >I am considering purchasing an AutoCAD program for some scene >design work and possibly some light design work. Vector works >has been suggested to me because of its inexpensive student >price. I was wondering if anyone on the list had any >experience with this program. > >Thank you, > >Ronnie Thevenot >rkt [at] ronniethevenot.com ------------------------------ From: "Jonathan S. Deull" Subject: Guardian article on Cirque Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:47:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: An interesting article on the new Las Vegas Cirque show: http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,1399563,00.html Jonathan Deull Clark Transfer, Inc. Edmund Burke School ------------------------------ From: "Stuart Baulch" Subject: Re: Lights And Cold Weather Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:50:31 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: "....11 degrees - is that Fahrenheit? thats cold!...." That's positively balmy We're setting up a show at Toronto City Hall right now and at 12noon it was -36 degrees Celsius. That's about -18F. And that's at ground level at high noon. We have guys working at 11pm on the roof. Aside from that, Dorian's advice is all good. Just remember to keep drinking water yourself. Under all of those layers you will be sweating. Keep your water bottle in an inside pocket, so that you don't end up with a popsicle. Good luck Stuart B ------------------------------ From: "Cliff Thompson" Subject: Audrey 2 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:53:04 -0600 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <200501270753998.SM00436 [at] D7YZPP41> You probably get this question a lot! I want to rent Audrey 2 in all its manifestations. I've already received a quote from CBC Creative, and I know that MTI rents plants to those who license the play. Anyone familiar with other rental options? Thanks very much. Dr. R. Cliff Thompson Director of Theatre Freed-Hardeman University Theatre Get ARTS-Wired! Join the Fine Arts Mailing List. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:59:09 -0500 Subject: Re: Audrey 2 From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: There is a website dealing entirely with Audrey 2 rentals. Google it or check the archives. Steve on 1/27/05 8:53 AM, Cliff Thompson at cthompson [at] fhu.edu wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > You probably get this question a lot! > > I want to rent Audrey 2 in all its manifestations. I've already received a > quote from CBC Creative, and I know that MTI rents plants to those who > license the play. > > Anyone familiar with other rental options? Thanks very much. > > Dr. R. Cliff Thompson > Director of Theatre > Freed-Hardeman University Theatre > > Get ARTS-Wired! Join the Fine Arts Mailing List. > > > ------------------------------ From: "Stuart Baulch" Subject: RE: tower lifts Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:01:03 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: ===== Bill Schaffell asked Anyone with experience with Penn Fabrication tower lifts model # TE-06 or suggestions for any similar products to consider? ===== Several production companies in Toronto have these. They're cheap, easy to set-up and if treated reasonably well, very reliable. A typical application is a set of "antlers" in the top post opening, and then lines of truss lifted onto a series of two or more lifts. Unfortunately, these are frequently overloaded in this configuration, as your lift cap. is only 220lbs per tower. I don't see them on the website, but there are wheeled frame dollies available for these lifts. The lifts lay horizontally and you can stack the dollies 3 or 4 high in a truck. Cheers, Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1106834201.41f8f31997279 [at] mail.cumberlandcollege.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:56:41 -0500 From: mconn [at] cumberlandcollege.edu Cc: tomgrab [at] utpa.edu Subject: Re: shingles I have done a couple of shows that had shingles. What I have done is used all my leftover luan facings, cut-off odd pieces that I am not willing to pitch. Rip them to the size I want and waa-la instant shingles. Cleans out all that little stuuf that can't be justified to pitch "just yet" and does not leave me with what to do with the shingles when I am done. HTH Moe Maurice "Moe" Conn Designer/Technical Director Kohn Theatre 606-539-4520 mconn [at] cumberlandcollege.edu Say Tuned for the return of The Long Reach Long Riders and their continued effort to Raise money for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights Aids. Check Out: www.sapsis-rigging.com/LBLR.html Long Reach Long Riders were formerly the Long Beach Long Riders. ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1d8.359f2ea4.2f2a4fb9 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:07:53 EST Subject: Re: Audrey 2 isn't there someone on the list from Hippodrome Theatre in Gainesville? they used to have a great rental set of puppets, , very best, Keith Arsenault President IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:09:46 EST Subject: Re: shingles In a message dated 1/27/05 9:03:05 AM, mconn [at] cumberlandcollege.edu writes: >I have done a couple of shows that had shingles. What I have done is used >all > >my leftover luan facings, cut-off odd pieces that I am not willing to pitch. > > >Rip them to the size I want and waa-la instant shingles. Cleans out all >that > >little stuuf that can't be justified to pitch "just yet" and does not >leave > >me with what to do with the shingles when I am done. > > i used a ROTOZIP and lots of left over luan to make lots of rustic , cartoonish shingles for a production of LITTLE ABNER great use for a ROTOZIP., , very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1106834107.41f8f2bba136b [at] webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:55:07 -0500 From: kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu Subject: Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? References: In-Reply-To: My mail was down and I missed yesterdays digest so i did not see the beginning of this but....if what you are wanting to do is to convert a single phase to 3 phase so that you can use a dimmer that is rigged for three phase..dont do this. For one thing power is power and a single hot leg of 20amps can at best give you 3 hot legs of 6 amps or so...with the additional factor that they will be out of phase with each other. The key as far as the dimmers are concerned is that the box is set up for 3 hot legs...that share a neutral. The phase characteristics of those legs is meaningless to the dimmers. It would be much easier to change the distribution at the bus bar inside the box..or alternatively split the hot leg you have conventionally (in parallel) and feed the dimmer this way. There is no need to 'create' three phase for dimmers, now if you were trying to run a 3 phase chain motor it is a different situation entirely since the motor in this case is designed to use 3 hot legs 120 degrees out of phase. Disclaimer: I am fairly old school and it is possible that there are newer systems that are dependent on 3 phase power to do various tricky 'value added' things that I am not aware of...I don't think so however :-) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41F8F78C.6010505 [at] fullcompass.