Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 21080717; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:47:13 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #334 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:01:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #334 1. Re: NFPA Pyro Regs. by "Bll Conner" 2. Re: retensioning handlines by "Bll Conner" 3. Stagecraft list meeting at USITT by "Delbert Hall" 4. Re: Costumers by "Matthew Breton" 5. Wagner + lyrics by Shawn Palmer 6. gmail by Nathan Kahn 7. Summerstock pay (was Re: Costumers) by James Kosmatka 8. Re: gmail by James Kosmatka 9. Children's Museum Light Board by Gregg Carville 10. A Call For Help... by "T.J. Bandla" 11. Re: A Call For Help... by David Marks 12. Re: Children's Museum Light Board by Dale Farmer 13. Re: Children's Museum Light Board by "Tony" 14. Re: Children's Museum Light Board by MissWisc [at] aol.com 15. Re: A Call For Help... by "Mike Rock" 16. Re: gmail by Mat Goebel 17. Re: gmail by Mark O'Brien 18. Rosco Colorizers in MAC 500 by "Rob Carovillano" 19. Re: gmail by "LES LIND" 20. Re: gmail by "John Vink" 21. Re: gmail by "Paul Schreiner" 22. Re: Rosco Colorizers in MAC 500 by Bruce Purdy 23. Re: gmail by "Delbert Hall" 24. Re: Children's Museum Light Board by Greg Persinger 25. Re: gmail by Bruce Purdy 26. Re: Rosco Colorizers in MAC 500 by Herrick Goldman 27. Re: gmail by "Paul Schreiner" 28. Re: gmail by "Jon Ares" 29. Re: gmail by Bruce Purdy 30. Re: gmail by Bruce Purdy 31. Re: gmail by "Tony" 32. Re: gmail by "Joe Golden" 33. Re: gmail by Paul Schreiner 34. Re: gmail by Pat Kight 35. Re: gmail by Brian Munroe 36. Re: Children's Museum Light Board by David Duffy 37. Rechargeables by megironda [at] att.net (Gerry G.) 38. Re: gmail by Nathan Kahn/Look Solutions 39. Re: gmail by Nathan Kahn/Look Solutions 40. Air Compressors by jonares [at] hevanet.com 41. Re: Air Compressors by Dale Farmer 42. Peter Sellars Glyndebourne Magic Flute '90 by "Will Hill" 43. Re: Peter Sellars Glyndebourne Magic Flute '90 by IAEG [at] aol.com 44. Re: Air Compressors by Mike Brubaker 45. PR intern by "Tony Olson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <001a01c52bb5$129ed040$8a01a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bll Conner" From: "Bll Conner" Subject: Re: NFPA Pyro Regs. Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:20:12 -0500 Bruce posts: That's reassuring to know. "the Life Safety Code"; is this yet a different reg. from any of the NFPA codes mentioned so far? Who oversees that one?" The full title is NFPA 101-2003: The Life Safety Code. It is a code, not a standard. Candles are so common it was deemed necessary to include it in he code rather than reference another standard. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001b01c52bb5$12c9b0d0$8a01a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bll Conner" From: "Bll Conner" Subject: Re: retensioning handlines Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:21:39 -0500 Greg posts: "An odd question to add to this. Should you have a person positioned at the floor block to step on the toe plates if they are located remotely from the locking rail? For example if your arbors travel to a pit or if your locking rail is on a catwalk and the floorblocks are at floor level." I have seen rods and pipes in guides - 1 per set - but this seems elaborate and expensive. I believe it is just another reason to reconsider the whole arrangement. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Stagecraft list meeting at USITT Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:43:14 -0500 There will be a gathering of all Stagecraft list members on Friday at 9:00pm in Room 203CD in Toronto. Please come and bring your own "coffee." -Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: Re: Costumers Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:04:08 -0500 >...our staff positions start at $150-$300 (designers being on the higher >end) per >week plus we supply housing for the length of your contract. The pay range >being based on experience ect. While we often say, "It's theatre; we do it for the art, not the money," the fact of the matter is that bills still have to be paid, and frankly, everyone deserves a little money in their pocket at the end of the day. Could you survive on $150 a week outside the theatre? Would you accept a job that paid less than $4.00 an hour -- and doesn't pay overtime if the work-week goes long? That's less than burger-flippers and garbage-can haulers make, and theatre is considered _skilled_ labor. $300 a week is all right if you're a college student landing your first gig; but the expectation -- and, really, the need -- is for a more experienced designer. It would be interested if soemone (with more time than me) went through, say, backstagejobs.com and made a spreadsheet of the various positions and pay scale offered. Unfortunately, this level of pay seems all too common. -- Matt ======== _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ------------------------------ Message-ID: <423AEDFD.8060308 [at] northnet.