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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #339

 1. Re: 240/120 balancing (Was: Wild Leg & was Boombox suggestions)
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
 2. Re: Surfboard
    by "Robert G. Anderson" <rganderson [at] nctv.com>
 3. Re: Wild Leg (was Re: Boombox suggestions)
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
 4. Re: Wild Leg (was Re: Boombox suggestions)
    by "Mt. Angel Performing Arts" <admin [at] mtangelperformingarts.com>
 5. Re: Email address harvesting
    by "Tony" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
 6. Re: [Show-Control] Stage Expo photos
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
 7. Re: Email address harvesting
    by John McKernon <stagecraft2005 [at] mckernon.com>
 8. Re: ETCP Handbook
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
 9. Bad D-Link
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
10. Re: Ratchet box wrench\spanner
    by Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
11. Re: Boombox suggestions
    by Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
12. Re: Bad D-Link
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
13. Re: ETCP Handbook
    by "Michael Finney" <mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com>
14. Re: 240/120 balancing (Was: Wild Leg & was Boombox suggestions)
    by "Carson Koz Noel at LSFX Co." <LSFXCo [at] cox.net>
15. Re: Ratchet box wrench\spanner
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
16. Re: Email address harvesting
    by "C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
17. Re: Gerber repair
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
18. Re: Ratchet box wrench\spanner
    by "CrewCall" <crewcall [at] tiscali.it>

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1c6.24f29ae7.2f71fe81 [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:04:33 EST
Subject: Re: 240/120 balancing (Was: Wild Leg & was Boombox suggestions)

In a message dated 22/03/05 19:13:59 GMT Standard Time, dale [at] cybercom.net 
writes:

>     This is a much more complex issue and I'm handwaving lots of stuff.
>  As for your bulbs burning out, my experience is that many of the cheap
>  fluorescent fixtures have a rather short half-life, and don't stand up to
>  extremes that they should be designed and built to cope with.  There
>  are also other factors like vibration and ambient temperature that will
>  severely shorten bulb life.

There are tolerances built into the power companies' specifications, around 
the nominal numbers. Plus or minus 5% is not unusual; 10% is possible. This 
means that equipment must be designed to handle these.


Frank Wood

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Message-ID: <010901c52f34$adbd5b00$d1b2a80c [at] 0016599365>
From: "Robert G. Anderson" <rganderson [at] nctv.com>
References: <list-21259674 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Surfboard
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:12:49 -0600

If you go to the following website, you will  find a book that'll tell you
all you ever wanted to know about surfboards......


http://www.transmediapublishing.com/site/pages/otherproducts.html



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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <b9.543ded90.2f72038f [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:26:07 EST
Subject: Re: Wild Leg (was Re: Boombox suggestions)

In a message dated 22/03/05 19:56:10 GMT Standard Time, 
jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes:

> In the USA the neutral is tied to ground both at the "fuse" box and at the 
>  power transformer on the pole.  Our residential mains feed here consists 
of 
>  the two legs (240V between them) and a ground wire, it doesn't even HAVE a 
>  neutral.
>  
>  Due to the center-tapped nature of our power here, you have to be VERY 
sure 
>  your neutral is securely tied to ground.

I pass. This sounds like desperately insanitary engineering, and unsafe, into 
the bargain. Maybe not. Maybe you have learnt to live with it, But I still 
like to know the PD between a live cable and the neutral. Within tolerances,  In 
Uk numbers,  I expect 230V +/- 5%.



Frank Wood

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From: "Mt. Angel Performing Arts" <admin [at] mtangelperformingarts.com>
References: <list-21261341 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Wild Leg (was Re: Boombox suggestions)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:44:55 -0800


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <FrankWood95 [at] aol.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: Wild Leg (was Re: Boombox suggestions)


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> In a message dated 22/03/05 19:56:10 GMT Standard Time,
> jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes:
>
> > In the USA the neutral is tied to ground both at the "fuse" box and at
the
> >  power transformer on the pole.  Our residential mains feed here
consists
> of
> >  the two legs (240V between them) and a ground wire, it doesn't even
HAVE a
> >  neutral.
> >
> >  Due to the center-tapped nature of our power here, you have to be VERY
> sure
> >  your neutral is securely tied to ground.
>
> I pass. This sounds like desperately insanitary engineering, and unsafe,
into
> the bargain. Maybe not. Maybe you have learnt to live with it, But I still
> like to know the PD between a live cable and the neutral. Within
tolerances,  In
> Uk numbers,  I expect 230V +/- 5%.
>
>
>
> Frank Wood

Point of clarification:

The neutral is the GROUNDED conductor, but the GROUND is the GROUNDING
conductor.

