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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #325

 1. DMX Channels
    by "Thad Kramer" <thad [at] nls.net>
 2. Re: Listers Talents
    by "Fred Schoening, Jr." <bigfred [at] mindspring.com>
 3. Currency on USITT Expo floor
    by "Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
 4. Re: Peeps... sigh
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 5. Re: PDA's
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 6. Help Looking for a part. ASAP
    by "Jonathan Wills" <Jonathan [at] WillsLighting.com>
 7. Re: Peeps... sigh
    by "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
 8. Re: Peeps... sigh
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
 9. Re: Peeps... sigh
    by "Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
10. Listers Talents
    by "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
11. Re: Currency on USITT Expo floor
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
12. Re: Peeps... sigh
    by Adam Fitchett <adam [at] fitchtech.net>
13. Re: Peeps... sigh
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
14. Re: Peeps... sigh
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
15. Re: Peeps... sigh
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
16. 520i
    by "jknipple" <jknipple [at] howardcc.edu>
17. Re: Currency on USITT Expo floor
    by Barney Simon <barney [at] josephchansen.com>
18. Re: Subject: Summer Trap Rebuild project
    by "Bll Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
19. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU
    by Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
20. Re: 520i
    by "Storms, Randy" <rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu>
21. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
22. Re: Peeps... sigh
    by "Merel Ray-Pfeifer" <mraypfeifer [at] mail.millikin.edu>
23. Re: Peeeeeps
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
24. Re: PDA's
    by "Nigel Worsley" <nigle [at] dsl.pipex.com>
25. Re: Peeps... sigh
    by "Joe Golden" <Joe [at] elslights.com>
26. Re: Currency on USITT Expo floor
    by "richard j. archer" <rja10 [at] cornell.edu>
27. Re: PDA's
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
28. Re: Listers Talents
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
29. Re: PDA's
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
30. Re: 520i
    by "Klyph Stanford" <klyphstanford [at] earthlink.net>
31. Re: PDA's
    by "Steve B." <sbmtbike [at] optonline.net>
32. Re: video
    by Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
33. Re: PDA's
    by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" <WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU>
34. Job Posting - Sound Engineer
    by "Shakespeare & Company Production Manager" <production [at] shakespeare.org>
35. Re: LX board monitor compatibility 
    by Ford H Sellers <fhs4 [at] cornell.edu>
36. Re: Peeeeeeps
    by "Josh Ratty" <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
37. Re: 520i
    by "C. Andrew Dunning" <cad [at] landrudesign.com>
38. Re: Peeeeeps
    by Nicholas Kuhl <nkuhl [at] bu.edu>
39. Re: Costumers
    by "Bryan H. Ackler" <backler [at] ix.netcom.com>
40. Re: Listers Talents
    by "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
41. Re: PDA's
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
42. Re: 520i
    by Samuel Jones <sjones [at] ucla.edu>
43. Re: Peeeeeeps
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
44. Re: LX board monitor compatibility 
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
45. Why carry equipment?
    by Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
46. Re: Why carry equipment?
    by Steve Larson <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
47. Re: Why carry equipment?
    by Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
48. Re: PDA's
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
49. Re: Why carry equipment?
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
50. Re: PDA's
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
51. Stage Expo, Stagecraft stickers
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
52. Re: PDA's
    by "Ronnie Thevenot" <rkt [at] ronniethevenot.com>
53. Re: Why carry equipment?
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
54. Re: Why carry equipment?
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
55. Re: audience signage
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
56. Re: audience signage
    by "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
57. Re: Peeeeeeps
    by "Josh Ratty" <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
58. Re: Why carry equipment?
    by "Josh Ratty" <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
59. Re: Why carry equipment?
    by John Bracewell <jbrace [at] lightlink.com>
60. Re: Peeps... sigh
    by Greg Williams <gwilliams [at] appstate.edu>
61. Re: Why carry equipment?
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
62. Re: PDA's
    by "Andy Leviss" <Andy [at] DucksEchoSound.com>
63. Need info on doing Peter Pan
    by "Gray  Chontelle" <cgray [at] cwc.edu>
64. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan
    by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" <WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU>
65. Re: Peeps... sigh
    by "Merel Ray-Pfeifer" <mraypfeifer [at] mail.millikin.edu>
66. Re: Why carry equipment?
    by Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
67. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
68. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
69. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan
    by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" <WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU>
70. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan
    by Andrew Vance <andrew [at] andrewvance.com>
71. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
72. Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan
    by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
73. Re: DMX Channels
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
74. Re: DMX Channels
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
75. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
76. Re: Why carry equipment?
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
77. Re: Why carry equipment?
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
78. Re: Why carry equipment?
    by Greg Persinger <gregpersin [at] comcast.net>
79. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU
    by Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
80. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU
    by "Andy Leviss" <Andy [at] DucksEchoSound.com>

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From: "Thad Kramer" <thad [at] nls.net>
Subject: DMX Channels
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:17:50 -0500
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FYI,

The Source 4 Revolution doesn't necessarily use all 31 channels. It
depends on which modules you're using in them. The 31 channels are only
for the shutters. For example, if you're only using one bay and an iris
I think it drops down to around 17-20. I don't remember off the top of
my head.

I've got a touring rig for AIDA (which is currently on break until
April) that has 13 Revolutions, 60 Apollo SmartColor Scrollers, 2
Hazers, and 6 Cyberlight CX units. That eats up pretty much an entire
universe in itself, and then I have a second universe controlling my 144
dimmers plus about 15 or so house dimmers we end up using for our FOH
positions. That translates into using about 8 outputs on two separate
rack mounted Optos and a whole lot of DMX cable.

Oh, and incase you're curious, I use an Expression 3 linked via MIDI
Show Control to a laptop running HOG PC to control my movers.

Thad Kramer,
The Light Fantastic, Inc.
Dayton, Ohio
W (937) 253-4433
F (937) 253-5722
C (614) 477-2225


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Message-ID: <26500170.1110549211782.JavaMail.root [at] wamui06.slb.atl.earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:53:31 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
From: "Fred Schoening, Jr." <bigfred [at] mindspring.com>
Reply-To: "Fred Schoening, Jr." <bigfred [at] mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Listers Talents

Cushy TD position?!? You mean they don't have to work 
14+ hour days all the time? Where do I sign up?!

; )

Fred

TD, Dallas Theater Center
Dallas, Texas, USA

-----Original Message-----
A few years later I gave up on some cushy TD position 



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Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE3902625DF72 [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
From: "Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
Subject: Currency on USITT Expo floor
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:04:17 -0600

Hello all,

I am making some final plans for Toronto and I got to wondering.  On the
expo floor (not the food vendors, but the actual display areas) you can buy
books, little tools/gadgets, ie.  Will these vendors be taking Canadian
currency or US money.  Just wondering!

Pat Immel
Northwest Missouri State University

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 04:19:12 -1000
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh
Message-id: <006901c52645$4d5174b0$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p>
References: <list-20654589 [at] prxy.net>

<<Maybe listers could wear a PEEP proudly on the floor.>>

I had hopes that the list would come up with an identification slightly more
menacing.

Oh well.

Laters,

Paul

"Oh my god... Quick, Get back... I thinks its poised to spring" Tom peeped.

Erm... I don't think that one works.


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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 04:23:26 -1000
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: PDA's
Message-id: <006d01c52645$e53a0170$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p>
References: <list-20654589 [at] prxy.net>

I'm not trying to start something... believe me.  I truly want this
information.

I am considering acquiring a mid price range personal data assistant... what
do members of the list recommend.  I would like to be able to link to my
computers, both PC and Mac, do some writing, address book.  Do these things
have web access through cell phnes?

Thanks,

Paul

"As soon as the rain stops, we'll break camp," said Tom intently.


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Reply-To: <Jonathan [at] WillsLighting.com>
From: "Jonathan Wills" <Jonathan [at] WillsLighting.com>
Subject: Help Looking for a part. ASAP
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:24:48 -0500
Organization: Wills Lighting & Stage
Message-ID: <0MKz1m-1D9l4H1g44-0003S8 [at] mrelay.perfora.net>

Hello,

All I am looking for a control module for a Lite-Puter DX1220. I am
specifically looking for the DP-5 control module. It sits on the right hand
side of the dimmer rack. If you have one or know of a US distributor please
call me. I really need some one who has one state-side for an overnight
shipment.

Please contact me off list as I only receive the digest version.

Thank you,

Jonathan Wills
Wills Lighting and Stage
www.WillsLighting.com
Toll Free 866.909.4557
Local 423.559.0606
Fax 423.559.0071




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Message-Id: <s231645a.005 [at] ac3.nesd.k12.pa.us>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:26:07 -0500
From: "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh

What could be much more menacing than a puffed up peep? Just stick the
sugary blob on your neck with a little stage blood. "The Attack of the
Menacing Easter Peeps".

Les Lind, TD
NHS Dramatics
Northeastern High School
Manchester, PA



>>> paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net 3/11/05 9:19 AM >>>
For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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<<Maybe listers could wear a PEEP proudly on the floor.>>

I had hopes that the list would come up with an identification slightly
more
menacing.

Oh well.

Laters,

Paul

"Oh my god... Quick, Get back... I thinks its poised to spring" Tom
peeped.

Erm... I don't think that one works.


