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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #341

 1. Re: Where can I access the archives and a Marley question
    by Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
 2. Re: Rigging Software
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
 3. Re: Rigging Software
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
 4. Marley Scuff Marks
    by Cosmo Catalano <Cosmo.A.Catalano [at] williams.edu>
 5. Re: Marley Scuff Marks
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
 6. Re: Marley Scuff Marks
    by Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
 7. Re: ETCP Certification and School Points
    by zhamm [at] email.unc.edu
 8. Laptop Battery (OT)
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
 9. Re: plotters
    by Joseph Lott <stagecraft [at] healylott.com>
10. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
11. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
12. Re: Temporary US curtain ideas needed
    by "John Penisten" <john [at] fullcompass.com>
13. Re: Plotters
    by "Tom Hackman" <hackman [at] davisandelkins.edu>
14. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by Adam Fitchett <adam [at] fitchtech.net>
15. Re: plotters
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
16. Re: Marley Scuff Marks
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
17. Distribution of Neutrals and It could be worse :-)
    by kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu
18. Re: Delta power
    by "Karl G. Ruling" <kruling [at] esta.org>
19. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" <WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU>
20. Re: Rigging Software
    by Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
21. Re: Rigging Software
    by "Scheu Consulting Services" <peter [at] scheuconsulting.com>
22. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
23. Re: plotters
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
24. Re: list gathering
    by "Alex M. Postpischil" <apost [at] olemiss.edu>
25. Re: Rigging Software
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
26. Re: Rigging Software
    by Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
27. Re: speaking of rigging (drafting standards?)
    by "Alex M. Postpischil" <apost [at] olemiss.edu>
28. Bouncy mail
    by Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
29. Re: Bouncy mail
    by Boyd Ostroff <ostroff [at] operaphilly.com>
30. Re: Bouncy mail
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
31. Re: Bouncy mail
    by Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
32. Re: speaking of rigging (drafting standards?)
    by "Scheu Consulting Services" <peter [at] scheuconsulting.com>
33. Re: speaking of rigging (drafting standards?)
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
34. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
35. rigging spreadsheet
    by "Alex M. Postpischil" <apost [at] olemiss.edu>
36. Re: Rigging Software
    by "Joe Golden" <Joe [at] elslights.com>
37. Re: Distribution of Neutrals and It could be worse :-)
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
38. Stage Directions magazine OT
    by "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
39. Stage Directions magazine OT
    by "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
40. Somewhat delicate reference question
    by "Jeremiah Minh Greenblatt" <roadhat [at] earthlink.net>
41. Re: Stage Directions magazine OT
    by Carrie DePetris <cd [at] fivesevenfive.org>
42. Re: Delta power
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
43. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
44. Re: Rigging Software
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
45. Trimming
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
46. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
47. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
48. Re: rigging spreadsheet
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
49. Re: rigging spreadsheet
    by Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
50. Re: Rechargeables
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
51. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by David Marks <davidmarks [at] att.net>
52. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
53. Re: Bouncy mail
    by Barney Simon <barney [at] josephchansen.com>
54. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by "Kevin A. Patrick" <patrick_kevin [at] colstate.edu>
55. French humor
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
56. Re: ETCP Handbook
    by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com
57. Re: French humor
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
58. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by "Joe Golden" <Joe [at] elslights.com>
59. Re: Stage Directions magazine OT
    by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
60. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
61. Is there a list problem or is it a people problem?
    by Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
62. Seeking rental drop for _Drood_
    by "Peter Lerohl" <Peter.Lerohl [at] ridgewater.edu>
63. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by "Kevin A. Patrick" <patrick_kevin [at] colstate.edu>
64. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
65. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by Chad Smith <sfxsmith [at] gmail.com>
66. Re: Stage Directions magazine OT
    by Gion DeFrancesco <defranga [at] po.muohio.edu>
67. Re: Rigging Software
    by Chad Smith <sfxsmith [at] gmail.com>
68. Re: Stage Directions magazine OT
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
69. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
70. Angoff Method (not OT but sure might look like it)
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
71. Re: speaking of rigging (drafting standards?)
    by Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
72. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by David Marks <davidmarks [at] att.net>
73. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
74. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
75. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
76. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
77. Handheld Cell Phone Jammer
    by "Bryan H. Ackler" <backler [at] ix.netcom.com>

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Message-ID: <424251DB.2010102 [at] sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:36:27 -0600
From: Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Where can I access the archives and a Marley question
References: <list-21277703 [at] prxy.net> <list-21302259 [at] prxy.net> <list-21303301 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21303301 [at] prxy.net>

Brian Munroe wrote:

> Ammonia is not recommended for vinyl floors.  This is from
> flooradvice.com: "What should I clean my floor with?

I don't know about other floors, but Harlequin actually recommends an 
ammonia based cleaner for their floors. I don't have the paperwork here, 
but I'll check what it says when I get to work tomorrow.

Mike H

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Message-ID: <BAY104-F3692C55F565824D32EA33DC2400 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-21310256 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rigging Software
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:35:55 -0500

Bruce,

Good observation.  I am running Windows XP Professional - no problems.

Michael?????

-Delbert


Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)


>
>
> > I do not get a date.  I sent Michael a copy of the file that I 
>downloaded to
> > see if it is a different version, (mine is V1.0 copyright 1999) but I 
>have
> > not heard back from him.  Maybe we will get this figured out soon.
>
>Mine is also V1.0 1999, and as I said, I do have the date format issue.
>
>     I don't know whether it is part of the problem, but I am on a Mac. How
>about you, Michael and Delbert?
>
>     Is it possible that the format shows up as a date on Macs but not on
>WinTel? Just a thought.
>
>Bruce
>--
>Bruce Purdy
>Technical Director
>Smith Opera House
>
>



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Message-ID: <BAY104-F3546C3CFA84C6D7C2E007CC2400 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-21311075 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rigging Software
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 07:08:10 -0500

I have run this spreadsheet on three computers (one with Office for XP and 
two with Office 2003). I do not get this formatting problem on any of my 
computers.

-Delbert

Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)



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Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 07:11:51 -0500
From: Cosmo Catalano <Cosmo.A.Catalano [at] williams.edu>
Subject: Marley Scuff Marks
In-reply-to: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <fd0c006bf71e1a620d83537f6d5f8cf5 [at] williams.edu>
References: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>

I have it from a reputable source (many years at a major dance venue) 
that brake fluid is the scuff remover of choice at his theater.  Not 
exactly non-toxic, but you could find worse things to work with in your 
flammables cabinet.

I have yet to try this solution myself.


Cosmo


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Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 07:24:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Marley Scuff Marks
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE681BB2.5B68%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21331663 [at] prxy.net>

on 3/24/05 7:11 AM, Cosmo Catalano at Cosmo.A.Catalano [at] williams.edu wrote:

> I have yet to try this solution myself.


Chicken....

Bill S.

www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride
http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html



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Message-ID: <4242C0B2.2090401 [at] fuse.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:29:22 -0500
From: Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Marley Scuff Marks
References: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net> <list-21331663 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21331663 [at] prxy.net>

Cosmo Catalano wrote:

> I have it from a reputable source (many years at a major dance venue) 
> that brake fluid is the scuff remover of choice at his theater.  Not 
> exactly non-toxic, but you could find worse things to work with in your 
> flammables cabinet.

If brake fluid works, it might be worth trying crisco.

It works great for getting tar and creosote and similar 
black goo off people.  (A trick my mom learned from an old 
power co. lineman after her kid came home covered with tar 
one day)

Stuart


------------------------------

Message-ID: <20050324083913.pbev8i4i8ckwgkkc [at] webmail3.isis.unc.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:39:13 -0500
From: zhamm [at] email.unc.edu
Subject: Re:ETCP Certification and School Points
References: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>

Take it easy, it took some of us a little longer to come over to the dark
side.  I was a double major in Art and Architectural Studies (not even true
architecture) and concentrated in ceramics.  Too bad I can't get any points
along the way for having built kilns. Oh well.
Zach Hamm
PlayMakers Repertory Company


---------------------------
>
> Message-ID: <20050323210444.97858.qmail [at] web81707.mail.yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:04:43 -0800 (PST)
> From: Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: ETCP Certification (was:ETCP Handbook)
> In-Reply-To: 6667
>
> --- Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com> wrote:
>> > BTW, my boss is grumpy that his undergrad and grad
>> > degrees earn him fewer points than my undergrad in
>> > entertainment technology. :)
>>
>>
>> Score one for the good guys!
>
> That's what he gets for wanting to be an actor as well
> as a technician!
>
> Mike H
>
> ------------------------------



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Message-ID: <BAY104-F41CD4D1627C5696E14B1D3C2400 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-21300654 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Laptop Battery (OT)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:44:51 -0500

The battery on my Dell Latitude C-810 is about dead and needs replacing.  
The original battery is 14.8V  - 3800mAh.  In looking for replacements on 
the web, I have discovered that 14.4V - 3600mAh batteries are about $25-$35 
cheaper than 14.8V  - 3800 (or 4,000) mAh batteries.  My question is, will 
the voltage difference cause any problems?  Is the higher capacity worth the 
extra money?  Thanks.