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:04:29 -0600 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Wagner + lyrics References: In-Reply-To: I don't suppose anyone has the original lyrics for Elsa's Procession to the Cathedral from Lohengrin by Wagner in an electronic format, eh? That and an English translation would be very helpful, and probably much too easy... Why can't I find these when that music is played ALL the time? I am pretty sure the original lyrics are not "Here comes the bride, all dressed in white, slipped on a turtle and down fell her girdle!" Thanks! Shawn Palmer Neenah, WI USA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <77fad32705031807437710dae8 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:43:00 -0500 From: Nathan Kahn Reply-To: Nathan Kahn Subject: gmail A friend of mine recommended gmail (Google's email) as being ideally suited for reading mailing lists. I started using it for the stagecraft mailing list, and I have to agree with him. gmail addresses are available by invitation only. I've been given a number of invitations to pass along to friends. Anyone who'd like one can contact me off-list at nathan.kahn [at] gmail.com and I'll send one to you. http://gmail.google.com/ Nathan/Look Solutions www.looksolutions.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050318161016.75895.qmail [at] web50501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:10:15 -0800 (PST) From: James Kosmatka Subject: Summerstock pay (was Re: Costumers) In-Reply-To: 6667 All of which is why I really had to look outside the theater for relevant experience that will also help in keeping my bills paid. This summer, I'll be a stagehand at a Clear Channel concert venue. My first summerstock gig was $165/week + room&board and that was great when I was being supported by my folks and didn't own a car and wasn't putting myself through college. But now that I'm living the life of a *ahem* responsible adult and have, in my opinion, a stronger work ethic and sense of responsibility as a result, I can't give 70+ hours a week to someone who'll only wind up giving me less than half of a semester's tution. By and large, I think the kinds of people that can accept that pay aren't going to be the kind of people who've seen that kind of action and are capable of performing. Matthew's right. It's not an issue of being "in it for the money", or not being capable of long hours and hard work. We just need to be able to support ourselves. james kosmatka studnet sound designer cleveland state university www.cleveland-theater.com --- Matthew Breton wrote: > >...our staff positions start at $150-$300 > (designers being on the higher > >end) per > >week plus we supply housing for the length of your > contract. The pay range > >being based on experience ect. > > Could you survive on $150 a week outside the > theatre? Would you accept a > job that paid less than $4.00 an hour -- and doesn't > pay overtime if the > work-week goes long? That's less than > burger-flippers and garbage-can > haulers make, and theatre is considered _skilled_ > labor. > > $300 a week is all right if you're a college student > landing your first gig; ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050318161308.27055.qmail [at] web50505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:13:07 -0800 (PST) From: James Kosmatka Subject: Re: gmail In-Reply-To: 6667 I, as well, have gmail invites. 50 of them. E-mail james [at] cleveland-theater.com if you're intested. --- Nathan Kahn wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > A friend of mine recommended gmail (Google's email) > as being ideally > suited for reading mailing lists. I started using > it for the > stagecraft mailing list, and I have to agree with > him. > > gmail addresses are available by invitation only. > I've been given a > number of invitations to pass along to friends. > Anyone who'd like one > can contact me off-list at nathan.kahn [at] gmail.com and > I'll send one to > you. > > http://gmail.google.com/ > > Nathan/Look Solutions > www.looksolutions.com > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <423AFF6F.30205 [at] portlandstage.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:18:55 -0500 From: Gregg Carville Subject: Children's Museum Light Board References: In-Reply-To: I am working on a project with the local Children's Museum. They have a "dress up" theater where kids can wear costumes and put on little skits. They are working on revamping the set-up and have asked me to lend a hand with the lighting rig. The set up is aimed at children 4-8 or so. They have a small proscenium stage (maybe 6' wide, 6' tall, 6' deep) They are planning on putting a few tracks in the back with scenic drops so that the children can swap out the backdrops. (The theme is fairytales - so think Little Red Riding Hood) They have asked for lighting that the children can control from a "booth" This booth has to be portable since the room is used for other things. So I am trying to figure out a solution that will work and provide them with what they need. Currently I am looking at Par 38 Units - Low wattage but enough lighting to throw some color. easy to change the lamps. The fixtures will be mounted in two positions - FOH & 1st Elec. (Big note - the lighting is not really required to actually light the space - the whole room is fluorescents. But ideally the children would get a change to see light in action.) I was thinking of doing 3 or 4 channels FOH (Warm, Cool, Clear, ?) that are 2 fixtures each. 4 channels on the LX for the drops (R, B, G, A) again two fixtures each. The trick is - how do I control them. Looking at small portable theatrical dimmers (The NSI NCM-508 and such) I need a DMX control board. Well I am worried that this board will not last long. Also it would be ideal to have big levers that we can color code and such. Of course they have a very small budget - the number I heard was $500 for all the lighting - I think there is some flexibility if I could find the right package. I have an old two scene preset that I could scavenge, but then I need dimmers that take an analog signal. The dimmers ideally would fit on two 20amp circuits. I