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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:27:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh
In-reply-to: <list-20674260 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <3258.172.144.209.203.1110551221.squirrel [at] 172.144.209.203>
References: <list-20654589 [at] prxy.net> <list-20674260 [at] prxy.net>

> ---------------------------------------------------

> <<Maybe listers could wear a PEEP proudly on the floor.>>
>
> I had hopes that the list would come up with an identification slightly
> more menacing.

We could slap an eyepatch on them an make them Pirate Peeps?

Steve Litterst


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Message-ID: <147CF8DFB9C5D41187300001FA7EE3902625DF76 [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
From: "Immel,Patrick" <PIMMEL [at] mail.nwmissouri.edu>
Subject: RE: Peeps... sigh
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:32:25 -0600

Pirates are menacing.

Could they be "evil" pirates?

Or we could have peeps with fricken' laser beams attached to there heads?

That's menacing!

Pat Immel 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Litterst [mailto:slitterst [at] ithaca.edu] 
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:27 AM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> > <<Maybe listers could wear a PEEP proudly on the floor.>>
> >
> > I had hopes that the list would come up with an identification 
> > slightly more menacing.
> 
> We could slap an eyepatch on them an make them Pirate Peeps?
> 
> Steve Litterst
> 

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Message-Id: <s2316706.033 [at] ac3.nesd.k12.pa.us>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:37:33 -0500
From: "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
Subject: Listers Talents

Thank you all for your input into this thread. It made for quite
interesting reading  the past few cold days here in central
Pennsylvania. I too have had several jobs in the past. I'm still not
quite sure what I want to be when I grow up. Lucky for me I have a wife
that has had a teaching position for the last 32 years while I've been
floundering. That will all come to a screeching halt in a few years as
she informed me that I better have a real job by the time she retires.
Pressure is on. ...a real job... a real job?
Les

Les Lind, TD
NHS Dramatics
Northeastern High School
Manchester, PA



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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:41:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Currency on USITT Expo floor
Message-Id: <20050311.064218.11960.137421 [at] webmail02.lax.untd.com>


The previous Calgary and Toronto conventions had primarily US vendors which accepted US currency. The USITT National Office booth, which sells both great new books and USITT-logo items, accepts dollars and credit cards. In fact, Visa/MC/AE cards are accepted worldwide at most conventions and hotels and arguably provide the best exchange rates in any case.
/s/ Richard

Hello all,
I am making some final plans for Toronto and I got to wondering.  On the expo floor (not the food vendors, but the actual display areas) you can buy books, little tools/gadgets, ie.  Will these vendors be taking Canadian currency or US money.  Just wondering!
Pat Immel



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Message-ID: <4231AE86.50408 [at] fitchtech.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:43:18 -0500
From: Adam Fitchett <adam [at] fitchtech.net>
Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh
References: <list-20675628 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-20675628 [at] prxy.net>

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That was great! Off to a great start on this Friday, now to go do
battle for my life (or rather my education) from something other than
peeps (and far more evil: administrators).<br>
<br>
-Adam Fitchett<br>
<br>
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Pirates are menacing.

Could they be "evil" pirates?

Or we could have peeps with fricken' laser beams attached to there heads?

That's menacing!

Pat Immel 

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From: Stephen Litterst [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:slitterst [at] ithaca.edu">mailto:slitterst [at] ithaca.edu</a>] 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:27 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh

For info, archives &amp; UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
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Subject: RE: Peeps... sigh
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:01:40 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C750 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> <<Maybe listers could wear a PEEP proudly on the floor.>>
>=20
> I had hopes that the list would come up with an=20
> identification slightly more menacing.

What about a connection with something a little more stagecraft-ish,
like "Sing Faster"?

I'm picturing peeps in Viking helmets brandishing double-bladed candy
axes...

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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <d2.246aaeca.2f630dc5 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:05:41 EST
Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh


In a message dated 3/11/05 10:02:49 AM, pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu writes:

<< I'm picturing peeps in Viking helmets brandishing double-bladed candy
axes... >>


Are those "double-bladed candy axes"  approved for stage combat ? 

keith

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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:04:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh
Message-Id: <20050311.070536.11960.137817 [at] webmail02.lax.untd.com>


I'll settle for the 'Hamster' sticker created for LDI, if its all the same to you...
/s/ Richard


<<Maybe listers could wear a PEEP proudly on the floor.>>



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Subject: 520i
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:08:22 -0500
Message-ID: <AA692554B034A84D977E17CD1E1C1569014CC84B [at] ex2000.hccnet.howardcc.edu>
From: "jknipple" <jknipple [at] howardcc.edu>

At the risk of starting another ETC vs Strand thread...

Could someone who's switched from an ETC Expression to a 500 series =
Strand board email me off list? We're thinking about switching to a 520i =
when the new building is completed, so I'm just looking for some =
thoughts/opinions, both positive and negative.

TIA

Jim


James Knipple
=A0
Technical Director
REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage
Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20
- www.howardcc.edu/studentarts
jknipple [at] howardcc.edu
410-772-4451



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Message-ID: <4231B4F7.60108 [at] josephchansen.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:10:47 -0500
From: Barney Simon <barney [at] josephchansen.com>
Subject: Re: Currency on USITT Expo floor
References: <list-20676545 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-20676545 [at] prxy.net>

ladesigners [at] juno.com wrote:

>... and arguably provide the best exchange rates in any case.
>/s/ Richard
>
I just received an updated terms and conditions on my CC's that states 
they are going to add a conversion fee to historically favorable 
exchange rates.  I'm anxious to see how that affects life.  I still like 
using my ATM card internationally for good rates, until the banks screw 
that up.

Barney Simon
JC Hansen Co
Drapes, Drops, and Dance Floor


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Message-ID: <002501c5264c$9fc36580$8d01a8c0 [at] BCA1>
Reply-To: "Bll Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
From: "Bll Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
Subject: Re:  Subject: Summer Trap Rebuild project
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:11:27 -0600

There are several approaches.  Were I the td, my preference would be to 
simply frame the trap area like a floor in a house:  2X8's up and down 
stage, sub floor, finish floor.  I'd probably set a 2x8 band sill into the 
slab edge with a removable anchor and use joist hangers for the 2X8's.  This 
is quick, cheap, and can be easily modified with a circular saw and rebuilt 
quickly and inexpensively.

For most other than myself, I'd look at the new StageRight products that use 
a single membrane ply deck. Probably this would require replacing 2x4 
ledgers with new steel shelf angles with the locator nodes attached.  Span 
up and down stage with four 4 X 8's (though I'd look in drawings at five 
3'2" X 8' which gives you a trap center - or - three 4 X 8' and two 2 X 8's 
with nodes for all of them in any position).  You didn't say what the finish 
floor was but these could have strip flooring attached - not that I like to 
do that.

You could build your own similar to StageRight scheme.  I'd recommend either 
steel framing on steel shelf angles or site built stressed skin on steel 
shelf angles.  Either system would be more dimensionally stable than 2X and 
potentially lighter in weight.

I don't know how important the resiliency of the neoprene pads is to your 
program.  Adding pads to scheme 1 is tough but that system has some 
resiliency built in.  Scheme 2 would require a fussy shelf angle with 
separate node bar on top of it - sitting on pads - and held in plan by pins 
or some locator that allows vertical but not horizontal movement.  Third 
scheme is easy - just place pads under corners of each section.  Hold downs 
are a little tricky to get them to do their job but not be loose or noisy.

God luck.  Post some pictures when you're done and let us know how they 
perform.

Regards,  Bill 


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Message-ID: <4231B74B.1080408 [at] fuse.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:20:43 -0500
From: Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU
References: <list-20616570 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-20616570 [at] prxy.net>

Paul Schreiner wrote:


> FWIW, Cyberlights use 20...
> 

I take it this acronym means "Frank Wood is Wrong?"

Very useful, will save hours of typing.



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Subject: RE: 520i
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:12:44 -0800
Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B7323A31 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu>
From: "Storms, Randy" <rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu>

Jim - Why would you do this?  I've used a 520i daily for the last five =
years or so, and it's OK for 90% of what I do, but if I was given a =
choice I'd take the ETC in a heartbeat...

-- r.

Randy Storms, TD
Belllingham HS Theatre
rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of jknipple
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:08 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: 520i


For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

At the risk of starting another ETC vs Strand thread...

Could someone who's switched from an ETC Expression to a 500 series =
Strand board email me off list? We're thinking about switching to a 520i =
when the new building is completed, so I'm just looking for some =
thoughts/opinions, both positive and negative.

TIA

Jim


James Knipple
=A0
Technical Director
REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage
Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20
- www.howardcc.edu/studentarts
jknipple [at] howardcc.edu
410-772-4451



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Subject: RE: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:15:27 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C751 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> >  FWIW, Cyberlights use 20...
>=20
> Ouch! What do they do with them all? Brightness, coarse and=20
> fine pan, tilt,=20
> zoom, and focus. Colour change makes one more. After that, I=20
> suppose you're=20
> into gobo selectors and rotators. But I still can't count twenty.