-Delbert

Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)



------------------------------

Message-ID: <4242CB54.8090402 [at] healylott.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:14:44 -0500
From: Joseph Lott <stagecraft [at] healylott.com>
Subject: Re: plotters
References: <list-21300866 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21300866 [at] prxy.net>

>Clare Adams wrote:
>We bought a DesignJet 450C plotter a couple of years ago, and it's been
>very reliable.
>
>Carla wrote:
>We have an HP 500PS 42" and it's been very reliable
>
>Richard wrote:
>
>We bought a NEW 4 cartridge DesignJet 100 [...]


Any experiences with non-HP models? Epson seems to be the other major 
manufacturer. Anyone know what the difference between their Ultrachrome 
and Photographic Dye inks are?


Thanks again,
Joe


------------------------------

Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
From: "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
Subject: RE: Laptop Battery (OT)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:27:24 -0500
Organization: Home of the RC4 Wireless Dimmer System
In-Reply-To: <list-21335933 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20050324142728.DMO1919.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866>

> The battery on my Dell Latitude C-810 is about dead and needs 
> replacing.  
> The original battery is 14.8V  - 3800mAh.  In looking for 
> replacements on the web, I have discovered that 14.4V - 
> 3600mAh batteries are about $25-$35 cheaper than 14.8V  - 
> 3800 (or 4,000) mAh batteries.  My question is, will the 
> voltage difference cause any problems?  Is the higher 
> capacity worth the extra money?  Thanks.

Any idea about the chemistry of these various batteries, old and new?
Whatever type you have, you'll need to buy the same to ensure your charger
will work with it.  In any case, I doubt you'll see any significant
difference as a result of that 0.4V variation.  More important is that the
new one will fit in your computer and work with your existing charger/power
supply.

A single NiMH cell can produce up to 1.35V, though 1.2V is typical, same as
NiCad.  Presuming your laptop battery is made up of 12 cells, you're talking
about the difference between 1.2V and 1.233V per cell.

A Lithium Ion cell is typically 3.6V, so we could be talking about 4 cells
for 14.4V.

Jim
 
Visit www.theatrewireless.com for more information about the RC4 Wireless
Dimming System.
 



------------------------------

Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
From: "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
Subject: RE: Laptop Battery (OT)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:28:25 -0500
Organization: Home of the RC4 Wireless Dimmer System
In-Reply-To: <list-21335933 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20050324142837.EFE1919.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866>

> The battery on my Dell Latitude C-810 is about dead and needs 
> replacing.  
> The original battery is 14.8V  - 3800mAh.  In looking for 
> replacements on the web, I have discovered that 14.4V - 
> 3600mAh batteries are about $25-$35 cheaper than 14.8V  - 
> 3800 (or 4,000) mAh batteries.  My question is, will the 
> voltage difference cause any problems?  Is the higher 
> capacity worth the extra money?  Thanks.

Any idea about the chemistry of these various batteries, old and new?
Whatever type you have, you'll need to buy the same to ensure your charger
will work with it.  In any case, I doubt you'll see any significant
difference as a result of that 0.4V variation.  More important is that the
new one will fit in your computer and work with your existing charger/power
supply.

A single NiMH cell can produce up to 1.35V, though 1.2V is typical, same as
NiCad.  Presuming your laptop battery is made up of 12 cells, you're talking
about the difference between 1.2V and 1.233V per cell.

A Lithium Ion cell is typically 3.6V, so we could be talking about 4 cells
for 14.4V.

Jim
 
Visit www.theatrewireless.com for more information about the RC4 Wireless
Dimming System.
 



------------------------------

Message-ID: <4242D111.1040903 [at] fullcompass.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:39:13 -0600
From: "John Penisten" <john [at] fullcompass.com>
Subject: Re:Temporary US curtain ideas needed
References: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>


Kristi wrote:

I'm looking for suggestions for an inexpensive, reasonably light weight=20
fabric (?)  for either single use or something that could be put up and
taken down=20
each year.

And:

this
is=20
at Holy Cross

To which I reply:

Would pipe and drape panels work for you? Just clip the panels together.
Is this the Holy Cross in Madison?  If so I just might know where you 
could find a sweetheart deal on the drapes, and I would probably even 
deliver for free as that is on my way home.

Let me know if I can help,
John

-- 
John Penisten
Full Compass Systems
Rental, Production, Design
http://www.fullcompass.com
Phone: 800-356-5844 Ext. 1355
Fax: 608-831-6330

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Message-ID: <008e01c5307f$567cda90$87d11ed8 [at] Hackman1>
From: "Tom Hackman" <hackman [at] davisandelkins.edu>
References: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: re:Plotters
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:39:51 -0500

Joe,
I have used two HP 500ps models, 24 and 42 inch, and I have really liked
both. I currently have a 24 behind my desk. I opted for the none networked
version, but have used a networked one and I would be happy with either. My
dept., very small, uses it for all drafting, publicity and the occasional
scenery or prop piece.

Tom Hackman
TD/Scene Designer
Davis & Elkins College
Elkins, WV
304-637-1353

------------------------------


From: Joseph Lott <stagecraft [at] healylott.com>
Subject: plotters


I have looked through the HP DesignJets, and either the 500 or 800 looks
about right. Any specific suggestions, or failing that, favorite
models/brands?




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Message-ID: <4242D261.6050008 [at] fitchtech.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:44:49 -0500
From: Adam Fitchett <adam [at] fitchtech.net>
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
References: <list-21335933 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21335933 [at] prxy.net>

When my Dell battery took a dive a month or so ago, I found a good deal 
at http://www.pacificbattery.com/dell.html They were cheaper then dell 
and carried an 18 month warranty. No problems with mine. As far as 
capacity, I always go for the larger one to squeeze out that extra use 
time.

Delbert Hall wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> The battery on my Dell Latitude C-810 is about dead and needs 
> replacing.  The original battery is 14.8V  - 3800mAh.  In looking for 
> replacements on the web, I have discovered that 14.4V - 3600mAh 
> batteries are about $25-$35 cheaper than 14.8V  - 3800 (or 4,000) mAh 
> batteries.  My question is, will the voltage difference cause any 
> problems?  Is the higher capacity worth the extra money?  Thanks.
>
> -Delbert
>
> Delbert L. Hall
> 423-773-HALL (4255)
>
>
>


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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:49:53 GMT
Subject: Re: plotters
Message-Id: <20050324.064957.2331.48978 [at] webmail28.lax.untd.com>


If you take off the cases, you will find a REMARKABLE similarity between the guts of HP and Epson printers. I think that it is more than a coincidence... <g>
/s/ Richard


>Clare Adams wrote:
>We bought a DesignJet 450C plotter a couple of years ago, and it's been very reliable.
>
>Carla wrote:
>We have an HP 500PS 42" and it's been very reliable
>
>Richard wrote:
>We bought a NEW 4 cartridge DesignJet 100 [...]


Any experiences with non-HP models? Epson seems to be the other major 
manufacturer. Anyone know what the difference between their Ultrachrome and Photographic Dye inks are?

Thanks again,
Joe



------------------------------

From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:58:33 GMT
Subject: Re: Marley Scuff Marks
Message-Id: <20050324.065927.2331.49141 [at] webmail28.lax.untd.com>


It seems that you would be displacing one petroleum distillate by one with a different viscosity, just as WD-40 displaces water.
/s/ Richard


Cosmo Catalano wrote:

> I have it from a reputable source (many years at a major dance venue) that brake fluid is the scuff remover of choice at his theater.  Not exactly non-toxic, but you could find worse things to work with in your flammables cabinet.

