Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 19364797; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 03:01:10 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #303 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 03:00:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #303 1. Platfom Legging systems? by Al Fitch 2. Re: Third appendage by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" 3. Re: Platfom Legging systems? by Stuart Wheaton 4. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by "Nigel Worsley" 5. Pilling the Cat - OT by "Stephen E. Rees" 6. Re: Platfom Legging systems? by "Stephen E. Rees" 7. Gaffers Tape as C-Clamp?? by "Kacey Fisher" 8. Re: Gaffers Tape as C-Clamp?? by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 9. Re: Gaffers Tape as C-Clamp?? by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 10. USITT Stage Expo Passes by "Brian Jeffrey" 11. Re: Gaffers Tape as C-Clamp?? by David Marks 12. Re: Platfom Legging systems? by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" 13. Re: Pilling the Cat - OT by Boyd Ostroff 14. Re: Pilling the Cat - OT by gregg hillmar 15. Re: Platfom Legging systems? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 16. Downloadable Sound Cues by "J Isherwood" 17. Re: Third appendage by Stuart Wheaton 18. Re: OT: Dogs backstage, was Pilling the Cat - by John McKernon 19. Re: another bad day at the theatre by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com 20. Re: OT: Dogs backstage, was Pilling the Cat - by Bill Sapsis 21. Re: Theatre Cats by "Michael Denison" 22. Re: Theatre Cats by "Jon Ares" 23. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable by Barney Simon 24. Re: Pilling the Cat - OT by "Curt Mortimore" 25. Re: OT: Dogs backstage, was Pilling the Cat - by IAEG [at] aol.com 26. Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! by "Alf Sauve" 27. Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! by IAEG [at] aol.com 28. Re: Gaffers Tape as C-Clamp?? by "Kacey Fisher" 29. Re: Theatre Cats by Pat Kight 30. Re: Theatre Cats by "Christopher K. Nimm" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <20050220131436.31825.qmail [at] web51408.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 05:14:35 -0800 (PST) From: Al Fitch Subject: Platfom Legging systems? In-Reply-To: I have been wondering about legging systems for platforms. The topic came up last week here so I was reminded of this resource. I use 1X6 in an L configuration to leg the 1X platforms I build. Where can I go to learn about all the legging possibilities and how they work/why they work? Is drilling and attaching with carriage bolts a thing of the past? I screw the legs in then cross brace them with more 1x. Al Fitch ===== Be Kind, Smile and Have Fun. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" Subject: RE: Third appendage Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:37:16 -0500 Mine eats the coating and spits out the pill. Steve Waxler Technical Director College Conservatory of Music University of Cincinnati > I just coat the thing in a meat flavored baby food (my cat prefers turkey) and pop it in. No problem. Joshua G. Webb Designer/Technical Director Worcester Academy 81 Providence St. Worcester, MA 01604 508.754.5302 x174 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4218AD08.90700 [at] fuse.net> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 10:30:16 -0500 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: Platfom Legging systems? References: In-Reply-To: Al Fitch wrote: > Is drilling and attaching with carriage bolts a thing > of the past? It certainly should be. Carriage bolts are the dumbest fastener ever dragged into theatres and misused. They don't have a flat top, but they don't have a means to grip the non-flat top to keep it from spinning, the square under the non-flat top will gnaw the hole into hugeness if the bolt spins, and if you want to use them properly in wood you have to stock, sort, and use torque washers. Any task you can perform with a carriage bolt can be done better with either a flat head machine screw or a hex head bolt, depending on the circumstance. Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <122001c51764$b0fa0170$0c00a8c0 [at] Nigellaptop> From: "Nigel Worsley" References: Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 15:56:07 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 19/02/05 19:28:52 GMT Standard Time, nimmck [at] charter.net > writes: > > > > > Where is this 'photobucket' of which you wrote? I'd really like to see > the > > picture. > > I don't remember the exact address. Google may help, as may the stagecraft > archive. Photobucket is here: http://www.photobucket.com/ Frank's photo album is here: http://photobucket.com/albums/v79/frankwood/ And I think this is the photo he is referring to: http://photobucket.com/albums/v79/frankwood/?action=view¤t=builder.jpg But I think this one is a better example: http://photobucket.com/albums/v79/frankwood/?action=view¤t=3f4226da.jpg Or this one from the Questors site: http://www.questors.org.uk/onstage/gall/gall04/Dream/Dream%20002.jpg Nigel Worsley ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4218B590.8060608 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:06:40 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Pilling the Cat - OT References:

My wife and I have used this process for years with our hoard of felines. The cat will instinctively lick its nose after you follow Jeff's procedure. When it does that, you know the pill is gone. Our vet recommended this same method. Steve Rees, TD and Cat Lover SUNY-Fredonia Jeff Forbes wrote: However, I stumbled on this > technique, which works like a charm. [snip] > > Jeff A Forbes > PMB 124 6820 SE Foster Rd > Portland OR 97206 > (503)-888-5619 > www.performanceworksnw.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4218BA8A.2070509 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:27:54 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Platfom Legging systems? References: Al, I don't think any process really goes out of style although I have not bolted legs accept maybe twice in 20 years and never recommend the process. I loathe the hassle of buying bolts and nuts and washers, boring holes, tightening all the nuts, trying to salvage used hardware and wasting time sorting for those that aren't stripped or otherwise buggered. Way too tool intensive. I am a big devotee of Compression Legs either nailed or screwed and then diag braced if nec. related to height. I like how it leaves an entire surface in the same plane for facing attachment or applying other stuff to the face of the plat. I also use your system or "Hog Troughs" as we know them here where they are appropriate. I also like stacked blue foam a lot as well, especially with stress skins. Each new show brings different needs. Given some budget constraints here at the moment, I have had to mix new and stock platforming in the same decking setup. Right now on stage I have 3/4 ply on 2x4 frames sitting on blue foam to a finish height of 8.25 inches, stress skins on blue foam finished to 16.125 inches, and custom, non-stock, one-time use 2 x4 framed plats on 2x4 compression legs adjacent to the stress skins. Kind of like finding the right solution for the right problem for this specific show. Might be different next time and I'll adapt for those circumstances as necessary. Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia Al Fitch wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I have been wondering about legging systems for > platforms. The topic came up last week here so I was > reminded of this resource. ------------------------------ From: "Kacey Fisher" Subject: Gaffers Tape as C-Clamp?? Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:34:12 -0500 Message-ID: Just a little chuckle today, I got my Pro Tapes swatch book. Under the Pro-Gaffer's section it has a list of applications such as: stage blocking and spiking, audio wire hold down, & bookbinding. All suitable uses for gaff tape. However, the very first one on the list is "Securing and Holding Overhead Lighting" Ummm...wouldn't want to be standing under THAT light. ~Kacey Fisher ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:17:24 GMT Subject: Re: Gaffers Tape as C-Clamp?? Message-Id: <20050220.101823.15866.124596 [at] webmail12.lax.untd.com> The ORIGINAL specification for Gaffer's Tape was developed when 3M asked IA gaffers in Hollywood "What should a new type of tape be capable of doing, for you to buy it, or recommend it's purchase?" That answer was: It must be able to safely support a 'Deuce' (a 2K Fresnel) to a vertical non-porous or semi-porous surface. The original 3M product did exactly that. Really. /s/ Richard Just a little chuckle today, I got my Pro Tapes swatch book. Under the Pro-Gaffer's section it has a list of applications such as: stage blocking and spiking, audio wire hold down, & bookbinding. All suitable uses for gaff tape. However, the very first one on the list is "Securing and Holding Overhead Lighting" Ummm...wouldn't want to be standing under THAT light. ~Kacey Fisher ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Gaffers Tape as C-Clamp?? Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:19:30 -0500 Message-ID: <018101c51778$bbcb89c0$6401a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Just a little chuckle today, I got my Pro Tapes swatch book. > Under the Pro-Gaffer's section it has a list of applications > such as: stage blocking and spiking, audio wire hold down, & > bookbinding. All suitable uses for gaff tape. However, the > very first one on the list is "Securing and Holding Overhead > Lighting" Ummm...wouldn't want to be standing under THAT light. I agree, yet, as I understand it, that was one of the reasons Jim Lowell had for inventing it. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000701c51786$2ab7eb00$0200a8c0 [at] DESKTOP> From: "Brian Jeffrey" References: Subject: USITT Stage Expo Passes Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:55:44 -0500 Not sure if anyone can use them, but I have 10-12 free passes for next months (3/17-3/19) USITT Stage Expo at Metro Toronto Convention Centre. Sorry, but they're only good for the trade show floor and not the various sessions. If you can use some, just email me your address off list and I'll gladly mail them off to you. Regards, The Thermoman of Dazian Brian Jeffrey www.dazian.com b.jeffrey [at] comcast.net ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4218EFB4.6030400 [at] att.net> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 15:14:44 -0500 From: David Marks Subject: Re: Gaffers Tape as C-Clamp?? References: In-Reply-To: Kacey Fisher wrote: >However, the very first one on the list is "Securing and Holding >Overhead Lighting" > Watch almost any episode of "Monster House" on the Discovery Channel. They routinely use mass quantities of gaffers tape to mount fluorescent lights (Kino, Lowell) to the ceilngs, as do most of the reality shows. You can see it in the wide shots once in a while. Dave Marks ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" Subject: RE: Platfom Legging systems? Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 16:55:33 -0500 AMEN! Steve Waxler Technical Director College Conservatory of Music University of Cincinnati -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Wheaton [mailto:sdwheaton [at] fuse.net] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 10:30 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Platfom Legging systems? For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Al Fitch wrote: > Is drilling and attaching with carriage bolts a thing > of the past? It certainly should be. Carriage bolts are the dumbest fastener ever dragged into theatres and misused. They don't have a flat top, but they don't have a means to grip the non-flat top to keep it from spinning, the square under the non-flat top will gnaw the hole into hugeness if the bolt spins, and if you want to use them properly in wood you have to stock, sort, and use torque washers. Any task you can perform with a carriage bolt can be done better with either a flat head machine screw or a hex head bolt, depending on the circumstance. Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:09:02 -0500 (EST) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Pilling the Cat - OT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow, talk about off-topic! I didn't see the original post, but I do have some expertise here. I have an old cat that gets pills every couple days... forever, and recently lost another old cat. I have a sure-fire way to painlessly and quickly give pills. Tip their head back and open their mouth. This is done with one hand, use the thumb and index finger to pry the mouth open. The cat should be looking straight up. Now just go "bombs away" with the pill and drop it so it goes dead center at the rear of their mouth. They swallow immediately with no resistance. If you have to give them pills regularly they quickly learn to cooperate. My old cat has gotten to the point that he really doesn't mind since he knows exactly what to expect. Man, I can't believe I'm sending this to the stagecraft list, but maybe it will help somebody out... | Boyd Ostroff | Director of Design and Technology | Opera Company of Philadelphia | http://tech.operaphilly.com | ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <723dcba7fe10627737bbcc28d1aee834 [at] hillmardesign.com> From: gregg hillmar Subject: Re: Pilling the Cat - OT Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:30:54 -0500 Ah, but the number of us with cats is probably high! I happen to have four of them and would gladly have more. One often heard of the theatre cat. Mentioned in CATS, of course, but they were often present in many theatres I worked in over the years. Far more accepted than dogs... Off topic, yes, but still of interest to us theatre folks. Call it "watercooler conversation!" g. _____________________ gregg hillmar scenic & lighting design portfolio & life as we know it: http://www.hillmardesign.com "Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching." Satchel Paige On Feb 20, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Boyd Ostroff wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Wow, talk about off-topic! I didn't see the original post, but I do > have > some expertise here. I have an old cat that gets pills every couple > days... forever, and recently lost another old cat. I have a sure-fire > way > to painlessly and quickly give pills. > > Tip their head back and open their mouth. This is done with one hand, > use > the thumb and index finger to pry the mouth open. The cat should be > looking straight up. Now just go "bombs away" with the pill and drop > it so > it goes dead center at the rear of their mouth. They swallow > immediately > with no resistance. If you have to give them pills regularly they > quickly > learn to cooperate. My old cat has gotten to the point that he really > doesn't mind since he knows exactly what to expect. > > Man, I can't believe I'm sending this to the stagecraft list, but > maybe it > will help somebody out... > > | Boyd Ostroff > | Director of Design and Technology > | Opera Company of Philadelphia > | http://tech.operaphilly.com > | ostroff [at] operaphilly.com > ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:54:55 EST Subject: Re: Platfom Legging systems? In a message dated 20/02/05 21:56:20 GMT Standard Time, WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU writes: > AMEN! And again amen. This is the coach bolts thread. I have a book on restoring vintage cars, from the days when car bodies were framed in wood. Coach bolts were often used. They were fine when the wood was new and firm. As old age took its toll, the wood softened, and unfastening them was the very devil. This was before the days of angle grinders, which allow you to cut a slot for a screwdriver in the head. What the two engineers who wrote this suggest is to use hex headed bolts, bearing on steel plates let into the wooden members. These screw into metal dowels perpendicular to the bolt, and suitably tapped. This seems to be a much more secure fastening. Yes, it's a lot more trouble, but for structures which need to be dismantled and re-assembled from time to time, I think it would be well worth while. It's similar to the way flat packs are put together, but a good deal stronger, and stiffer. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <010b01c517a0$e14fb270$531b1818 [at] ishkababble> From: "J Isherwood" Subject: Downloadable Sound Cues Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:06:58 -0500 This might be a silly question, but does anyone know of a source for downloading a list of sounds ques for shows? Here's the scenario: Need an emergency replacement of the sound guy for a show. Not a lot of time to replace him, and figure out the neccissary ques, then build the sounds and get them ready for the upcoming double-tech rehersal. Is there a site or somethign where I might find the Sound cues written up for Agatha Christie's Mousetrap? I have a decent library, but no script yet, and little time to sit down and work this up... Thanks in advanced for any help you can send my way... Jeffrey Isherwood Rome Community Theater (RCT) http://www.romecommunitytheater.com "Where Everyone is a Star!" ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42191E4A.6030303 [at] fuse.net> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:33:30 -0500 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: Third appendage References:

In-Reply-To: Joshua Webb wrote: > I just coat the thing in a meat flavored baby food (my cat prefers turkey) > and pop it in. No problem. > Or my danger free method, Dump pill in bowl, add a bit of the juice out of the cat food can, mash pill with fork and stir until dissolved, put down bowl, watch kitty slurp up juice/pill, re-fill with rest of food from can. No holes, no fuss, and cat is ultra compliant! For Jim D. My totally chicken cat is named 'Nessus' Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:28:57 -0500 Subject: Re: OT: Dogs backstage, was Pilling the Cat - From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > One often heard of the theatre cat. Mentioned in CATS, of course, but > they were often present in many theatres I worked in over the years. > Far more accepted than dogs... Dogs are actually an accepted part of the backstage scene at many of the Broadway theaters - I've taken Dylan (one of our Corgis) to rehearsals at probably a dozen of them, and he's always had a ball. He sits out at the production table with me (either on top of the table or in a seat next to me), and he watches from the aisle whenever I'm working onstage. The best was when we were doing "Inherit the Wind" at the Royale - the actors noticed that he was watching the show (which he frequently does), so I told them that yes, he watches the show unless it's boring, in which case he sleeps. Of course, being a dog, he did eventually decide he'd seen enough and conked out, much to the panic of certain actors... The only case I've heard of a dog being banned from backstage here was when a friend's dog chewed through the dressing room furniture, and that was after it had been to every performance of "Phantom" for at least a year. The rest of the dogs there are still welcome, but not that one. Of course, many universities and regional theaters are less accepting, to their detriment...;) - John ------------------------------ From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Message-ID: <6d.3f5f638b.2f4a7944 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:37:40 EST Subject: Re: another bad day at the theatre >It=E2=80=99s a religiously affiliated school, ..... The kid >playing Sir Toby in 12th Night gets expelled from >school..... =20 It is very tough producing anything in a religiously affiliated school. (I won't even get started on the censorship thread.) =20 One year I lost an actress playing a key roll in The Comedy of Errors=20 due to an expulsion over some infraction one week before opening. All of our pleas to "delay" the punishment fell on deaf ears.=20 The administration had no sympathies whatsoever for the plight of all those whose hard work was in jeopardy of being for naught. =20 The student assistant director jumped into the role, at some=20 personal upset of life balance, to save the production. =20 Yes, I'm a bit behind in reading the list....So many postings and so little= =20 time =20 to read them these days. =20 =20 Still seeking life balance, SteveV Orl, FL =20 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:59:17 -0500 Subject: Re: OT: Dogs backstage, was Pilling the Cat - From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 2/20/05 6:28 PM, John McKernon at stagecraft2004 [at] mckernon.