Pan (coarse and fine, 2 channels)
Tilt (coarse and fine, 2 channels)
Color wheel
C/M/Y mix (3 channels, one for each)
Static litho selection
Rotating litho selection
Rotation speed/direction
Zoom
Focus
Iris
Effects wheel
Frost
Shutter
Intensity
Motor speed
Special control (home/shutdown)

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Message-Id: <s23161f3.010 [at] mail.millikin.edu>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:16:20 -0600
From: "Merel Ray-Pfeifer" <mraypfeifer [at] mail.millikin.edu>
Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh

Have you seen the blood red peeps that are out now?  Those could be
scarey in the right light.  Or the black cats they had out on
Halloween?

At the local Target there is a whole section in the Easter asle of
Peep-mania.  I especially liked the Peep hats.  Yes, it was a peep big
enough to wear.

Merel

> 
> > <<Maybe listers could wear a PEEP proudly on the floor.>>
> >
> > I had hopes that the list would come up with an identification 
> > slightly more menacing.
> 
> We could slap an eyepatch on them an make them Pirate Peeps?
> 
> Steve Litterst
> 

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Message-ID: <002901c52651$0284ef00$0600000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-20617692 [at] prxy.net> <list-20618513 [at] prxy.net> <list-20618845 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Peeeeeps
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:43:02 -0800

> Try working with some young teens after they ingest 47 (the local record) 
> Pixie Sticks simultaneously.  And for the love... do NOT snort them.


Yeah, nothing's worse than walking around with that purple or orange crust 
on your nose.

Reminds me of the gradeschoolers with the purple, red or blue felt pen marks 
under his nose - from sniffing those fruit 'flavored' pens.  (Do they still 
make those?  Talk about yummy.)

     -- Jon Ares
Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts
www.hevanet.com/acreative
www.wlhstheatre.org 


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Message-ID: <06b001c5264e$b61a2b00$0c00a8c0 [at] Nigellaptop>
From: "Nigel Worsley" <nigle [at] dsl.pipex.com>
References: <list-20654589 [at] prxy.net> <list-20674732 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: PDA's
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:26:34 -0000

Paul Guncheon wrote:
> I am considering acquiring a mid price range personal data assistant... what
> do members of the list recommend.  I would like to be able to link to my
> computers, both PC and Mac, do some writing, address book.  Do these things
> have web access through cell phnes?

Pocket PCs need third party software to sync with a Mac, there is an example here:

http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_pocketpc.php

There may well be others, I don't use Macs so I haven't looked.

Web and email access is possible through a mobile phone, or anything else that
it is connected to eg. when connected to a PC for synchronisation it can use the
PC's internet connection ( not sure why you would want to though! ).

Can't speak for Palms, as I haver never used them.

I had a play around with a Sony Clie, but the idiosyncratic user interface put me off
very quickly.

Nigel Worsley


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Subject: RE: Peeps... sigh
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:38:26 -0800
Message-ID: <FCDE18CF571244479E0A078AE596BADC9A805A [at] ftp.elslights.com>
From: "Joe Golden" <Joe [at] elslights.com>

Just go to Durand Interstellar to get those.


>=20
> I'll settle for the 'Hamster' sticker created for LDI, if its=20
> all the same to you... /s/ Richard
>=20
>=20
> <<Maybe listers could wear a PEEP proudly on the floor.>>
>=20
>=20
>=20

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Message-Id: <p05210601be576eaaddef [at] [132.236.252.58]>
In-Reply-To: <list-20676545 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-20676545 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:52:48 -0500
From: "richard j. archer" <rja10 [at] cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Currency on USITT Expo floor

>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>  In fact, Visa/MC/AE cards are accepted worldwide at most 
>conventions and hotels and arguably provide the best exchange rates 
>in any case.
>/s/ Richard


Check your credit card agreements.  Some have begun charging you 
fees for foreign currency purchases in addition to an exchange rate 
that favors the card issuer (although, as Richard says is usually 
pretty good)



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Message-ID: <005901c52652$a5c82be0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-20654589 [at] prxy.net> <list-20674732 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: PDA's
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:54:46 -0800

> I am considering acquiring a mid price range personal data assistant... 
> what
> do members of the list recommend.  I would like to be able to link to my
> computers, both PC and Mac, do some writing, address book.  Do these 
> things
> have web access through cell phnes?


I have a Pa1mOne Zire 72 and like it a lot.  I don't have a cell phone, but 
the Zire can connect to the i-net (and mail, etc) via Bluetooth and a 
Bluetooth phone.  It comes with a lot of pre-configured connections for 
various popular phones.  Because I'm a masochist, I tried setting up my Zire 
to surf the net via Bluetooth and my laptop... talk about extreme pain.  Too 
darn many variables - why did it work yesterday, and not today?  Why does it 
say my Zire is unavailable?  <sigh>  But I have heard from others that the 
Bluetooth to the phone thing works like a charm.

     -- Jon Ares
Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts
www.hevanet.com/acreative
www.wlhstheatre.org 


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Message-ID: <006701c52653$3eafd920$0600000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-20676216 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Listers Talents
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:59:02 -0800

> Thank you all for your input into this thread. It made for quite
> interesting reading  the past few cold days here in central
> Pennsylvania.

Come to sunny Oregon!!  Mid-seventies for days!  Hasn't rained in... what, a 
year?  (Seems like it, as I look out on a snowy mountain that looks as nude 
as it does in July.)  The trees are in bloom, the bugs and ants are out, and 
the neighboring volcano does a show daily on the hour.

     -- Jon Ares
Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts
www.hevanet.com/acreative
www.wlhstheatre.org 


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Message-ID: <008601c52654$0ad53360$0600000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-20654589 [at] prxy.net> <list-20674732 [at] prxy.net> <list-20681179 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: PDA's
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:04:45 -0800

> Pocket PCs need third party software to sync with a Mac, there is an 
> example here:
>
> http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_pocketpc.php
>
> There may well be others, I don't use Macs so I haven't looked.


The Palms come with sync software for both Mac and Win.

> I had a play around with a Sony Clie, but the idiosyncratic user interface 
> put me off
> very quickly.

Personally I'd stay away from Sony Clie - Sony announced recently they're 
exiting the PDA market.

   -- Jon Ares
Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts
www.hevanet.com/acreative
www.wlhstheatre.org 


------------------------------

From: "Klyph Stanford" <klyphstanford [at] earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: 520i
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:05:36 -0500
In-Reply-To: <list-20679195 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000020682315 [at] prxy.net>

I can actually think of quite a number of reasons, but I don't want to =
start
that debate yet again.

Klyph Stanford
=20
336.575.7235
=20
"Let's go get drunk on the light once more."
Georges Seurat
-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Storms,
Randy
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:13 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: 520i

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Jim - Why would you do this?  I've used a 520i daily for the last five =
years
or so, and it's OK for 90% of what I do, but if I was given a choice I'd
take the ETC in a heartbeat...

-- r.

Randy Storms, TD
Belllingham HS Theatre
rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of jknipple
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:08 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: 520i


For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

At the risk of starting another ETC vs Strand thread...

Could someone who's switched from an ETC Expression to a 500 series =
Strand
board email me off list? We're thinking about switching to a 520i when =
the
new building is completed, so I'm just looking for some =
thoughts/opinions,
both positive and negative.

TIA

Jim


James Knipple
=A0
Technical Director
REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage
Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20
- www.howardcc.edu/studentarts
jknipple [at] howardcc.edu
410-772-4451





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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:14:19 -0500
From: "Steve B." <sbmtbike [at] optonline.net>
Subject: Re: PDA's
Message-id: <000701c52655$617c2a10$6401a8c0 [at] SBFF>
References: <list-20654589 [at] prxy.net> <list-20674732 [at] prxy.net>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
>
> I am considering acquiring a mid price range personal data assistant... 
> what
> do members of the list recommend.  I would like to be able to link to my
> computers, both PC and Mac, do some writing, address book.  Do these 
> things
> have web access through cell phnes?

Mac and PC ?.  Can't say for the Pocket PC devices, in terms of how well 
they play with Mac, but the Palm units are interchangeable.

My recommendation is a Treo 600 or 650, depending on your cell carrier. 
It's a Palm OS PDA, plus phone with web and text messaging, as well as 
camera phone (more useful then you might think).

The 650 series is the improved model - better screen resolution, somewhat 
better button design, better camera, Bluetooth, etc... available from 
Sprint, Cingular and others.  The older 600 model (still a nice unit) is the 
model Verizon uses, though you might find a great deal on a 600 from Sprint 
or Cingular as they switch models.

Writing ?.  There's a ton of 3rd party software to interface Palm/Word 
files, though I'd recommend a dedicated Palm keyboard unit for serious 
typing.

The Palms are not, unfortunately, capable of becoming a WiFi RFU, as some of 
the Pocket PC devices are capable of.... (sigh).

Steve Bailey
Brooklyn College 



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Message-ID: <4231B95D.4030103 [at] fuse.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:29:33 -0500
From: Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
Subject: Re: video
References: <list-20622243 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-20622243 [at] prxy.net>

FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote:


> In a message dated 10/03/05 22:32:02 GMT Standard Time, WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU 
> writes:
> 
> 
>> Nine different cameras going to some 20 or 30 monitors (or more) over 4
>> different floors and at opposite ends of the building.
> 
> 
> Fine. How did you do it?
> 
> Frank Wood
> 

Gee Frank, in the original thread, 8 hours before you posted 
this, he explained in considerable detail...