If brake fluid works, it might be worth trying crisco.
It works great for getting tar and creosote and similar 
black goo off people.  (A trick my mom learned from an old 
power co. lineman after her kid came home covered with tar 
one day)

Stuart



------------------------------

Message-ID: <1111674723.4242cf633aad5 [at] webmail.plattsburgh.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:32:03 -0500
From: kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu
Subject: Distribution of Neutrals and It could be worse :-)
References: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>

Frank's description of power distribution in the UK is interesting.  One thing 
I have never been sure about in the US is where the neutrals get added in the 
distribution network.  I was under the impression that there are no neutrals 
provided by the power company in three phase distribution and only the center-
tap neutral in domestic distribution.  Is this correct?

Is four wire star referred to by Frank 3 phase and neutral? 

It could be worse, it wasn't that long ago that stage electricians in the US 
had to deal with DC distribution as well, thank you Tharon Muser :-) but I 
wonder if there are any interesting DC stories out there?

Kim Hartshorn

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From: "Karl G. Ruling" <kruling [at] esta.org>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:53:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Delta power
Reply-to: kruling [at] esta.org
Message-ID: <42429C1D.30177.6A6EE3 [at] localhost>
In-reply-to: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>

Frank Wood wrote:

> I thought that it would be that. Over here, delta stops at the
> sub-station. From there on, it's four-wire star.

Not everywhere over there. In the south of France I noted that the 
power distribution in one village had three wires on the poles 
running down the road. Wires A & B went to the first house. B & C 
went to the second. C & A went to the third. A & B went to the 
fourth, and so on. That sure looked like delta distribution to me. 

Where or how this system was ground-referenced it, I don't know. It 
must have been ground-referenced somewhere, or else those wires 
running elevated on the poles could have assumed any potentional at 
all in reference to ground because of atmospheric conditions. Perhaps 
the output of the substation was 4-wire star with the commmon 
centerpoint earthed. That would satisfy the need for a ground 
reference. However, the load distribution I saw was definitely delta, 
with no earthed neutral going to the loads. 
 
Power distribution would be much simpler if we could get rid of the 
earth or the atmosphere. ;-)



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Message-ID: <AE85829C9F38D040A4B63DFBE5A042EA0122D9AE [at] ucmail6.ad.uc.edu>
From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" <WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU>
Subject: RE: Laptop Battery (OT)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:58:20 -0500

Talk to the people at Batteries Plus if you have one around where you are.
I have found them to be very helpful and knowledgeable

Steve Waxler
 
Technical Director
College Conservatory of Music
University of Cincinnati
  (513) 556-3709

-----Original Message-----
From: Delbert Hall [mailto:flyingfx [at] hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:45 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Laptop Battery (OT)

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

The battery on my Dell Latitude C-810 is about dead and needs replacing.  
The original battery is 14.8V  - 3800mAh.  In looking for replacements on 
the web, I have discovered that 14.4V - 3600mAh batteries are about $25-$35 
cheaper than 14.8V  - 3800 (or 4,000) mAh batteries.  My question is, will 
the voltage difference cause any problems?  Is the higher capacity worth the

extra money?  Thanks.

-Delbert

Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)


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Message-ID: <20050324160938.73024.qmail [at] web81703.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:09:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Rigging Software
In-Reply-To: 6667

--- Delbert Hall <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> Bruce,
> 
> Good observation.  I am running Windows XP
> Professional - no problems.
> 
> Michael?????
> 
> -Delbert

I am running Excel 2002 on this computer. I tried the
file that Delbert sent me, with the same results. So
it would seem to be something with the way my software
is configured. I'll check at home tonight to see if I
have a different version or if it might be more
friendly to the spreadsheet.

Mike H

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Reply-To: <peter [at] scheuconsulting.com>
From: "Scheu Consulting Services" <peter [at] scheuconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: Rigging Software
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:41:45 -0500
Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <001501c53090$5e0cd3d0$c9fea8c0 [at] ROXY>
In-reply-to: <list-21340395 [at] prxy.net>

I'm running Excel 2002 with WinXP Pro and I, too, am having the same date
vs. absolute value cell format problem.

Peter Scheu

Scheu Consulting Services, Inc.
www.scheuconsulting.com
Tel: 315.422.9984
fax: 413.513.4966


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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050324084156.03470518 [at] localhost>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:46:31 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
In-Reply-To: <list-21335933 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21300654 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-21335933 [at] prxy.net>

At 05:44 AM 3/24/2005, you wrote:

>The battery on my Dell Latitude C-810 is about dead and needs replacing.
>The original battery is 14.8V  - 3800mAh.  In looking for replacements on 
>the web, I have discovered that 14.4V - 3600mAh batteries are about 
>$25-$35 cheaper than 14.8V  - 3800 (or 4,000) mAh batteries.  My question 
>is, will the voltage difference cause any problems?  Is the higher 
>capacity worth the extra money?  Thanks.


If the replacement battery says it's for your model, it will >probably< 
work.  The slight voltage difference and A-h capacity shouldn't make a big 
difference.  The biggest problem with after-market batteries for computers 
and cell phones is when they cut corners by leaving out safety 
circuitry.  Buy a reputable brand.

There's such a problem with cell phone batteries exploding that many (and 
soon most) phones and computers will check for a security chip in the 
battery and won't power up with after-market ones at all.



----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
fax:  +1 408 356-4659
web:  www.interstellar.com




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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050324084819.0349a4b8 [at] localhost>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:50:53 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: plotters
In-Reply-To: <list-21336950 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21300866 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-21336950 [at] prxy.net>

At 06:14 AM 3/24/2005, you wrote:
>Any experiences with non-HP models? Epson seems to be the other major 
>manufacturer. Anyone know what the difference between their Ultrachrome 
>and Photographic Dye inks are?

We have an Epson Color 1520 24" wide inkjet that we wore out (the 
mechanical parts started rattling and missing their mark).  Great printer 
for not a lot of money (I think this was about $500 at 
www.centralcomputer.com ).  We don't do that much in color anymore so we 
decided to just have the local Office Depot print our large-format 
stuff.  Something like 8 cents a page for B&W makes it not worth getting a 
new printer.


----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
fax:  +1 408 356-4659
web:  www.interstellar.com




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From: "Alex M. Postpischil" <apost [at] olemiss.edu>
Subject: Re: list gathering
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:04:15 -0600
Message-ID: <000a01c53093$827f8c50$ba1e4a82 [at] DHKQYC31>
In-Reply-To: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>

>Alex,
>How come I was able to get to both activities?  I think you were just 
>slacking. :)  I had the peeps with me at the Armadillo, too.  

Slacking? Please!!!! After show call at UW a trip to the Black Bear (now
gone) was mandatory - when they saw us walk in the door they started
filling the pitchers and gave us bar towels to clean up after ourselves!
Sorry, but beer wins over peeps anytime! ...besides I hadn't eaten all
day and wanted more than a sugar high to get me through the night!


-alex-

Alex M. Postpischil, Technical Director
Department of Theatre Arts
University of Mississippi
University, MS 38677
662.915.6993
662.915.5968 - fax 


------------------------------

Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:09:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Rigging Software
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE685E6E.5B99%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21341055 [at] prxy.net>

on 3/24/05 11:41 AM, Scheu Consulting Services at peter [at] scheuconsulting.com
wrote:

> I'm running Excel 2002 with WinXP Pro and I, too, am having the same date
> vs. absolute value cell format problem.


I'm not running any of those programs.  I do the math longhand and I'm done
that job and have moved on to another project.

This is EXACTLY why I stress that you learn the math.  Do not rely on the
computer program.  Too many times I've seen guys scratching their heads
because they left their laptop at the hotel and they hadn't a clue how to do
the math on paper.

And the number of times the computer was wrong, for whatever reason???
Don't get me started.

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride
http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html





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In-Reply-To: <list-21341521 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21341521 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <49eba5644204818eb5c39b8cc1a99f62 [at] email.arizona.edu>
Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien)
From: Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: Rigging Software
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:11:07 -0700





On Mar 24, 2005, at 10:09 AM, Bill Sapsis wrote:

> And the number of times the computer was wrong, for whatever reason???
> Don't get me started.
>

Uhh,

Looks like we just did.


