Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 18427852; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:00:48 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #295 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:00:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #295 1. Re: Small World by "Paul Guncheon" 2. virus? by kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il 3. Re: Venue information sheets by FREDERICK W FISHER 4. Sound effect by "Joker7" 5. Re: Venue description format [was Venue info sheets] by FREDERICK W FISHER 6. Re: New lighting board by FREDERICK W FISHER 7. Re: Painted Dance Floor by "Josh Wirtz" 8. Re: New lighting board by Bruce Purdy 9. Re: Sound effect by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 10. Re: Car theft (was Sound effect) by Jerry Durand 11. Re: venue information by b Ricie 12. Re: Sound effect by Jason Romney 13. Re: Venue description format by MPTecDir [at] aol.com 14. Re: venue information by David Marks 15. Re: Venue description format [was Venue info sheets] by Mitch Hefter 16. Re: Venue information sheets by Daryl Duell 17. New Member looking for a little chinese by Maura McGuinness 18. Re: New Member looking for a little chinese by Bill Sapsis 19. Re: Sound effect by Dale Farmer 20. Re: Venue description format [was Venue info sheets] by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 21. Re: Sound effect by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 22. Re: Car theft (was Sound effect) by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 23. Re: Car theft (was Sound effect) by Greg Persinger 24. Re: Venue description format by "Bruce Cooper" 25. Re: Venue description format by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 26. Re: Venue description format by "James, Brian" 27. Re: Sound effect by Charlie Richmond 28. Re: New Lighting System by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 29. Re: Lighting Heat Load by "Bill Conner" 30. Re: New Lighting System by "Jon Ares" 31. Re: Venue description format by FREDERICK W FISHER 32. Re: Venue description format by "James, Brian" 33. Re: Venue description format by Dale Farmer 34. Re: New Member looking for a little chinese by Samuel Jones 35. Re: Small World by "Andy Leviss" 36. Re: Car theft (was Sound effect) by "Andy Leviss" 37. Re: Car theft (was Sound effect) by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 38. bounce test by "Bill Brinsley" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <002101c511c1$93dd2070$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Small World Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:45:52 -1000 <> Ohmigod... I and most of my family were also stuck in the "It's a Small World" ride for 45 minutes. I now kill singing puppets without hesitancy or mercy. Sigh... Laters, Paul "We can't have this and eat it too," said Tom archaically. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1108299235.420f4de3c5104 [at] webmail.tau.ac.il> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:53:55 +0200 From: kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il Subject: virus? Check your virus software please, people - I've been getting virus-infect= ed messages from this list. Judy ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:37:01 -0600 From: FREDERICK W FISHER Subject: Re: Venue information sheets Message-id: <738b6373b0f7.73b0f7738b63 [at] wiscmail.wisc.edu> > "James, Brian" wrote: > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > -------------------------------- > ------------------- > > > > That would be the logical answer, however, our web guy is > refusing to post anything that is not a finished product. We have > some up now, but due to a sound and electrical renovation, I need > to update them. Another way to post info that changes often is to have your IT people just put in a link to your email and tell the website viewers to request a set from you. You can have Adobe pdf writer installed on your computer (or get a free download good for five uploads) and change your specs to .pdf files. They are easy to send, most people have the adobe reader or can get it free and you can keep track of who is requesting the files. Fred Fisher ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001101c511da$5842e950$0100a8c0 [at] tricia> From: "Joker7" Subject: Sound effect Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:43:12 -0000 Hi One and All........... I'm looking for a general sound effect of a day time street of about 3 minuets or a size I can loop,but longer the better.I know there some good stuff on the BBC sets but for a one of amateur show I can afford the cost.Is there a web site that may have this or one of you guy's/girl's that would not mind passing on to me. Thanks Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:46:54 -0600 From: FREDERICK W FISHER Subject: Re: Venue description format [was Venue info sheets] Message-id: <73a7ca736c7f.736c7f73a7ca [at] wiscmail.wisc.edu> Dale Farmer wrote: > > Heck, the ball is already rolling on this list. Here is a > strawman for > folks > to bash at: More or less stream of consciousness. > Also tell them what the house take on merchandise sales is. Which should be on the contract anyway, but it doesn't hurt to remind them, they'll still act offended when they come in. Fred Fisher ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 09:05:20 -0600 From: FREDERICK W FISHER Subject: Re: New lighting board Message-id: <3e2fbe3e348d.3e348d3e2fbe [at] wiscmail.wisc.edu> > At 06:25 PM 2/11/2005, Bruce Purdy wrote: > > > I have my heart set on an ETC Express 48-96. Besides being > what I > >believe to be an "Industry standard", occasionally even having > tours come > >with express cues on disk, it seems to be versatile enough for our > needs.