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:15:40 -0600 From: "John Penisten" Subject: Re: Tower Lifts References: In-Reply-To: Bill, I have Penn lifts in my rental inventory, and have been very happy with them. From a sales standpoint, Penn has been great with support. Feel free to contact me off list if you would like any more information. John -- John Penisten Full Compass Systems Rental, Production, Design http://www.fullcompass.com Phone: 800-356-5844 Ext. 1355 Fax: 608-831-6330 ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Audrey 2 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:16:50 -0500 Bob Robbins of the Hip was on the list. -Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) >From: IAEG [at] aol.com >Reply-To: "Stagecraft" >To: "Stagecraft" >Subject: Re: Audrey 2 >Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:07:53 EST > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >isn't there someone on the list from Hippodrome Theatre in Gainesville? >they >used to have a great rental set of puppets, , > >very best, > >Keith Arsenault >President >IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group >Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:21:48 -0500 Subject: Re: From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Do keep in mind that Vectorworks is available for both Windows and Mac, while AutoCAD is Windows-only - so if you work on more than one kind of computer (or have colleagues who do), this could make a difference. Also, if you plan to use Lightwright, there's a lot of support from both Nemetschek and VW users for transferring data back and forth between VW and LW, but unfortunately there's very little for AutoCAD. - John McKernon ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050127063418.02a6b340 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:36:52 -0800 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re:Falling sheaves of paper In-Reply-To: References: Ben Thoron, TD at the Old Globe Theatre in San Diego, has submitted just such a device for the upcoming Tech Expo. You might give him a call (619-235-2260). It's a pretty simple unit that drops paper doilies. Loren Schreiber, Chair Tech Expo Committee United States Institute for Theatre Technology ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "rufus" Subject: RE: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:28:49 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Take a close look at all the CAD programs being offered and pick the one that works best for you. If you are going to be at USITT this year be sure to stop by the session "The Best of Both Lighting CADs: Vector works Spotlight and LD Assistant/AutoCAD". You will be able to see both programs and make a better informed decision. If I'm not mistaken Gregg Hillmar will be driving the Vector works while Barry Cleveland from CSUN will be driving LD Assistant/AutoCAD. LD Assistant Ac or AutoCAD w/LD Assistant PL also provides support of Lightwright with import and export. Moreover LD Assistant it brings to the table more features at a lower price that any other CAD program. Do keep mind that the student version of LD Assistant is not time dependent like others. Best regards, Rufus Warren III Voice 708-499-0107 Fax Line 708-499-0046 E-Mail rufus [at] design-drafting.com Web Site www.design-drafting.com autodesk authorized developer & partner HP authorized developer -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of John McKernon Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:22 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Do keep in mind that Vectorworks is available for both Windows and Mac, while AutoCAD is Windows-only - so if you work on more than one kind of computer (or have colleagues who do), this could make a difference. Also, if you plan to use Lightwright, there's a lot of support from both Nemetschek and VW users for transferring data back and forth between VW and LW, but unfortunately there's very little for AutoCAD. - John McKernon ------------------------------ Message-ID: <886EF25AF8BEF64EB89A820EF84064FF0BCDFED2 [at] UCMAIL4> From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" Subject: RE: subject matter Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:31:25 -0500 Folks, Would you please make sure that there is a subject in the subject line. It looks so much like spam with out it and it is also nice to see what the topic is. Thanks Steve Waxler Technical Director College Conservatory of Music University of Cincinnati ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050127153445.73087.qmail [at] web53101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:34:45 -0800 (PST) From: beth heermann Subject: Re: Falling sheaves of paper In-Reply-To: Hi all I put together a relatively simple paper thrower for Violet Hour at Steppenwolf a couple years ago. It was basically a little elevator that brought the paper up to a set of rollers. The rollers were sprocketed to a DC motor. We could set how much paper was fed off by changing the speed of the motor. After a little finessing, we could get it to throw single sheets with relative consistency or throw a ream of paper in about 20 sec. I can send you a rough drawing off list if you are interested. A couple of things to look at if you are going to build something... We found that it was difficult to control the pressure of the paper against the feed wheels because you are constantly taking weight off the elevator. Instead of trying to vary the counterweight, we put hard wheels next to the feed wheels to limit the amount of contact the paper would have with the feed wheels. (In our case the hard wheels were