Mark O'Brien
Opera Technical Director
University of Arizona, School of Music
Tucson, AZ
520/621-7025
520/591-1803 Mobile


------------------------------

From: "Alex M. Postpischil" <apost [at] olemiss.edu>
Subject: RE: speaking of rigging (drafting standards?)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:11:42 -0600
Message-ID: <000b01c53094$8d3aa110$ba1e4a82 [at] DHKQYC31>
In-Reply-To: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>


Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:24:36 -0500
Subject: Re: speaking of rigging (drafting standards?)
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>

on 3/23/05 11:34 AM, Alex M. Postpischil at apost [at] olemiss.edu wrote:

>> At one of the sessions at USITT I asked if there were any standards
used
>> in drafting to donate various types of rigging, points, motors,
motion
>> control devices, etc. The response was that nothing seems to have
>> evolved. Is this the general consensus of the list? If so, should we
>> embark on the task of trying to standardize symbols and notation for
>> drafting? I'm also asking this because I'm getting to the point in my
>> drafting class that I need to mention that aspect of drafting...

>The Rigging Working Group, of which yours truly is the chair, is the
most
>prolific group in the standards program.  And we're always looking for
>more.
>If you have something you think merits a standard, bring it to my
attention
>and I can run it by the group.  I should warn you, however, that if you
>bring it up it's pretty much expected that you will become the task
group
>leader to write that standard.  And *that* will require you to join the
>Rigging Working Group, show up to meetings (at least 4 a year), vote on
>stuff, do homework and all that jazz.  Just because it's a volunteer
>organization does not mean that it's a free ride.  We have a lot of fun
at
>these meetings but they are indeed a lot of work.
>
>Bill S
---------------------------------


Bill, et al-
I'm really just curious about drafting standards (symbols, line weights,
etc) - whether there are any, whether we need any, what other people do,
etc. While I wouldn't mind spearheading this type of thing (if needed),
the meetings would have to be somewhere local or funded by someone other
than me or my department!!

-alex-

Alex M. Postpischil, Technical Director
Department of Theatre Arts
University of Mississippi
University, MS 38677
662.915.6993
662.915.5968 - fax 



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In-Reply-To: <list-21341521 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21341521 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <c55a0820d51743dc8ef323c31431eac4 [at] email.arizona.edu>
Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien)
From: Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Subject: Bouncy mail
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:13:55 -0700

I just got this message from the list, for whatever reason.

This is an automated message from the theatrical.net list manager.

Stagecraft <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net> messages sent to
your address <marko [at] email.arizona.edu> have bounced.
Since you are reading this message, your mail system is probably fixed.


I followed the directions, and I am back.

Q:  Why does this happen,

Q: When I went to the archive for todays messages, I get nothing.   Why?



Just curious..




Mark O'Brien
Opera Technical Director
University of Arizona, School of Music
Tucson, AZ
520/621-7025
520/591-1803 Mobile


------------------------------

Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:16:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Boyd Ostroff <ostroff [at] operaphilly.com>
Subject: Re: Bouncy mail
In-Reply-To: <list-21341687 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0503241215110.8123 [at] maestro.operaphilly.com>
References: <list-21341521 [at] prxy.net> <list-21341687 [at] prxy.net>

Yeah, I got it too - and have been getting it on a pretty regular basis, 
like once a week. I suppose it's possible that our mail server goes 
offline from time to time, but I don't know of anyone else getting bounces 
when they send me e-mail. If our sever is offline then mail should be 
spooled at our ISP anyway.

| Boyd Ostroff
| Director of Design and Technology
| Opera Company of Philadelphia
| http://tech.operaphilly.com
| ostroff [at] operaphilly.com


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Subject: RE: Bouncy mail
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:24:30 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C77F [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> Yeah, I got it too - and have been getting it on a pretty=20
> regular basis,=20
> like once a week.=20

And here I thought it was just us...

------------------------------

Message-ID: <4242F89B.1090408 [at] peak.org>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:27:55 -0800
From: Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
Subject: Re: Bouncy mail
References: <list-21341521 [at] prxy.net> <list-21341687 [at] prxy.net> <list-21341784 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21341784 [at] prxy.net>

Boyd Ostroff wrote:


> Yeah, I got it too - and have been getting it on a pretty regular basis, 
> like once a week. I suppose it's possible that our mail server goes 
> offline from time to time, but I don't know of anyone else getting 
> bounces when they send me e-mail. If our sever is offline then mail 
> should be spooled at our ISP anyway.
> 
> | Boyd Ostroff
> | Director of Design and Technology
> | Opera Company of Philadelphia
> | http://tech.operaphilly.com
> | ostroff [at] operaphilly.com
> 
> 
You might want to check to see if your ISP has beefed up its server-side 
spam protection lately. Mine did, and for a time their filters were 
blocking *all* messages originating with e-mail lists, which bounced the 
messages back to the senders. They had to do some tweaking of the 
filters to let the good stuff through while still keeping out the stuff 
originating from spam lists.

-- 
Pat Kight
Albany (Ore.) Civic Theater
kightp [at] peak.org

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Reply-To: <peter [at] scheuconsulting.com>
From: "Scheu Consulting Services" <peter [at] scheuconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: speaking of rigging (drafting standards?)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:29:33 -0500
Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <001b01c53097$0bb4f250$c9fea8c0 [at] ROXY>
In-reply-to: <list-21341633 [at] prxy.net>

Alex M. Postpischil wrote:

>I'm really just curious about drafting standards (symbols, 
>line weights,
>etc) - whether there are any, whether we need any, what other 
>people do, etc.

There are existing ANSI and ISO standards CAD "drafting", but I'm afraid I
don't know the exact numbers. Drafting standards vary between disciplines
(i.e. mechanical engineering, electrical, Architectural, etc.). Very rare
that I have seen these standards followed in our industry (maybe except for
electrical schematics put out by the big lighting companies). Hell, most of
the Architect's I deal with do it any way they please.

Drafting "for the theatre" is often stylized and sometimes approached as an
extension of the artistic expression of the designer (especially before the
advent of CAD). Getting everyone in our industry to follow one set of rigid
standards would be nearly impossible (IMHO).

Peter Scheu

Scheu Consulting Services, Inc.
www.scheuconsulting.com
Tel: 315.422.9984
fax: 413.513.4966


------------------------------

Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:36:30 -0500
Subject: Re: speaking of rigging (drafting standards?)
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE6864CE.5BA5%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21341633 [at] prxy.net>

on 3/24/05 12:11 PM, Alex M. Postpischil at apost [at] olemiss.edu wrote:

> I'm really just curious about drafting standards (symbols, line weights,
> etc) - whether there are any, whether we need any, what other people do,
> etc. While I wouldn't mind spearheading this type of thing (if needed),
> the meetings would have to be somewhere local or funded by someone other
> than me or my department!!


Yeah, I agree.  That's the hard part.  The 'regular' meetings are held 4
times a year.  One each at LDI and USITT.  Then there's 2 more meetings held
in Dallas.  One in January and one in July.  (We tend to not go outside much
during the July meetings.)

ESTA gets a nice break on the hotel rooms for us, but we pay our own way.
Airfare, meals, hotel..whatever.

And then there would be the task group meetings.  These tend to take place
in conjunction with the above schedule, but they do add a day or two to the
hotel bill.  And, of course, there are the conference calls and e-mails ad-
nauseum.

Getting a clear picture?  It's a lot of work.  Extremely rewarding and
satisfying...no doubt about it.....but it ain't for the lazy or faint of
wallet.

zat help?

Bill S.

www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride
http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html



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Message-ID: <BAY104-F12625DBD5166D372143751C2400 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-21341135 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:41:59 -0500

Pacific Battery is a little more expensive than some of the other places on 
the web, but they claim that they sell genuine Dell batteries (the specs do 
match exactly with what I have), and they will not charge me shipping.  I 
also like the high capacity Dell battery that they sell.  I feel pretty good 
about this company and battery.  Thanks to whomever recommended them.