imagine I could modify the DMX levers with the handles from the preset - but price is also a factor. Does anyone know of small analog dimmers - anyone have any sitting in the back room? Or do I go the route of getting some sort of Analog-DMX converter - of course that seems a bit silly in terms of $. Any ideas out there? thank you, Gregg Carville ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:20:28 -0500 From: "T.J. Bandla" Reply-To: "T.J. Bandla" Subject: A Call For Help... In-Reply-To: References: Hi everybody. Our school district has found out that it has a massive deficit for next year, & is considering eliminating the trained theatre staff from our 868 seat, 37 lineset proscenium theatre. I'm trying to cull a number of safety articles / anecdotes to present to the school board, in an attempt to show them how dangerous the theatre could be in the hands of untrained personnel. If anyone has some articles / stories / help that you don't mind sharing with me, it could help greatly. Thanks for your help, T.J. Bandla Technical Director Oswego High School Theatre Oswego, NY ------------------------------ Message-ID: <423B0501.4020405 [at] att.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:42:41 -0500 From: David Marks Subject: Re: A Call For Help... References:

In-Reply-To: T.J. Bandla wrote: >I'm trying to cull a number of safety articles / anecdotes to present >to the school board > Quite possibly, the insurance company that insures the facility could be an ally. I'm sure they would be highly interested to know that an area where students are involved with hazardous equipment and fall areas may be unsupervised in the near future. I bet they have some nifty charts and statistics to help bolster your case, not to mention some hefty premium increases if the staff is cut. Dave Marks ------------------------------ Message-ID: <423B05DF.D2DB6CF8 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:46:24 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Children's Museum Light Board References:

Gregg Carville wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I am working on a project with the local Children's Museum. They have a > "dress up" theater where kids can wear costumes and put on little skits. > They are working on revamping the set-up and have asked me to lend a > hand with the lighting rig. The set up is aimed at children 4-8 or so. > > They have a small proscenium stage (maybe 6' wide, 6' tall, 6' deep) > They are planning on putting a few tracks in the back with scenic drops > so that the children can swap out the backdrops. (The theme is > fairytales - so think Little Red Riding Hood) > > They have asked for lighting that the children can control from a > "booth" This booth has to be portable since the room is used for other > things. > > So I am trying to figure out a solution that will work and provide them > with what they need. > > Currently I am looking at Par 38 Units - Low wattage but enough lighting > to throw some color. easy to change the lamps. The fixtures will be > mounted in two positions - FOH & 1st Elec. (Big note - the lighting is > not really required to actually light the space - the whole room is > fluorescents. But ideally the children would get a change to see light > in action.) > > I was thinking of doing 3 or 4 channels FOH (Warm, Cool, Clear, ?) that > are 2 fixtures each. > 4 channels on the LX for the drops (R, B, G, A) again two fixtures each. > > The trick is - how do I control them. Looking at small portable > theatrical dimmers (The NSI NCM-508 and such) I need a DMX control > board. Well I am worried that this board will not last long. Also it > would be ideal to have big levers that we can color code and such. > > Of course they have a very small budget - the number I heard was $500 > for all the lighting - I think there is some flexibility if I could find > the right package. Take a look at some of the DJ lighting stuff. You can find it very cheaply on the used market. Lots of flash and trash effects you can have which the kids will love. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <016301c52bda$de17e520$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References:

Subject: Re: Children's Museum Light Board Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:52:24 -0000 From: "Gregg Carville" > The trick is - how do I control them. Looking at small portable > theatrical dimmers (The NSI NCM-508 and such) I need a DMX control > board. Well I am worried that this board will not last long. Also it > would be ideal to have big levers that we can color code and such. > > Of course they have a very small budget - the number I heard was $500 > for all the lighting - I think there is some flexibility if I could find > the right package. > > I have an old two scene preset that I could scavenge, but then I need > dimmers that take an analog signal. The dimmers ideally would fit on two > 20amp circuits. I imagine I could modify the DMX levers with the handles > from the preset - but price is also a factor. > Ebay is full of stuff like this - look for the disco type stuff, as it tends to be loads cheaper, and not necessarily as high-powered (as you don't need 2kW ccts). G'Luck. Ynot ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:00:08 -0500 From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Subject: Re: Children's Museum Light Board Message-ID: <4D94E90A.40C59F2C.007B9F2A [at] aol.com> I'd second the idea of having only four "sliders" RGB and W. Kids can see how the colors mix and that goes with the educational side of a children's museum. OLd DJ/Discon stuff on non-dim is good too. I would NOT use any kind of lighting instrument (insert your preferred term for that item here) which requires any warm up period or needs a lot of attention/maintenance. I used to teach a at a school that had regular "party" bulbs on differnt circuits... one standard wall switch turned on all the blue, another all the red, another all the green and one with some amber. We were able to do a lot with just that much. Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002301c52bdd$d6c9e6d0$80fea8c0 [at] Fred> From: "Mike Rock" References:

Subject: Re: A Call For Help... Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:13:43 -0600 The problem with that is they might over react and can the whole program. Does they have a strong program or do auditions rarely fill the parts? The more students that get behind it the better. Not only will it affect the tech and actors but the pit musicians and any other departments you borrow talent from, get them to say something. At my high school we have one hell of a booster club. They have been responsible for buying some nice equipment, they get their funds by selling flowers and refreshments at intermission as well as at sporting events and also a few of them make private donations I believe. Besides the money stuff they also have a voice, a loud one. If the space is used for other things besides major events who sets it up? Even if its just turning on a mic and brining in the projection screen the person still needs to know a thing or two. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:17:44 -0800 From: Mat Goebel Reply-To: Mat Goebel Subject: Re: gmail In-Reply-To: References: I also have 50 available. mgoebel [at] gmail.com for those interested. On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:13:07 -0800 (PST), James Kosmatka wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I, as well, have gmail invites. 50 of them. E-mail > james [at] cleveland-theater.com if you're intested. > > --- Nathan Kahn wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > A friend of mine recommended gmail (Google's email) > > as being ideally > > suited for reading mailing lists. I started using > > it for the > > stagecraft mailing list, and I have to agree with > > him. > > > > gmail addresses are available by invitation only. > > I've been given a > > number of invitations to pass along to friends. > > Anyone who'd like one > > can contact me off-list at nathan.kahn [at] gmail.com and > > I'll send one to > > you. > > > > http://gmail.google.com/ > > > > Nathan/Look Solutions > > www.looksolutions.com > > > -- Mat Goebel Cell: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: gmail Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:29:15 -0700 What is this thing about G-mail? As far as I can tell somebody is getting something for getting other people to participate. Is it SPAM? So far, I have not been interested enough to find out, but now that is has surfaced here, I get curious. Besides, I am here in AZ while everyone else is at play in Canada :-( Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Mar 18, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Mat Goebel wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > I also have 50 available. mgoebel [at] gmail.com for those interested. > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:13:07 -0800 (PST), James Kosmatka > wrote: >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> I, as well, have gmail invites. 50 of them. E-mail >> james [at] cleveland-theater.com if you're intested. >> >> --- Nathan Kahn wrote: >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> A friend of mine recommended gmail (Google's email) >>> as being ideally >>> suited for reading mailing lists. I started using >>> it for the >>> stagecraft mailing list, and I have to agree with >>> him. >>> >>> gmail addresses are available by invitation only. >>> I've been given a >>> number of invitations to pass along to friends. >>> Anyone who'd like one >>> can contact me off-list at nathan.kahn [at] gmail.com and >>> I'll send one to >>> you. >>> >>> http://gmail.google.com/ >>> >>> Nathan/Look Solutions >>> www.looksolutions.com >>> >> > > > -- > Mat Goebel > Cell: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:44:14 -0500 From: "Rob Carovillano" Subject: Rosco Colorizers in MAC 500 Message-id: <000201c52be2$1a04e9a0$a8a44481 [at] rcarovil> References: According to Rosco's website their colorizer glass gobos will not work in the MAC 500 for either size or heat considerations. I could have sworn I had seen them used in MAC 500's before. Anyone have any experience with this? Rob Carovillano Technical Director Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University 610-660-1044 rcarovil [at] sju.edu ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:48:14 -0500 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Re: gmail > Besides, I am here in AZ while >everyone else is at play in Canada :-( Mark O'Brien No, not everyone... Les Lind, TD NHS Dramatics Northeastern High School Manchester, PA ------------------------------ From: "John Vink" Subject: RE: gmail Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:49:00 -0700 Message-ID: <001101c52be2$c4250190$6801a8c0 [at] canadiansales> In-Reply-To: Gmail is from Google. It allows you to archive and store all your messages. You can then search all of your messages for content. If you remember seeing a message about an ETC Express console, you could search by "ETC", "Express" or "console". Gmail will show any messages containing these words. It is available by invitation only at this point as Google is just testing it before they