A single phase USA service is 120 -0 -120 to ground, with the neutral
connected to ground at the pole and one place at the service entrance.  The
power company supplies the two 'hot' legs and the neutral, we create a
ground at our service entrance or service disconnect by making an earth
ground and bonding it to the neutral.

We run separated neutral and ground to all outlets - the neutral is a
current carrying conductor (if the main legs are unbalanced, the neutral
carries the difference) but the Grounding conductor (either a separate wire
in a  cable or the raceway in a metallic system) carries only fault current.

Carla



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Message-ID: <004b01c52f3b$7e916180$0800000a [at] Tony>
From: "Tony" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
Cc: ish [at] twcny.rr.com
References: <list-21260884 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Email address harvesting
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:01:36 -0000


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ish [at] twcny.rr.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: Email address harvesting


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I'm a Community Theater Actor/Director by night - Computer Security
Engineer by day...
>
> Many of these viruses/worms out there try to hide which of your friends
are REALLY infected.  So they grab the victim's address book, internet cache
and a number of other places.  Then they send infected payload from one
address it has found - to another address that it has found.  So the actual
infected person's email address never appears on the email (so recipients
can't reply to the actually infected person and warn them.)
>
> Since it grabs every email address it can find (inculding bad ones, even
from pages the victim surfed to that are in the internet cache) the virus
often bounces, but if it was forged to come from YOU... then you get the
bounced message.
>
> Spammers also use this trick to send out mass emails in your name (once
they have harvested it, which yes under CAN-SPAM is against the law) rather
than their own address (back to that hiding from the law thing again)  and
they cause LOTS of bounces.
>
>
Yup.
As I have e-mail addresses on our theatre web site, I tend to get a HUGE
amount of spam generated as a result (most of which is caught by the Yahoo
filters, however). Because of the way the domain is set up, if you were to
send anything to anything at abbeytheatre dot co dot uk, it would end up in
my in-box. I get quite a few messages from end-servers and spam-traps
telling me that something like dotty-lottie at abbeytheatre etc has been
spiked from their 'acceptable sender' lists, and please stop spamming them!

Ynot



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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050323013827.016ede40 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:38:27
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Show-Control] Stage Expo photos

>I'm getting nothing.  
>"Operation timed out when trying to contact www.jdurand.no-ip.org"

Nevermind... I got it next time I went after it.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:42:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Email address harvesting
From: John McKernon <stagecraft2005 [at] mckernon.com>
Message-ID: <BE6625B4.12847%stagecraft2005 [at] mckernon.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21261813 [at] prxy.net>

> As I have e-mail addresses on our theatre web site, I tend to get a HUGE
> amount of spam generated as a result (most of which is caught by the Yahoo
> filters, however).

That's how john [at] mckernon.com got ruined - it was exposed in clear text on my
web site for a couple of months. Now I use a graphic picture of the email
address, and that's kept most of my current email addresses safe, even
without spam filters.

- John


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050323014227.016ede40 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:42:27
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: ETCP Handbook

> Bill 
>Sapsis replied that there was not and even I would not be 
>disenfranchised if I qualified. ;)

This is why they decided to go with the small font.  No matter what your
age, you won't be descriminated against, but if you can't see the
handbook...   
For those of you with a less than stellar sense of humor, this is a joke.
This is only a joke.  Had this been an actual situation, you would have
been told where to go and what color handbasket you'd be in.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050322171236.029f8120 [at] localhost>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:13:57 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Bad D-Link

The D-Link router crashed again, so it goes back for refund.  I just got a 
new Belkin "pre-N" router with 3 diversity antennas for the wireless 
part.  Cost more, looks nice.  I'll be down for a bit while installing it.