> > > I'll finally be able to program cues in, but it can still > serve as a > >manual board for the many simpler one-off shows that make up the > bulk of our > >schedule. > We are in the midst of replacing our Expression 2x. I've ordered an ETC Emphasis system with the Insight face. My operators won't have a lot to learn for programming. Since most of our stuff is one off, no rehearsal shows, the 108 subs will be nice for programming looks. I encourage my new and experienced board ops to come in on dark days and work with the manual and the board and expand their skills. They also teach each other new "tricks" of the trade. Fred Fisher ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:46:15 -0600 From: "Josh Wirtz" Subject: Re: Painted Dance Floor I have worked on tours that had painted marley floors that lasted 10+ monthes on the road. Cleaning with Scrubbing Bubbles worked nicely to bring it back to life when it got dirty. As for painting it - I am not sure what the shop used, but you can contact them. VEE Production Services in Minneapolis, MN. www.vee.com Josh Wirtz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:25:31 -0500 Subject: Re: New lighting board From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Andrew Vance wrote: > Speaking as someone who sends tours to your venue, I'd definitely go = > with an Express to make my TDs happy. :) I thought I might hear from you Andy, and suspected you'd support my decision. :-) Thank you all for your various responses. So far nothing to dissuade me from the Express. One of our board members found a good deal on a rebuilt Expression or Obsession, but I don't think either of those would be as flexible for the multitude of one-off simple shows that we have. For those that asked, we do not have any moving lights. Although I wouldn't mind having a couple, they are so far down the priority list for our non - existent budget that I can't see ever actually getting any. Cyc lights come way before the fancy stuff, and so far those only look like a dream. The only way we were likely to ever get a new board was due to the untimely (?) demise of the old one. Some larger concerts do bring in Moving lights, but they also travel with their own boards. Just to get us through, I rented a Leprechaun board. Besides not being what I would want, there was a DMX problem. Occasionally various random lights would flash off and on. It was sort of like a slow motion reverse chase - flashing off instead of on. I had this same problem once before when we rented an Express, but by setting the baud rate to a slower speed the problem went away. Apparently the ENR rack didn't like the faster rate. The Leprechaun board does not offer the option of changing the baud rate. We just borrowed an unused Colortran Encore from the local High School, and it's working fine. I haven't had time to study the manual beyond patching it so I could run in in a basic 2-scene configuration yet, but it looks like it could work for us. I'm still wanting the Express, but I hope to study the manual and get to know the Encore in the mean time. I welcome an opportunity to learn something new, and add to my "knowledge toolbox". Thanks again for all the feedback! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Sound effect Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 09:40:33 -0800 Message-ID: <004901c511f3$263834b0$8d90fea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-Reply-To: And after you find that one in one of the sound groups out of Hollywood, I have been looking for a one minute or two tiger roar. I am going to install it in my car, along with a projection device so that when the thief comes, the face of the tiger appears on the window and the roar scares the holy bjeezuh out of the thief. My car has been stolen twice: once from my garage, where he or she backed it through the garage door, wham bang, and the next time from my parking spot next to my condo, and left another car in its place, still running. Both times car was discovered more than twelve miles away still running but some the worst for joy rides. Doomster -- Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. - www.riskit.com Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Joker7 Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 6:43 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Sound effect For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hi One and All........... I'm looking for a general sound effect of a day time street of about 3 minuets or a size I can loop,but longer the better.I know there some good stuff on the BBC sets but for a one of amateur show I can afford the cost.Is there a web site that may have this or one of you guy's/girl's that would not mind passing on to me. Thanks Chris ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050213094601.03b897c8 [at] localhost> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 09:54:15 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Car theft (was Sound effect) In-Reply-To: References:

At 09:40 AM 2/13/2005, you wrote: >My car has been stolen twice: >once from my garage, where he or she backed it through the garage door, >wham bang, and the next time from my parking spot next to my condo, and >left another car in its place, still running. I've seen two innovative methods of deterring theft. These were both in NJ. The first one put a super cheap alarm in the car, it was a box visible under the dash that just beeped the horn. Quite easy to defeat. Of course, there was a second box well hidden. After the car was put in gear, it would wait about 10 seconds, then short the ignition blowing a fuse. It would also set off a LOUD gong hidden in the trunk under the rear deck. It WAS stolen again, and found blocking traffic a block away with the gong sounding. It wasn't stolen again. The second one was a plumber who had trouble with people taking tools and parts off his truck while he was on call (hard to keep it locked and get a job done). He attached an old Ford spark coil (Model T or A with built-in points) to the truck with a drag chain for the HV contact. He had a remote to turn it on/off. Worked great until a police officer leaned against the truck. He removed it very shortly after that. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050213180641.26655.qmail [at] web50606.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:06:41 -0800 (PST) From: b Ricie Subject: Re: venue information In-Reply-To: I am currently on the road with a Theatrical show. Information that can be found on a web site I find to very helpful as well as easy to get any time of the day or night. If Tec Specs could be broken down by department it makes it easier for me to pass that information off to the departments. Directions(especially truck directions in places with low bridges or other obstructions). Another bit of information that is rarely found but VERY VERY necessary is Medical information. A simple list of local doctors, and medical centers. Last week I found myself going through a phone book looking for what I might think to be a local medical center. When your on the road, in a town for a day with a sick cast or crew member it is very helpful if the venue your at can direct you to the best possible medical solution. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Jason Romney Subject: Re: Sound effect Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:41:29 -0500 On Feb 13, 2005, at 9:43 AM, Joker7 wrote: > I'm looking for a general sound effect of a day time street of about 3 > minuets or a size I can loop,but longer the better. Try these sites: www.sounddogs.com http://www.sound-effects-library.com I've found that it is tough to get something like this that sounds right unless you make it yourself. So you could try making it yourself or you could hire a Sound Designer to make it for you. You might be surprised how affordable something like this can be. Check out the list of designers on RSD's site: http://www.richmondsounddesign.com/ts/snd.html Any of these folks should be able whip up a loopable day time street ambiance in little time. Many of us will even do it for as little as a free drink . . . or doughnuts in my case ;) Jason Romney Sound Design Instructor North Carolina School of the Arts jason [at] cd-romney.com romneyj [at] ncarts.edu http://www.ncarts.edu/ncsaprod/designandproduction/ http://www.cd-romney.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:19:29 -0500 From: MPTecDir [at] aol.com Subject: Re: Venue description format Message-ID: <6BBE3644.20AC1015.00740ECC [at] aol.com> "Bruce Cooper" writes: << ...... 'Gee, there should be a standard of some kind developed for this!' ...................the question is, is there already a format existing ..............>> Bruce, The problem with finding a common format is multi-fold. First, there is no standard theatre space, the specs very from the Met to the converted warehouse for some LORT theatres and of course everything in between. Second there is such a variety of tours looking for different information that it is hard to find a form that answers all the questions. I sat on a Tech Specs pannel at USITT Long Beach and some of the things we "kind of" agreed on were: 1. Try to tailor your spec sheet to the type of group that uses you facility the most often. 2. Organize the information so that it is easy to find, sometimes listing the same info in more than one place. Example: List the aux elec. service (for welding, repairs, equip maintenance etc.) under both lighting and scenery. List Hallway width under both costumes and props. 3. Too much info can be overwhelming. Sometimes a short spec sheet with a lot of "additional" pages can be more informative than one big tome. I know I haven't really answered your question but I'm not sure there really is a good answer. -- Michael Michael Powers, Technical Director U Mass Amherst, Dept of Theatre 112 Fine Arts Center West 151 Presidents Drive Ofc 2 Amherst, MA 01003-9331 Phone: 413-545-6821 Fax: 413-577-0025 http://www.umass.edu/theater/ mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu mptecdir [at] aol.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <420FAC53.7030404 [at] att.net> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:36:51 -0500 From: David Marks Subject: Re: venue information References: In-Reply-To: b Ricie wrote: >Another bit of >information that is rarely found but VERY VERY >necessary is Medical information. A simple list of >local doctors, and medical centers. > Absolutely! On feature film and large commercial call sheets, there is almost always the name, address, and possibly directions to the nearest medical center. dave marks ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050213124114.02033c68 [at] mail.DesignRelief.com> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:54:34 -0600 From: Mitch Hefter Subject: Re: Venue description format [was Venue info sheets] In-Reply-To: References: James Brian wrote: >USITT used to have a format guide publication, think it was about $5 to >buy from them. That is what I used for my sheets. The only problem is >that I have found the rock and roll groups want different information >than the theatrical tours. Part of