make it available to everyone. The people offering it get nothing for sending an invitation out. I think it is extremely useful, John > --------------------------------------------------- > > What is this thing about G-mail? As far as I can tell > somebody is > getting something for getting other people to > participate. Is it SPAM? > > > > > Mark O'Brien > Opera Technical Director > University of Arizona, School of Music > Tucson, AZ > 520/621-7025 > 520/591-1803 Mobile > ------------------------------ Subject: RE: gmail Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:49:45 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C769 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" Cc: mgoebel [at] gmail.com (Mat Goebel) I signed up for it (thanks to Thomas Quinn for the invite) a couple of days ago, and while I'm still using Outlook at work (where it actually meshes so nicely with the IT system they have here it'd be silly to do otherwise), I'm archiving everything for my own purposes on gmail. One issue, though...I have a class of 14 students, all of whom are required as part of the course to sign up on the list and write a paper on a topic presented in discussion here. I'd like to give them the opportunity to sign up for gmail, as students only get a very limited amount of server space to house all their email by IT. But I can't figure out how I can "earn" invites to dole out to them. Can someone clue me in on this? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:53:09 -0500 Subject: Re: Rosco Colorizers in MAC 500 From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > According to Rosco's website their colorizer glass gobos will not work in > the MAC 500 for either size or heat considerations. I could have sworn I > had seen them used in MAC 500's before. Anyone have any experience with > this? Not personally familiar with these, but mayhaps you've seen them used by folks who ignored the heat considerations. Altman 360Qs are rated for up to 750w, but when I arrived they all had 1,000w lamps in them. Sometimes just 'cause folks do things doesn't mean that they should. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: gmail Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:54:00 -0500 I would like to be invited to use gmail. please contact me privately. -Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) >From: James Kosmatka >Reply-To: "Stagecraft" >To: "Stagecraft" >Subject: Re: gmail >Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:13:07 -0800 (PST) > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >I, as well, have gmail invites. 50 of them. E-mail >james [at] cleveland-theater.com if you're intested. > >--- Nathan Kahn wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > A friend of mine recommended gmail (Google's email) > > as being ideally > > suited for reading mailing lists. I started using > > it for the > > stagecraft mailing list, and I have to agree with > > him. > > > > gmail addresses are available by invitation only. > > I've been given a > > number of invitations to pass along to friends. > > Anyone who'd like one > > can contact me off-list at nathan.kahn [at] gmail.com and > > I'll send one to > > you. > > > > http://gmail.google.com/ > > > > Nathan/Look Solutions > > www.looksolutions.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:54:35 -0600 Subject: Re: Children's Museum Light Board From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > I am working on a project with the local Children's Museum Gregg, Look at the Dove Shoebox dimmers. Www.dovesystems.com They are DMX controllable but also have a 0-10V analog port on them as well. Dove makes a couple of analog controllers, one of which is nothing more than a couple of rotary pot's. Chances are good Dove would provide you with the values for these rotary pots and you can build a "console" with big kid friendly levers that actually drive the pots that run the dimmers. Levers pivot point is a shaft with a gear on it. Pot has a gear on it. You would have to find the correct gear ratios to make the pot go all away around with the full throw of the lever but this is probably about the most complicated part of the project. This would keep a real DMX console from getting trashed by the kids as well as keep your costs to that of dimmers, fixtures, and a prop console. I hope this idea helps you. Greg Persinger Vivid Illumination Greg [at] Vividillumination.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:02:37 -0500 Subject: Re: gmail From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Gmail is from Google. It allows you to archive and store all > your messages. You can then search all of your messages for > content. If you remember seeing a message about an ETC Express > console, you could search by "ETC", "Express" or "console". > Gmail will show any messages containing these words. I can do this with Outlook Express. (Searching for ETC does generate a lot of hits for posts with the abbreviation for Et Cetera, however.) So what can Gmail do that I can't do?? Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:04:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Rosco Colorizers in MAC 500 From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Colourizers are too large to even fit in a Mac500. They are A or B size gobos essentially. Some of them are even "3 dimensional" with bumps and stones on them. If they were the right size they would still mess up the mac500's. On 3/18/05 12:44 PM, "Rob Carovillano" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > According to Rosco's website their colorizer glass gobos will not work in > the MAC 500 for either size or heat considerations. I could have sworn I > had seen them used in MAC 500's before. Anyone have any experience with > this? > > Rob Carovillano > Technical Director > Bluett Theatre > Saint Joseph's University > 610-660-1044 > rcarovil [at] sju.edu > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Subject: RE: gmail Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:09:13 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C76A [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > I can do this with Outlook Express. >=20 > So what can Gmail do that I can't do?? I'm really liking the way it arranges conversations (or threads). It automatically arranges messages by subject line, then when you click on that it presents the entire conversation to you on one page (new and old posts included). And unless you get sent really large attachments very frequently, with the 1GB of space you're allowed it means you have your own archives on their server... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001701c52be6$1a8eb640$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: gmail Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:12:53 -0800 > So what can Gmail do that I can't do?? Well, Google maintains the right to push ads on you, based on the content of your email. Lots of mention of ETC products might generate some placed ads from Strand at some point in the future. Non-Gmail users who send email to a Gmail account will have the privelege of having the contents of that email scoured by Google. Fun reading: http://www.google-watch.org/gmail.html http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/GmailLetter.htm http://www.epic.org/privacy/gmail/faq.html ... and lots more... Don't get me wrong - I love Google, but I don't know that I want to surrender my email content to them. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:16:46 -0500 Subject: Re: gmail From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > I'm really liking the way it arranges conversations (or threads). It > automatically arranges messages by subject line, then when you click on > that it presents the entire conversation to you on one page (new and old > posts included). > > And unless you get sent really large attachments very frequently, with > the 1GB of space you're allowed it means you have your own archives on > their server... OK, I'll admit - that does sound cool! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:18:19 -0500 Subject: Re: gmail From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Well, Google maintains the right to push ads on you, based on the content of > your email. OK, That part sounds uncool! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <01b601c52be6$dbc04310$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References: Subject: Re: gmail Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:18:13 -0000 > > Gmail is from Google. It allows you to archive and store all > your messages. You can then search all of your messages for > content. If you remember seeing a message about an ETC Express > console, you could search by "ETC", "Express" or "console". > Gmail will show any messages containing these words. > But I get all that from Outlook...... What's the bonus? ------------------------------ Subject: RE: gmail Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:26:49 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Joe Golden" If the address starts to get spam you know you got harvested from this list. >=20 > But I get all that from Outlook...... >=20 > What's the bonus? >=20 >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:31:01 -0500 From: Paul Schreiner Reply-To: Paul Schreiner Subject: Re: gmail In-Reply-To: References:

> Don't get me wrong - I love Google, but I don't know that I want to > surrender my email content to them. Which is why I would never make paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com my default email address, nor my most used one. But as a tool for this list and others like it, it very well could be invaluable. One other drawback...gmail isn't fully compatible yet with Opera (my browser o' choice). It does, however, work with current versions of Safari, Mozilla, and Firefox. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <423B209C.1030600 [at] peak.org> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:40:28 -0800 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: gmail References: In-Reply-To: Paul Schreiner wrote: >>So what can Gmail do that I can't do?? > I'm really liking the way it arranges conversations (or threads). It > automatically arranges messages by subject line, then when you click on > that it presents the entire conversation to you on one page (new and old > posts included). Mozilla's mail reader can do the same thing, working from whatever e-mail account you happen to have. It also permits fairly sophisticated filtering to weed out spam, etc. -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:57:24 -0500 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: gmail In-Reply-To: References:

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:18:19 -0500, Bruce Purdy wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Well, Google maintains the right to push ads on you, based on the content of > > your email. > > OK, That part sounds uncool! > Actually, I hardly notice the ads. They show up as "sponsored links" on the right hand side of the page, just link "sponsored links" in a google search. I would not use my gmail account for sensitive stuff, nor as my main email address. It is great for managing newslists and groups. Besides, google is not the only email provider that scans messages. If your isp has any type of spam filters, they are scanning your email. Brian Munroe brian [at] themunroes.com bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <423B40D1.5010502 [at] audiovisualdevices.com.au> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 06:57:53 +1000 From: David Duffy Subject: Re: Children's Museum Light Board References:

In-Reply-To: Gregg Carville wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I am working on a project with the local Children's Museum. They have > a "dress up" theater where kids can wear costumes and put on little > skits. They are working on revamping the set-up and have asked me to > lend a hand with the lighting rig. The set up is aimed at children 4-8 > or so. > > They have a small proscenium stage (maybe 6' wide, 6' tall, 6' deep) > They are planning on putting a few tracks in the back with scenic > drops so that the children can swap out the backdrops. (The theme is > fairytales - so think Little Red Riding Hood) > > They have asked for lighting that the children can control from a > "booth" This booth has to be portable since the room is used for other > things. > > So I am trying to figure out a solution that will work and provide > them with what they need. > > Currently I am looking at Par 38 Units - Low wattage but enough > lighting to throw some color. easy to change the lamps. The fixtures > will be mounted in two positions - FOH & 1st Elec. (Big note - the > lighting is not really required to actually light the space - the > whole room is fluorescents. But ideally the children would get a > change to see light in action.) > > I was thinking of doing 3 or 4 channels FOH (Warm, Cool, Clear, ?) > that are 2 fixtures each. > 4 channels on the LX for the drops (R, B, G, A) again two fixtures each. > > The trick is - how do I control them. Looking at small portable > theatrical dimmers (The NSI NCM-508 and such) I need a DMX control > board. Well I am worried that this board will not last long. Also it > would be ideal to have big levers that we can color code and such. > > Of course they have a very small budget - the number I heard was $500 > for all the lighting - I think there is some flexibility if I could > find the right package. I use a bunch of 100W PAR30 cans that are great for this sort of thing. How about an all-in-one dimmer - something like the Jands 4PAK? It has 4 faders, a master and a 4 channel chase. About the only issue there is that you'd want to make it hard to get to the outlets on the rear. David... ------------------------------ From: megironda [at] att.net (Gerry G.) Subject: Rechargeables Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:26:53 +0000 Message-Id: <031820052126.27268.423B479C000AFE0700006A8421603763160E0B02019D07090A03 [at] att.net> Is Cirque using "Ansman" rechargeable batteries? Any experiences with them? Gerry G. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20050318170222.01f3ed10 [at] 212.86.129.164> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:04:40 -0500 From: Nathan Kahn/Look Solutions Subject: Re: gmail In-Reply-To: At 01:09 PM 3/18/2005 -0500, you wrote: >I'm really liking the way it arranges conversations (or threads). It >automatically arranges messages by subject line, then when you click on >that it presents the entire conversation to you on one page (new and old >posts included). This is what I like about it, which is why I posted my initial message, and why I use it for all of my mailing lists now. I don't notice the ads at all . . . Nathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Look Solutions USA, Ltd. 114 W. Third St. Waynesboro, PA 17268 Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 Phone: 1-717-762-7490 Fax: 1-717-762-7366 Company Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com Personal Email: nk [at] looksolutions.com Web: www.looksolutions.com and www.fogspecs.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20050318170612.01f437a0 [at] 212.86.129.164> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:07:39 -0500 From: Nathan Kahn/Look Solutions Subject: Re: gmail In-Reply-To: At 12:49 PM 3/18/2005 -0500, you wrote: >One issue, though...I have a class of 14 students, all of whom are >required as part of the course to sign up on the list and write a paper >on a topic presented in discussion here. I'd like to give them the >opportunity to sign up for gmail, as students only get a very limited >amount of server space to house all their email by IT. But I can't >figure out how I can "earn" invites to dole out to them. Can someone >clue me in on this? You begin using it and they just show up after a while. In my case it was after a week or so. An "Invite A Friend" box on the left-hand side of the screen. Nathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Look Solutions USA, Ltd. 114 W. Third St. Waynesboro, PA 17268 Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 Phone: 1-717-762-7490 Fax: 1-717-762-7366 Company Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com Personal Email: nk [at] looksolutions.com Web: www.looksolutions.com and www.fogspecs.