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Message-ID: <AE85829C9F38D040A4B63DFBE5A042EA01310837 [at] ucmail6.ad.uc.edu>
From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" <WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU>
Subject: RE: PDA's
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:32:37 -0500

I like my palm Pilot but am planning on getting a Treo6550 which combines
the phone and PDA

Steve Waxler
Technical Director
College Conservatory of Music
University of Cincinnati

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Guncheon [mailto:paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:23 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: PDA's

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

I'm not trying to start something... believe me.  I truly want this
information.

I am considering acquiring a mid price range personal data assistant... what
do members of the list recommend.  I would like to be able to link to my
computers, both PC and Mac, do some writing, address book.  Do these things
have web access through cell phnes?

Thanks,

Paul

"As soon as the rain stops, we'll break camp," said Tom intently.

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Reply-To: <production [at] shakespeare.org>
From: "Shakespeare & Company Production Manager" <production [at] shakespeare.org>
Cc: THEATRE-SOUND [at] LISTSERV.AOL.COM (Discussion list for people working in sound for Live Theatre.)
Subject: Job Posting - Sound Engineer
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:33:15 -0500
Message-ID: <CGEOKHLHJKADMMDHNJGFOEMJCPAA.production [at] shakespeare.org>

Sound Engineer/Designer sought for an Equity L.O.A. 8 show, 3 stage season
at Shakespeare & Company.  Contract runs from May 2nd through August 21st.
Engineer will assist composers and designers, act as the designer for a
dance production, and co-ordinate, implement and maintain all sound.  Will
also oversee main-stage board-op, and be responsible for tracking budget on
all shows.  Knowledge of SFX helpful.  Housing available, local
transportation negotiable, though preferred candidates will have own
transportation.  Salary commensurate with experience.  Experience in fast
paced Summer Theater helpful.  E.O.E.  Send cover letter, resume and
references to Jobsearch, 70 Kemble St., Lenox, MA 01240, or e-mail to
jobsearch [at] shakespeare.org.  Additional information can be found at
www.shakespeare.org.


Nathan Towne-Smith
Production Manager
Shakespeare & Company
70 Kemble St.
Lenox, MA 01240
(413) 637-3169 (office)
(413) 637-4274 (fax)
production [at] shakespeare.org

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Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050311114924.024d5028 [at] postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:53:45 -0500
From: Ford H Sellers <fhs4 [at] cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: LX board monitor compatibility 

Our sound guy got a couple of really cheap-o ones for his computerized 
set-up, and found that they made a bunch of RF noise.  So much in fact that 
he doesn't use them.  so if yer gonna set your Light Board and Sound Board 
up in the same area, Be Careful.

************************
Ford H Sellers
Master Electrician
Cornell University
Schwartz Center for the Performing Arts
430 College Avenue
Ithaca NY, 14850
(607) 254-2736  office
(607) 254-2733  fax 



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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:01:56 -0500
From: "Josh Ratty" <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Peeeeeeps
Message-id: <008101c5265c$08cebb60$a900a8c0 [at] Rattys>
References: <list-20545910 [at] prxy.net> <list-20546164 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-20548604 [at] prxy.net> <list-20549946 [at] prxy.net> <list-20550397 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-20550554 [at] prxy.net> <list-20550634 [at] prxy.net> <list-20567158 [at] prxy.net>

ahh... The things i've done to "someone else's microwave".......

Josh Ratty
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Farmer" <dale [at] cybercom.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: Peeeeeeps


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Stephen Litterst wrote:
>
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Pat Kight wrote:
> > > ---------------------------------------------------
> > > Stephen E. Rees wrote:
> > > > Now I'll never get ready to go to USITT!.  Waaay too much fun to be
had
> > > > this weekend.
> > >
> > > Take the Peeps with you!
> >
> > Any exhibitors on the list have room for a microwave in the booth?  We
> > could have jousting competitions on the show floor!
>
>     There was a group of folks I knew who had picked up a beat up but
> functional microwave oven.  This was dubbed "Someone Else's Microwave"
> and they did many things with it that you would only do with someone
> else's microwave.   After a while they learned to always bring a CO2
> fire extinguisher with it, as dry chemicals do bad things to hotel room
> carpeting.
>
>     --Dale
>
>


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Reply-To: <cad [at] landrudesign.com>
From: "C. Andrew Dunning" <cad [at] landrudesign.com>
Subject: RE: 520i
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:06:19 -0600
Organization: Landru Design
In-Reply-To: <list-20678706 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000020685481 [at] prxy.net>

I wouldn't mind this being public - or being CCed in the discussion.

C. Andrew Dunning
Landru Design
-
Nashville, TN
-
cad [at] landrudesign.com
www.landrudesign.com


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf=20
>Of jknipple
>Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:08 AM
>To: Stagecraft
>Subject: 520i
>
>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20
><http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>At the risk of starting another ETC vs Strand thread...
>
>Could someone who's switched from an ETC Expression to a 500=20
>series Strand board email me off list? We're thinking about=20
>switching to a 520i when the new building is completed, so I'm=20
>just looking for some thoughts/opinions, both positive and negative.
>
>TIA
>
>Jim
>
>
>James Knipple
>=A0
>Technical Director
>REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage
>Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College
>- www.howardcc.edu/studentarts
>jknipple [at] howardcc.edu
>410-772-4451
>
>



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Message-ID: <4231D4A1.3050205 [at] bu.edu>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:25:53 -0500
From: Nicholas Kuhl <nkuhl [at] bu.edu>
Subject: Re: Peeeeeps
References: <list-20617692 [at] prxy.net> <list-20618513 [at] prxy.net> <list-20618845 [at] prxy.net> <list-20680207 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-20680207 [at] prxy.net>

"Reminds me of the gradeschoolers with the purple, red or blue felt pen 
marks under his nose - from sniffing those fruit 'flavored' pens.  (Do 
they still make those?  Talk about yummy.) "

they do indeed, and orange is the best  :-)

Nick Kuhl


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Message-ID: <4231D8B2.8030106 [at] ix.netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:43:14 -0800
From: "Bryan H. Ackler" <backler [at] ix.netcom.com>
Organization: Va. Tech - Vassar - USITT - NTHP
Subject: Re: Costumers
References: <list-20654589 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-20654589 [at] prxy.net>

Stephanie Schoelzel asked me to post the following on the subject of
Costumers.


Can you post this response for me:

Theatre organizations who pay below a reasonble living wage to hire a 
costumer/designer are not going to get a professional costumer/designer 
to work for them.  They are going to get dillatants and want-to-bes who 
are enamoured by the idea of being a great "creative" person.  The 
people they are hiring clearly know nothing about the business of being 
a working "designer".  A real designer knows that you design to the 
production circumstances, that what is approriate to the director's 
desires and serves the actors takes presidence and that making theatre 
is supposed to be a joyful endeavor that is not served by arbitrary self 
importance.

When you start offering a living wage you will get applications from 
professionals like me who have to make enough $ to pay for rent, food, a 
car and health insurance on a steady basis.  We don't need exorbitant 
amounts of money, but the days are long gone by where room and board and 
$1000 at the end of the season will keep us alive.

___________________________________________________________
stephanie [at] URLy.com         -         Stephanie A. Schoelzel
Web Architect/Project Manager/Production Designer/Webmaster
     USAA 829, IATSE 705, USITT, The Digirati Guild,
         Los Angeles SIGRAPH, HTML Writers Guild
http://www.URLy.com/          http://www.access-presto.com
                   http://www.stephstuff.com/
___________________________________________________________


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Message-ID: <03dc01c52664$89376060$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco>
From: "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
References: <list-20676216 [at] prxy.net> <list-20681841 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Listers Talents
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:02:47 -0800



> Come to sunny Oregon!!  Mid-seventies for days!  Hasn't rained in... what, 
> a year?  (Seems like it, as I look out on a snowy mountain that looks as 
> nude as it does in July.)  The trees are in bloom, the bugs and ants are 
> out, and the neighboring volcano does a show daily on the hour.
>
>     -- Jon Ares



   I saw one of those joke-y lists recently:  'You know you're really an 
Oregonian if...'  The one that struck me was, 'if you can point in the 
direction of two volcanoes, even if you can't see them.'  I thought, 'that's 
funny, but, oh-my-gosh, it's true!'  The other memorable one was, 'if you 
live equidistant from a winery, a microbrewery, and a volcano.'

   dt, (albany-corvallis) 



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In-Reply-To: <list-20682861 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: PDA's
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:09:28 -0500

If you travel a lot, I recommend the Garmin iQue 3600 or the iQue M5 Pocket 
PC.  Both have a built-in GPS system that works great.