-Delbert

Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)



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From: "Alex M. Postpischil" <apost [at] olemiss.edu>
Subject: rigging spreadsheet
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:48:11 -0600
Message-ID: <001f01c53099$a5da8be0$ba1e4a82 [at] DHKQYC31>

I just tried the D/d ratio worksheet and it did what I expected:
-if you enter the Nominal Diameter of Wire Rope (B4) as a fraction (1/8)
it translates the data to a date (08-Jan). However, if you enter it as a
decimal (.125) it was fine.***

***Note that I entered the decimal first, then tried the fraction. All
entries after entering the fraction were translated to a date (even the
decimals). So, when you first open the spreadsheet enter only
decimals!!!

-alex-

Alex M. Postpischil, Technical Director
Department of Theatre Arts
University of Mississippi
University, MS 38677
662.915.6993
662.915.5968 - fax 



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Subject: RE: Rigging Software
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:51:56 -0800
Message-ID: <FCDE18CF571244479E0A078AE596BADC9A812A [at] ftp.elslights.com>
From: "Joe Golden" <Joe [at] elslights.com>

I am running Windows 2000 with Excel 2000 and I am getting the error
also.

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <d8.22c95daf.2f745b34 [at] aol.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:04:36 EST
Subject: Re: Distribution of Neutrals and It could be worse :-)

In a message dated 24/03/05 15:12:58 GMT Standard Time, 
kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu writes:

> Is four wire star referred to by Frank 3 phase and neutral? 

Indeed it is. Three phase legs, each 230V to neutral.

The power comes to the sub-station as three-phase delta, at 11KV. The 
sub-station is a delta-star transformer, which reduces the voltage to the normal 
level, and establishes the neutral, which is grounded there.


Frank Wood

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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
From: "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
Subject: Stage Directions magazine OT
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:04:12 -0500
Organization: Home of the RC4 Wireless Dimmer System
In-Reply-To: <list-21342417 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20050324180417.QSEG1836.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866>

It's my turn for an OT post...

Do any of you regularly read Stage Directions magazine?  What do you think
of it?  

The ad rep really wants to sell me space, claiming that they reach the
academic theatre market like no other.  Is this true?

Jim


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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
From: "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" <stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com>
Subject: Stage Directions magazine OT
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:07:00 -0500
Organization: Home of the RC4 Wireless Dimmer System
In-Reply-To: <list-21342417 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20050324180706.QTDL1836.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866>

It's my turn for an OT post...

Do any of you regularly read Stage Directions magazine?  What do you think
of it?  

The ad rep really wants to sell me space, claiming that they reach the
academic theatre market like no other.  Is this true?

Jim


------------------------------

From: "Jeremiah Minh Greenblatt" <roadhat [at] earthlink.net>
Subject: Somewhat delicate reference question
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:12:46 -0500
Message-ID: <000c01c5309d$15165130$0300a8c0 [at] Roadbox>

Folks:
=A0
I have recently parted ways with the company for whom I have worked
exclusively for the past four years. While the official reason for my
dismissal was =93a fiscally necessary restructuring,=94 it has been =
strongly
suggested to me by my former supervisor that the organization will not
respond enthusiastically to any reference requests I might send their =
way.
The bad blood between me and this company need not be discussed =
publicly;
rather, my question for this list is this: How do people handle such
situations when looking for new work? I certainly do not want to list a
reference that will not speak well of my work but nor do I think it wise =
to
approach a job-search without listing my most recent long-term employer. =
I
am obviously worried about presenting a resume with such a glaring =
time-gap
but also do not want to be forced to ignore the skills and experience I
acquired on this job.=20
=A0
I would be happy to discuss the issues associated with my dismissal with =
a
prospective employer but I am not entirely sure how to appropriately =
broach
the subject. If anyone has incite into this situation (either from the
employer or employee perspective) I would be grateful for your thoughts.
=A0
Please note that I am decidedly NOT trying to open a public debate on =
the
merits/ethics of my specific former employer. The fact that some on this
list know my previous title is unavoidable in this context.
=A0
Thanks.
=A0
- J.Minh




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Message-ID: <424305A2.1090808 [at] fivesevenfive.org>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:23:30 -0500
From: Carrie DePetris <cd [at] fivesevenfive.org>
Subject: Re: Stage Directions magazine OT
References: <list-21342758 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21342758 [at] prxy.net>

Stage Directions is one of the publications our theater subscribes to. 
We're a student run theater at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, which 
doesn't have an academic theater department, but instead is comprised of 
incredibly dedicated and talented individuals. Being at a technical 
college, Stage Directions interests us due to the production and design 
aspects of it. The students are in charge of all purchasing and 
executive decisions, so in that regard we're always keeping an eye out 
for products and services we might be interested in.

I'd say go for it, Jim- I'm a fan of the magazine.

Carrie

--
Carrie DePetris
Secretary/Historian, RPI Players
http://www.players.rpi.edu/


jsmith at theatrewireless.com said the following on 3/24/2005 1:07 PM:

>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>It's my turn for an OT post...
>
>Do any of you regularly read Stage Directions magazine?  What do you think
>of it?  
>
>The ad rep really wants to sell me space, claiming that they reach the
>academic theatre market like no other.  Is this true?
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>  
>


------------------------------

From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <a1.5b4bbe6e.2f74601f [at] aol.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:25:35 EST
Subject: Re: Delta power

In a message dated 24/03/05 15:53:39 GMT Standard Time, kruling [at] esta.org 
writes:

> Not everywhere over there. In the south of France I noted that the 
>  power distribution in one village had three wires on the poles 
>  running down the road. Wires A & B went to the first house. B & C 
>  went to the second. C & A went to the third. A & B went to the 
>  fourth, and so on. That sure looked like delta distribution to me. 

French electricity can be odd. My own house had a three-phase supply, because 
there are two big (6KW and 3KW) storage heaters. Also, you provide your own 
earth, usually a spike in the cellar. I have a funny story about that. I was 
making fish soup in a friend's house, and each time I dropped a fish into the 
pot, it bit me.

It was, obviously, an electric cooker. The whole installation was well and 
neatly carried out, with one exception. NO earth spike! All the earths were 
properly bonded and distributed, just not connected to ground.

Also, French electricity supplies are current limited, both in the house and 
in the street. When the above friend moved in, he didn't know this. The first 
time he cooked dinner, he took out the whole street! If I use all four rings 
on the cooker, and the oven, I will trip my local breaker.

I have a little book on French wiring, somewhere. I'll dig it out, and post 
again, if it seems worthwhile.


Frank Wood

------------------------------

From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:30:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
Message-Id: <20050324.103135.27628.52317 [at] webmail33.lax.untd.com>


Dear Jerry,
These kind of chips have caused a multitude of legal problems. Major printer manufacturers have hid behind the Millennium Copyright Act in their attempts to suppress the use of less expensive replacement ink cartridges from other manufacturers by installing these chips in their own replacement cartridges. This has made the Millennium Copyright Act into the "Intellectual Property Attorney Full Employment Act". <g> The end user suffers, as always, without a corresponding societal benefit, as there is no unique intellectual property being protected, and developers such as yourself get nothing except more overhead costs. The 'State of the Art' is not promoted by these chips. There are other ways to effectuate battery safety (overcurrent protection, thermal sensors, etc) without resorting to such anti-competitive draconian measures. The regulation of Reverse Engineering is not the goal here.
/s/ Richard




There's such a problem with cell phone batteries exploding that many (and soon most) phones and computers will check for a security chip in the battery and won't power up with after-market ones at all.
Jerry Durand


------------------------------

From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <62.517754a3.2f7461fa [at] aol.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:33:30 EST
Subject: Re: Rigging Software

In a message dated 24/03/05 17:07:26 GMT Standard Time, 
bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com writes:

> This is EXACTLY why I stress that you learn the math.  Do not rely on the
>  computer program.  Too many times I've seen guys scratching their heads
>  because they left their laptop at the hotel and they hadn't a clue how to 
do
>  the math on paper.

I know exactly what you mean. I took a degree in Physics in the days before 
pocket calculators and computers. All we had was windy-windy handle calculators 
(let's be honest, and call them 'adding machines' ), and slide rules. Both 
worked. I still have, and use, a slide rule.