----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
fax:  +1 408 356-4659
web:  www.interstellar.com




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Message-ID: <b7aa28010503221719dc3c60c [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:19:36 -0800
From: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ratchet box wrench\spanner
In-Reply-To: <list-21260690 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21255997 [at] prxy.net> <list-21257089 [at] prxy.net>
	 <list-21257889 [at] prxy.net> <list-21260690 [at] prxy.net>

Ian, that is indeed an interesting catalogue.

But admit it, you guys are just making words up over there in the UK. 
BTW, here is something that I have seen in my travels around the
states, but never seen in a catalogue before:
http://www.flints.co.uk/acatalog/Cleats__Clutches___Rope_Locks.html

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:43:41 -0000, Ian Cunningham
<mailinglist [at] techie.f9.co.uk> wrote:
<Snip>
> Not cheap but its a quality tool that you'll find hard to break. - their
> podgers are damn near indestructable
> 
> Flints catalogue is a goldmine of useful theatrical gubbins

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe [at] gmail.com

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Message-ID: <b7aa280105032217397e20a114 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:39:13 -0800
From: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Boombox suggestions
In-Reply-To: <list-21250610 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21250610 [at] prxy.net>

Apparently a had a flash of dyslexia, because I was sitting here
trying to figure out how a BOX-BOOM could play mp3s. :)

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe [at] gmail.com

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Message-ID: <BAY104-F15197F47584CF7D49C5781C24F0 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-21262821 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Bad D-Link
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:15:46 -0500

Jerry - I have had a Belkin Pre-N router since Christmas - I LOVE IT. Very 
fast, incredible distance, excellent security, and not too difficult to 
install and configure.  I have had zero problems since installing mine.  I 
think you will like it too.

-Delbert

Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)


>
>The D-Link router crashed again, so it goes back for refund.  I just got a 
>new Belkin "pre-N" router with 3 diversity antennas for the wireless part.  
>Cost more, looks nice.  I'll be down for a bit while installing it.



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Subject: Re: ETCP Handbook
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:07:35 -0800
Message-ID: <AE704B0123616D4BBE8BD0A464A0FD290CF77D [at] ESERVER.mail.local>
From: "Michael Finney" <mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com>

On  Tue, 22 Mar 2005 Bill Sapsis wrote (in response to a post from Peter
Scheu):


<<Peter has the right of it folks.  This is a beginning.  The Council is
indeed investigating other certifications and certificates.  (I can
speak with authority on this as I sit on that Council)  As the industry
grows and it's needs grow, so will the programs.>>

What Bill said!  A couple of other admittedly biased thoughts (I'm on
the council with Bill):

One of the other areas that ESTA is working on is a "body of knowledge"
for an essential skills qualification for entry level entertainment
technicians.  I think this is a good example of how they've been
addressing the reality that our industry has a wide variety of people
working in a wide variety of areas with a wide variety of skill sets and
experience. =20

I think most of us can agree that there's a certain level of experience,
knowledge and skill that is required to function at an entry level in
any area of our industry.  There's yet *another* level of experience,
skill, and knowledge that is required to advance and work safely at a
higher level - especially in any number of specialties.  Eventually, you
reach a level where an individual can be safely assumed to assume a
leadership role in working in his or her specialty anywhere, any time.


In my personal opinion, there's an advantage to both employers and
employees to identify those different levels in some fashion.  Again
speaking personally, I think that ESTA made an excellent choice in
identifying overhead rigging as a prime situation where identifying and
certifying those individuals with the knowledge, skill, and experience
to perform a high risk task at the highest levels was warranted.  As an
employer, there is going to be a real advantage to me to know that an
individual that I'm considering for a particular position where this
skill is required has been examined by an independent body and found to
be fully qualified in that specialty.  It certainly will make my lawyer
and insurer happy.  I'm not saying that it's going to be an "absolute"
situation - there are certainly people out there that I know are
unquestionably qualified riggers who may or may not be certified when I
need them - but I'd hope they would make the effort to qualify as an
ESTA Certified Rigger in the future.  It can only be an advantage to
both them and me.

As Peter said, I'd encourage anybody with an interest in this on-going
process to check in on the ESTA website.  I think the whole process
shows a level of commitment to the development of our particular branch
of the industry (a development under *our* control, rather than some
outside agency) that is to be commended, encouraged, and supported.