that is due to the size of the tours, >we tend to get larger rock acts than we theatrical groups. Tom Heemskerk wrote: >Maybe I can save someone the five bucks - the USITT suggestion was once >published as an article in their mag. Available from the USITT online Bookstore for $5, (non-members $7). It is a reprint from the Spring 1996 TD&T. Jason Romney wrote: >This sounds like a great job for the USITT Standards Committee. Anyone >out there on the list serving on the Standards Committee who could get >the ball rolling on something like this? Projects are normally run from committees or groups within the Commissions. The USITT Standards Committee does not write standards, it administers the process. I believe I am safe in stating that the Standards Committee would welcome such a project. I believe the Technical Production Commission did this the last time, and some of the leadership are members of this list. . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mitch Hefter mitch.hefter [at] DesignRelief.com Member USITT Standard Committee Office: Entertainment Technology / a Division of the Genlyte Group mhefter [at] genlyte.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:56:47 -0500 From: Daryl Duell Reply-To: Daryl Duell Subject: Re: Venue information sheets In-Reply-To: References: You can send it my way if you like. I'll take a look at it, and pass it to my head carp... We're in a longish sit for us, and we're a little stir crazy... On a related note, there's been a plan in the back of my head to try to consolidate touring venue information into one location, hopefully with a common format (XML? or something else I can parse easily) and make it available freely. I've got the webspace... Just an idea... I need a project. Daryl Duell Asst. LX/Frontlite Oliver Tour >"James, Brian" wrote: > >> I was curious if there is anybody here that would not mind reading >>over our updated tech packet, and let me know from a tour's perspective >>if there is information that needs to be added, clarified and etc? >> >> This would be a HUGE favor, and if some one has the time and >>willingness, I will email the packet to you. > > Why not just put it on your site's web site? > > --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050213205133.4561.qmail [at] web53605.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:51:33 -0800 (PST) From: Maura McGuinness Subject: New Member looking for a little chinese Hi all- I am new to the list and I was wondering who on the list has worked at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing. I am set to be the master electrician on a new show that will be performing at the Great Hall and then moving the show to Shanghai to perform at the brand new Oriental Arts Center. So if anyone knows anything helpful about these two venues, chime in! Anyone who has any info, advice, tip or speaks Mandarin...please respond! Thanks, Maura McGuinness __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:13:24 -0500 Subject: Re: New Member looking for a little chinese From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 2/13/05 3:51 PM, Maura McGuinness at maura_mcguinness [at] yahoo.com wrote: > Hi all- > > I am new to the list and I was wondering who on the > list has worked at the Great Hall of the People in > Beijing. I am set to be the master electrician on a > new show that will be performing at the Great Hall and > then moving the show to Shanghai to perform at the > brand new Oriental Arts Center. So if anyone knows > anything helpful about these two venues, chime in! > > Anyone who has any info, advice, tip or speaks > Mandarin...please respond! > Hey Maura! How ya doing? Welcome to the monkey house, er, um...I mean Stagecraft list! Can't help you with the Great hall as i've never been there. But I have spent a fair amount of time in that part of the world. I can give you some pointers for dealing with folks there and i can teach you how to count and curse in Mandarin. Both are essential. Give a shout privately. No point in boring everyone else. Be well Bill Don't forget to support the Long Reach long Riders http://www.sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <420FC322.27A3F61C [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:14:10 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: Sound effect References:

Jason Romney wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > On Feb 13, 2005, at 9:43 AM, Joker7 wrote: > > > I'm looking for a general sound effect of a day time street of about 3 > > minuets or a size I can loop,but longer the better. > > Try these sites: > > www.sounddogs.com > http://www.sound-effects-library.com > > I've found that it is tough to get something like this that sounds > right unless you make it yourself. So you could try making it yourself > or you could hire a Sound Designer to make it for you. You might be > surprised how affordable something like this can be. Check out the list > of designers on RSD's site: > > http://www.richmondsounddesign.com/ts/snd.html > > Any of these folks should be able whip up a loopable day time street > ambiance in little time. Many of us will even do it for as little as a > free drink . . . or doughnuts in my case ;) An acquaintance of mine has come up with what he thinks is a very effective anti-theft device for cars equipped with ABS systems. If the code isn't entered to disarm the system, the thing starts tripping the brakes before bad guy can get going very fast, while it tunes the radio to the local classical music station at melt-the-eardrums volume. I'm waiting for him to put it into his car first. --Dale ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Venue