Frank Wood

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050324193745.016f1620 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:37:45
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Trimming

OK, so maybe there are some noobs that haven't heard the numerous requests,
and maybe there are some that have forgotten, and maybe there are some that
just aren't alert enough on a regular basis to catch the subtle sarcasm
that usually ensues when there are just too many folk on the list that
haven't really read the posting guidelines, even though the request is made
very politely under "What this list is for".  That request counts as one
time being politely asked.   I'd like as many responses as you care to make
as to what constitutes enough polite requests, and when can I let loose
with the purple prose of humiliation and degradation.  'Coz you know I want
too.
Trim your replies.  All it takes is for you to highlight the part of the
post that you are NOT responding to and hit the delete key.  Just that.
Like, ferinstance:

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Name Removed
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:XX PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Subject removed

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------) 

 ...and 

Original Posters Name
Original Posters Company Name
1243 Poster S
State and City and Zip


Original Posters e-mail addy (? we have that, we got the mail, didn't we?)
Original Poster's Website addy


Phone 
Fax 
Cell 
Birthstone
favorite color
favorite food
turn-ons 

+++++
And, just to make it fun a lillte note saying that this isn't the
communication that his employer would have him make and so holds no
responsibility, or that it was checked by PowZOOM anti-virus and its clean,
or that this was intended for the recipient and if you ain't him that the
message will self distruct in five seconds etc.
+++++

Posting this information in the first place is questionable (if your sig is
more than five lines, you're probably compensating for something), but
reposting this information is just rude, and indicates an inability to
follow simple instructions, and/or a lack of common courtesy/extreme
laziness.  How are we to take you seriously if you posess even one of these
traits?

Look kids, its just polite, and it makes it soo much easier for the digest
readers.  Follow the simple rules, and be considerate of those that do
things slightly differently than you.  This counts as two.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050324104258.034985c8 [at] localhost>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:46:38 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
In-Reply-To: <list-21343200 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21343200 [at] prxy.net>

At 10:30 AM 3/24/2005, you wrote:
>There are other ways to effectuate battery safety (overcurrent protection, 
>thermal sensors, etc) without resorting to such anti-competitive draconian 
>measures.

Which work fine when the after-market battery actually has them.  The 
problem is when a battery explodes in a Nokia cell phone, people sue Nokia, 
NOT the un-locatable Asian manufacturer of the battery.  Having designed 
products with lithium batteries I know how much pressure there is to make 
the product slightly cheaper by leaving out the protection.

By the way, I had a recent discussion on a pyro mailing list about the 
power of a lithium battery.  After a bit of discussion, it seems the 
battery has about the same energy as weak flash powder, but of course 
wouldn't explode as rapidly (no chance of going "high order").


----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
fax:  +1 408 356-4659
web:  www.interstellar.com




------------------------------

From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <6d.41c21c15.2f746599 [at] aol.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:48:57 EST
Subject: Re: Somewhat delicate reference question

In a message dated 24/03/05 18:13:56 GMT Standard Time, roadhat [at] earthlink.ne=
t=20
writes:

> I have recently parted ways with the company for whom I have worked
>  exclusively for the past four years. While the official reason for my
>  dismissal was =E2=80=9Ca fiscally necessary restructuring,=E2=80=9D it ha=
s been strongly
>  suggested to me by my former supervisor that the organization will not
>  respond enthusiastically to any reference requests I might send their way=
.
>  The bad blood between me and this company need not be discussed publicly;
>  rather, my question for this list is this: How do people handle such
>  situations when looking for new work? I certainly do not want to list a
>  reference that will not speak well of my work but nor do I think it wise=20=
to
>  approach a job-search without listing my most recent long-term employer.

This is a bad situation. First, do a totally honest review of your work.=20
Analyse, if you can, why your last employer was dissatisfied with it. Think=20=
of=20
possible personality conflicts.=20


Frank Wood

------------------------------

Message-ID: <BAY104-F362F8B273B340C6913D3FDC2400 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-21342348 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: rigging spreadsheet
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:52:16 -0500

Alex - YOU DA MAN!!!

I never though about entering the diameter in anything other than a decimal 
value into the spreadsheet. When I entered 1/8  I got the date of Jan. 8.  I 
tried 1/8" and got a value error.

Problem solved.

-Delbert

Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)



>From: "Alex M. Postpischil" <apost [at] olemiss.edu>
>Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>Subject: rigging spreadsheet
>Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:48:11 -0600
>
>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>I just tried the D/d ratio worksheet and it did what I expected:
>-if you enter the Nominal Diameter of Wire Rope (B4) as a fraction (1/8)
>it translates the data to a date (08-Jan). However, if you enter it as a
>decimal (.125) it was fine.***
>
>***Note that I entered the decimal first, then tried the fraction. All
>entries after entering the fraction were translated to a date (even the
>decimals). So, when you first open the spreadsheet enter only
>decimals!!!
>
>-alex-
>
>Alex M. Postpischil, Technical Director
>Department of Theatre Arts
>University of Mississippi
>University, MS 38677
>662.915.6993
>662.915.5968 - fax
>
>



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Message-ID: <20050324190706.21417.qmail [at] web81701.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:07:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: rigging spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: 6667

--- Delbert Hall <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> Alex - YOU DA MAN!!!
> 
> I never though about entering the diameter in
> anything other than a decimal 
> value into the spreadsheet. When I entered 1/8  I
> got the date of Jan. 8.  I 
> tried 1/8" and got a value error.
> 
> Problem solved.
> 
> -Delbert

Works for me. I just automatically entered a fraction,
which then messed up every other attempt. Using a
decimal first prevented the problem.

Mike H

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050324200943.016f1620 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:09:43
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Rechargeables

> that made it a bit tight on getting 2 shows out of a set if
>it was a long show

AAAAAAAAUUUUUGGHHHH!  If you get a break at all between shows, I'm guessing
that talent gets out of costume, and therefore out of their mics?  Even if
they don't disrobe, there is no excuse to start a show on half-flat batts.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Message-ID: <42431157.8080400 [at] att.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:13:27 -0500
From: David Marks <davidmarks [at] att.net>
Subject: Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
References: <list-21343513 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21343513 [at] prxy.net>

I can relate.  I had to leave a position when the internal pressure 
became too great
to be effective at the job anymore. I was able to salvage a few good 
references however.

Some possible strategies:  Frame your separation in the best possible way.
Do not make it sound adversial, take the high road, do not bad mouth them if
you get into an interview situation.

Emphasize downsizing, employers can understand that.  This may defuse 
further questions.
If others lost their job at the same time, say "X of us were 
terminated", it takes the spotlight off you.

If you can, immediately show examples of the good work you did there.  
Stay on the positive
points, stay away from the negative.

Are there clients you served while working for this company that you can ask
for references (without raising more flags at the past job)?
And are there co-workers or friends who could give you references?

If it gets down to the nitty gritty and they ask the tough question,
explain ways that you were able to work effectively despite
a bad working relationship, i.e. staged a major show/project even while 
the office
was burning around you. 
Talk about you, make the interviewer interested about you
and your talents, it will make discussing the past "bad" relationships 
easier if they see
value in what you have to offer.

Dave Marks


------------------------------

From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:21:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
Message-Id: <20050324.112209.27628.53290 [at] webmail33.lax.untd.com>


I still think that getting a dangerous product off the market (or, better yet, never letting the product enter the market) can be accomplished more effectively by U.S. Customs and Consumer Product Safety Commission, rather than relying on the Copyright Act which is subverted quite regularly, particularly by Asian manufacturers. The commission can 'pull the plug' and order a recall, without a court hearing, TODAY, if there is a clear and present danger to consumers, unlike suing under the Copyright Act where a noticed hearing is required, and by that time, injuries may already have occurred.
/s/ Richard


>There are other ways to effectuate battery safety (overcurrent protection, thermal sensors, etc) without resorting to such anti-competitive draconian measures.

Which work fine when the after-market battery actually has them.  The 
problem is when a battery explodes in a Nokia cell phone, people sue Nokia, NOT the un-locatable Asian manufacturer of the battery.  
Jerry Durand



------------------------------

Message-ID: <4243148D.4010306 [at] josephchansen.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:27:09 -0500
From: Barney Simon <barney [at] josephchansen.com>
Subject: Re: Bouncy mail
References: <list-21341521 [at] prxy.net> <list-21341687 [at] prxy.net> <list-21341784 [at] prxy.net> <list-21341930 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21341930 [at] prxy.net>


> You might want to check to see if your ISP has beefed up its 
> server-side spam protection lately. Mine did, and for a time their 
> filters were blocking *all* messages originating with e-mail lists, 
> which bounced the messages back to the senders. They had to do some 
> tweaking of the filters to let the good stuff through while still 
> keeping out the stuff originating from spam lists.
>
Interesting, I have not had problems with THIS list, but my other list
has been complaining that the 300 emails a day that they send are
bounced... but I think I get them all anyway...