-Delbert

Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)



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Message-Id: <6292FB1B-925B-11D9-9F46-000393BB489C [at] ucla.edu>
From: Samuel Jones <sjones [at] ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: 520i
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:28:37 -0800

I agree I missed the debate Jim Knipple mentions, and I would have been=20=

very keen seeing it.  Strand got the bid for our new facility, and I'm=20=

moving from an Expression 3 to a 550i and 530i.  I'll start the=20
discussion off.  First, they are both good console systems.  Why switch=20=

from what you know?  Have you been unhappy with the capabilities?  When=20=

forced to contemplate the switch, I took polls at to different LDIs.  I=20=

forget how many production electricians I talked to, but it was between=20=

10 and 15 who had actually run something on ETC and the Strand 500=20
boards.  The Obsession was everyone's favorite console for conventional=20=

fixtures and was everyone's worst nightmare when programming moving=20
lights.  Everyone always wanted a Hog or GrandMA to program the moving=20=

lights.  I asked if they had to pick between the Obsession, Expression,=20=

or Strand 500s, with Hogs and GrandMAs not an option, on a mixed show=20
of conventional and under 20 moving lights, what would they choose?  It=20=

came out about 65% for Strand and 35% ETC (always Expressions).  What=20
would be most helpful, and what I can't remember is the why.  Lighting=20=

designer Stan Pressner has also worked with an electrician who had disk=20=

full of macros that made working with moving lights on the Expression=20
fairly efficient, or at least that seemed to be his experience.  I=20
think very few of the people have equivalent experience on both, which=20=

was always admitted, and much of the problem was syntax glitches=20
bwtween systems.  Couple of things, the Strand is (can be) a fully=20
tracking board.  The Expression can track but unless you make=20
everything LTP (last takes precedence), which is not the default,=20
instead of HTP then it has been almost impossible for me to predict=20
track through results.  Most people consider an Expression a=20
non-tracking board.  If tracking is not a way you like to work, then=20
one of the attractions of the Strand 500s goes away.  I haven't had any=20=

training on the 550i yet, but I have spent about 5 hours at the factory=20=

sitting down with the board and the manual.  First, the Strand manual=20
sucks, even compared to other sucky console manuals.  The online (on=20
the console) help is excellent and almost always available wherever you=20=

are in an operation.  Strand seems to think that the online help=20
mitigates the need for a good manual, but it doesn't.  Apparently the=20
manual was PDF'd (verbing: gerund of the verb "to verb". I digress)=20
from the html pages of the online help; it didn't work out so well,=20
including a lot of missing pages.  Again, Strand online console help=20
excellent, manual bad.  I have found the moving light channel displays=20=

easier to read and more convenient to manipulate on a Strand 550i than=20=

my Expression.  I think I like Expression syntax more, but that might=20
be because I'm use to it.  I like the buttons on the 550.  Ever since I=20=

the 4 years I spent on a Prestige 2000 and a Scene Master 60 I have=20
tended to put quality of buttons and faders high on my list, the=20
Prestige and SM60 had crappy buttons and faders.  I would love to hear=20=

what others like about each console so I can look for those things. =20
What is driving your consideration of a new lighting console, more=20
channels, need tracking, increasing use of moving lights, would like=20
virtual visualization (Emphasis), what?  Strand got our bid based on=20
the supplying of 600 plus dimmers both architectural and theatrical,=20
and the 550 was listed in the bid specs as acceptable.  If you're just=20=

looking at consoles, you might look at a GrandMA.  I have heard a lot=20
of good things about this board especially in mixed environments=20
(wiggle/conventional).  Lastly, any board that can read a LW patch file=20=

or even a tab delimited (text) patch file should be purchased before=20
any others are considered.  I hate being on the road and losing the=20
house ME for an hour to do the patch.

Let's hear more from others.

Sam

Samuel L. Jones
Theater Production Supervisor
Dept. of World Arts and Cultures, UCLA
sjones [at] arts.ucla.edu

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

On Mar 11, 2005, at 9:06 AM, C. Andrew Dunning wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I wouldn't mind this being public - or being CCed in the discussion.
>
> C. Andrew Dunning
> Landru Design
> -
> Nashville, TN
> -
> cad [at] landrudesign.com
> www.landrudesign.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf
>> Of jknipple
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:08 AM
>> To: Stagecraft
>> Subject: 520i
>>
>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
>> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>
>> At the risk of starting another ETC vs Strand thread...
>>
>> Could someone who's switched from an ETC Expression to a 500
>> series Strand board email me off list? We're thinking about
>> switching to a 520i when the new building is completed, so I'm
>> just looking for some thoughts/opinions, both positive and negative.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> James Knipple
>> =A0
>> Technical Director
>> REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage
>> Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College
>> - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts
>> jknipple [at] howardcc.edu
>> 410-772-4451
>>
>>
>
>
>


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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:33:03 GMT
Subject: Re: Peeeeeeps
Message-Id: <20050311.103323.11826.141858 [at] webmail17.lax.untd.com>


Mmmm...As in taking the shielding off and placing it in right in front of a telco or TV dish on an office building roof, with a device created to power it on and off at random intervals? <g>
/s/ Richard


ahh... The things i've done to "someone else's microwave".......
Josh Ratty


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Message-Id: <a0fe6792454b11ac8e8a9ffedbe6b58b [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: LX board monitor compatibility 
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:40:27 -0500

> Our sound guy got a couple of really cheap-o ones for his computerized 
> set-up, and found that they made a bunch of RF noise.  So much in fact 
> that he doesn't use them.  so if yer gonna set your Light Board and 
> Sound Board up in the same area, Be Careful.

Hey Ford.  What post is this in relation to?  I couldn't find an 
original post.  The CD rom tray does work really well for a dowser.  I 
had a slight delay on the open for some reason on the models I used.

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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Message-ID: <20050311184627.70628.qmail [at] web81702.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:46:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Why carry equipment?

Recently I have been asked the same question by
several different people. Why do tours carry their own
light and sound equipment? I have always said that it
is for consistency. So that the tour always has the
same equipment without worrying about what the venue
has.
Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my
experience is from the venue side rather than the tour
side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm
missing when I answer this question.

Mike H

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:50:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Why carry equipment?
From: Steve Larson <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
Message-ID: <BE575296.423C%tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-20688157 [at] prxy.net>

Three venues that I worked for did not have enough
of the instruments they were looking for.  They
also carried better instruments than I had in those
particular venues.

sjl

> From: Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:46:27 -0800 (PST)
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Subject: Why carry equipment?
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Recently I have been asked the same question by
> several different people. Why do tours carry their own
> light and sound equipment? I have always said that it
> is for consistency. So that the tour always has the
> same equipment without worrying about what the venue
> has.
> Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my
> experience is from the venue side rather than the tour
> side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm
> missing when I answer this question.
> 
> Mike H
> 
> 


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Message-Id: <cdfd5f0ef1f4a2a41ed12ab7da1aace8 [at] email.arizona.edu>
Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien)
From: Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: Why carry equipment?
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:04:35 -0700

The short answer is,, you know what you have got.

Many times I have been on shows were the producer (in order to save 
some shipping costs) has used local staging from an unknown source.  
Big Mistake.  Having a deck delayed because of whatever reason, 
increases costs exponentially. OT, pissed off client, you name it.

I did a show a few years ago in Brasil, and I brought everything* from 
the States. I even air freighted Bash boxes of iron & sandbags.  Just 
so we would have everything we needed.

*Two things out of my control, the speaker cabinets, and the Uplink 
contractor, were obtained locally.  One of the speaker's hanging 
hardware failed, (While being checked), and the satellite rig, which 
came out of a VW microbus, took 1 hour extra to get working. This cost 
someone about  $3,000.00 per minute extra.

Go with what you know...

Mark O'Brien
Opera Technical Director
University of Arizona, School of Music
Tucson, AZ
520/621-7025
520/591-1803 Mobile


On Mar 11, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Michael Heinicke wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Recently I have been asked the same question by
> several different people. Why do tours carry their own
> light and sound equipment? I have always said that it
> is for consistency. So that the tour always has the
> same equipment without worrying about what the venue
> has.
> Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my
> experience is from the venue side rather than the tour
> side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm
> missing when I answer this question.
>
> Mike H


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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:06:30 GMT
Subject: Re: PDA's
Message-Id: <20050311.110713.11826.142497 [at] webmail17.lax.untd.com>


At less than $30 each, including software, a cradle for syncing to your desktop, and 'beaming' capacity built in, a Palm 111xe is a good deal if your PDA could be exposed to dropping or other rough treatment.
/s/ Richard


Can't speak for Palms, as I haver never used them.
Nigel Worsley



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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:13:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Why carry equipment?
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE575814.53D8%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-20688157 [at] prxy.net>

on 3/11/05 1:46 PM, Michael Heinicke at mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Recently I have been asked the same question by
> several different people. Why do tours carry their own
> light and sound equipment? I have always said that it
> is for consistency. So that the tour always has the
> same equipment without worrying about what the venue
> has.
> Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my
> experience is from the venue side rather than the tour
> side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm
> missing when I answer this question.
> 
> Mike H


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$



www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride
http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html



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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:19:28 -0500
Subject: Re: PDA's
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE575970.53D9%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-20688800 [at] prxy.net>

on 3/11/05 2:06 PM, ladesigners [at] juno.com at ladesigners [at] juno.com wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> At less than $30 each, including software, a cradle for syncing to your
> desktop, and 'beaming' capacity built in, a Palm 111xe is a good deal if your
> PDA could be exposed to dropping or other rough treatment.
> /s/ Richard
> 
> 
> Can't speak for Palms, as I haver never used them.
> Nigel Worsley
> 
> 


My appt. book/phone book/to do list/ never loses data.  It's paper.
GPS?  If I need to know to that detail where I am, I move.  I figure someone
else might have me in their sights also.

