Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 19636568; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:02:03 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #306 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:01:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #306 1. Re: Gerber Multitools by "Paul Guncheon" 2. Re: Theater Cats by IAEG [at] aol.com 3. Re: Strand 2209/2212 ERS's by "Paul Sanow" 4. Re: Star drop rental.... by Barney Simon 5. Re: Peter Foy by "Jack Morones" 6. Re: Gerber Multitools by Mike Brubaker 7. Re: Peter Foy by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 8. Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! by CB 9. Film/Television Production Studio by CB 10. Re: Thrid appendage (slightly OT) by Jerry Durand 11. Re: Thrid appendage (slightly OT) by IAEG [at] aol.com 12. Julia by Bruce Purdy 13. Re: Julia by IAEG [at] aol.com 14. Re: Gerber Multitools by MissWisc [at] aol.com 15. Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 16. Re: Gerber Multitools by Mike Brubaker 17. Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! by Steve Larson 18. Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! by "Steven Haworth" 19. Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 20. Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! by "Joshua Webb" 21. Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 22. Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! by Stephen Litterst 23. Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 24. Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! by IAEG [at] aol.com 25. Re: Pilling the cat by Norman Lazarus 26. cell phone on stage? by "jknipple" 27. Re: cell phone on stage? by IAEG [at] aol.com 28. Re: cell phone on stage? by Boyd Ostroff 29. Re: cell phone on stage? by "jknipple" 30. Re: Gaffers Tape as C-Clamp?? by Jerry Durand 31. Re: cell phone on stage? by "Andy Leviss" 32. Re: cell phone on stage? by IAEG [at] aol.com 33. Re: cell phone on stage? by Stephen Litterst 34. Re: cell phone on stage? by Stephen Litterst 35. Re: cell phone on stage? by "Alf Sauve" 36. Re: Gerber Multitools by Dale Farmer *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 02:51:23 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Gerber Multitools Message-id: <00a001c519a6$61d790f0$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: <> No stores in my area sell the Gerber evolution. The one store that sells the Victorinox Multitool is located in Ala Moana Shopping Center has it priced at $160+. It's trap for Japanese tourists and most probably would not take exchanges unless one included a major body part. Gerber has stopped responding to my emails... sigh, here we go again. Laters, Paul "Ignore the first three left turns," directed Tom forthrightly. ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:20:17 EST Subject: Re: Theater Cats In a message dated 2/23/05 12:41:59 AM, jea00321 [at] yahoo.com writes: >>I would assume that ClearChannel can afford a better >>exterminating service than Sarah Caldwell could! Mr. >>Ehrenberg ? > >>keith > >I can tell you, as a recent tenant of the newly >renovated Boston Opera House, that the restoration is >gorgeous, the backstage is nice, and, um, they still >need a cat. Or six. BIG Cats. They are trying, God >knows - traps and such everywhere. But the rats have >had the run of the joint for 20 years, and they aren't >giving in easily. > > > >===== >June Abernathy >IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL) >FOH Electrician >The Lion King National Tour (Gazelle) Ah June, , what can I say? The more things change, the more they stay the same? 20 years ? naww, they've had the run of that place for a lot longer ! I was there in like '83 I think ? (damn makes me feel old) Great old theatre, except for the irregularly shaped fly house, one side of the stage was much deeper than the other due to the way the alley ran behind the building, I understand that has been remedied (at significant expense) It's always fun to have battens get shorter and shorter, on the stage left side only, as you move upstage. The last couple of battens barely made it to the center line. Then the last two sets were wrap around cyc pipes, strange shape they were! keith ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Strand 2209/2212 ERS's Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:27:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Paul Sanow" > I know, I know these fixtures aren't worth much, a space I am=20 > working on has > 2 that are 10 years old(well the whole strand inventor is 10=20 > years old) that > have contacts that have scrotched so badly that they don't=20 > make contact with > a lamp anymore. Is this common for these fixtures? It is common when the person that installs the lamp is not careful to = insert it all the way into the base. TP22 bases are kind of = unforgiving. If the lamp isn't making good contact you might get the = lamp to light, but you will likely turn the lamp pins and the socket = contacts into charcoal briquettes. Once the contacts are pitted and = burnt you will always get poor contact in that socket. This is anyone's = TP22 socket. So no, it's not uncommon for a 10-year old fixture. It's likely the = unit has had many lamps installed by many hands over the years. Not all = of which understand that proper fit is critical. Also these lights get = bumped/jostled/moved over time. Pro houses usually do better than the = colleges, which do better than (most) high schools. =20 =20 Paul *********************************************************** Paul Sanow psanow [at] vls.com Technical Sales www.vincentlighting.com Vincent Lighting Systems 1420 Jamike Ln. #2 Erlanger, KY 41018 (859) 525-2000 x211 FAX (859) 525-2050 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Message-ID: <421C8FFB.2010005 [at] josephchansen.