Barney Simon
JC Hansen Co.
Drapes, Drops, and Dance Floors



------------------------------

From: "Kevin A. Patrick" <patrick_kevin [at] colstate.edu>
Subject: RE: Somewhat delicate reference question
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:28:34 -0500
Organization: Columbus State University
In-Reply-To: <list-21342845 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000021344224 [at] prxy.net>

Here's a section from a pretty decent book, _Fearless Interviewing, How =
to
Win the Job by Communicating with Confidence_

Sorry for the formatting.  It's an e-book, and I just copied and pasted.


QUESTION: Why did you leave your last job?
The real fear behind this question is that you may have been fired
or that you are just changing jobs on a whim, only for the money,
or that you are a =93job hopper.=94
Let=92s look at three alternatives for fielding that one:
ANSWER A: I became aware that there were some excellent new
opportunities in the field of biotechnology. I really
wanted to expand my professional growth by finding
out more about them. This company, judging by
your Web site, seems like it would have some interesting
opportunities.
ANSWER B: I felt pretty bored at my last job, so I just wanted
something more stimulating.
Fearless Interviewing
ANSWER C: My last boss and I really didn=92t see eye to eye. He
wouldn=92t give me a raise no matter how many times
I tried to get one.

I bet you already chose A. You=92re right! No matter what question
you are asked about your last company, your last supervisor, or
your former coworkers, the intent is usually to =93dig up=94 something
negative. Both B and C imply some sort of negative
response to your last job.

Sharing ANY kind of negatives about a past
employer is to be avoided at all costs, even if you
feel that you were treated unfairly.

What if you were laid off due to a downsizing or reorganization
of your company? The three rules of thumb for explaining a layoff
are the following:
1. Don=92t blame yourself.
2. Don=92t blame or sound angry with the company.
3. End your statement about the situation on an upbeat
note by saying that you are looking forward to a new
position with new responsibilities.

Try these answers on for size. They do not get into negatives,
and they indicate that you have a clean slate and wish to move on:
ANSWER: Due to a mass reorganization of my company, my
entire department was eliminated. Now I=92m looking
forward to exploring new options for employment.
Or . . .
ANSWER: Due to serious financial problems, my company was
forced to downsize. Unfortunately, my position was
affected. Now I=92m looking forward to exploring
some new opportunities.
Answering Interview Questions
Or . . .
ANSWER: My company reduced its labor force to accommodate
a major shift in business. My function in the company
was moved to a site 1000 miles away, where I
chose not to relocate. I=92m eager to pursue other positions
in the local area.


*******If you were fired, you have no legal obligation to reveal it. =
Many
highly talented people get fired incidentally. It=92s nothing to be
ashamed of. At the same time, it=92s not something to talk about in
front of a prospective new employer.
Your ex-employer cannot legally release the information
that you were fired or say anything negative or positive
about your performance, for that matter. The only information
an employer can legally reveal about an ex-employee is the
following:
1. His or her start date
2. His or her title at the time of leaving the company
3. His or her last day with the company
You now have a strategy for answering some of these questions in
an optimal way. Keep the interview like a first date=97memorable,
fun, and not too heavy. Don=92t get into personal details that may
end up backfiring on you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of =
Jeremiah
Minh Greenblatt
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:13 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Somewhat delicate reference question

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Folks:
=A0
I have recently parted ways with the company for whom I have worked
exclusively for the past four years. While the official reason for my
dismissal was =93a fiscally necessary restructuring,=94 it has been =
strongly
suggested to me by my former supervisor that the organization will not
respond enthusiastically to any reference requests I might send their =
way.
The bad blood between me and this company need not be discussed =
publicly;
rather, my question for this list is this: How do people handle such
situations when looking for new work? I certainly do not want to list a
reference that will not speak well of my work but nor do I think it wise =
to
approach a job-search without listing my most recent long-term employer. =
I
am obviously worried about presenting a resume with such a glaring =
time-gap
but also do not want to be forced to ignore the skills and experience I
acquired on this job.=20
=A0
I would be happy to discuss the issues associated with my dismissal with =
a
prospective employer but I am not entirely sure how to appropriately =
broach
the subject. If anyone has incite into this situation (either from the
employer or employee perspective) I would be grateful for your thoughts.
=A0
Please note that I am decidedly NOT trying to open a public debate on =
the
merits/ethics of my specific former employer. The fact that some on this
list know my previous title is unavoidable in this context.
=A0
Thanks.
=A0
- J.Minh




--=20
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 3/23/2005
=20

--=20
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Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050324122804.0349ec20 [at] localhost>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:29:39 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: French humor

A friend in France sent me a modified version of the Stagecraft photo.  I 
added it to our server as "fake".  He would have liked to have been there, 
but couldn't afford the trip.

http://jdurand.no-ip.org/photos/USITT_Stage_Expo_2005/Stagecraft_Meeting_fake.jpg


----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
fax:  +1 408 356-4659
web:  www.interstellar.com




------------------------------

Subject: Re: RE: ETCP Handbook
Message-ID: <OFED61F699.9BBA8629-ON85256FCE.006D422B-85256FCE.00718212 [at] sarasotagov.com>
From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:39:49 -0500


I know we have to be patient. As an end user of Riggers and Electricians
nothing would make me (and risk management) happier than to hire only folks
with certification and I expect to be tripping over my long white beard by
the time that is reality. With an agreed standard of expertise the industry
takes a long needed first step to establish what the best professional
practice is. There are some great riggers in Local 412 and it's not all
that unusual for me to have to face down a show rigger who is about to do
something my guys think unsafe. In truth I'm appalled at what some
producers will send out in charge of rigging and electrics and the corners
people are willing to cut. I gotta believe there will be a trickle down
effect; every time they work, that top third will be giving O.J.T. to the
crews they work with. Now I'd award a lot of points to someone who can tell
me: "I worked with Bill or Delbert." that's the way our industry is but I
don't think it will be too long before people will be proudly putting time
or gigs worked with a certified rigger on their work history.

What I see as important now is in a sense we are raising the bar and that
has to benefit everyone.

Marty Petlock
Technical Facilities Manager
Van Wezel P.A.H.
Sarasota, FL.

**********
E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and
employees in connection with official City business
are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records
Act.
**********



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Message-ID: <BAY104-F204843F505F1F3A568C2ADC2400 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-21345394 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: French humor
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:38:09 -0500

Oh my God, I look like Randy Davidson!  Ahhhhh!!!!!!!

-Delbert

Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)


>
>A friend in France sent me a modified version of the Stagecraft photo.  I 
>added it to our server as "fake".  He would have liked to have been there, 
>but couldn't afford the trip.
>
>http://jdurand.no-ip.org/photos/USITT_Stage_Expo_2005/Stagecraft_Meeting_fake.jpg
>
>
>----------
>Jerry Durand
>Durand Interstellar, Inc.
>219 Oak Wood Way
>Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
>tel:  +1 408 356-3886
>fax:  +1 408 356-4659
>web:  www.interstellar.com
>
>
>



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Subject: RE: Somewhat delicate reference question
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:46:48 -0800
Message-ID: <FCDE18CF571244479E0A078AE596BADC9A812F [at] ftp.elslights.com>
From: "Joe Golden" <Joe [at] elslights.com>


How do I get a copy of this book?

> Here's a section from a pretty decent book, _Fearless=20
> Interviewing, How to Win the Job by Communicating with Confidence_

------------------------------

From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Cc: stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com
Subject: RE: Stage Directions magazine OT
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:04:08 -0800
In-Reply-To: <list-21342716 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000021345906 [at] prxy.net>

I regularly read it and find it interesting and informative. Dr. Doom

-- 
Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. -
www.riskit.com   Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry
Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational
Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops    International Secondary Education
Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of jsmith at
theatrewireless.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:04 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Stage Directions magazine OT

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

It's my turn for an OT post...

Do any of you regularly read Stage Directions magazine?  What do you think
of it?  

The ad rep really wants to sell me space, claiming that they reach the
academic theatre market like no other.  Is this true?