poplar, the feed wheels were 2" model aircraft wheels I bought at a local hobby shop). We waxed the hard wheels to that they would be less likely to feed paper. You are also going to want to put in a baffle where the paper feeds out. In your copier, there is a little line of brushes. We went low tech and stapled a piece of manila folder where the paper fed out. A sheet of paper coming out of the machine would hit the baffle first, the baffle would bend a little lifting up the sheet of paper and separating it from the ones under it before it was launched into the room. You have to play with the position of the baffle a little to get it to work well. Too high and the paper wont feed, too low and the paper flies out in chunks. The weight of the paper makes a difference. We settled on cheap copier bond because we needed some astronomical amount of paper for the show (multiple palettes of paper). Our light weight paper did not fly very far. We helped it out with a large cinema fan on a c-stand. Heavier papers throw farther, but are more expensive and don't have that wafting look when they fall. When the motor ran at top speed (about a ream every 20 sec) the paper would shoot 4-5 feet and drift out maybe 15-20 feet when we tested it in the shop. The paper fed out from about 5' off the floor. Anyway, if you need/want any other information, give me a call. We had help from South Coast Rep's props department when we were designing ours and knowing which pitfalls they had already encountered made a huge difference to us. Have fun Beth Verda Beth (Heermann) Martell Assistant Technical Director The Krannert Center for the Performing Arts Assistant Professor of Theatre The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 217-333-3718 --- jonares [at] hevanet.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Running across an ad for Jauchem & Meeh (showing a > bunch of papers > blowing around) reminded me I am designing a show > that needs to have > reams of paper falling from the heavens ("Dear > Charlotte" - about > Charlotte Bronte). I have planned on just > outsourcing this 'challenge' > to those who are building my set (how's that for > passing the buck?) but > I would love to hear if anyone's done such a thing. > The papers should > come fluttering down, not a 'dump' of papers > ("THUD!"). Should be like > snow, but obviously full sheets of paper are larger > than what one would > do with a snow cradle or tube. I also want to avoid > something that > sounds like a solenoid going off, dumping the paper. > > Any thoughts? > > -- Jon > Ares > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050127153720.26996.qmail [at] web42402.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:37:20 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Kopans Subject: Glowing Paint In-Reply-To: Are you talking about phosphorescent paint and blacklight? That seems to be the easiest solution. Also, surprisingly, Woollite phosphereses (please excuse the spelling) under blacklight as well. Matt Kopans Lighting Designer __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:03:39 -0500 From: Jeff Grams Subject: Re: Lights And Cold Weather - OT In-reply-to: Message-id: References: Sorry, no normal human ever gets used to a wind chill of -12. > >Yea, its farenheit. Today our high is 9 degrees with a wind chill of >-12. Sad thing is Im use to it. > >Will Kent ------------------------------ From: roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com Subject: Re: Glowing paint Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:26:11 -0600 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Sounds like Wildfire's invisible paint. It glows under black light. I believe that Rosco makes a invisible paint as well. You will need to have the have the scenery under black light to paint the effect or, it will be difficult to see what you are painting. Rob Johnson =46reelance Designer 629 Kenwood Parkway Minneapolis, MN 55403 612-702-4274 roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:49:09 -0500, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >I have just finished seeing the Playhouse in the Park's new=20 >play "Bad Dates". On the skyline of the town is this pseudo- >flourescent-like paint that only glows when a certain type=20 >of light is shown on it. I was wondering if anyone knew what=20 >type of paint and light combination could cause this. It=20 >glowed a faint shade of pink if that helps anyone. > >Thanks, >Stephanie Boyd >CCM Student >TD&P Major-specialization Stage Management ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:15:50 EST Subject: Re: Dance Floor Roll Diameter In a message dated 27/01/05 06:28:12 GMT Standard Time, michaelf [at] joyce.eng.yale.edu writes: > Hmm, actually you can use the above formula. {(outside diam)=(inside > diam)+(2*thickness of layer)*(number of wraps)} which you can > substitute in and get a quadratic equation in terms of number of > wraps: {Pi*t*N^2 + Pi*d*N - L = 0} where t is the thickness of a > layer (.06"), N is number of wraps, d is the diameter of the core > (8") and L is the length (6888") You can also try a sideways approach. Work out the volume of the floor, add in the volume of the centre cylinder, and work back through the volume of a cylinder formula to get the outside diameter. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:18:47 EST Subject: Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) In a message dated 27/01/05 12:17:00 GMT Standard Time, nigle [at] dsl.pipex.com writes: > > A big enough site will have its own sub-station, with a delta-to-star set > of > > transformers to bring it to normal three-phase star, with the centre point > > earthed. In the UK, this gives you 230V phase-to-neutral, and 440V > > phase-to-phase. > > Phase to phase will be about 398V, usually rounded to 400V - mains voltage > being distinctly nominal! OK. I was remembering the numbers from the days of 240V (nominal) mains. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1f0.343b2b18.2f2a7db1 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:24:01 EST Subject: Re: Glowing Paint In a message dated 27/01/05 15:38:09 GMT Standard Time, mjkopa [at] yahoo.com writes: > Are you talking about phosphorescent paint and blacklight? That seems > to be the easiest solution. Also, surprisingly, Woollite phosphereses > (please excuse the spelling) under blacklight as well. So do most other detergents which incorporate 'fabric brighteners'. This is sometimes an embarassment to dancers in very thin costumes, as their underwear glows! Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:30:36 GMT Subject: Re: Glowing Paint Message-Id: <20050127.093120.24079.136659 [at] webmail04.lax.untd.com> Occasionally, this is intentional! Particularly in the 'Club Scene'. /s/ Richard > Also, surprisingly, Woollite phosphereses under blacklight as well. So do most other detergents which incorporate 'fabric brighteners'. This is sometimes an embarrassment to dancers in very thin costumes, as their underwear glows! Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: From: Danielle Maul Subject: Questions Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:34:08 -0500 Hey All- Thank you all for your kind suggestions, though I'd hit most of them already. But as Jon said: > Anyone know of a 'secret' list of jobs for > the more experienced? :) There appears to be no single, reasonable job site for the well-experienced. I guess t's all about networking, still. And, of course, if you've left for any period of time or done something else, folks think you fell off the face of the earth. Ah, well. I'm electrics oriented (TV, theater and Industrials) and live in NYC if anyone needs someone. (Nudge, nudge, wink, wink) :>) And several folks on the list can give me good references. Danielle Maul ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1cdc01c50497$1e538510$0c00a8c0 [at] Nigellaptop> From: "Nigel Worsley" References: Subject: Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:39:13 -0000 FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 27/01/05 12:17:00 GMT Standard Time, nigle [at] dsl.pipex.com > writes: > >>> A big enough site will have its own sub-station, with a delta-to-star set >> of >> > transformers to bring it to normal three-phase star, with the centre > point >> > earthed. In the UK, this gives you 230V phase-to-neutral, and 440V >> > phase-to-phase. >> >> Phase to phase will be about 398V, usually rounded to 400V - mains voltage >> being distinctly nominal! > > OK. I was remembering the numbers from the days of 240V (nominal) mains. That would have been 415V then. As far as I am aware, 440V is purely an American thing. Nigel Worsley ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:45:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Questions From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > I guess t's all about networking, still. Now and forever. As Tom Skelton said to me once, "I never want to work with somebody I haven't worked with before". The point being, he knew he could depend on people he knew and trusted. Which is why networking is so crucial - I generally don't want to hire anyone unless someone I know recommends them, and I'd say that's pretty much true throughout the business. Good luck! - John McKernon ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050127125505.02c40ec0 [at] mail.hstech.org> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:57:20 -0500 From: "Scott C. Parker" Subject: Re: Questions In-Reply-To: References:

At 12:45 PM 1/27/2005, you wrote: > > I guess t's all about networking, still. > >Now and forever. ----snip--- >Which is why networking is so crucial ----snip--- > >Good luck! > >- John McKernon Speaking of networking! If you're in the NY area......... Come one, come all. I am happy to announce that the New York Area Section of USITT will be having a networking party on February 7 at 5:30 p.m. The kind folks of the Entertainment Technology Dept. at the New York City College of Technology are graciously allowing us to use their theater for our next get-together. Directions to their space at 186 Jay Street in Brooklyn can be found in the PDF at: http://www.usittny.org/Directions186JayStreet.pdf We hope you'll bring your friends and colleagues to this party. Be they members or nonmembers, all are welcome. We will be, of course, encouraging nonmembers to join. Bring your portfolio, either on paper or CD Rom, business cards, favorite model, brochures and such. Tables will be available to setup your portfolios/models for all to see. A video projector and Windows computer will be setup to view CDRom presentations. The computer lab has Vectorworks for those of you that wish to show some drafting work. Students are especially encouraged to bring portfolio work in progress. I have already spoken with a few of my colleagues and we will be more than happy to give constructive comments about your presentation. So that we may figure out refreshments and what kind of equipment we need to set up for your portfolios please RSVP to: rsvp [at] usittny.org and tell me what you might be bringing. We hope to see you there, Scott Scott C. Parker Vice Chair NY Area Section of The United States Institute of Theatre Technology www.usittny.org scott [at] usittny.org 718-757-6661 Professor/Technical Director Dept. of Performing Arts Office: 41 Park Row, 1205F Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University 1 Pace Plaza New York, NY 10038 212-346-1423 Fax: 212-346-1681 Scott C. Parker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:06:39 -0600 From: Fred Fisher Subject: Re: Questions In-reply-to: Message-id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050127120454.019cfbe0 [at] wiscmail.wisc.edu> Count me in as one of those people who will give Danielle a good recommendation. Fred Fisher At 12:34 PM 1/27/2005 -0500, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Hey All- > >Thank you all for your kind suggestions, though I'd hit most of them >already. But as Jon said: > >>Anyone know of a 'secret' list of jobs for >>the more experienced? :) > >There appears to be no single, reasonable job site for the >well-experienced. I guess t's all about networking, still. And, of course, >if you've left for any period of time or done something else, folks think >you fell off the face of the earth. Ah, well. > >I'm electrics oriented (TV, theater and Industrials) and live in NYC if >anyone needs someone. (Nudge, nudge, wink, wink) :>) And several folks on >the list can give me good references. > > >Danielle Maul > ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <41F9369E.3030000 [at] post.tau.ac.il> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:44:46 +0200 From: Judy Subject: justified mail > > >Still came through right justified. (snip). It >does make your emails stand out. > Sort of a virtual backlight :-) ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:29:55 -0500 From: Michael Feinberg Subject: Re: Dance Floor Roll Diameter Frank Wood wrote: >You can also try a