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:15:23 -0500 From: Barney Simon Subject: Re: Star drop rental.... References: In-Reply-To: David Bowman wrote: >Looking for someone willing to rent a star drop? The TD here has >contacted a few of the "standard" rental houses. > I do not believe that he has called us here. How do I get on people's "standard" list? [Rose Brand rant snipped] We have four, they are 20' high x 22' wide each. Barney Simon JC Hansen Co., NYC Drapes Drops and Dance Floor Since 1917 (and star drops too!) ------------------------------ From: "Jack Morones" Subject: RE: Peter Foy Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:42:47 -0800 Organization: Saddleback College Message-ID: <002501c519c6$b65e75b0$6500a8c0 [at] SCJACKLT> In-Reply-To: Very sad news indeed. Peter was a great man to chat with. He loved to tell stories. Peter's passing is a great loss to the rigging community. I will miss him. -Jack Morones Resident rigging guy... -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of usctd [at] columbia.sc Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:28 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Peter Foy For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- A true legend of the theatre has passed on. Peter Foy died this afternoon in Las Vegas. To show that life is full of unexplainable wierdness.....He was a Daily Double question on Jeopardy this evening. He watched the show every night. It was an honor to have worked with him. -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050223120128.01d85db0 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:08:58 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Gerber Multitools In-Reply-To: References:

Paul, I say aim high. Jim Purdin President/CEO Fiskars Brands, Inc. 2537 Daniels St. Madison, WI 53718 Phone: 608-259-1649 Fax: 608-294-4790 Fiskars Brands "manages the operations for all of Fiskars consumer products in the US and Europe. Product lines include cutting and kitchen tools (Fiskars, Gerber, Montana, Kaimano, and Kitchen Devils), gardening tools and supplies (Wilkenson Sword, Planterra, Ebert, and Syroco), and other household products (Power Sentry and Newpoint). Fiskars Brands has acquired the family-owned scissor and shear maker Gingher." (Hoovers.com) And if that doesn't work, aim higher: Goran J. Ehrnooth Chairman Heikki Allonen President and CEO Fiskars Corporation Mannerheimintie 14A FIN-00101 Helsinki, Finland Phone: +358-9-618-861 Fax: +358-9-604-053 http://www.fiskars.fi Have fun. Write them a letter--I'll bet you don't get blown off. Mention the rather public discussion of your customer service experience, and how many of us listen to those kind of stories... Mike Brubaker At 07:51 AM 2/23/2005, Paul Guncheon wrote: >Gerber has stopped responding to my emails... sigh, here we go again. ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Peter Foy Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:09:22 -0800 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am sure that in this new venue for Peter that he is rigging some mighty wonderful flying systems ... perhaps at some time in the future, we will be the recipient of them. Doom -- Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. - www.riskit.com Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jack Morones Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:43 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Peter Foy For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Very sad news indeed. Peter was a great man to chat with. He loved to tell stories. Peter's passing is a great loss to the rigging community. I will miss him. -Jack Morones Resident rigging guy... -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of usctd [at] columbia.sc Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:28 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Peter Foy For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- A true legend of the theatre has passed on. Peter Foy died this afternoon in Las Vegas. To show that life is full of unexplainable wierdness.....He was a Daily Double question on Jeopardy this evening. He watched the show every night. It was an honor to have worked with him. -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050223113535.016d9660 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:35:35 From: CB Subject: RE: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! >And FWIW, all the "locking" stage pin connectors I've seen have >eventually had the locking mechanism fail (most likely due to the fact >no one knew they were locking types). When that happens, it tends to be >bad...which has colored my world view enough that when I read this >suggestion I screamed "Aiieeeee!". I was thinking something simple (read: 'legtrician-proof) like a spring steel strap/clip thingie... Hmmmm... let's see if I can do some aascii art... _____________________________ 0_____________ _____________ 1 l l-l l 1 l_____________l-l____________l 1 With the two lower rectangular pieces being the two connectors, and the '0' being a hinge type thing, and the top row of dashes being a small spring-steel strap that bends at a 90 (the '1's) to capture the back of the other connector. This would be on the female, and a wall-mounted female would have it on each wall mount. These would be easily identified as 'locked', compatible with touring or rental 2PG, and even the newest newbie could get it. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050223114650.016d9660 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:46:50 From: CB Subject: Film/Television Production Studio >Could anyone steer me towards any reference material, preferably books, >that would help me understand more fully what such an endeavor would >require in terms of facility? The facility that I helped design and build in the nineties is a good example of what can be done without a network budget and limited, multi-use space. Most of what I did has been updated, but the basic design is still there. I'd contact Public Access spaces and college spaces that already exist, and have the instructors and contractors take a bit of a junket. If you make it to Access Tucson, I'd be happy to go with you to show what is still there (and therefore stood the test of time) from my original design. Make sure that you get to speak to folk that use and maintain the space, not just those that administrate. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050223111358.02969150 [at] localhost> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:15:21 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Thrid appendage (slightly OT) In-Reply-To: References:

At 09:08 AM 2/16/2005, you wrote: >The other thing I'd do is remove the pinky finger of each hand and >replace it with a reversible 1/4" square drive on one side and 3/8" >drive on the other. I've often wanted an eye on the end of a finger (with a heavy, protective cover). Might as well add a chemical light source to another finger to complete the package. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <30.6cea7a96.2f4e30c9 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:17:29 EST Subject: Re: Thrid appendage (slightly OT) In a message dated 2/23/05 2:16:28 PM, jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes: >At 09:08 AM 2/16/2005, you wrote: >>The other thing I'd do is remove the pinky finger of each hand and >>replace it with a reversible 1/4" square drive on one side and 3/8" >>drive on the other. > >I've often wanted an eye on the end of a finger (with a heavy, protective > >cover). Might as well add a chemical light source to another finger to > >complete the package. > > When you wish upon a star ! ! ! ! ! Makes no difference, ,, etc etc blah blah woof woof, , , k ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:35:45 -0500 Subject: Julia From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: This past weekend, I screened the film "Being Julia", starring Annette Bening. If you are a theatre person (And who here is not?) I think you'll love this movie. Wickedly funny in parts, it is set in the Theatre world of 1938 London. One minor scene caught my attention and raised my curiosity. In the opening scene - after she delivers the final line of the play - the actors freeze in a tableau with a lighting change. They hold the pose as the house lights come up, and THEN the curtain falls. I've never seen it done thus - the house lights always wait 'till after the final curtain calls. I had a few theories: 1] This was done in London in that era (the late '30s) 2] It's a "London thing" - and I'm thinking "American style" 3] It was simply an unusual artistic choice made by the film makers. Any insight out there to help settle this for me? Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <143.3fd31296.2f4e43a4 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:37:56 EST Subject: Re: Julia In a message dated 2/23/05 3:36:54 PM, bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com writes: >3] It was simply an unusual artistic choice made by the film makers. i'd bet that is what it was, , , keith ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <19a.2ef01b50.2f4e4440 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:40:32 EST Subject: Re: Gerber Multitools In a message dated 2/23/5 11:10:57 AM, mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com writes: << Jim Purdin President/CEO Fiskars Brands, Inc. 2537 Daniels St. Madison, WI 53718 Phone: 608-259-1649 Fax: 608-294-4790 >> I like how you think, Mike! We've got list members in Madison and for the right price, I'll make the trip in person. Kristi ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:56:11 -0500 IIRC the 2 p & g with the little locking clip was called the: "Harj Lock", seemed like a good idea but I haven't seen any in years. If you've got a pin splitter/spreader and some TLC time your 2 p & g's should stay together pretty well. Is taping a good thing? Maybe, at least until you have a problem. If the connectors start to get hot `cause some dummy overloaded the circuit or maybe there's a loose connection inside you will not only have a hot potato in your hand but you'll likely have your fingers coated in boiling tape adhesive which sticks and cools slowly, very slowly. I always like taking a twist like the first step of a granny before you make the plug; one reason you've got a connector set is so that you can disconnect the fixture from power quickly if you need to. Think twice before you defeat that. If it's truly desperate, diagonal tie line maybe but when you have an emergency tape makes for a very sticky situation. Didn't mean that pun but those things happen. Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ********** E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act. ********** ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050223170234.01e6a7c0 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:10:11 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Gerber Multitools In-Reply-To: References: I am a long-time subscriber to the "bigger hammer" approach. And this is, I believe, a bigger hammer! Paul, if you decide to go this way, let us know the outcome. Mike At 03:40 PM 2/23/2005, MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 2/23/5 11:10:57 AM, mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com writes: ><< Jim Purdin >President/CEO >Fiskars Brands, Inc. >2537 Daniels St. >Madison, WI 53718 > >Phone: 608-259-1649 >Fax: 608-294-4790 >> > >I like how you think, Mike! >We've got list members in Madison and for the right price, I'll make the trip >in person. > >Kristi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:09:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: On cables with older plugs, I always have a piece of tie line that I tie the plugs together. Use the tieline on the coil when not in use. Most of my plugs are Bates Plugs. Haven't had a single problem with any of them during the past five years. Never had them come unplugged, never lost a plug, nothing. steve > From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:56:11 -0500 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > IIRC the 2 p & g with the little locking clip was called the: "Harj Lock", > seemed like a good idea but I haven't seen any in years. If you've got a > pin splitter/spreader and some TLC time your 2 p & g's should stay together > pretty well. Is taping a good thing? Maybe, at least until you have a > problem. If the connectors start to get hot `cause some dummy overloaded > the circuit or maybe there's a loose connection inside you will not only > have a hot potato in your hand but you'll likely have your fingers coated > in boiling tape adhesive which sticks and cools slowly, very slowly. I > always like taking a twist like the first step of a granny before you make > the plug; one reason you've got a connector set is so that you can > disconnect the fixture from power quickly if you need to. Think twice > before you defeat that. If it's truly desperate, diagonal tie line maybe > but when you have an emergency tape makes for a very sticky situation. > Didn't mean that pun but those things happen. > > Marty Petlock > Technical Facilities Manager > Van Wezel P.A.H. > Sarasota, FL. > > ********** > E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and > employees in connection with official City business > are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records > Act. > ********** > > > > ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:17:38 -0600 Message-ID: <5D5187063B6B8B46A99E8C0D36E0EB0909333B [at] danube.river.idm.com> From: "Steven Haworth" I second the Bates plugs - easy to assemble, and rock solid. My favs... - Steven (sjh [at] idm.com) --------------------------- http://www.stagelights.info >On cables with older plugs, I always have a piece >of tie line that I tie the plugs together. Use >the tieline on the coil when not in use. Most >of my plugs are Bates Plugs. Haven't had a single >problem with any of them during the past five >years. Never had them come unplugged, never lost a >plug, nothing. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1dd.37f0721a.2f4e6447 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:57:11 EST Subject: Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! In a message dated 23/02/05 21:53:35 GMT Standard Time, Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com writes: > IIRC the 2 p & g with the little locking clip was called the: "Harj Lock", > seemed like a good idea but I haven't seen any in years. If you've got a > pin splitter/spreader and some TLC time your 2 p & g's should stay together > pretty well. Is taping a good thing? Maybe, at least until you have a > problem. If the connectors start to get hot `cause some dummy overloaded > the circuit or maybe there's a loose connection inside you will not only > have a hot potato in your hand but you'll likely have your fingers coated > in boiling tape adhesive which sticks and cools slowly, very slowly. Heaven help me. I had thought that this had gone out with the ark! OK, I am old enough to have had to do it, but that was a long time ago. Connector technology has come a good way since then. I certainly haven't seen split-pin connectors for many years. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-id: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:02:24 -0500 Subject: Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! From: "Joshua Webb" References: In-Reply-To: "Stagecraft" writes: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >In a message dated 23/02/05 21:53:35 GMT Standard Time, >Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com writes: > >> IIRC the 2 p & g with the little locking clip was called the: "Harj >Lock", >> seemed like a good idea but I haven't seen any in years. If you've got >a >> pin splitter/spreader and some TLC time your 2 p & g's should stay >together >> pretty well. Is taping a good thing? Maybe, at least until you have a >> problem. If the connectors start to get hot `cause some dummy >overloaded >> the circuit or maybe there's a loose connection inside you will not >only >> have a hot potato in your hand but you'll likely have your fingers >coated >> in boiling tape adhesive which sticks and cools slowly, very slowly. > >Heaven help me. I had thought that this had gone out with the ark! OK, I >am >old enough to have had to do it, but that was a long time ago. Connector >technology has come a good way since then. I certainly haven't seen >split-pin >connectors for many years. > >Frank Wood Some of are operating with old stock and limited funds for replacement. Slowly but surely. Joshua G. Webb Designer/Technical Director Worcester Academy 81 Providence St. Worcester, MA 01604 508.754.5302 x174 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <62.4f590081.2f4e66c3 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:07:47 EST Subject: Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! In a message dated 23/02/05 23:03:28 GMT Standard Time, jwebb [at] worcesteracademy.org writes: > Some of are operating with old stock and limited funds for replacement. > Slowly but surely. My sympathjy. That's all I can offer. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:21:18 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! Message-id: <421D0FEE.2DD72499 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > In a message dated 23/02/05 23:03:28 GMT Standard Time, > jwebb [at] worcesteracademy.org writes: > > > Some of are operating with old stock and limited funds for replacement. > > Slowly but surely. > > My sympathjy. That's all I can offer. To be fair, split pin connectors are pretty much the standard on this side of the pond. There's a pretty good description here http://www.stagepin.com/20A/adi_-_bates_20a_products.html Some of us are operating with old stock, but the new stock is just nicer split pin connectors. Steve Litterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <96.21be6361.2f4e6db8 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:37:28 EST Subject: Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! In a message dated 23/02/05 23:22:41 GMT Standard Time, slitterst [at] ithaca.edu writes: > To be fair, split pin connectors are pretty much the standard on this > side of the pond. There's a pretty good description here > http://www.stagepin.com/20A/adi_-_bates_20a_products.html > Some of us are operating with old stock, but the new stock is just > nicer split pin connectors. Maybe so. I sympathise with your problems. But, I condemn your old-fashioned customs. Once. you were the most technologically advanced country in the world. Today, this is no longer true. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:45:36 EST Subject: Re: Bad! Bad, Electrician! No doughnuts! In a message dated 2/23/05 6:38:10 PM, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com writes: << Maybe so. I sympathise with your problems. But, I condemn your old-fashioned customs. Once. you were the most technologically advanced country in the world. Today, this is no longer true. Frank Wood >> come on Frank, , pretty soon you're going to be telling us Iran has no desire to possess nuclear weapons, truth is, in this day and age no country can claim to be the most technologically advanced country in the world, information and technology exchanges around the world and through international companies too quickly, there is no technological leader. the King is Dead, Long Live the King very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050224003312.67841.qmail [at] web51703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:33:12 -0800 (PST) From: Norman Lazarus Subject: Re: Pilling the cat In-Reply-To: Back in the late 80's I was working at the Palladium nightclub in NYC. We had a resident cat, Alien, who patrolled the basement and acted as our rodent bouncer. He did a much more effective job than our exterminator. Norman Lazarus __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Subject: cell phone on stage? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:50:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "jknipple" Our props mistress has a question for the wisdom of the list. We need to have a cell phone ring reliably on stage during a = performance. I am worried that a regular cell phone might be called = during the performance at an inopportune time, and it will live in = actor's pocket so there's no way it can be wired into the sound board. = Any suggestions will be appreciated! James Knipple =A0 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:53:40 EST Subject: Re: cell phone on stage? In a message dated 2/23/05 7:51:15 PM, jknipple [at] howardcc.edu writes: << We need to have a cell phone ring reliably on stage during a performance. I am worried that a regular cell phone might be called during the performance at an inopportune time, and it will live in actor's pocket so there's no way it can be wired into the sound board. Any suggestions will be appreciated! >> buy a cheap throw away , pay in advance cell phone at Walmart or Sam's or most anywhere, , and most importantly, dedicate it just for this purpose, no one would have the number except those who would need to make it ring on que experiment with how long you can dial the first six numbers, , wait on the 7th,, and hit it just before you need the que, just a thought, , very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:53:47 -0500 (EST) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: cell phone on stage? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My guess is that nobody will know the difference if you hide a speaker somewhere in the set close to the actor and just play a recording of a cell phone ringing. Of course if you're in the round with people sitting 5' away that may not work... | Boyd Ostroff | Director of Design and Technology | Opera Company of Philadelphia | http://tech.operaphilly.com | ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: cell phone on stage? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:57:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: "jknipple" We're in a black box, in the round, on a turntable. But it was a good thought! James Knipple =20 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 > Of course if you're in the round with people sitting=20 5' away that may not work... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050223172301.029dc4f8 [at] localhost> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:26:11 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Gaffers Tape as C-Clamp?? In-Reply-To: References: At 10:17 AM 2/20/2005, you wrote: >The ORIGINAL specification for Gaffer's Tape was developed when 3M asked >IA gaffers in Hollywood "What should a new type of tape be capable of >doing, for you to buy it, or recommend it's purchase?" That answer was: It >must be able to safely support a 'Deuce' (a 2K Fresnel) to a vertical >non-porous or semi-porous surface. The original 3M product did exactly >that. Really. >/s/ Richard I seem to remember Lowel (sp?) Lighting had something to do with that, they have/had a flat metal plate with a pin mount that you tape to the wall. 3M makes some REALLY good tape. I've used it in products to hold the glass plate on in front of a plasma display and a recent Machine Design magazine was advertising their latest double-stick tape for replacing spot-welds in metal assembly. You really don't want to give a roll of this to someone who tends to get wound up in tape. :) ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: "Andy Leviss" Subject: RE: cell phone on stage? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:14:10 -0500 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <000001c51a0e$3e672aa0$a19afea9 [at] AndyLeviss> In-Reply-To: Re: hiding a speaker in the set, James wrote: > We're in a black box, in the round, on a turntable. > > But it was a good thought! That's even better. Get a small speaker (last time I had to do this, it was an EV S-40), and hang it from the grid directly over where the actor is blocked when the phone should ring. I used it pointing down at the floor to bounce it back up and diffuse it a bit, although you may also want to try pointing it directly at the ceiling and compare the two. If you set the level properly, it sounds incredibly realistic. I did it in a very intimate in-the-round studio theatre, and had good friends who really ought to have known better coming up to me after the show and asking how we got the phone to ring on cue. The LAST thing you want to do is try to get a real cell to ring on cue. Even if it's a dedicated pay-as-you-go as previously suggested. It will not cue reliably, because you're going through your local network to whatever networks are between you and the cell provider, the cell provider's internal network, the cell tower, and then to the phone. And when the phone rings also depends on where in its cycle it is, as phones (at least CDMA phones, anyway, I assume other protocols are similar) are not in contact with the tower continuously--this is why every once in a while you'll get a missed call when the phone never rang). And what if the cell network is busy? It's annoying on a phone call in real life; when it's a cue in a show, disaster. --Andy Leviss Webmaster http://OneFromTheRoad.com Tools, Toys, and Tales for the Theatrical Technician -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:18:03 EST Subject: Re: cell phone on stage? In a message dated 2/23/05 9:15:05 PM, Andy [at] DucksEchoSound.com writes: << And what if the cell network is busy? It's annoying on a phone call in real life; when it's a cue in a show, disaster. >> true true, .,as the one who suggested the cheap "real" cell phone,, I officially withdraw the suggestion from the floor and will retire now to perform 30 "mea culpas" my bad, , , what was I thinking ? keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:27:39 