description format [was Venue info sheets] Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:11:51 -0800 Message-ID: <00f301c51219$06085960$8d90fea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-Reply-To: Oh, I am sure there is. Oh yes. doom -- Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. - www.riskit.com Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of James, Brian Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:47 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Venue description format [was Venue info sheets] For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- USITT used to have a format guide publication, think it was about $5 to buy from them. That is what I used for my sheets. The only problem is that I have found the rock and roll groups want different information than the theatrical tours. Part of that is due to the size of the tours, we tend to get larger rock acts than we theatrical groups. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Jason Romney Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 10:05 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Venue description format [was Venue info sheets] For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- On Feb 12, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Bruce Cooper wrote: > So, the question is, is there already a format existing [albeit > hidden very well, I've looked] or can we get together as a community > and come up with things ? This sounds like a great job for the USITT Standards Committee. Anyone out there on the list serving on the Standards Committee who could get the ball rolling on something like this? Jason Romney Sound Design Instructor North Carolina School of the Arts jason [at] cd-romney.com romneyj [at] ncarts.edu http://www.ncarts.edu/ncsaprod/designandproduction/ http://www.cd-romney.com ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Sound effect Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:11:51 -0800 Message-ID: <00f401c51219$06739e50$8d90fea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-Reply-To: WOW. Decibels. Thanks doom -- Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. - www.riskit.com Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Dale Farmer Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 1:14 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Sound effect For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Jason Romney wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > On Feb 13, 2005, at 9:43 AM, Joker7 wrote: > > > I'm looking for a general sound effect of a day time street of about 3 > > minuets or a size I can loop,but longer the better. > > Try these sites: > > www.sounddogs.com > http://www.sound-effects-library.com > > I've found that it is tough to get something like this that sounds > right unless you make it yourself. So you could try making it yourself > or you could hire a Sound Designer to make it for you. You might be > surprised how affordable something like this can be. Check out the list > of designers on RSD's site: > > http://www.richmondsounddesign.com/ts/snd.html > > Any of these folks should be able whip up a loopable day time street > ambiance in little time. Many of us will even do it for as little as a > free drink . . . or doughnuts in my case ;) An acquaintance of mine has come up with what he thinks is a very effective anti-theft device for cars equipped with ABS systems. If the code isn't entered to disarm the system, the thing starts tripping the brakes before bad guy can get going very fast, while it tunes the radio to the local classical music station at melt-the-eardrums volume. I'm waiting for him to put it into his car first. --Dale ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Car theft (was Sound effect) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:11:51 -0800 Message-ID: <00ff01c51219$1ca51370$8d90fea9 [at] DrDoomsComputer> In-Reply-To: THANKS. I WILL STICK WITH THE TIGER. DOOM -- Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. - www.riskit.com Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Durand Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:54 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Car theft (was Sound effect) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- At 09:40 AM 2/13/2005, you wrote: >My car has been stolen twice: >once from my garage, where he or she backed it through the garage door, >wham bang, and the next time from my parking spot next to my condo, and >left another car in its place, still running. I've seen two innovative methods of deterring theft. These were both in NJ. The first one put a super cheap alarm in the car, it was a box visible under the dash that just beeped the horn. Quite easy to defeat. Of course, there was a second box well hidden. After the car was put in gear, it would wait about 10 seconds, then short the ignition blowing a fuse. It would also set off a LOUD gong hidden in the trunk under the rear deck. It WAS stolen again, and found blocking traffic a block away with the gong sounding. It wasn't stolen again. The second one was a plumber who had trouble with people taking tools and parts off his truck while he was on call (hard to keep it locked and get a job done). He attached an old Ford spark coil (Model T or A with built-in points) to the truck with a drag chain for the HV contact. He had a remote to turn it on/off. Worked great until a police officer leaned against the truck. He removed it very shortly after that. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:23:43 -0600 Subject: Re: Car theft (was Sound effect) From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Doom, In Tennessee they booby trap them with a shotgun. It's a little messy but highly effective. :-) Greg Persinger Vivid Illumination Greg [at] Vividillumination.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Venue description format Reply-To: coop.ie [at] excite.com From: "Bruce Cooper" Message-Id: <20050213230613.EF1061BD82 [at] xprdmailfe23.nwk.excite.com> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:06:13 -0500 (EST) Dale Farmer wrote ------------------------------------- > Heck, the ball is already rolling on this list. Here is a strawman for > folks > to bash at: I'll be happy to compile this into a document for folks to view/ download/ peruse and post it on a website for all to see. So please, folks, bash at will. It might be helpful, once the general areas have hashed themselves out, to get into specifics for each area. I'll be happy to corral any/all of it. :Bruce Cooper P.S. If anyone has a link to the USITT article I'd love to have it. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1a4.318a795d.2f413ad2 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:20:50 EST Subject: Re: Venue description format In a message dated 13/02/05 19:20:00 GMT Standard Time, MPTecDir [at] aol.com writes: > The problem with finding a common format is multi-fold. First, there is no > standard theatre space, the specs very from the Met to the converted > warehouse for some LORT theatres and of course everything in between. Second > there is such a variety of tours looking for different information that it is > hard to find a form that answers all the questions. > > I sat on a Tech Specs pannel at USITT Long Beach and some of the things we " > kind of" agreed on were: > 1. Try to tailor your spec sheet to the type of group that uses you > facility the most often. > 2. Organize the information so that it is easy to find, sometimes listing > the same info in more than one place. Example: List the aux elec. service ( > for welding, repairs, equip maintenance etc.) under both lighting and scenery. > List Hallway width under both costumes and props. > 3. Too much info can be overwhelming. Sometimes a short spec sheet with a > lot of "additional" pages can be more informative than one big tome. > > I know I haven't really answered your question but I'm not sure there really > is a good answer. Nor am I. The theatre in which I work, mostly, compounds the problem by being adaptable. Anything from full in-the-round to straight proscenium. It is possible to specify the show control, the lighting and sound control, and the lighting inventory, and the available lighting positions. But it really needs a site visit by the TD, to be met by one of our technical experts, to sort it all out. There are many possibilities, and some impossibilities. You need the experts to talk together, and to write down what they have agreed. The last bit is vital. If the load-in crew arrives to find that they have to hump the set thirty yards to the scene dock doors, due to a height restriction, they may well become quite vociferous. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Venue description format Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:22:20 -0500 Message-ID: <89DE71075FCD6E44A4D117FBFBBD801C09F9B131 [at] fangorn.cc.vt.edu> From: "James, Brian" Cc: coop.ie [at] excite.com When I was looking around at other venues sheets, to come up with a = format, one thing I noticed was a lack of laying venue policies out in = black and white. Simple things like can non-house technicians operate house equipment? Is = there a performance curfew on the venue? Is there a unique relationship = with the police that the crew should know about (very common on college = campuses, especially state universities. For instance, here the = University PD goes any where they want, whenever they want, since we are = a state owned building the campus PD has primary jurisdiction over the = building 24/7. I have found most road shows can deal with just about any = policy, as long as they know about it ahead of time. Disclosure of these = small details seems to be the key to a reasonable day. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Bruce Cooper Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 6:06 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Venue description format For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Dale Farmer wrote ------------------------------------- > Heck, the ball is already rolling on this list. Here is a strawman for > folks > to bash at: I'll be happy to compile this into a document for folks to view/ = download/ peruse and post it on a website for all to see. So please, = folks, bash at will. It might be helpful, once the general areas have hashed themselves = out, to get into specifics for each area. I'll be happy to corral = any/all of it. :Bruce Cooper P.S. If anyone has a link to the USITT article I'd love to have it. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:51:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Sound effect In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Jason Romney wrote: > I've found that it is tough to get something like this that sounds right > unless you make it yourself. So you could try making it yourself or you could > hire a Sound Designer to make it for you. You might be surprised how > affordable something like this can be. Check out the list of designers on > RSD's site: > > http://www.richmondsounddesign.com/ts/snd.html > > Any of these folks should be able whip up a loopable day time street ambiance > in little time. Many of us will even do it for as little as a free drink . . > . or doughnuts in my case ;) Thanks for the reference, Jason! I can also suggest our list of web based "Sound on the Web" resources: http://www.richmondsounddesign.com/ts/sow.html Good luck! Charlie ------------------------------ Subject: Re: New Lighting System Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:52:22 -0500 Sarah Shouldn't the vendor be providing some help? At least a warning about the little pins from the power supply? Seems like just dumping a console at a high-school could eventually land ETC with some warranty issues. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:22:37 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Harrison Subject: new lighting system In-Reply-To: Hello everyone, well it finally happened, they replaced our per 1980's lighting system with a new ETC 24/48 ( wanted a 48/96) guess you can't have everything. My question is, is there a tutorial or video tutorial available on how to program the ETC board? I have download the offline editor and the quick notes and I have the manual. I figured out the basics enough to program a simple show but, I would like to know how this board really works. Any help would be great. Thanks Roger Harrison T.D. Aztec High School Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ********** E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act. ********** ------------------------------ Message-ID: <016c01c51230$2f1b0fc0$6a0a0a0a [at] schulershook.net> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Re: Lighting Heat Load Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:57:34 -0600 My answer to "how" should be "Hire a professional theatre consultant." This is one of those more difficult planning issues I face on every project. I tend to look at how many fixtures of what average wattage are likely to ever be hung and focused and recommend the mechanical engineer design for about 75% of that. If the stage is zoned separate from the house I usually put 30-40%` in the house and the remainder on stage - tempered with the likely programming for the space. These are averages - typical for a multi purpose theatre in a high school or college perhaps. I also try to keep mental track of projects and which ones EVER had a complaint or comment on heat and see how the cfm's of cool air compare. (This would have to be adjusted for the increasingly common displacement systems.) This is a very general guideline and I adjust for every project based on judgments. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000301c51232$67e93a50$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: New Lighting System Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:13:35 -0800 > Shouldn't the vendor be providing some help? At least a warning about the > little pins from the power supply? Seems like just dumping a console at a > high-school could eventually land ETC with some warranty issues. That's why ETC has a dealer network - it's the dealer's responsibility. Oh, and those silly micro-pin power supplies - they've replaced them with beefier connectors - instead of S-videoo-like connections, it's now a MIDI-like connection. Yay for ETC. (When it was the mini-pins, a dealer nearly charged me $90 to get a new power supply from ETC, until I was smart and checked online and found it's the same as some laptop power supplies, and only cost me $23 to replace.) -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:06:04 -0600 From: FREDERICK W FISHER Subject: Re: Venue description format Message-id: <753b32752423.752423753b32 [at] wiscmail.wisc.edu> Brian James wrote: > > When I was looking around at other venues sheets, to come up with a > format, one thing I noticed was a lack of laying venue policies out > in black and white. > I agree with what an earlier writer posted about not getting too much info into a packet. I like to have written (e-mail) and/or telephone contact with someone from the show before they arrive and answer whatever questions they might have. That way, I have an idea of what is important to them and can deal with it easily. Also, pick the house policies you want to enforce carefully. I feel it isn't necessary to be rigid about your everyday house rules for someone who is there for a few hours unless it endangers someone. If someone wants to smoke and they ask, we show them where they can smoke outside. If someone doesn't ask and smokes inside, I'll let it slide. I figure they'll be gone tomorrow and it's not worth getting into a row about. Fred Fisher ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Venue description format Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:42:08 -0500 Message-ID: <89DE71075FCD6E44A4D117FBFBBD801C09F9B13B [at] fangorn.cc.vt.edu> From: "James, Brian" Very true, but if it is non-negotiable for what ever reason, might as = well have it out there. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of FREDERICK W FISHER Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:06 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Venue description format For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Brian James wrote: >=20 > When I was looking around at other venues sheets, to come up with a=20 > format, one thing I noticed was a lack of laying venue policies out=20 > in black and white. >=20 I agree with what an earlier writer posted about not getting too much = info=20 into a packet. I like to have written (e-mail) and/or telephone contact with someone from the show before they arrive and answer whatever questions = they=20 might have. That way, I have an idea of what is important to them and can deal=20 with it easily. Also, pick the house policies you want to enforce carefully. I=20 feel it isn't necessary to