Riding on the subway watching (surreptitiously) the person across the way
furiously stab at his PDA.   Then, after 2 minutes he cries out in anguish
"No.  It can't be.  It's all gone.  Sh*t, Sh*t, Sh*t."

Never had to do that with my spiral bound notebook.

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride
http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html



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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050311110715.057cb600 [at] localhost>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:16:59 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Stage Expo, Stagecraft stickers

I just received 67 Stagecraft stickers for badges.  I don't have the file 
to print any more, so...first come, first served.  :)

Booth 853.  They won't be out, you'll have to ask for them.

----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
fax:  +1 408 356-4659
web:  www.interstellar.com




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From: "Ronnie Thevenot" <rkt [at] ronniethevenot.com>
Subject: RE: PDA's
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:19:35 -0700
Message-ID: <000001c5266f$46893670$6401a8c0 [at] ronnie>
In-Reply-To: <list-20681550 [at] prxy.net>


I also have a Zire and enjoy it a lot. I am almost certain there are
third-party programs to sync with Mac. IT is really nice have a camera =
(even
though it definatly has its flaws) on it because sometimes you need it =
when
you don't expect to.

I use Bluetooth to sync to the PC and it is really nice not having to =
mess
with the cables.

> I am considering acquiring a mid price range personal data =
assistant...=20
> what
> do members of the list recommend.  I would like to be able to link to =
my
> computers, both PC and Mac, do some writing, address book.  Do these=20
> things
> have web access through cell phnes?


I have a Pa1mOne Zire 72 and like it a lot.  I don't have a cell phone, =
but=20
the Zire can connect to the i-net (and mail, etc) via Bluetooth and a=20
Bluetooth phone.  It comes with a lot of pre-configured connections for=20
various popular phones.  Because I'm a masochist, I tried setting up my =
Zire

to surf the net via Bluetooth and my laptop... talk about extreme pain.  =
Too

darn many variables - why did it work yesterday, and not today?  Why =
does it

say my Zire is unavailable?  <sigh>  But I have heard from others that =
the=20
Bluetooth to the phone thing works like a charm.

     -- Jon Ares
Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts
www.hevanet.com/acreative
www.wlhstheatre.org=20




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Subject: RE: Why carry equipment?
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:24:15 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C753 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> The short answer is,, you know what you have got.

There's also something to be said for the consistency involved,
especially lighting-wise.  If you carry your own rig, you don't have to
coninuously tweak cues (as much) for level because the venue doesn't
have exactly what you spec and substituted, or uses a different set of
lamps (HPL vs. HPL-X, for example), or whatever.
=20
> the satellite rig, which came out of a VW microbus

Was it, by any chance, a red VW microbus? <g>

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:44:12 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Why carry equipment?
Message-id: <4231F50C.81B35CCA [at] ithaca.edu>
Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts
References: <list-20688157 [at] prxy.net>

Michael Heinicke wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------- 
> Recently I have been asked the same question by
> several different people. Why do tours carry their own
> light and sound equipment? 
> Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my
> experience is from the venue side rather than the tour
> side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm
> missing when I answer this question.

Not just consistency but speed.  If you carry your own dimmers,
multicable and lights then you have to patch and cue the show just
once.  If you're hanging and circuiting from scratch at every venue
there will always be time taken to wring out the patch, find the wrong
color in each system, etc.

In my time on the road with a small ballet company it became apparent
that we carried our own equipment to allow us to play *anywhere*. 
Small high school in the wilds of Virginia?  Sure!  We'll bring our
own stuff!  

Steve L.

-- 
Stephen C. Litterst
Technical Supervisor
Ithaca College
Dept. of Theatre Arts
607/274-3947
slitterst [at] ithaca.edu

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050311124250.016ed728 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:42:50
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: re: audience signage

>Shown below are the individual signs we use, and we also have signs with 
>various combinations:
>
>Smoke and/or fog effects are used during this performance.

...and my all time favoriite, "This show contains nudity and gunfire".
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-ID: <043201c52674$155f5c00$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco>
From: "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
References: <list-20689579 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: audience signage
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:54:05 -0800

>>Shown below are the individual signs we use, and we also have signs with 
>>various combinations:
> 
> ...and my all time favoriite, "This show contains nudity and gunfire".
> Chris "Chris" Babbie


      Isn't that one shown after 6:00 PM on every American TV channel? 


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:00:51 -0500
From: "Josh Ratty" <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Peeeeeeps
Message-id: <018a01c52675$07ecdd80$a900a8c0 [at] Rattys>
References: <list-20687876 [at] prxy.net>

More like as when people say to me "you can't put metal in a microwave!" I
reply, "Oh, but you can put anything that will fit in a microwave. In fact
if you had a large microwwave you could put a smaller one inside of it." Did
you know that a can of soda set on a table for 1/2 hour and one in a
microwave for the same amount of time will do the exact same thing. NOTHING!
A real let down no doubt. So then people ask "well how do you know the
microwave was working." To which the accurate reply is "well i put a fork in
and it got real hot right away so i'm sure it was working." Never understood
why the would let college students have these things in their room for the
whole year. See we didn't have a TV and if you think about it a microwave
can be kinda like TV. It's got a screen and knobs and can be very
entertaining. But I assure you this is but the tip of the iceberg.

Josh "maybe sterile, maybe not" Ratty
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Peeeeeeps


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Mmmm...As in taking the shielding off and placing it in right in front of
a telco or TV dish on an office building roof, with a device created to
power it on and off at random intervals? <g>
> /s/ Richard
>
>
> ahh... The things i've done to "someone else's microwave".......
> Josh Ratty
>


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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:04:52 -0500
From: "Josh Ratty" <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Why carry equipment?
Message-id: <019201c52675$96bd88c0$a900a8c0 [at] Rattys>
References: <list-20688157 [at] prxy.net>

I know we have a number of custom gobos and templates in a few moving
lights, and it seems to take a bit of time to switch them when an instrument
goes down, I can't imagine having to do that every in and out. If you didn't
have all your own gear I guess you'd have to count on the venue or rent it
and there is certainly more available in some areas of the country than
others, so you could easily be up the creek if you're doing a show in the
middle of no-where.

Josh Ratty
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Heinicke" <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:46 PM
Subject: Why carry equipment?


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Recently I have been asked the same question by
> several different people. Why do tours carry their own
> light and sound equipment? I have always said that it
> is for consistency. So that the tour always has the
> same equipment without worrying about what the venue
> has.
> Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my
> experience is from the venue side rather than the tour
> side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm
> missing when I answer this question.
>
> Mike H


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Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20050311151022.027ef550 [at] pop.lightlink.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:14:02 -0500
From: John Bracewell <jbrace [at] lightlink.com>
Subject: Re: Why carry equipment?
In-Reply-To: <list-20688157 [at] prxy.net>

How many venues can you name that have one Cadac J-type, let alone a J-type 
with a wing.  And frames of line arrays?  Not likely, nor the necessary 
power amps if the speakers are not self-powered.  Or something  like XTA's 
or a Soundweb?  I could go one, but you want a system that you know in 
sound, and you want to be able to set it up quickly.  That happens when the 
shop has prebuilt racks with mult connectors, etc.  From the sound point of 
view, it just makes sense.  Not many venues are going to have all the 
things a show, especially a big show, needs.

-- JLB


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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:27:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh
From: Greg Williams <gwilliams [at] appstate.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-20679424 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <F6CC099C-926B-11D9-9058-0003939E79DE [at] appstate.edu>


On Friday, March 11, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Merel Ray-Pfeifer wrote:

> At the local Target there is a whole section in the Easter asle of
> Peep-mania.  I especially liked the Peep hats.  Yes, it was a peep big
> enough to wear.
>

Er... Merel... maybe big enough for _you_ to wear, and perhaps Dr. D?

-=Greg Williams=-
Support the Long Reach Long Riders & Broadway Cares
www.sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR


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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:52:07 -0500
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Subject: Re: Why carry equipment?
References: <list-20688157 [at] prxy.net>



Michael Heinicke wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Recently I have been asked the same question by
> several different people. Why do tours carry their own
> light and sound equipment? I have always said that it
> is for consistency. So that the tour always has the
> same equipment without worrying about what the venue
> has.
> Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my
> experience is from the venue side rather than the tour
> side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm
> missing when I answer this question.
>
> Mike H

    Speed of setup, known quantities when troubleshooting a
problem, you know that it was working at the last site, you
already have in your spares box the right bulbs, fuses, etc.
    Disadvantages are: truck breaks down or driver gets lost.
( This is, inevitably, the truck that has the rigging gear or the
deck in multitruck shows. ) Paying all the tickets.

    --Dale



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From: "Andy Leviss" <Andy [at] DucksEchoSound.com>
Subject: RE: PDA's
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:54:47 -0500
Organization: Duck's Echo Sound
Message-ID: <001001c52674$2e9e3830$a19afea9 [at] AndyLeviss>
In-reply-to: <list-20688973 [at] prxy.net>

Bill Sapsis wrote:
> Riding on the subway watching (surreptitiously) the person 
> across the way
> furiously stab at his PDA.   Then, after 2 minutes he cries 
> out in anguish
> "No.  It can't be.  It's all gone.  Sh*t, Sh*t, Sh*t."
> 
> Never had to do that with my spiral bound notebook.

