Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 18627826; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:00:50 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #297 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:00:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #297 1. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by "Bill Conner" 2. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by Bill Sapsis 3. Re: Absinthe (was Re: Heat bending PVC, Safety??) by anna labykina 4. Job Opening in Academia by "Jonathan Wills" 5. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" 6. anyone know who is out on the Queensryche tour? by Michael Sorensen 7. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by "Stephen E. Rees" 8. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by Mike Katz 9. Research Request by "Stephen E. Rees" 10. Costumer Postion and Costume shop info requested by "Phil Johnson" 11. Re: Costumer Postion and Costume shop info requested by Stephen Litterst 12. Re: Costumer Postion and Costume shop info requested by "Matthew Breton" 13. ETC board by Roger Harrison 14. Re: venue ryders - radio freq. by "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" 15. Re: You know it's going to be a bad show day when.... by Kurt Cypher 16. Re: ETC board by Adam Fitchett 17. Re: ETC board by Mike Brubaker 18. Re: Costumer Postion and Costume shop info requested by MissWisc [at] aol.com 19. Herrick's photo by Nathan Kahn/Look Solutions 20. Re: Herrick's photo by Herrick Goldman 21. Re: Herrick's photo by "Joe Golden" 22. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by Stuart Wheaton 23. Re: Herrick's photo by Mike Brubaker 24. Re: Herrick's photo by Stephen Litterst 25. Re: Herrick's photo by "Joe Golden" 26. Re: ETC board by Stuart Wheaton 27. Re: Herrick's photo by Herrick Goldman 28. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" 29. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by Bill Sapsis 30. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by "Christopher K. Nimm" 31. Projector search by "Jeffrey Kanyuck" 32. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by Greg Bierly 33. Re: Projector search by "Jon Lagerquist" 34. Re: Herrick's photo by David Wetmore 35. Re: Projector search by Stephen Litterst 36. Re: Herrick's photo by Herrick Goldman 37. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" 38. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by "jknipple" 39. Re: ETC board by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 40. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by "Stephen E. Rees" 41. Re: Projector search by "Jon Lagerquist" 42. Re: New Lighting System by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 43. Speia Tone by "Chris Warner" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <003d01c5135a$1c50aa00$690a0a0a [at] schulershook.net> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:30:12 -0600 Question to Bill Sapsis: Based on your advice to remove a bottom batten from a unused, stored-in-the-fly loft sky drop, do you also recommend removing the chain from a unused intermediate traveler? Can't these also fail for the same reasons and result in the chain falling? And the fact that half the drop fell makes me wonder if it was a bottom hem failure. If this is really a serious danger, perhaps the practice of leaving the pipe in should be prohibited by regulation. (Perversely, I believe the change from long ago of regularly storing large amounts of scenery in the loft to mostly stripping a stage except for a masking set and the current production has been most of the reason for so very few large stage fires. Perhaps it would be best practice to store as little combustibles as possible in the fly loft everyday.) Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:43:24 -0500 Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 2/15/05 7:30 AM, Bill Conner at bill-conner [at] att.net wrote: > Question to Bill Sapsis: Based on your advice to remove a bottom batten > from a unused, stored-in-the-fly loft sky drop, do you also recommend > removing the chain from a unused intermediate traveler? Can't these also > fail for the same reasons and result in the chain falling? And the fact > that half the drop fell makes me wonder if it was a bottom hem failure. It was the bottom hem that failed. Cyc's do not usually have a separate pocket for the pipe. Just a large enough hem to get the pipe in. A velour drop has a separate chain pocket, or at least a lining in the pocket. I think that the hem started to rot away and could not support the weight of the pipe. Chain, I believe, is also lighter than pipe. I haven't read all the posts on this thread but I believe there was some discussion on the pipe _vs_ emt issue. IMHO, emt is too light to do the job adequately and pipe is heavy enough to cause a hem failure. (Is that something like a wardrobe failure?) Thanks Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050215140510.6218.qmail [at] web50110.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:05:10 -0800 (PST) From: anna labykina Subject: Re: Absinthe (was Re: Heat bending PVC, Safety??) In-Reply-To: Thank you for the FAQ! I was going to post a link to same, but now will just make a note - I had some Spanish Absinthe a couple of years back, and it was heavy in anise and wicked sweet - the dripping over the sugar spoon only made it worse (since all involved wanted an "authentic" experience.) The famed green colour was actually a cloudy off-white with a tinge of green (but the bottle was green:) Overall I felt I was drinking cough syrop, and the alcohol content was similar to that of strong wine, so one probably had to down the whole bottle to get any side-effects or even drunk... Anna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jonathan Wills" Subject: Job Opening in Academia Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:57:18 -0500 Organization: Wills Lighting & Stage Message-ID: <0MKz5u-1D148W0mno-0006AL [at] mrelay.perfora.net> The powers that be at the College I am leaving have finally approved upgrading my position to a faculty position. Below is the description and contact info. If you have any questions about it please feel free to contact me. I have done this job for 6.5 years so I can answer just about any question you have. School-- College of Arts & Sciences Position--Instructor in Drama- Technical Theatre Details The Communication and the Arts Department, Lee University, a Christian Liberal Arts University in the Pentecostal tradition (Church of God, Cleveland, TN) invites applications for a full-time position in technical theatre to begin August 1, 2005. Candidates must have practical experience in the design and construction of sets and lights, and ideally will also have sound design experience. An M.F.A. is preferred, but applicants with an M.A. will also be considered. The candidate will teach 3-4 courses per year including Stagecraft, Lighting and Sound Design, Scene and Set Design, and will design and construct/implement the sets and lights for three stage productions. The candidate will also help develop course offerings in technical drama. College teaching experience is preferred. Women and minorities are strongly encouraged to apply. Status-- Full-time Contact Procedure Candidates should submit a letter of application, vitae, a portfolio with six images of recent designs, and statement of Christian faith. Please comment on the relationship between your academic discipline and Christian beliefs to the mission of Lee University. To help us evaluate your potential role as a member of our university, please also include a statement regarding your religious conversion and your Christian commitment. Submit the above information, along with three letters of reference and student evaluations (if applicable), to Dr. Michael J. Laney, Chairperson, Department of Communication and the Arts, Lee University, 1120 North Ocoee Street, Cleveland, TN 37311. Contact --Dr. Michael J. Laney Email --mlaney [at] leeuniversity.edu Phone --423-614-8229 Start Date-- August 1, 2005 No. Of Positions-- 1 Thank you, Jonathan Wills Wills Lighting and Stage www.WillsLighting.com Toll Free 866.909.4557 Local 423.559.0606 Fax 423.559.0071 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" Subject: RE: Curtain pipe safety cable Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:44:06 -0500 On the other hand, if you do not have a bottom pipe in the drop then gets all wavy and wafts in the breeze and is more likely to catch on something else. Steve Waxler Technical Director College Conservatory of Music University of Cincinnati d) The curtain is more likely to tear when there's weight in the bottom. if something brushes against the cyc when there is no weight, then the fabric moves away easier. With weight there's resistance and when there's resistance, you get a hole. usually the hole starts out the size of a finger. You know...the finger of an 8 yr. old ballerina from Aunt Suzie's dance class who was just being curious. (wow. what's this thing???? oooops.) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050215161225.23062.qmail [at] web50707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:12:24 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Sorensen Subject: anyone know who is out on the Queensryche tour? In-Reply-To: (dropping out of lurk mode) Hi Gang... Anyone here know who the production company/crew is out on the Queensryche tour? I have a number of questions about the show I saw last night here in Tucson. I'm ASSuming that the techs were having a very, very, very, very, VERY BAD NIGHT as can happen on tour (been there, done that!) Thanks... Michael Sorensen Proton Lighting and Video "We positively charge up your show!" ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4212230C.5050706 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:27:56 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable References: Hi, This thread has caused me to take a close look last night during loadin at my piped softgoods that are now in the air. They are of two types, internal pipe pocket in a painted muslin cyc and polyester twill ties stitched into the bottom hem on 2 foot centers for a 32x50 filled leno scrim cyc. We use 3/4" galv. conduit in 10' joints threaded together. The pipe in the muslin cyc weighs ~80# total. At the moment, the same is true for the leno scrim. No real problems with either but I'm thinking that I'll take the pipe out of the muslin piece because the stitching is about 10 years old, but leave it installed on the scrim which is just 2 years old. Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:36:50 -0500 From: Mike Katz Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable I used to tie the bottom pipe and drop loosely to the top pipe to store if I needed to temporally stow a drop for a short time (Like reefing a sail). It takes the load off of the fabric, puts the drop out of harms way, keeps it from getting tangled, and if you tie it loosely with muslin or soft jute ties it does not wrinkle badly. Nowadays working in a theater with a 16' grid, I do not have to worry about such things on a regular basis. Mike At 10:44 AM -0500 2/15/05, Waxler, Steve (waxlers) wrote: > >On the other hand, if you do not have a bottom pipe in the drop then gets >all wavy and wafts in the breeze and is more likely to catch on something >else. > -- Mike Katz Technical Director MIT Theater Arts Rinaldi Tile Building 77 Mass Ave E33-101 Cambridge MA 02139 617.253.0824 mkatz [at] mit.edu "Lunacy Abounds" ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42122D33.3070700 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:11:15 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Research Request Hi All, A former colleague of mine is completing her MFA and is involved with a higher education class that has a case study component to it. She is seeking to perform this research on a newly created college theatre department. She asked if I knew of any but I don't. If anyone out there is aware of a recently created department of theatre and would be willing to consider being part of her study, please contact me off-list and I will put the parties together. thanks in advance. Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:32:58 -0600 From: "Phil Johnson" Subject: Costumer Postion and Costume shop info requested Hey folks We are making a new costume shop. Here is what we are looking at. 4 new machines 2 sergers 1 industiral iron cutting tables (what size?) We have Washer, Dryer, wand steamer and costume storage area. What else am I missing other than storage Also I wanted to make sure this got out to all interested parties. This is a new position in a growing program. If you have any questions you can email me off list or use the contact info on the announcement. This is a start from scratch position. Lots of potential. Assistant Professor of Theatre, Costume Design Title: Theatre Generalist/Costume Design Rank: Assistant Professor of Theatre, Tenure Track (pending funding). Qualifications/Experience: Ph.D. or MFA is required at the time of the appointment. Successful university level teaching is preferred. Preference will be given to candidates who have directing experience. Candidate will have demonstrated ability to interact well with colleagues, students, community, and a culturally diverse population. Responsibilities: Teaching costume construction and design and designing costumes for the theatre season. Opportunity to teach other courses for which candidate is qualified. Secondary responsibilities include directing and make-up design. Candidates are expected to be quality teachers, scholars, and citizens of the academy. These qualities must be demonstrated through a variety of student learning outcomes, through refereed publications and creative products, including external grants, and through service on local and professional committees. Application Procedure: Submit letter of application, curriculum vita and five current letters of reference attesting to the required qualifications and experience and a copy of transcripts for all college level study to: Mr. J. Don Luna, Chair Department of Communication & Theatre Texas A & M University-Corpus Christi 6300 Ocean Drive, CA107, Unit #5722 Corpus Christi, TX 78412-5722 Deadline for Applications: March 10, 2005 Date of Appointment: Fall, 2005 Contact Information: E-mail : linda.villarreal [at] mail.tamucc.edu Phone : (361) 825-2316 Mr. J. Don Luna Chair, Theatre Search Committe Communication & Theatre Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi 6300 Ocean Drive #CA107, Unit 5722 Corpus Christi, TX 78412 - 5722 Philip Johnson Designer/Technical Director Texas A & M University - Corpus Christi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:59:43 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Costumer Postion and Costume shop info requested Message-id: <4212388F.F940746B [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Phil Johnson wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hey folks > > We are making a new costume shop. Here is what we are looking at. > > 4 new machines > 2 sergers > 1 industiral iron > cutting tables (what size?) More irons. You'll be ironing more than you'll be serging most likely. I'd also look at an industrial steamer, stove top/hot plates for heating dye water, some sort of dye vat (well ventilated of course). Steve LItterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: RE: Costumer Postion and Costume shop info requested Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:05:43 -0500 >We are making a new costume shop. Here is what we are looking at. [snip] >What else am I missing other than storage This depends on exactly how much you expect your costumers to handle. If you do period pieces with stage combat, leather, metal (mail) or resin casting may be appropriate. Do you plan on ever making your own hats, shoes, or wigs? Castered garment racks, obviously. Tailor's dummies or mannequins. Wig and hat storage and displays. Bulk storage for bolts of cloth; maybe a pipe rack for dispensing cloth from bolts. Occasionally, costume departments are also called on to handle soft goods for a theater (a lot of sewing in both), so be prepared to handle those needs as well. Go grommets! ;) -- Matt ======== _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050215181709.78437.qmail [at] web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:17:09 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Harrison Subject: ETC board In-Reply-To: Hey all thanks to everyone that sent ETC files to help us learn our new board. For the others that said �just use the manual� well, we are and will continue to do so. It's difficult to use the manual if you don't know what their talking about. Our old board didn't have any type of programming at all. 2 scene manual sliders and bump buttons. No monitor, No go button, no presets. A real antique, so for us to go from that to the ETC 24/48 is a huge leap in technology. We did get 4 hours of training when they put the board in but, really how much can you learn and retain in 4 hours when we didn�t even get to touch the board. It was this is how you do this and this how you do that. So for you lighting board programming experts who popped off with �just use the manual� Everyone has to start somewhere. Would you just hand a student a manual and tell them to go program a show? I don�t think so! Someone has to coach them along. Explain what some terms are and how to access some features. All I was asking is if anyone had a better tutorial than the one ETC has. Something we could show the kids and learn together. Again thank you to the people that sent files. Roger Harrison T.D. Aztec High School Aztec New Mexico __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <297C9E3B63B2D3119C8100508B5ED28F1602002A [at] exchange2.ubc.ca> From: "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" Subject: RE:venue ryders - radio freq. Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:30:37 -0800 Regarding the idea of posting the venue's used radio frequencies in the venue specs, I floated that idea past our sound tech. (we've been having discussions regarding European tours with their wireless gear broadcasting outside Canada's permitted frequencies for the audio entertainment usage). His point was that the frequencies used, either by the touring equipment, or by the house gear, is only one part of the radio system. Also to consider is the range, broadcast strength of the touring gear, etc, which makes it rather misleading to limit it only to a discussion regarding frequencies. We're within walking distance of a hospital, police station, and a military base, and with in 20km of a major airport and a coast guard station. Even if the wireless system won't work that far apart, its radio energy is still able to affect sensitive equipment that far away. Andrew M. Riter Head Lighting Technician Chan Centre ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:44:01 -0500 From: Kurt Cypher Subject: Re: You know it's going to be a bad show day when.... In-reply-to: Message-id: <421242F1.3010701 [at] cyphernet.homedns.org> References: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >In a message dated 06/02/05 15:33:39 GMT Standard Time, roguerpj [at] mn.rr.com >writes: > > > >>Easy, >> >> you get to the theatre for a 7 am call and there is no coffee within a >> 2 mile radius to the building. >> >> > >The lead in the musical you're doing calls to say he is stuck in a train from >Birmingham due to the overhead lines being down. This half an hour before >curtain up, and with no understudy. > > > >Frank Wood > > About forty-five minutes before opening-night curtain of a community-theater production of "Kiss Me, Kate", we received word that our female lead was in a car accident on her way to the theater, and was on her way to the hospital with possible bruised ribs. That was bad enough, and we might have been able to find someone to fill in at the very last possible moment (barely had enough people audition to cast the show, let alone have understudies), but her husband, who had walked to the theater that evening, went to the hospital to make sure she (and their daughter, who was also in the car) was OK. Unfortunately, he happened to be the MALE lead in the show. Needless to say, opening weekend didn't go quite as planned, and the show's opening was postponed for for a week. Luckily, they both survived the crash relatively unscathed and she was able to perform the following weekend, though I do recall that it wasn't without some amount of pain, due to bruised ribs. Kurt ------------------------------ Message-ID: <421243DF.60008 [at] fitchtech.net> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:47:59 -0500 From: Adam Fitchett Subject: Re: ETC board References: In-Reply-To: Roger Harrison wrote: >"Would you just hand a student a manual and tell them to go program a show?" > That's actually exactly how I was taught. I went to work for a theatre while I was in high school and they use a 48/96. For the most part they said "here's the manual, have fun" and for a while I complained and begged for instruction but due to lack of time that wasn't really an option. Forcing me to look it up and learn it on my own caused me to retain the information better and if I didn't remember it I knew where to go if I had the same problem. By the time I left I had learned how to use the board as good as and at times better than my manager - and I'm a sound guy... -Adam Fitchett formerly of the Amador Theater - Pleasanton, CA ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050215135616.01d72640 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:02:57 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: ETC board In-Reply-To: References:

A basic framework or skeleton on which to hang the information makes it both easier and more efficient to learn the ins and outs of the technology. Such as how the console is organized (software and hardware) and what kinds of information and commands might be found where. Even that much structure makes the "learn as you go" process much easier. I learned on an ETC Expression. It took me a very long time to remember that on Strand consoles, nothing happens until you press the "enter" key. And the basic organization is entirely different. I was very frustrated with the console until someone else, much more familiar, walked me through the basic logic of the board. I still don't know all of the commands of the Strand boards, but I know where to look. Four hours might have been enough to teach the logic of the console, if not all the details. Mike At 01:47 PM 2/15/2005, Adam Fitchett wrote: >Roger Harrison wrote: > >>"Would you just hand a student a manual and tell them to go program a show?" >That's actually exactly how I was taught. I went to work for a theatre >while I was in high school and they use a 48/96. For the most part they >said "here's the manual, have fun" and for a while I complained and begged >for instruction but due to lack of time ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:22:36 EST Subject: Re: Costumer Postion and Costume shop info requested Cc: Phil.Johnson [at] mail.tamucc.edu In a message dated 2/15/5 11:34:41 AM, Phil.Johnson [at] mail.tamucc.edu wrote: <<4 new machines 2 sergers 1 industiral iron cutting tables (what size?) We have Washer, Dryer, wand steamer and costume storage area.