be rigid about your everyday house rules for someone=20 who is there for a few hours unless it endangers someone. If someone wants to smoke and they ask, we show them where they can smoke outside. If someone doesn't ask and smokes inside, I'll let it slide. I figure they'll be gone tomorrow and it's not worth getting into a row about. Fred Fisher ------------------------------ Message-ID: <421011F0.7320E51A [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:50:24 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: Venue description format References: FREDERICK W FISHER wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Brian James wrote: > > > > When I was looking around at other venues sheets, to come up with a > > format, one thing I noticed was a lack of laying venue policies out > > in black and white. > > > I agree with what an earlier writer posted about not getting too much info > into a packet. I like to have written (e-mail) and/or telephone contact > with > someone from the show before they arrive and answer whatever questions they > might have. That way, I have an idea of what is important to them and > can deal > with it easily. Also, pick the house policies you want to enforce > carefully. I > feel it isn't necessary to be rigid about your everyday house rules for > someone > who is there for a few hours unless it endangers someone. If someone > wants to smoke > and they ask, we show them where they can smoke outside. If someone > doesn't ask > and smokes inside, I'll let it slide. I figure they'll be gone tomorrow > and it's not worth getting into a row about. > Fred Fisher SOme things don't need to be in the information packet, but they do need to be available onsite. Things like local directions to all the good local ethnic restaurants, gas stations, drugstores, hospital ER, local walk-in medical center and dental offices and which insurance plans they cover; supermarket, caterer, 24 hour pizza delivery phone number, rental houses, lumberyard, hardware store, fabric supply place, dry cleaners and Laundromat. Local truck repair shops, and the truck tire repair and towing service. All of this sort of stuff and be stuffed onto a web page once, then folks can just print them out when needed. --Dale ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <2BB15A6A-7E43-11D9-BFE4-00039313C6D2 [at] ucla.edu> From: Samuel Jones Subject: Re: New Member looking for a little chinese Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:44:54 -0800 And you thought this would be boring? Why? Sam Samuel L. Jones Technical Director, Dance Program, Dept. of World Arts and Cultures, UCLA. sjones [at] arts.ucla.edu ============================================ On Feb 13, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Bill Sapsis wrote: > Can't help you with the Great hall as i've never been there. But I > have > spent a fair amount of time in that part of the world. I can give you > some > pointers for dealing with folks there and i can teach you how to count > and > curse in Mandarin. Both are essential. > > Give a shout privately. No point in boring everyone else. > ------------------------------ From: "Andy Leviss" Subject: RE: Small World Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:24:28 -0500 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <000a01c5124d$17b61d80$d9fa010a [at] AndyLeviss> In-Reply-To: Paul Guncheon wrote: > Ohmigod... I and most of my family were also stuck in the > "It's a Small World" ride for 45 minutes. I now kill > singing puppets without hesitancy or mercy. That's what I said when I got stuck in IASW, too. Now I work with "singing", dancing Muppets. Never say never, LOL. --Andy Leviss Sound Engineer Sesame Street Live: Elmo's Coloring Book This week: Austin, TX Next week: Grand Prairie, TX -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 ------------------------------ From: "Andy Leviss" Subject: RE: Car theft (was Sound effect) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:51:31 -0500 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <000e01c51250$da109290$d9fa010a [at] AndyLeviss> In-Reply-To: Personally, my favorite was the story of the one time I've ever heard of "The Club" actually preventing a car theft. Seems an old lady was being carjacked, and pulled hers off the floor and clocked the would-be carjacker over the head with it! I always said that the false sense of security that "The Club" provides is so laughable that, were I of a non-law-abiding nature, I would become a car thief who only stole cars protected by "The Club", and I would leave said device behind in the parking space as my signature. --Andy Leviss Blogger-in-Chief/General Grand Poobah http://OneFromTheRoad.com Tools, Toys, and Tales for the Theatrical Technician -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:42:49 GMT Subject: Re: Car theft (was Sound effect) Message-Id: <20050213.234343.54.11280 [at] webmail04.lax.untd.com> On more than a few occasions, the presence of 'The Club' has turned what would be a simple (insured) car theft into an armed robbery to obtain the keys, which is far more dangerous to the victim. /s/ Richard Personally, my favorite was the story of the one time I've ever heard of "The Club" actually preventing a car theft. Seems an old lady was being carjacked, and pulled hers off the floor and clocked the would-be carjacker over the head with it! --Andy Leviss ------------------------------ From: "Bill Brinsley" Subject: bounce test Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:47:01 +1300 Organization: Light Fx Limited Message-ID: bounce test ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #295 *****************************