sideways approach. Work out the volume of the floor, add >in the volume of the centre cylinder, and work back through the volume of a >cylinder formula to get the outside diameter. Wow. That's a really good idea. The formula is _far_ simpler, just being {L*t = Pi*R^2 - Pi*r^2}, which solves for R as {R = Sqrt[L*t/Pi + r^2]} with L=length of floor, t=thickness of floor, r=radius of core, R=outside radius of roll, and Pi=3.14 Easier to get the formula, easier to calculate, and with L=574'*12=6888", t=.06", and r=4", it gives the same r=12.15" (diameter=24.3") as the more complicate formulas. Thanks Frank. -- -Michael Feinberg, CTS ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Kevin Hardy" Subject: RE: Questions Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:38:40 -0500 Organization: CBI Lighting In-Reply-To: Message-Id: OK john, So lets have lunch and we can talk about all the people we both know. You name the place and I'll be there, I'll even buy. If Networking is where you find it, then consider this an open invitation to everyone. Cause I am looking for work... http://cbilighting.com/ Kevin Hardy CBI Lighting 309 East 108th St, #5C New York, New York, 10029 (917) 287-4220 Cellular (212) 369-7510 Studio -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of John McKernon Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 12:45 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Questions For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > I guess t's all about networking, still. Now and forever. As Tom Skelton said to me once, "I never want to work with somebody I haven't worked with before". The point being, he knew he could depend on people he knew and trusted. Which is why networking is so crucial - I generally don't want to hire anyone unless someone I know recommends them, and I'd say that's pretty much true throughout the business. Good luck! - John McKernon ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050127114404.02a005f8 [at] localhost> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:50:25 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? In-Reply-To: References:

At 05:55 AM 1/27/2005, you wrote: >Disclaimer: I am fairly old school and it is possible that there are newer >systems that are dependent on 3 phase power to do various tricky 'value >added' >things that I am not aware of...I don't think so however :-) The only thing I could think of at the moment is reducing the flicker on RGB LED luminaries. Playing with a commercial one here that has a 76Hz flicker, at low levels you can actually see the flicker. This comes from the eye's response to bright light pulses (motion pictures that are fine at 24f/s aren't fine if they are shown brighter). So, with 3 phase, 2/3 of the LEDs would normally be at least partially on helping reduce the flicker. In the DC dimmers we'll be showing at the Stage Expo, I'm using 4-phase dimming for this reason and also to reduce the pulse load on the power supply. Some switching supplies go berserk when hit with a pulse load, I fried several 100W Vicor (top of the line mil-spec) power supplies by having them power a lot of SDRAM (VERY high pulse currents and very low idle current). ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:34:26 EST Subject: Re: Glowing Paint In a message dated 1/27/5 11:24:51 AM, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com writes: << So do most other detergents which incorporate 'fabric brighteners'. >> Yep! Look for "bluing" which is added to many fabric softeners and detergents for whitness and you've found one good source. There is a powdered detergent used by many Mexican women in my area (can't think of the name of it... sold in a soft-sided pack, white background, dark blue wording panel) that is why their whites are so bright. Kristi ------------------------------ From: "Ronnie Thevenot" Subject: RE: subject matter Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:02:08 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c504c4$3d2ae690$6401a8c0 [at] ronnie> In-Reply-To: I apologize for starting a thread without a subject line, the subject got lost when I copied and pasted the message when I convert the message to -plain text. Ronnie Thevenot -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Waxler, Steve (waxlers) Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:31 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: subject matter For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Folks, Would you please make sure that there is a subject in the subject line. It looks so much like spam with out it and it is also nice to see what the topic is. Thanks Steve Waxler Technical Director College Conservatory of Music University of Cincinnati ------------------------------ Subject: Wiring 20 amp twist Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:12:19 -0600 Message-ID: <34CB2A959285064382C1BBFCC7141E40664C29 [at] MIDL-MAILV.etcconnect.com> From: "David Fox" Chris Warner wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > Another secret: There is a right end and a wrong end of the cable for the > > male and female connectors. > > > > Alf > Okay Alf, this one I gotta here! What I had been taught was that as the cable is sleeved it comes off rolls and has a slight twist to it. If you put the male and female twist connectors on the wrong sides of the cable, the natural twist to the cable will actually cause things them to unplug. Yeah... Yeah I know what you are thinking and thought it was the same sort of B.S. story as gel washing, pipe stretchers and wood magnets. Until I was in a facility where it started happening and I got the fun job of rebuilding several hundred pieces of cable. While I enjoyed the 2 weeks of work and got quite fast, I did indeed learned from the experience. Another thing to note is that not all 20 amp twist connectors will mate together. In the same facility we discovered that Hubble males did not fit into Pyle-National water resistant females. Not a fun thing to discover hanging off of a truss to be sure. Be Seeing You Davefox My opinions are mine!!!=20 All mine I tells ya!! ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <97.57ca3182.2f2ad198 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:22:00 EST Subject: Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? In a message dated 27/01/05 19:51:19 GMT Standard Time, jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes: > The only thing I could think of at the moment is reducing the flicker on > RGB LED luminaries. Playing with a commercial one here that has a 76Hz > flicker, at low levels you can actually see the flicker. This comes from > the eye's response to bright light pulses (motion pictures that are fine at > 24f/s aren't fine if they are shown brighter). Back when, it was done on UK film and TV studios. Fluorescent tubes look very handy for very broad area lighting, but flicker at twice mains frequency. TV and film cameras are very sensitive to this, so the fittings had three tubes, each on a different phase. I believe that some engineering machine shops did the same thing, to avoid strobe effects with rotating machinery. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:28:22 -0600 Subject: phase converters why? From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: In-Reply-To: A buddy of mine has a motor control unit with a phase converter that will allow him to run 3 phase chain motors from a standard 110V wall outlet. He mainly uses the setup in ballrooms. Greg Persinger Vivid Illumination Greg [at] Vividillumination.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050127153019.029ff248 [at] localhost> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:32:51 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? In-Reply-To: References: At 03:22 PM 1/27/2005, you wrote: >Back when, it was done on UK film and TV studios. Fluorescent tubes look very >handy for very broad area lighting, but flicker at twice mains frequency. TV >and film cameras are very sensitive to this, so the fittings had three tubes, >each on a different phase. I believe that some engineering machine shops did >the same thing, to avoid strobe effects with rotating machinery. We switched the ballasts in our fluorescent ceiling lights here and put in new solid state 50KHz ones. Not only is there no way to see any flicker, they don't hum, draw less power AND will light tubes that won't even come on with the old ballasts (so our junk tubes became new again). ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 23:37:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jerry Durand wrote: > new solid state 50KHz ones. Not only is there no way to see any flicker, Hell on the ears of the younguns, though... Charlie ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050127154248.029ffa80 [at] localhost> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:44:21 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? In-Reply-To: References:

At 03:37 PM 1/27/2005, you wrote: >>new solid state 50KHz ones. Not only is there no way to see any flicker, > >Hell on the ears of the younguns, though... You have younguns that can hear 50KHz? As a kid I could hear ultrasonic alarms and TV set horizontal oscillators, but they aren't that high. Or is it you're part vampire and the kids are bats? :) ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 23:47:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jerry Durand wrote: > Or is it you're part vampire and the kids are bats? :) I guess that must be it!! C ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <79.3dd44d79.2f2ad9c4 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:56:52 EST Subject: Re: phase converters why? In a message dated 27/01/05 23:30:06 GMT Standard Time, gregpersin [at] comcast.net writes: > A buddy of mine has a motor control unit with a phase converter that will > allow him to run 3 phase chain motors from a standard 110V wall outlet. He > mainly uses the setup in ballrooms. It can be done. But what sort of power levels are we talking about? The capacitors and inductors to make the lead and lag are quite expensive, reading prohibitively expensive at high powers. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20050128105021.039adf80 [at] pop3.kilowatt.com.au> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:58:39 +1100 From: Andy Ciddor Subject: Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) In-Reply-To: References: At 04:39 28.01.2005, Nigel Worsley wrote: >That would have been 415V then. > >As far as I am aware, 440V is purely an American thing. In the state of Western Australia the majority of 3 phase is supplied at 440v three phase, which produces a single phase voltage of 253v (250 nominal). Historically, Western Australia was 440v at 40Hz until the 1960s, then changed to 440v 50Hz. Later this was change to 415v 50Hz to conform with the rest of Australia by the mathematical sleight of hand of designating the voltage as 415v +/- 10% which allows the distribution of 440v to continue unabated, whilst everyone's gear, especially lamps have remarkably short lives. (Plays hell with your lamp budgets if aren't aware of this problem). Andy ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ~: Andy Ciddor aciddor [at] kilowatt.com.au :~ ~: The Kilowatt Company Telephone: +61 3 6229 1662 :~ ~: ABN 84 034 522 035 Facsimile: +61 3 6229 1662 :~ ~: Production | Technology | Communications Mobile: +61 (0)419 925 730 :~ ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:01:38 -0600 Subject: Re: phase converters why? From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Frank Wood Wrote: > It can be done. But what sort of power levels are we talking about? 15Amps The converter is solid state. Greg Persinger Vivid Illumination Greg [at] Vividillumination.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <74.4c1c4e31.2f2adaf3 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:01:55 EST Subject: Re: 3 ph 1 transformer (phase converters) why? In a message dated 27/01/05 23:38:36 GMT Standard Time, charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com writes: > > new solid state 50KHz ones. Not only is there no way to see any flicker, > > Hell on the ears of the younguns, though... Come on, Charlie. 50KHz is for bats, or dolphins. Even when I was younger, I couldn't handle 50KHz, and neither could you. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:15:44 EST Subject: Re: phase converters why? In a message dated 28/01/05 00:02:57 GMT Standard Time, gregpersin [at] comcast.net writes: > > It can be done. But what sort of power levels are we talking about? > > 15Amps > > The converter is solid state. Can be done. Whether or not it is a wise way to go down is your choice. I discussed this with a friend, who works with 6MW motor drive control systems. We agreed that the only sensible road to follow was to get in a proper three-phase system. At these powers, complicated systems can be justified. At our picayune level, no. A proper three-phase supply will do all that you ask. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000501c504e6$9a25e0d0$0400a8c0 [at] LIBERTY> From: "Daniel J. Kelly" References: Subject: Re: tower lifts Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:08:12 -0500 I've been using a pair of their TE-03 lifts for a few years now, and I love them. I tend to bang them up a bit during ins and outs, and they've held up very well. Everything I've ever had that was made by Penn was built like a tank, and these are no exception. Applied Electronics[http://www.appliednn.com] also makes excellent tower lifts. I went with Penn's TE-03 because it had the most height I could get from a lift that could be carried and tossed into the back of a pickup by one person. I also like it because the legs are positioned horizontally. The one thing I dislike about it, which is common with the TE-06, is that the legs do not lock into their storage pockets and tend to fall out when being transported horizontally, as in my case. Another manufacturer I'd recommend is Mobil-Tech, [http://www.mobil-tech.com/uk/indexelevateur.htm] but I don't know who their U.S. distributor is. I inherited a pair of their crank-ups awhile ago, and they've been great. Good luck! -- Daniel J. Kelly Philadelphia, PA, U.S.A. ----- Original Message ----- > Message-ID: <41F83664.609 [at] earthlink.net> > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:31:32 -0800 > From: Bill Schaffell > Subject: tower lifts > References: > > > I am considering buying some Penn Fabrication tower lifts model # TE-06 > to put in our rental stock. It is a 16' crank up tower. link to site. > http://www.pennfabrication.com/ > > Anyone with experience with these or suggestions for any similar > products to consider? > > b > -- > Bill Schaffell > WJS Studios > 909-986-2363 > http://www.wjsStudios.com/ ------------------------------ From: DanSLDME [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:24:44 EST Subject: Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles [Long & Late post] In a message dated 1/26/05 10:19:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, brian [at] tany.com writes: << Here's a question I'd like to see asked: Is there a venue which DOESN'T have a bottle cap taped over [CD GO] ? >> WOW ! A more elegant solution ! I just have a piece of cardboard taped on, boldly displaying the word " NO " ! ... Dan S. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:32:39 -0600 Subject: Re: phase converters why? From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Frank Wood wrote: > Can be done. Whether or not it is a wise way to go down is your choice. > > I discussed this with a friend, who works with 6MW motor drive control > systems. We agreed that the only sensible road to follow was to get in a > proper > three-phase system. Frank the reason he does this is that there is no three phase power to be had in the room (or from any reasonable distance from the room). There is enough single phase to run lighting and sound but he only owns three phase chain hoists. Thus the need for the phase converter. Since he is only hired in to do production and has no say in the infrastructure of this ballroom venue, the sensible road to follow was the most economical one for him, a phase converter. It's cheaper than new single phase motors used a couple times a year when he already owns 12 three phase motors that are paid for. Greg Persinger ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:38:38 -0800 From: Mat Goebel Reply-To: Mat Goebel Subject: borderline OT: Road Warriors and Laptop rubber feet Hey all, Does anyone else have the problem with their constant moving about that the stupid little rubber feet off the bottom of your computer or other portable device fall off CONSTANTLY? Whats the best adhesive to secure a rubber surface to a plastic surface? 2 part epoxy lasted about a month. Thanks so much. -- Mat Goebel Cell: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1106887674.f2bd52559336d [at] www.email.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:47:54 -0700 From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: phase converters why? References: In-Reply-To: Running smaller three phase motors, with a single phase inverter is sometimes done in industrial motor control situations. Because the frequency output is variable, and has to be "manufactured" somehow, anyway, there is no apparent reason why not to use single phase input if needed. That said, I have an inverter in my shop that outputs 0 to 360 hz. I run a router spindle withit, but I often wondered what the half horse 60 hz motor would do if I ran it at that speed. (Ouch!) -- Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile Quoting FrankWood95 [at] aol.com: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 28/01/05 00:02:57 GMT Standard Time, > gregpersin [at] comcast.net writes: > > > > It can be done. But what sort of power levels are we talking about? > > > > 15Amps > > > > The converter is solid state. > > Can be done. Whether or not it is a wise way to go down is your choice. > > I discussed this with a friend, who works with 6MW motor drive control > systems. We agreed that the only sensible road to follow was to get in a > proper > three-phase system. > > At these powers, complicated systems can be justified. At our picayune level, > no. A proper three-phase supply will do all that you ask. > > > > > Frank Wood > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <06b901c504f5$53392600$6501a8c0 [at] chris> From: "Chris Warner" References:

Subject: Re: phase converters why? Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:53:35 -0800 This technique is used all the time in industrial control applications. I have seen Variable Frequency drives in Elevator systems as well... Actually if you where to look at the output from a modern inverters built < 5 years ago, you will see that it is actually a much better sine wave than the utility can make you. I deal with inverters all the time (starving student has to make money somehow). The new stuff is WAY cool. My .02 Chris Warner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark O'Brien" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:47 PM Subject: Re: phase converters why? > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Running smaller three phase motors, with a single phase inverter is sometimes > done in industrial motor control situations. Because the frequency output is > variable, and has to be "manufactured" somehow, anyway, there is no apparent > reason why not to use single phase input if needed. That said, I have an > inverter in my shop that outputs 0 to 360 hz. I run a router spindle withit, > but I often wondered what the half horse 60 hz motor would do if I ran it at > that speed. (Ouch!) > > > -- > Mark O'Brien > Opera Technical Director > University of Arizona, School of Music > Tucson, AZ > 520/621-7025 > 520/591-1803 Mobile > > > Quoting FrankWood95 [at] aol.com: > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > In a message dated 28/01/05 00:02:57 GMT Standard Time, > > gregpersin [at] comcast.net writes: > > > > > > It can be done. But what sort of power levels are we talking about? > > > > > > 15Amps > > > > > > The converter is solid state. > > > > Can be done. Whether or not it is a wise way to go down is your choice. > > > > I discussed this with a friend, who works with 6MW motor drive control > > systems. We agreed that the only sensible road to follow was to get in a > > proper > > three-phase system. > > > > At these powers, complicated systems can be justified. At our picayune level, > > no. A proper three-phase supply will do all that you ask. > > > > > > > > > > Frank Wood > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 1/27/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 1/27/2005 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1106888113.cae0cae0e34b3 [at] www.email.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:55:13 -0700 From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: phase converters why? References:

In-Reply-To: The really cool inverters are the flux vector drives. Stump pulling torque at low rpm. Most of the times I have used them, we had to set the torque real low, to avoid destroying scenery if something hung up. -- Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile Quoting Chris Warner : > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > This technique is used all the time in industrial control applications. I > have seen Variable Frequency drives in Elevator systems as well... Actually > if you where to look at the output from a modern inverters built < 5 years > ago, you will see that it is actually a much better sine wave than the > utility can make you. I deal with inverters all the time (starving student > has to make money somehow). The new stuff is WAY cool. > > My .02 > Chris Warner ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:57:03 -0800 From: Mat Goebel Reply-To: Mat Goebel Cc: theatre-sound [at] listserv.aol.com (theatre sound) Subject: Clearcom in the SF Bay Area Hey again, I'll start by apologising for what may seem like excessive posting this month. I'm coming up on a show, but I promise to pay it forward by shunning my former pseudo-lurker status and answering every question I am able to in the future! On to my (third or fourth, now?) cry for help... I am in need of renting/borrowing three clearcom beltpacks and headset for 3 weeks (last week of february and the first two weeks of march) for a high school production I am consulting for in the San Francisco Bay area. If anyone can / is willing to help, please contact me off list. Thanks again. -- Mat Goebel Cell: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:02:09 -0500 Subject: Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles [Long & Late post] From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Here's a question I'd like to see asked: Is there a venue which > DOESN'T have a bottle cap taped over [CD GO] ? Actually, at the French Institute here in NY, they pulled the handles off the CD faders and taped over the whole shebang, including the CD GO button. The explanation was that it was too complicated to use them... - John McKernon ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050127211108.03b1a320 [at] localhost> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:11:48 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: borderline OT: Road Warriors and Laptop rubber feet In-Reply-To: References: At 08:38 PM 1/27/2005, you wrote: >Whats the best adhesive to secure a rubber surface to a plastic >surface? 2 part epoxy lasted about a month. I just peel new feet off a sheet I have here and replace the old ones. Actually, I sometimes stack them on a laptop bottom to get better cooling. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <7B42418A-70FC-11D9-970C-000D9347D938 [at] mac.com> From: David Wetmore Subject: Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles [Long & Late post] Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 23:16:08 -0800 Interesting, I guess I am one of the rare people that like to program on both sets of faders, but then again I like complicated cue sequences, macros, and effects and linking. David Wetmore Holland America Line On Jan 27, 2005, at 9:02 PM, John McKernon wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > >> Here's a question I'd like to see asked: Is there a venue which >> DOESN'T have a bottle cap taped over [CD GO] ? > > Actually, at the French Institute here in NY, they pulled the handles > off > the CD faders and taped over the whole shebang, including the CD GO > button. > The explanation was that it was too complicated to use them... > > - John McKernon > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:15:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Two-Scene Operation of Lighting Consoles [Long & Late post] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, David Wetmore wrote: > Interesting, I guess I am one of the rare people that like to program on both > sets of faders, but then again I like complicated cue sequences, macros, and > effects and linking. You may enjoy subscribing to the show-control mailing list, then ;-) See my sig below... Charlie + ----- Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design Ltd ----- + + ---------- http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com ---------- + + ------------ "Performance for the Long Run" ------------ + + To get info or join the Show Control Mailing List go to: + + ---- http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/sclist.html ---- + ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050127171520.00b7d008 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:15:20 From: CB Subject: Test, one two... Just checking the smtp server from the deck to see if I can hit you guys from here. No need to respond, if it goes and doesn't come back, I'm golden Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #275 *****************************