>> I'd go with 3 machines and 2-3 more irons and boards. Make certain the machines are very versatile but don't go for the "1,000 embroidery patterns built in" Get ones that are tough and that local repair people can maintain. I'd also suggest an additional steamer. *Cutting tables on wheels with casters that lock so you can roll 2-3-4 together and lock in place for larger pieces as needed. I'd ask for 4' x 8' tops. Might make a way to raise them if needed. (Would make a good project for your intro stagecraft students to build. Have them put some storage underneath also but make the storage high enough that you can get a broom under it to clean out anything that gets dropped.) Get really fancy and make them so they can stand on end chained to the wall when not needed. *Shoe storage racks *Storage for small items (jewelry, sewing notions) Roll up bags make great jewelry storage - make them with clear pockets and fabric backs. *Fire retardant lockable storage cabinet for chemicals/dyes/sprays *At least 2 large sinks for handwashing/dying and another small one for hands *More storage space humidifier/dehumidifer Twice as many outlets as you think you need. Place for computer to tie into the internet/college intranet Kristi ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20050215142956.01dea888 [at] 212.86.129.164> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:32:59 -0500 From: Nathan Kahn/Look Solutions Subject: Herrick's photo In-Reply-To: References: >Herrick Goldman >Lighting Designer, NYC >www.HGLightingDesign.com >917-797-3624 >"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in >light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS Thanks to Lighting Dimensions 2/05 issue, I shall now be unable to read your posts without the image of you smoking a cigar popping into my head! Nathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Look Solutions USA, Ltd. 114 W. Third St. Waynesboro, PA 17268 Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 Phone: 1-717-762-7490 Fax: 1-717-762-7366 Company Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com Personal Email: nk [at] looksolutions.com Web: www.looksolutions.com and www.fogspecs.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:48:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Herrick's photo From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Damn, And here I was hoping to skate by without that one being noticed! What can I say? It was the best picture I had at the moment. Sadly they photo-shopped it. I believe in the original I have a black eye and the flash gave me red eye. I was at a wedding somewhere. My Sicilian/attorney/wife loves that photo. She has it on her desk and claims it looks like I just whacked someone. Slinking away now hoping no one else has a copy. -H On 2/15/05 2:32 PM, "Nathan Kahn/Look Solutions" wrote: > > > Thanks to Lighting Dimensions 2/05 issue, I shall now be unable to read > your posts without the image of you smoking a cigar popping into my head! > > Nathan > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Look Solutions USA, Ltd. > 114 W. Third St. > Waynesboro, PA 17268 > Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 > Phone: 1-717-762-7490 > Fax: 1-717-762-7366 > Company Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com > Personal Email: nk [at] looksolutions.com > Web: www.looksolutions.com and www.fogspecs.com > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Herrick's photo Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:02:17 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Joe Golden" That's a great image, you whacking someone ;) Joe . >=20 > My Sicilian/attorney/wife loves that photo. She has it on her=20 > desk and claims it looks like I just whacked someone. >=20 > Slinking away now hoping no one else has a copy. >=20 > -H > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <421257E7.7090902 [at] fuse.net> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:13:27 -0500 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable References: In-Reply-To: Bill Sapsis wrote: > It was the bottom hem that failed. Cyc's do not usually have a separate > pocket for the pipe. Just a large enough hem to get the pipe in. A velour > drop has a separate chain pocket, or at least a lining in the pocket. With all due respect Bill, He did say that half the cyc came down with the pipe, and that it happened in a scene change. So I would guess that something snagged the cyc, and being a wrap-around cyc that's no challenge really, maybe even lifted the cyc a ways before it slipped off the outgoing pipe and shock-loaded the 15 year old fabric, which then split and the lower part came down with the bottom pipe still in the pocket. Just speculation.... Wrap-arounds have bottom pipes that are hard to just toss on the pipe rack, given their curved nature, but perhaps the best thing would be to grid the thing after neatly west-coasting it into a protective bag of some sort? Then the weight would be borne by the bag and the west coasting slings, and not carried by the fabric at all? Most of the goods failures I've seen were from shock loads, on a rotten or worn curtain. > > I think that the hem started to rot away and could not support the weight of > the pipe. Stuart ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050215150752.01da6270 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:08:45 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Herrick's photo In-Reply-To: References: If someone would be so kind as to post the issue and page number, fewer of us would allow Herrick to slink by... Mike At 03:02 PM 2/15/2005, Joe Golden wrote: >That's a great image, you whacking someone ;) > > > > My Sicilian/attorney/wife loves that photo. She has it on her > > desk and claims it looks like I just whacked someone. > > > > Slinking away now hoping no one else has a copy. > > > > -H > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:14:15 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Herrick's photo Message-id: <42125817.30A3CAA8 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References:

Mike Brubaker wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > If someone would be so kind as to post the issue and page number, fewer of > us would allow Herrick to slink by... Feb 2005. Pg 9. Steve Litterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Herrick's photo Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:17:24 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Joe Golden" It isn't available online yet, but it is the February issue pg 9 upper right corner. > If someone would be so kind as to post the issue and page=20 > number, fewer of=20 > us would allow Herrick to slink by... >=20 > Mike ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42125AED.30300 [at] fuse.net> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:26:21 -0500 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: ETC board References:

In-Reply-To: Mike Brubaker wrote: > Four hours might have been enough to teach the logic of the console, if > not all the details. > > Mike Yeah, but it should have been four hours of hands on, with the pro watching over your shoulder, not just you watching somebody who knows how to run it... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:28:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Herrick's photo From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: You should see me on a bad day. ;) I'm about to go to Manila and have been told to expect crew to saunter in sometimes 3 hours late. I'm an "early is on time, on time is late kinda guy" I'm getting a T-shirt made that says: "Firedance (the name of the show) SERENITY NOW!!!" As long as there is a bar nearby it will all be ok. :) -H On 2/15/05 3:02 PM, "Joe Golden" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > That's a great image, you whacking someone ;) > > Joe > . >> >> My Sicilian/attorney/wife loves that photo. She has it on her >> desk and claims it looks like I just whacked someone. >> >> Slinking away now hoping no one else has a copy. >> >> -H >> > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" Subject: RE: Curtain pipe safety cable Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:42:59 -0500 Keep in mind that removing the bottom pipe also necessitates correcting the weight on the arbor. Steve Waxler Technical Director College Conservatory of Music University of Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:04:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 2/15/05 3:42 PM, Waxler, Steve (waxlers) at WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU wrote: > Keep in mind that removing the bottom pipe also necessitates correcting the > weight on the arbor. Why? Did it do something wrong? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002601c513a2$fc7f2d70$6601a8c0 [at] tamiasuis> From: "Christopher K. Nimm" References:

Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:11:58 -0600 Sorry; I have a small question. What is "west coasting"? Chris Nimm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Wheaton" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:13 PM Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Bill Sapsis wrote: > >> It was the bottom hem that failed. Cyc's do not usually have a separate >> pocket for the pipe. Just a large enough hem to get the pipe in. A >> velour >> drop has a separate chain pocket, or at least a lining in the pocket. > > With all due respect Bill, He did say that half the cyc came down with the > pipe, and that it happened in a scene change. So I would guess that > something snagged the cyc, and being a wrap-around cyc that's no challenge > really, maybe even lifted the cyc a ways before it slipped off the > outgoing pipe and shock-loaded the 15 year old fabric, which then split > and the lower part came down with the bottom pipe still in the pocket. > > Just speculation.... > > Wrap-arounds have bottom pipes that are hard to just toss on the pipe > rack, given their curved nature, but perhaps the best thing would be to > grid the thing after neatly west-coasting it into a protective bag of some > sort? Then the weight would be borne by the bag and the west coasting > slings, and not carried by the fabric at all? > > Most of the goods failures I've seen were from shock loads, on a rotten or > worn curtain. > >> >> I think that the hem started to rot away and could not support the weight >> of >> the pipe. > > Stuart > ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:26:07 -0500 From: "Jeffrey Kanyuck" Subject: Projector search Hello everyone, I'm looking for a video projector that will shoot SXGA and am wanting some feedback. I've found online a website www.projectorcentral.com and have been looking through it. Apparently there isn't a lot out there for brightness in the SXGA area without spending some really high dollars. Anyone have an opinion? We're shooting from a distance of 33-88' away to create an image of approx 400" diagonally. Jeff Kanyuck ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:23:57 -0500 I am sure others can describe this better but take for example a 30' wide backdrop. Space 6 people out evenly below the drop and lower the drop into the arms of the stagehands. Then untie every 6th tie from the batten and loosely retie it under the drop as to keep it bunched together (resembling a line of linked sausages) then either refly the batten or untie the remaining ties and drop into a hamper or bag. Is that clear as mud or what? Can anyone help me here. > Sorry; I have a small question. What is "west coasting"? ------------------------------ From: "Jon Lagerquist" Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:37:22 -0800 Subject: Re: Projector search Reply-to: jon [at] lagerquist.com Message-ID: <4211FB12.8528.6C1A51 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: I have a Sanyo 4100 that puts out 4100 lumens and with the right lens and projection surface does fine with that size of image. Navitar (Buhl) makes a range of lenses and has good information on their website. Of course it can not compete with a full front light wash. > We're shooting from a distance of 33-88' away to create an image of > approx 400" diagonally. Jon Lagerquist Technical Director [at] South Coast Repertory Costa Mesa, CA ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <7984c50c5f65e0cdffda65424009dd4c [at] mac.com> From: David Wetmore Subject: Re: Herrick's photo Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:37:16 -0800 If your going to Manila you should learn a key phrase. I might not spell this correctly but phonically. BILL IS SA MO! It means hurry up in Tagalog. I work with a lot of Filipinos on crews ships and yes if they do show up ontime, what ever the call time is, is when they show up. 8 am they show up around 8 am and I don't mean anytime before 8 am. the concept of showing up 15 minutes before any call time, they don't seem to understand. Don't get me wrong, they are very hard workers. The fact that they don't show up ontime might just be because they already got the work done without you. If you tell them we need to get A and B done today and C and D tomorrow. they will stay late and get C done without you knowing and come in late the next day because of it. On Feb 15, 2005, at 12:28 PM, Herrick Goldman wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > You should see me on a bad day. ;) > > I'm about to go to Manila and have been told to expect crew to saunter > in > sometimes 3 hours late. I'm an "early is on time, on time is late > kinda guy" > > I'm getting a T-shirt made that says: > "Firedance (the name of the show) SERENITY NOW!!!" > > As long as there is a bar nearby it will all be ok. > > :) > > -H > > > > > > On 2/15/05 3:02 PM, "Joe Golden" wrote: > >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> That's a great image, you whacking someone ;) >> >> Joe >> . >>> >>> My Sicilian/attorney/wife loves that photo. She has it on her >>> desk and claims it looks like I just whacked someone. >>> >>> Slinking away now hoping no one else has a copy. >>> >>> -H >>> >> > > -- > Herrick Goldman > Lighting Designer, NYC > www.HGLightingDesign.com > 917-797-3624 > "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness > and in > light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:41:27 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Projector search Message-id: <42126C87.6AA9389A [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Jon Lagerquist wrote: > > We're shooting from a distance of 33-88' away to create an image of > > approx 400" diagonally. That's a hell of a range in your throw distance. Our Sharp XG-P25X does what you ask on the 33' end of the throw (native lens can do a 300" diagonal at 37-48 Ft.) at 4000 lumens. Cost is just under $5k with the default lens. I've been pretty happy with it. Steve Litterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:49:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Herrick's photo From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Thanks David! I look forward to having "C" done before I get in. :) Hopefully I get that far. Oddly your tagalog phrase looks similar to Bellisimo if you speak quickly like a New Yorker. I wonder if it will have the proper effect. On 2/15/05 4:37 PM, "David Wetmore" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > If your going to Manila you should learn a key phrase. I might not > spell this correctly but phonically. BILL IS SA MO! It means hurry up > in Tagalog. > > I work with a lot of Filipinos on crews ships and yes if they do show > up ontime, what ever the call time is, is when they show up. 8 am they > show up around 8 am and I don't mean anytime before 8 am. the concept > of showing up 15 minutes before any call time, they don't seem to > understand. Don't get me wrong, they are very hard workers. The fact > that they don't show up ontime might just be because they already got > the work done without you. If you tell them we need to get A and B > done today and C and D tomorrow. they will stay late and get C done > without you knowing and come in late the next day because of it. > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" Subject: RE: Curtain pipe safety cable Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:05:30 -0500 Actually, that is a description of "furling" as they do with a sail. Quoting form THEATER BACKSTAGE FROM A TO Z, by Warren C. Lounsbury, "West coasting - lowering flown draperies or legs directly from the pipe batten into a drapery bag [or hamper]". From Webster's College Dictionary, "Furling -to gather into a roll and bind securely, as a sail against a spar or a flag against its staff. Steve Waxler Technical Director College Conservatory of Music University of Cincinnati -----Original Message----- From: Greg Bierly [mailto:gbierly [at] dejazzd.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:24 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I am sure others can describe this better but take for example a 30' wide backdrop. Space 6 people out evenly below the drop and lower the drop into the arms of the stagehands. Then untie every 6th tie from the batten and loosely retie it under the drop as to keep it bunched together (resembling a line of linked sausages) then either refly the batten or untie the remaining ties and drop into a hamper or bag. Is that clear as mud or what? Can anyone help me here. > Sorry; I have a small question. What is "west coasting"? ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Curtain pipe safety cable Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:29:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: "jknipple" I've always understood West Coasting to be what Greg said, although we usually don't use the tieline from the drop. We use bungees. Jim James Knipple =20 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 ______________________________________________________ Actually, that is a description of "furling" as they do with a sail. =20 Quoting form THEATER BACKSTAGE FROM A TO Z, by Warren C. Lounsbury, "West coasting - lowering flown draperies or legs directly from the pipe batten into a drapery bag [or hamper]". =20 From Webster's College Dictionary, "Furling -to gather into a roll and bind securely, as a sail against a spar or a flag against its staff. --------------------------------------------------- I am sure others can describe this better but take for example a 30'=20 wide backdrop. Space 6 people out evenly below the drop and lower the=20 drop into the arms of the stagehands. Then untie every 6th tie from=20 the batten and loosely retie it under the drop as to keep it bunched=20 together (resembling a line of linked sausages) then either refly the=20 batten or untie the remaining ties and drop into a hamper or bag. Is that clear as mud or what? Can anyone help me here. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:54:25 EST Subject: Re: ETC board In a message dated 15/02/05 18:48:52 GMT Standard Time, adam [at] fitchtech.net writes: > That's actually exactly how I was taught. I went to work for a theatre > while I was in high school and they use a 48/96. For the most part they > said "here's the manual, have fun" and for a while I complained and > begged for instruction but due to lack of time that wasn't really an > option. Forcing me to look it up and learn it on my own caused me to > retain the information better and if I didn't remember it I knew where > to go if I had the same problem. By the time I left I had learned how to > use the board as good as and at times better than my manager - and I'm a > sound guy... The knobs and knockers on all the ETC boards I have met are self-explanatory, as a rule. The mechanics of recording a cue or a sub are much the same on all of them, and there are screen prompts which come up which tell you what to do next. OK, if you want to do complicated things, you have to look them up in the manual. But the sequence: cue; number; record; enter will solve most problems. The sequence: time; numbers; downtime; numbers, usually works. Putting in wait times needs you to consult the manual. They are also capable of doing tricky and complicated cues. What you need here is an awareness of what they can do: then you need the manual to find out how to do them. The first, you may get from a training session: for the latter, you're on your own. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42128BC1.3010502 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:54:41 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable References: Steve, Oh,Rats. OK, will do. I was hoping to test the working limits of the rope lock without a sunday as a means of holding an out of balance lineset. ;) THIS IS PERVERSE HUMOR! DON'T ACTUALLY DO THIS. Thanks Steve, Best, Steve Waxler, Steve (waxlers) wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Keep in mind that removing the bottom pipe also necessitates correcting the > weight on the arbor. > > Steve Waxler > Technical Director > College Conservatory of Music > University of Cincinnati > ------------------------------ From: "Jon Lagerquist" Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:32:05 -0800 Subject: Re: Projector search Reply-to: jon [at] lagerquist.com Message-ID: <42122405.2847.10C1073 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: I bet it could be a typo on Jeff's part, but is still very possible. > That's a hell of a range in your throw distance. For the 400" (diagonal I assumed) image with the range of lenses that are available for my projector - since I have that information on hand - the throw is shown below. Double lines without a break are zoom lenses. These range is F number from 2.8 to 4.0 so there is some drop off in the longer ones but not terrible. Focal Length Throw 1 25' 7" 1.2 30' 9" 1.28 32' 9" 1.8 46' 1" 2.75 70' 6" 5 128' 2" 5.2 133' 4" 8.7 223' 0" 6 153' 10" 9 230' 9" 7.38 189' 2" 12.3 315' 4" Jon Jon Lagerquist Technical Director [at] South Coast Repertory Costa Mesa, CA ------------------------------ Subject: Re:New Lighting System Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:39:28 -0500 on 2/14 John wrote: Message-ID: <000301c51232$67e93a50$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: New Lighting System Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:13:35 -0800 > Shouldn't the vendor be providing some help? At least a warning about the > little pins from the power supply? Seems like just dumping a console at a > high-school could eventually land ETC with some warranty issues. That's why ETC has a dealer network - it's the dealer's responsibility. Oh, and those silly micro-pin power supplies - they've replaced them with beefier connectors - instead of S-videoo-like connections, it's now a MIDI-like connection. Yay for ETC. (When it was the mini-pins, a dealer nearly charged me $90 to get a new power supply from ETC, until I was smart and checked online and found it's the same as some laptop power supplies, and only cost me $23 to replace.) -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org John, That was exactly my point: Why wasn't the dealer providing support? ETC is pretty good at making things right but they aren't mind readers. I know of some local installations where ETC consoles were purchased but once the equipment was fired up the dealer split. I think there's even a few bootleg ETC installations around this part of the world. Well it is Florida. Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ********** E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act. ********** ------------------------------ Message-ID: <04cc01c513ed$56ccdad0$6501a8c0 [at] chris> From: "Chris Warner" Subject: Speia Tone Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:04:13 -0800 To those lighting designers that have probably a bit more experience with this than I do. I am looking to wash a set with a similar color tone that is seen with a sepia tone photograph or a speia tone film. I am considering R05, R16 any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Chris Warner Working - '05 West Hills High School, Santee, Ca. Evening of One Acts - '05 Grossmont Community College, El Cajon, Ca. Godspell - '05 OnStage Playhouse, Chula Vista, Ca -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #297 *****************************