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Dogs are actually an accepted part of the backstage scene at many of the > Broadway theaters - I've taken Dylan (one of our Corgis) to rehearsals at > probably a dozen of them, and he's always had a ball. He sits out at the > production table with me (either on top of the table or in a seat next to > me), and he watches from the aisle whenever I'm working onstage. The best > was when we were doing "Inherit the Wind" at the Royale - the actors noticed > that he was watching the show (which he frequently does), so I told them > that yes, he watches the show unless it's boring, in which case he sleeps. > Of course, being a dog, he did eventually decide he'd seen enough and conked > out, much to the panic of certain actors... > > The only case I've heard of a dog being banned from backstage here was when > a friend's dog chewed through the dressing room furniture, and that was > after it had been to every performance of "Phantom" for at least a year. The > rest of the dogs there are still welcome, but not that one. > > Of course, many universities and regional theaters are less accepting, to > their detriment...;) > > - John > Over the years I have had several dogs attend my seminars with their owners. They always get a certificate. Don't recall any cats though. Bill S. (2 cats. 1 dog. the guinea pig died) www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4218D58F.8282.2577A6C4 [at] localhost> From: "Michael Denison" Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:23:11 -0600 Subject: Re: Theatre Cats Reply-To: In-Reply-To: References: Some where in my piles of research material is an article by a theatre architect who had it in his contract that the theatre had to install a theatre cat before opening. To keep down backstage vermin one supposes. He said that he'd done this in over 100 theatres. > One often heard of the theatre cat. Michael A. Denison Technical Director Cottey College 1000 West Austin Nevada, MO 64772 (417) 667-8181 x 2265 FAX: (417) 667-8103 mdenison [at] cottey.edu www.cottey.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003801c517ae$5d88ec50$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Theatre Cats Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 16:43:31 -0800 > Some where in my piles of research material is an article by a > theatre architect who had it in his contract that the theatre had to > install a theatre cat before opening. To keep down backstage > vermin one supposes. A local theatre (that no longer exists) used to have a theatre cat. In their black box space they did a show with a set that was a deck at a beach house (can't remember the name of the show) -- used real sand around/under the deck. They had a devil of a time keeping the theatre cat out of that space for the duration of the show - kept using the sand set as his personal "litter box." -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42193183.6080305 [at] JosephCHansen.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:55:31 -0500 From: Barney Simon Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable References: In-Reply-To: Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson wrote: >the JFK Center in Wash, where the pipe ripped during the rehearsal....during the actual performance it ripped again, and the pipe nearly took off a shoulder and arm... > > As I recall the story from my former life with my former employer (a defendant in the legal battles over this accident), the start of THAT problem was that the scene shop had cut a doorway or other portal THROUGH the bottom of the drop, violating the integrity of the hem, the pocket, and the stitching. The mentioned gaffers tape 'fix' was of this intentional 'rip' of the pocket. While I agree with your next post that a canvas pocket within the hem seems safer (I'm not convinced that it is) It would NOT have helped in this story. Barney Simon J.C. Hansen Co. Drapes, Drops, and Dance Floors ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Pilling the Cat - OT Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:05:04 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Curt Mortimore" All, My sister is a Veterinary assistant. Her recommendation, which I have found very effective, is exactly the process Boyd describes. If you are still having difficulty, place the poor victim on some smooth surface, countertop, table, hardwood floor, etc. At the vet clinic they use a stainless steel table. This provides almost no traction for the cat's pointy parts thus minimizing the amount of wrestling and time the process takes. Also, looking for the "nose lick" is very good advice. All the best. Curtis L. Mortimore Graceland University 1 University Place Lamoni, IA 50140 (641) 784-5265 ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <79.3f904b5e.2f4a9b87 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 21:03:51 EST Subject: Re: OT: Dogs backstage, was Pilling the Cat - In a message dated 2/20/05 6:57:21 PM, bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com writes: > the guinea pig died we are mourning, , , , k ------------------------------ Message-ID: <09ab01c517c3$73eb9e10$0400a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" Subject: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:13:09 -0500 A bad day on the lift. Basically, this is a large church sanctuary (1,500) I've worked here just over a year. The stain glass windows are each lit from the inside with two 50degree ETC S4 Jrs lamped with 575W/115's. (don't even start me on how wrong this choice of fixture was in the first place....another battle another time.) One Jr had been out since I've been here but getting to it was almost impossible. Thursday, figured a way to safely position the legs of the lift and reach this light. What did I find? The lamp was okay, but.... http://sauve.org/plug.htm SO? [pirate