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: cell phone on stage? In-reply-to: Message-id: <2463.172.133.123.53.1109212059.squirrel [at] 172.133.123.53> References: > --------------------------------------------------- > Our props mistress has a question for the wisdom of the list. > We need to have a cell phone ring reliably on stage during a performance. > I am worried that a regular cell phone might be called during the > performance at an inopportune time, and it will live in actor's pocket so > there's no way it can be wired into the sound board. Any suggestions will > be appreciated! Go to Best Buy. Browse the cordless phone section for something that looks like a cell phone. There are a few, even a couple of flip models. You can use the "page" feature on the base to make it ring, or plug it into a Tele-Q if you have one around. Steve Litterst ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:50:22 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: cell phone on stage? In-reply-to: Message-id: <2558.172.133.123.53.1109213422.squirrel [at] 172.133.123.53> References:

> --------------------------------------------------- > That's even better. Get a small speaker (last time I had to do this, it > was an EV S-40), and hang it from the grid directly over where the actor > is blocked when the phone should ring. I used it pointing down at the > floor to bounce it back up and diffuse it a bit, although you may also > want to try pointing it directly at the ceiling and compare the two. I did this for a production of "Faith Healer" in the round a few years back. One of the characters listens to a record player and we had no acceptable way of getting signal to the player. One speaker directly overhead focused on the turntable ended up being remarkably convincing. Steve Litterst ------------------------------ Message-ID: <01cf01c51a1d$c2353d90$0400a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" Subject: Re: cell phone on stage? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:05:53 -0500 I had the same problem and substituted a Uniden FRS radio (US only) with a "call" feature. It sort-of looks like a funky cell phone. The actor covers it with his hand most of the time anyway. Basically, the "call" featured is like an encoded ringer. You press the "Call" button on one phone and the other phone "rings". Even had a choice of "call" tones. The "alert" volume is independent of the volume control, so the regular volume is set to zero. This is subject to interference, since anyone nearby could have an FRS, but we monitored the FRS frequencies for a week and picked a channel that never seemed to have any signals nearby. Since the volume is turned down, there couldn't be any outside signals heard by the audience. The worst is someone from the outside with the same Uniden brand phone would press the same "call" feature. Worked fine except the sound man would occasionally keep "ringing" the phone after the actor had "answered" his call! The "wireless" phone is also a good choice, if you can find one that looks like a cell phone. The FRS was cheaper solution at the time. Alf > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Litterst" > To: "Stagecraft" > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:27 PM > Subject: Re: cell phone on stage? > > >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> Our props mistress has a question for the wisdom of the list. >>> We need to have a cell phone ring reliably on stage during a >>> performance. >>> I am worried that a regular cell phone might be called during the >>> performance at an inopportune time, and it will live in actor's pocket >>> so >>> there's no way it can be wired into the sound board. Any suggestions >>> will >>> be appreciated! >> >> Go to Best Buy. Browse the cordless phone section for something that >> looks like a cell phone. There are a few, even a couple of flip models. >> You can use the "page" feature on the base to make it ring, or plug it >> into a Tele-Q if you have one around. >> >> Steve Litterst >> > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <421D5B4B.837C0C6C [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:42:51 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: Gerber Multitools References:

Mike Brubaker wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I am a long-time subscriber to the "bigger hammer" approach. And this is, > I believe, a bigger hammer! > > Paul, if you decide to go this way, let us know the outcome. > > Mike Sometimes it even works. I once got the site manager for a overnight package delivery service* fired. I had looked up corporate HQ phone number, asked for [president's name]'s office, and ended up telling my tale of woe to the executive secretary. She took my information and the very next morning there was a truck waiting for me at the office, with a driver instructed to fill my every (legal) need. That evening I chatted with the regular pickup driver, and he said that a team had flown in from corporate and after an hour or two of asking questions of the staff on duty, had decided to fire the guy before he was able to get back in to defend himself. * I've forgotten which service it was. --Dale ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #306 *****************************