Well, that's that guy's own fault for not properly backing up. If my
Palm (Tungsten T2, for those curious) gets stolen, I can rapidly reload
my up-to-date as of that morning backup back onto it from my computer.
If I'm travelling, it's just as easy--if I should for some reason lose
all the data due to a hard reset, I can very easily restore it from the
automated backup that gets saved to my SD card every night while I
sleep. What happens when somebody steals/you lose your notebook? I'm
guessing you don't have two separate up-to-date/nearly so complete
backups of it readily at hand?

Not to mention all the non-planner functions it serves, from giving me
newspapers and magazines to read via Avant Go to eBooks to a calculator
to a rigging calculator to giving me games to play when I'm bored
to...well, you get the idea.

I tried keeping a paper planner, but the thing was so big and bulky that
I never wanted to carry it. Now I've got one barely larger than a pack
of cards that does oh so much more. I'm certainly not going back!

FWIW,
Andy
Grand Poobah, http://OneFromTheRoad.com
Tools, Toys, and Tales for the Theatrical Technician

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Subject: Need info on doing Peter Pan
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:58:05 -0700
Message-ID: <53210209D26CD743BA3DC2A18096732E018BBE [at] STAFFMAIL.cwc.edu>
From: "Gray  Chontelle" <cgray [at] cwc.edu>


Hi!  I am a first time poster, but I've been reading posts for a few
months now. =20

I am hoping I can benefit from your expertise - I am the tech half of a
two person theatre department at a community college in Wyoming.  My
director  wants us to do Peter Pan in the fall.  We have a fly system
but no grid or loft - we only have about 38 feet from floor to the
I-beams supporting our fly system.   I would need to rent the system and
pay for it to be rigged. So question number one is about how much would
that cost? (ballpark)Then, I know there is a "learning curve period"
wherein the actors and fly operators have to work out how the flying
will be done (my director has to understand that he will lose some actor
rehearsal time for this). In your experience, how much time should we
allow for this learning curve? Also, is there anything else you can
think of that I should be alerted to in doing this production? He is
still getting the script (he also wants to do the play version as
opposed to the musical version) so although I haven't read it yet, I am
familiar with the musical version and know the scenery is going to be
demanding and that flying adds a new set of complications. I want to be
sure that if I agree to this show (after reading it), that I am doing it
with my eyes open. For those of you who have done this show - is there
something that you wish you could have known before doing this
production?=20

Thanks for your help! =20
Chontelle Gray=20
Technical Director, Central Wyoming College



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Message-ID: <AE85829C9F38D040A4B63DFBE5A042EA0131095F [at] ucmail6.ad.uc.edu>
From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" <WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU>
Subject: RE: Need info on doing Peter Pan
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:03:17 -0500

Delbert Hall!!! Paging Delbert Hall!!!  Has anyone seen Delbert Hall?

Steve Waxler
Technical Director
College Conservatory of Music
University of Cincinnati

-----Original Message-----
From: Gray Chontelle [mailto:cgray [at] cwc.edu] 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 3:58 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Need info on doing Peter Pan

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------


Hi!  I am a first time poster, but I've been reading posts for a few
months now.  

I am hoping I can benefit from your expertise - I am the tech half of a
two person theatre department at a community college in Wyoming.  My
director  wants us to do Peter Pan in the fall.  We have a fly system
but no grid or loft - we only have about 38 feet from floor to the
I-beams supporting our fly system.   I would need to rent the system and
pay for it to be rigged. So question number one is about how much would
that cost? (ballpark)Then, I know there is a "learning curve period"
wherein the actors and fly operators have to work out how the flying
will be done (my director has to understand that he will lose some actor
rehearsal time for this). In your experience, how much time should we
allow for this learning curve? Also, is there anything else you can
think of that I should be alerted to in doing this production? He is
still getting the script (he also wants to do the play version as
opposed to the musical version) so although I haven't read it yet, I am
familiar with the musical version and know the scenery is going to be
demanding and that flying adds a new set of complications. I want to be
sure that if I agree to this show (after reading it), that I am doing it
with my eyes open. For those of you who have done this show - is there
something that you wish you could have known before doing this
production? 

Thanks for your help!  
Chontelle Gray 
Technical Director, Central Wyoming College


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Message-Id: <s231b3dd.026 [at] mail.millikin.edu>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:05:48 -0600
From: "Merel Ray-Pfeifer" <mraypfeifer [at] mail.millikin.edu>
Subject: Re: Peeps... sigh

HATS    You know on your head.

Head size and height are not the same.

Merel

>>> gwilliams [at] appstate.edu 3/11/2005 2:27:18 PM >>>
For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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On Friday, March 11, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Merel Ray-Pfeifer wrote:

> At the local Target there is a whole section in the Easter asle of
> Peep-mania.  I especially liked the Peep hats.  Yes, it was a peep
big
> enough to wear.
>

Er... Merel... maybe big enough for _you_ to wear, and perhaps Dr. D?

-=Greg Williams=-
Support the Long Reach Long Riders & Broadway Cares
www.sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR 


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Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien)
From: Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: Why carry equipment?
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:09:17 -0700




On Mar 11, 2005, at 12:24 PM, Paul Schreiner wrote:

>> the satellite rig, which came out of a VW microbus
>
> Was it, by any chance, a red VW microbus? <g>



The downlink guy pulled up in a nice van, towing a satellite dish, and 
after we ran his power, he was up in about 15 minutes.

The uplink guy pulled up in a chartreuse microbus  (just kidding about 
the color)  and started pulling parts out to set up the dish. It took 
about two hours, as it looked like he was assembling a barbecue grill.  
I wish I had taken pictures.




Mark O'Brien
Opera Technical Director
University of Arizona, School of Music
Tucson, AZ
520/621-7025
520/591-1803 Mobile


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Message-Id: <cd4f415f816eeb1b4c187b4a281c0b06 [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:17:50 -0500

> Delbert Hall!!! Paging Delbert Hall!!!  Has anyone seen Delbert Hall?
>
> Steve Waxler
> Technical Director

Isn't Tracy Nunally who they should be looking for as per Delbert's 
prior post about selling out... I mean selling the business.  :-)

Seriously check out flyingfx.com and contact them for all your answers.

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <bd.53575349.2f6365f8 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:22:00 EST
Subject: Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan


In a message dated 3/11/05 4:19:28 PM, gbierly [at] dejazzd.com writes:

<< Isn't Tracy Nunally who they should be looking for as per Delbert's 
prior post about selling out... I mean selling the business.  :-)

Seriously check out flyingfx.com and contact them for all your answers.

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS >>

actually it seems Delbert is still in the biz, , as he just completed a Peter 
Pan ( ballet version ) in Atlanta, , 

very best,

Keith Arsenault

IAEG -  International Arts & Entertainment Group 
Tampa, Florida

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Message-ID: <AE85829C9F38D040A4B63DFBE5A042EA0131097D [at] ucmail6.ad.uc.edu>
From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" <WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU>
Subject: RE: Need info on doing Peter Pan
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:24:30 -0500

What can I say, Alzheimer's I forgot.

Steve Waxler
Technical Director
College Conservatory of Music
University of Cincinnati

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Bierly [mailto:gbierly [at] dejazzd.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:18 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

> Delbert Hall!!! Paging Delbert Hall!!!  Has anyone seen Delbert Hall?
>
> Steve Waxler
> Technical Director

Isn't Tracy Nunally who they should be looking for as per Delbert's 
prior post about selling out... I mean selling the business.  :-)

Seriously check out flyingfx.com and contact them for all your answers.

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS

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References: <list-20691038 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <40cc7ee6daeaf51c173f58f88f2d1a92 [at] andrewvance.com>
From: Andrew Vance <andrew [at] andrewvance.com>
Subject: Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:49:29 -0600

Nothing to do with the flying aspect of it, but make sure your audience 
knows that its not the musical version.  My current employer did the 
non-musical version before I arrived here, and I heard many audience 
members were shocked to learn there wouldn't be any singing and it 
wasn't the "Peter Pan" they were expecting.  Don't know if it hurt 
ticket sales or not, but there's still murmurs about why we choose that 
production instead of the "real" one.  Of course, the rights for the 
musical version are tied up with the Cathy Rigby tour, so that's a moot 
point.

I did  "Peter Pan" long, long time ago in my college summerstock days 
and having seen pictures of the scenery from my theatre's production a 
few years ago, I can tell you there's no real difference between the 
size/scale from musical to non.  Its the same story, just no one breaks 
into song randomly.  Foy came in and did the flying for us, though I 
can't tell you what they required or how long their flight 
choreographer worked with the actors.  I think it was three or four 
days start to finish [rigging installation to final rehearsal with the 
Foy guy], but don't quote me.

--

Sincerely,

Andrew Vance
Lighting Designer
www.andrewvance.com


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Message-ID: <BAY104-F276F1DBA3F3FC67CB95575C2530 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-20691038 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Need info on doing Peter Pan
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:27:47 -0500

Boy .... log off for a couple of hours and everyone starts talking about 
you.  While I sold the Hall Associates, I still am very much involved in 
flying and can answer most of Chontelle's questions.