voice] What's in your grid? [/pirate voice] Alf ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <127.5648242e.2f4aadea [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:22:18 EST Subject: Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! In a message dated 2/20/05 10:15:36 PM, alf [at] sauve.org writes: > > > http://sauve.org/plug.htm > > > > SO? [pirate voice] What's in your grid? [/pirate voice] > > you say on the web page ( quoting ) If you're really sharp you'll notice that this plate started life as a blank plate. ( end quoting ) looks more like to me it started life as a regular house hold switch plate, not blank, and they used some sort of saw to open the small rectangular hole up to accommodate the twist lock receptacle. I am looking at the light switch for this office a few feet away and the spacing is identical am I missing something here ? ------------------------------ From: "Kacey Fisher" Subject: RE: Gaffers Tape as C-Clamp?? Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:38:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow-Really? I guess I could believe it... I just don't like the idea of standing under an instrument only being held up by tape. But I guess if you use A LOT of it for each instrument... I just have visions of the high schooler using one swatch of tape to hold up their fresnel. I did see a high school once use duct tape to pull up an electric and tape it to the catwalk-maybe 12 pieces of tape (not even wrapped once) along the 40' batten. ~Kacey > > Kacey Fisher wrote: > > >However, the very first one on the list is "Securing and Holding > >Overhead Lighting" > > > > Watch almost any episode of "Monster House" on the Discovery Channel. > They routinely use mass quantities of gaffers tape to mount > fluorescent > lights (Kino, Lowell) > to the ceilngs, as do most of the reality shows. You can see > it in the > wide shots > once in a while. > > Dave Marks ------------------------------ Message-ID: <421981EC.1000209 [at] peak.org> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:38:36 -0800 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Theatre Cats References:

In-Reply-To: Jon Ares wrote: >> Some where in my piles of research material is an article by a >> theatre architect who had it in his contract that the theatre had to >> install a theatre cat before opening. To keep down backstage >> vermin one supposes. > > > > A local theatre (that no longer exists) used to have a theatre cat. In > their black box space they did a show with a set that was a deck at a > beach house (can't remember the name of the show) -- used real sand > around/under the deck. They had a devil of a time keeping the theatre > cat out of that space for the duration of the show - kept using the sand > set as his personal "litter box." The neighborhood around our theater abounds with feral cats - always has. Theater volunteers often take it on themselves to feed the cats, and have sometimes been able to trap them for neutering. These are good things. Sometimes soft-hearted people try to sneak them into the building. Unfortunately, what we've wound up with is not theater cats, but theater fleas... -- Pat Kight Albany (Ore.) Civic Theater kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001401c517e7$3ca92750$6601a8c0 [at] tamiasuis> From: "Christopher K. Nimm" References:

Subject: Re: Theatre Cats Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 01:30:36 -0600 If so many theatres have theatre cats, then there must be a good way to keep said cats inside the theatre. My roommate and I have always joked about the idea of bringing his cat to the theatre during those all-nighters to keep us company, but we're afraid of him walking out through an open loading dock door. If we can't even come up with a way to keep a "visitor" cat inside, how would a contract-bound cat be confined to the premises? (By the way, our cat is named Gobo. As if we weren't dorked out enough) Chris Nimm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Kight" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 12:38 AM Subject: Re: Theatre Cats > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Jon Ares wrote: > > >>> Some where in my piles of research material is an article by a >>> theatre architect who had it in his contract that the theatre had to >>> install a theatre cat before opening. To keep down backstage >>> vermin one supposes. >> >> >> >> A local theatre (that no longer exists) used to have a theatre cat. In >> their black box space they did a show with a set that was a deck at a >> beach house (can't remember the name of the show) -- used real sand >> around/under the deck. They had a devil of a time keeping the theatre >> cat out of that space for the duration of the show - kept using the sand >> set as his personal "litter box." > > The neighborhood around our theater abounds with feral cats - always has. > Theater volunteers often take it on themselves to feed the cats, and have > sometimes been able to trap them for neutering. These are good things. > > Sometimes soft-hearted people try to sneak them into the building. > Unfortunately, what we've wound up with is not theater cats, but theater > fleas... > > -- > Pat Kight > Albany (Ore.) Civic Theater > kightp [at] peak.org > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #303 *****************************