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200503182216.j2IMGUu12505 [at] pop.hevanet.com> From: jonares [at] hevanet.com Subject: Air Compressors Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:31 GMT Question to the wiser... we have a physics lab that is rather new, and pretty much never used, and it is plumbed with compressed air, etc, and since the lab was de-commissioned without ever really being used, I asked if I could have the HUGE air tank and air dryer and compressor for the new scene shop. They said yes, if it's worth it. So here's the scoop: the compressor is a Rogers BG 5L Rotary Screw Compressor, which I have no experience with rotary screw compressors. It's small, but it's hooked up to a 480v 60A service - WOW. Does anyone have any feedback for me? Overkill for a scene shop use? Underkill? I don't think I spec'd any better power service than 240V in the new shop... does it really need 480V? -- Jon Ares ------------------------------ Message-ID: <423B5D5A.8C889A29 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:59:38 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Air Compressors References: jonares [at] hevanet.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Question to the wiser... we have a physics lab that is rather new, > and pretty much never used, and it is plumbed with compressed air, > etc, and since the lab was de-commissioned without ever really being > used, I asked if I could have the HUGE air tank and air dryer and > compressor for the new scene shop. They said yes, if it's worth it. > So here's the scoop: the compressor is a Rogers BG 5L Rotary Screw > Compressor, which I have no experience with rotary screw compressors. > It's small, but it's hooked up to a 480v 60A service - WOW. Does > anyone have any feedback for me? Overkill for a scene shop use? > Underkill? I don't think I spec'd any better power service than 240V > in the new shop... does it really need 480V? Good find. If that is the power the machine calls for, then that's what it calls for. *shrugs* I don't know the particular model, but with that kind of power feed, it's probably a rather large capacity system, which is pretty much great for shop use. ( It may be a high pressure system, which the small physical size sort of implies. ) What do the pressure gauges read? Hundreds of psi or thousands? Have you got any manuals? Manufacturer's website? --Dale ------------------------------ From: "Will Hill" Subject: Peter Sellars Glyndebourne Magic Flute '90 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:44:29 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Frank Wood wrote "There was a notorious production by Peter Sllars of "The Magic Flute" at Glyndebourne some years ago. Sellars being what he is, it was set on and under a Californian freeway. The upper area was lit with a dozen of these screwed to the floor at the front, and by nothing else! For the lower area, the house footlights were used. Three hours odd of solid underlighting! It's fine for an effect, yes. BTW, the LD was one Wolfgang Goebbel. UK Opera houses use him quite a lot. Personally, I usually dislike his designs, although he makes very dramatic pictures." Out from the Shadows . . . Just for the record I believe it was Jim Ingalls who lit Flute at Glyndebourne. Using a bit more than a dozen work lights!! One of the nicest guys you could work with. Knew everyone, and I mean everyone, by their first name and remembered them all a year later. Respect for the memory and the courtesy. Will. ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <97.5b8f4a73.2f6ce3e0 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:09:36 EST Subject: Re: Peter Sellars Glyndebourne Magic Flute '90 In a message dated 3/18/05 8:45:17 PM, willhill [at] globalnet.co.uk writes: << Out from the Shadows . . . Just for the record I believe it was Jim Ingalls who lit Flute at Glyndebourne. Using a bit more than a dozen work lights!! >> Worklights seem to be a recurring theme in Peter Sellars' work, , I saw PERICLES at the old BOSTON SHAKESPEARE COMPANY years ago (before the MY ONE AND ONLY debacle) and a storm at sea scene was lit by a work light hanging from it's 20' or so cord and then being batted frantically about by the "Narrator" behind a soliloquy by Pericles crossing the stormy sea. very simple incredibly effective very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050318224400.03df2ea0 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:53:20 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Air Compressors In-Reply-To: References:

At 05:59 PM 3/18/2005, you wrote: >jonares [at] hevanet.com wrote: > > So here's the scoop: the compressor is a Rogers BG 5L Rotary Screw > > Compressor, which I have no experience with rotary screw compressors. > > It's small, but it's hooked up to a 480v 60A service - WOW. Does Probable manufacturer's website: http://www.knw-series.com/Index.htm Other manufacturers of "rotary screw" air compressors: http://www.thomasregisterdirectory.com/air_compressors/rotary_screw_compressors_0074111_1.html Mike ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003c01c52c3a$a397d850$d716b718 [at] TonyLaptop> Reply-To: "Tony Olson" From: "Tony Olson" Subject: PR intern Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:18:00 -0600 I am forwarding this for Door Off Broadway Dinner Theatre (Located in Door County, WI) Still looking for a PR/Box Office intern and a technical intern for Door Off Broadway. Prefer people who can do the entire 5 months, but willing to consider summer or fall only folks, too. Just trying to get the word out. Each job pays a stipend of $400 plus housing (minus utilities). (Things do improve since some of you interned with us.) Just give them this e-mail address or have them call 715/425-7576. We're gone next week on vacation March 21 - 26, but we will get back ASAP after that since we start May 23rd. Thanks, Jill Tony Olson Tech. Director Theatre for Young Audiences University of Wisconsin- Sheboygan Northern Lights Playhouse ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #334 *****************************