Putting the soapbox back in the Knack box....

Michael Finney
Thinkwell Design & Production
mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com
www.thinkwelldesign.com



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Message-ID: <001101c52f56$14c03180$0501a8c0 [at] Kozmain1>
Reply-To: "Carson Koz Noel at LSFX Co." <LSFXCo [at] cox.net>
From: "Carson Koz Noel at LSFX Co." <LSFXCo [at] cox.net>
References: <list-21261340 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: 240/120 balancing (Was: Wild Leg & was Boombox suggestions)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:12:00 -0700
Organization: LSFX Co.

The wild leg is a high volt leg from a "delta phase" wound transformer.  It
is used in an industrial application specifically for motors and HVAC.  The
high leg is primarily for the starter and brake section of the motor.  Some
older elevators also use this electrical configuration.  The higher voltage
allows the motor to start and stop better under load.

To quote Mr. Wolpert again...  Like the bumper sticker says "WIRING IS NOT A
HOBBY"

Carson "Koz" Noel, III
Light and Sound FX Co. / LSFX
5832 E. Camden Street
Tucson, AZ  85712


Koz [at] LSFXCo.com
www.LSFXCo.com


Phone - 520.419.4529
Fax - 520.296.9751


*** This communication is intended solely for the person or entity to which
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Message-Id: <bb3fc341fbbab5431d62c2afdb0c1a62 [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Ratchet box wrench\spanner
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:27:00 -0500

> here is something that I have seen in my travels around the
> states, but never seen in a catalogue before:
> http://www.flints.co.uk/acatalog/Cleats__Clutches___Rope_Locks.html
> Brian Munroe

That is what we have been referring to as a rope lock or an "uncle 
buddy".  I don't think I have ever seen one for sale.  Every one I have 
see has been homemade.


Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:12:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Email address harvesting
From: "C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
Message-ID: <BE667306.172F3%brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21261340 [at] prxy.net>

Frank Wood writes:

> There are other strange things which happen occasionally, too. I sometimes
> get bounce messages, with the usual 'this address has permanent fatal errors'.
> The trouble is, IT'S MY OWN ADDRESS! I don't send e-mail to myself, So I'm
> baffled. Any thoughts?


Karma, Frank.


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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:52:27 -1000
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Gerber repair
Message-id: <000b01c52f7d$43c81250$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p>
References: <list-21261340 [at] prxy.net>

<<Just to keep the list informed about my ongoing situation with Gerber
concerning warranty repair on my Gerber Evolution multitool...

As of this date, I have heard nothing.>>

Upon writing to them yesterday, I received an immediate reply (and apology
for not informing me of their receipt of the knives) that Gerber is"in the
process of accommodating your service requests."

Laters,

Paul

I also must most humbly apologize to the list for omitting the traditional
"Tom Swiftie" from my post yesterday.  I don't know what came over me...  I
shall do my best to prevent future omissions.

Here's two:

"They are not answering - we'd better try the knocker," said Tom adoringly.

"It's half a score," Tom said often.


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Message-ID: <002901c52f8d$3e2b3380$0100a8c0 [at] tricia>
From: "CrewCall" <crewcall [at] tiscali.it>
References: <list-21255997 [at] prxy.net> <list-21257089 [at] prxy.net> <list-21257889 [at] prxy.net> <list-21260690 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Ratchet box wrench\spanner
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:46:52 -0000


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ian Cunningham" <mailinglist [at] techie.f9.co.uk>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Ratchet box wrench\spanner


|
| You're looking for a quad spanner and you can get them from Flints
in London
|
|
http://www.flints.co.uk/acatalog/Flints_Online__Quad_Spanner_108.html
|
| has 13mm (M8), 17mm (M10) ,19mm (M12) and 21mm (scaff)
|
| Not cheap but its a quality tool that you'll find hard to break. -
their
| podgers are damn near indestructable
|
| Flints catalogue is a goldmine of useful theatrical gubbins
|
|  Ian Cunningham
| Solus Technical Services
|
|

Thanks Ian,
Now why did I not think of Flints!
Most tool don't break just grow legs and walk out of the loading bay.
Now all I have to do is find some one to pay for the replacement :))

Chris



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