First, 38' feet of height will certanly work for PETER PAN.  Generally 
speaking, PETER PAN uses one track system and three pendulum systems.  The 
PETER PAN ballet that I just finished used two tracks, but John and Michael 
did not fly (Peter, Wendy, and Tinkerbell did, not never more than two of 
them at one time).

The price will depend on the company that you hire and the length of time 
the equipment is needed.  The three companies in the US that can do this for 
you are Flying by Foy (www.flybyfoy.com), Hall Associates Flying Effects 
(www.flyingfx.com), and ZFX Flying Illusions (www.zfxflying.com).  A 
"ballpark price" would probably be in the $4.5 - $5.5K range.  The company 
usually sends someone in for three days.  During this time they install the 
equipment (about 4-5  hours) and train your cast and crew how to fly.  You 
will need at least five good strong operators.  Typically, I like three 
rehearsals with the cast and crew (each rehearsal lasting about 2 - 2.5  
hours) for the musical.  The straight play generally takes less time.    
Hall and ZFX can do technical workshop of the mechanics of flying performers 
for your students.  If that interests you, ask about it.  The additional 
cost is pretty low.  If you or the director has some specific desires for 
the flying, tell the flying effects company early so that they can spec the 
right equipment.

Flying affects the scenery, lights, and costumes.  All the companies should 
send you information to make this easier.  The biggest problem is often with 
designers not providing enough room between the track system and other 
hanging scenery and light.  Be very aware of this.  The more you tell the 
flying effects company what your plans are, the more they will guide you.  
Trust me here, it is a lot easier to solve these problems a month before the 
show opens than to deal with them when someone arrives to install the 
equipment.

If you have any additional questions, just email me and I will answer them.

-Delbert


Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)



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From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Need info on doing Peter Pan
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:04:05 -0800
In-Reply-To: <list-20691526 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000020693671 [at] prxy.net>

And as I recall Foy Inventerprises still does Peter Pan, do they not? doom

-- 
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www.riskit.com   Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry
Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational
Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops    International Secondary Education
Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Greg Bierly
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:18 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Need info on doing Peter Pan

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---------------------------------------------------

> Delbert Hall!!! Paging Delbert Hall!!!  Has anyone seen Delbert Hall?
>
> Steve Waxler
> Technical Director

Isn't Tracy Nunally who they should be looking for as per Delbert's 
prior post about selling out... I mean selling the business.  :-)

Seriously check out flyingfx.com and contact them for all your answers.

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <194.3a77fefa.2f637ecc [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:07:56 EST
Subject: Re: DMX Channels

In a message dated 11/03/05 13:26:36 GMT Standard Time, thad [at] nls.net writes:

> I've got a touring rig for AIDA (which is currently on break until
>  April) that has 13 Revolutions, 60 Apollo SmartColor Scrollers, 2
>  Hazers, and 6 Cyberlight CX units. That eats up pretty much an entire
>  universe in itself, and then I have a second universe controlling my 144
>  dimmers plus about 15 or so house dimmers we end up using for our FOH
>  positions. That translates into using about 8 outputs on two separate
>  rack mounted Optos and a whole lot of DMX cable.
>  
>  Oh, and incase you're curious, I use an Expression 3 linked via MIDI
>  Show Control to a laptop running HOG PC to control my movers.

It seems to me that you are putting more effort into controlling all the 
moving lights, and so on, than you are into the real show lights. The ones which 
allow the audience to see what's going on on the stage, and presenting them 
with good pictures.

If that's what you and your director want, fair enough.

Frank Wood

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:15:59 -0500
Subject: Re: DMX Channels
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BE5790DF.296D%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-20693761 [at] prxy.net>


OH FRANK SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

Your opinions just show your complete ignorance of the tools at your
disposal. Stick to a screw driver the rest of us will use screw guns. (and
have screw drivers for when we need/want them)

Sorry for the shouting folks it's my yearly Rant at Frank.
-H

On 3/11/05 6:07 PM, "FrankWood95 [at] aol.com" <FrankWood95 [at] aol.com> wrote:


> It seems to me that you are putting more effort into controlling all the
> moving lights, and so on, than you are into the real show lights. The ones
> which 
> allow the audience to see what's going on on the stage, and presenting them
> with good pictures.
> 
> If that's what you and your director want, fair enough.
> 
> Frank Wood
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <19c.2ef09309.2f638107 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:17:27 EST
Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU

In a message dated 11/03/05 15:16:11 GMT Standard Time, pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu 
writes:

> > Ouch! What do they do with them all? Brightness, coarse and 
>  > fine pan, tilt, 
>  > zoom, and focus. Colour change makes one more. After that, I 
>  > suppose you're 
>  > into gobo selectors and rotators. But I still can't count twenty.
>  
>  Pan (coarse and fine, 2 channels)
>  Tilt (coarse and fine, 2 channels)
>  Color wheel
>  C/M/Y mix (3 channels, one for each)
>  Static litho selection
>  Rotating litho selection
>  Rotation speed/direction
>  Zoom
>  Focus
>  Iris
>  Effects wheel
>  Frost
>  Shutter
>  Intensity
>  Motor speed
>  Special control (home/shutdown)

It adds up, but the tech must be a nightmare. So many variables. I'm old 
fashioned. All I have to decide on is where it's pointing, and how bright it is.

Primitive, yes, But I think you get better lighting.


Frank Wood

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1de.36f402da.2f638375 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:27:49 EST
Subject: Re: Why carry equipment?

In a message dated 11/03/05 18:47:31 GMT Standard Time, 
mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net writes:

> Recently I have been asked the same question by
>  several different people. Why do tours carry their own
>  light and sound equipment? I have always said that it
>  is for consistency. So that the tour always has the
>  same equipment without worrying about what the venue
>  has.
>  Are there any other good reasons? Since most of my
>  experience is from the venue side rather than the tour
>  side, I'm just curious if there is anything that I'm
>  missing when I answer this question.

I think not. Tours are always working against time. They need to know what 
they will meet, at their get-in. Having to work out how best to use the house 
rig to achieve your design is something of a pain.



Frank Wood

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <fa.eca9ea7.2f63847f [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:32:15 EST
Subject: Re: Why carry equipment?

In a message dated 11/03/05 19:45:10 GMT Standard Time, slitterst [at] ithaca.edu 
writes:

> In my time on the road with a small ballet company it became apparent
>  that we carried our own equipment to allow us to play *anywhere*. 
>  Small high school in the wilds of Virginia?  Sure!  We'll bring our
>  own stuff!  

If, of course, there is an adequate power supply. This is not always true.


Frank Wood

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:30:25 -0600
Subject: Re: Why carry equipment?
From: Greg Persinger <gregpersin [at] comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BE579441.A6D0%gregpersin [at] comcast.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-20694262 [at] prxy.net>


Steve Litterst wrote:

> In my time on the road with a small ballet company it became apparent
>  that we carried our own equipment to allow us to play *anywhere*.
>  Small high school in the wilds of Virginia?  Sure!  We'll bring our
>  own stuff!  

Frank Wood responded:

>If, of course, there is an adequate power supply. This is not always true.

Frank,

I have played in the middle of nowhere where they didn't have power. That's
right, no power! A field with a stage.

We had this company called GE Energy rentals bring in this really cool thing
called a generator. It made electricity for us on the spot.

With enough planning, and sometimes with none, GE, Agrekko, Kohler, Bebe, or
any number of local generator companies can get you up and running.

Yes you are correct you have to know if the power will or won't be adequate,
but there have been several times when we have gotten to the venue and found
out the day of show the power wasn't adequate (usually because of
misinformation from the venue) and made the show happen with a generator.


Greg Persinger
Vivid Illumination

Greg [at] Vividillumination.com

 



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Message-ID: <b7aa280105031116394bdd32f8 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:39:52 -0500
From: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU
In-Reply-To: <list-20693935 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-20693935 [at] prxy.net>

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:17:27 EST, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
<FrankWood95 [at] aol.com> wrote:
> 
> It adds up, but the tech must be a nightmare. So many variables. I'm old
> fashioned. All I have to decide on is where it's pointing, and how bright it is.
> 
> Primitive, yes, But I think you get better lighting.
> 
> Frank Wood
> 

Don't you also need to figure out how far into the salt water to put
the electrodes?

Brian Munroe
brian [at] themunroes.com

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From: "Andy Leviss" <Andy [at] DucksEchoSound.com>
Subject: RE: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:27:24 -0500
Organization: Duck's Echo Sound
Message-ID: <000201c526ab$078113d0$a19afea9 [at] AndyLeviss>
In-Reply-To: <list-20693935 [at] prxy.net>

Frank (who else) wrote, regarding discussion of the ETC Revolution:
> It adds up, but the tech must be a nightmare. So many 
> variables. I'm old 
> fashioned. All I have to decide on is where it's pointing, 
> and how bright it is.
> 
> Primitive, yes, But I think you get better lighting.

<rhetorical>Do you even have the slightest clue what you're talking
about?</rhetorical>

We happen to be discussing the ETC Revolution, which is ETC's new
intelligent Source Four. It uses the same basic optics, the same lamp,
the same everything as the standard Source Four, just automates
everything. It's the SAME EXACT FRICKIN' LIGHTING, just with more
flexibility.

Go back under your bridge, Frank.

--A

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