Jim


------------------------------

From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Laptop Battery (OT)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:04:08 -0800
In-Reply-To: <list-21344166 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000021345908 [at] prxy.net>

Richard You are absolutely correct. We have done this over the years and
because I do Product Liability Analysis (hint) I have found that working
through them on various projects and products does work. One of them sits
with me at the four national meetings I attend, and thus direct into the
pipeline is always good. Thanks for your excellent word. Dr. Doom
Keep in touch. 

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From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of
ladesigners [at] juno.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:22 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)

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I still think that getting a dangerous product off the market (or, better
yet, never letting the product enter the market) can be accomplished more
effectively by U.S. Customs and Consumer Product Safety Commission, rather
than relying on the Copyright Act which is subverted quite regularly,
particularly by Asian manufacturers. The commission can 'pull the plug' and
order a recall, without a court hearing, TODAY, if there is a clear and
present danger to consumers, unlike suing under the Copyright Act where a
noticed hearing is required, and by that time, injuries may already have
occurred.
/s/ Richard


>There are other ways to effectuate battery safety (overcurrent protection,
thermal sensors, etc) without resorting to such anti-competitive draconian
measures.

Which work fine when the after-market battery actually has them.  The 
problem is when a battery explodes in a Nokia cell phone, people sue Nokia,
NOT the un-locatable Asian manufacturer of the battery.  
Jerry Durand



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Message-ID: <42433650.4010601 [at] fuse.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:51:12 -0500
From: Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
Subject: Is there a list problem or is it a people problem?

It seems half of the new threads are starting out as 
complete hijacks/revisions of existing threads.

I don't mean threads that drift miles away from where they 
started, but "Wagner + lyrics" became "ETCP Handbook"
"Speaking of Rigging" became "list gathering"....

I could cite dozens more...

It makes it very hard to track back to the start of some 
threads.

If the list software is doing this, I'd love it if it could 
be made to stop.   If nobody else has seen this, I'll see if 
I can fix my software.

If it isn't either of these, could people posting a new 
thread starter please post it as a new message, not as a 
reply.   I suspect there is a hidden threading cue that 
isn't deleted when a reply is used as a template to head a 
new thread.

Thanks,

Stuart


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Message-Id: <s242e4ca.076 [at] mail.ridgewater.mnscu.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:03:06 -0600
From: "Peter Lerohl" <Peter.Lerohl [at] ridgewater.edu>
Subject: Seeking rental drop for _Drood_

Greetings,

We are looking to rent a scenic drop for our production of _The Mystery
of Edwin Drood_.  I came across a production photo from the Chippewa
Valley Theatre Guild's 1989 production in Eau Claire, WI that they had
posted on their website.  In this photo there is a drop representing
Cloisterham (the main locale for the show) that was obviously custom
made for _Drood_.  I called them and they said they rented it from a
place in Minneapolis, but they couldn't remember who.  I haven't had any
luck finding any place in Minneapolis that rents drops.

Has anyone seen this drop and by chance do you know if it's still out
there for rent anywhere?  Here's a link to the CVTG site where I saw
it.

http://www.cvtg.org/history/photos/0000_Other/medium/1989_04_drood_b.html


and

http://www.cvtg.org/history/photos/0000_Other/medium/1989_04_drood_a.html


I've looked at many Dickens era street scene drops from major scenic
rental houses and so many of them are snow-filled and evening images. 
There are a few others close to what we want, but the one from the CVTG
production is the best I've seen so far - it's dark and moody without
snow and the windows of the shops/houses are not "lit" but appear blank.
 Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

Peter Lerohl

Technical Director/Theatre Faculty
Ridgewater College Theatre
Willmar, MN 56201

320.231.5413

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From: "Kevin A. Patrick" <patrick_kevin [at] colstate.edu>
Subject: RE: Somewhat delicate reference question
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:27:35 -0500
Organization: Columbus State University
In-Reply-To: <list-21345732 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000021347708 [at] prxy.net>

It's by Marky Stein.  Amazon.com has three of his books for about $10 each.

\<


-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Joe Golden
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:47 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Somewhat delicate reference question

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How do I get a copy of this book?

> Here's a section from a pretty decent book, _Fearless 
> Interviewing, How to Win the Job by Communicating with Confidence_

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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Somewhat delicate reference question
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:28:27 -0500
Message-ID: <006401c530c0$d13988f0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-21347709 [at] prxy.net>

Another good book on the subject is, "Sweaty Palms, the Neglected Art of
Being Interviewed," by Anthony Medley.



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Message-ID: <3cf2830f05032414333f212570 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:33:01 -0800
From: Chad Smith <sfxsmith [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Chad Smith <sfxsmith [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
In-Reply-To: <list-21342845 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21342845 [at] prxy.net>

Maybe you should have a friend call for a reference request to see how
goes. I know my former employer the company policy is to give no
references good or bad they just verify employment.

> dismissal was "a fiscally necessary restructuring," it has been strongly
> suggested to me by my former supervisor that the organization will not
> respond enthusiastically to any reference requests I might send their way.

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Message-Id: <p06020415be68f1eca519 [at] [134.53.196.69]>
In-Reply-To: <list-21342758 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21342758 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:41:10 -0500
From: Gion DeFrancesco <defranga [at] po.muohio.edu>
Subject: Re: Stage Directions magazine OT

I'd say the "like no other" claim might be true - everyone on my 
faculty gets a copy every month though none of us has paid for a 
subscription...




>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>It's my turn for an OT post...
>
>Do any of you regularly read Stage Directions magazine?  What do you think
>of it? 
>
>The ad rep really wants to sell me space, claiming that they reach the
>academic theatre market like no other.  Is this true?
>
>Jim


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MUT Production Manager
Miami University
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Oxford, OH 45056
513.529.8318

On the web at http://arts.muohio.edu/defranga

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Message-ID: <3cf2830f05032414461395fd08 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:46:51 -0800
From: Chad Smith <sfxsmith [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Chad Smith <sfxsmith [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rigging Software
In-Reply-To: <list-21299289 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21299289 [at] prxy.net>

I found if I input .125 it works just fine. But if you input 1/8 then
I get the date and every time after that even going back to .125 until
I closed it and reopen. BTW I'm running XP Excel 97.
Chad


> Just an FYI for everyone. I've already found a problem
> with the Excel spreadsheet. Under "D/d Ratio", the two
> diamater data fields are formated as dates.

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Message-ID: <BAY104-F15F8939116ED08B0B2C447C2400 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-21348121 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stage Directions magazine OT
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:48:59 -0500

I would call it a "respectable" publication.  I read it -  maybe not 
cover-to-cover, but I do look through it and if something catches my 
attention, I read the article.  I always look at the ads to see if there is 
anything new and interesting on the market.

BTW, I would certainly not call this subject OT it is definately stagecraft 
related.

Speaking of OT, I ordered the ultra high capacity battery for my laptop from 
Pacific Battery.

-Delbert

Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)



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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1a1.303beded.2f749f06 [at] aol.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:53:58 EST
Subject: Re: Somewhat delicate reference question

In a message dated 24/03/05 20:47:20 GMT Standard Time, Joe [at] elslights.com 
writes:

> How do I get a copy of this book?
>  
>  > Here's a section from a pretty decent book, _Fearless 
>  > Interviewing, How to Win the Job by Communicating with Confidence_

This is all very well, but, from what was originally posted, there is not 
going to be a good reference coming from your last employer. No matter how well 
you put yourself across at the interview, a bad reference will kill you stone 
dead.


Frank Wood

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Message-ID: <BAY104-F28E57B2C2C2F2C2A6D13BCC2400 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-21348293 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Angoff Method (not OT but sure might look like it)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:23:53 -0500

The ETCP exam will be scored using the Angoff method.  Since a few of you 
might not know exactly what this is (I wan't sure), so I did a little 
research.  Here is the shortest and clearest example of the Angoff method of 
standard setting I found.  Someone on the ETCP group might explain how this 
method will be used on the ETCP exam.
______________________________________________________________________

Standard setting for Part 1 of the PLAB Test

October 2000

The standard setting procedure is called the Angoff method.

The exercise was conducted on the first extended matching question (EMQ) 
examination paper (4 July 2000) to establish a standard for the examination.

The exercise was undertaken by 12 experienced doctors with expertise in the 
performance of doctors at senior house officer (SHO) level.

These 12 doctors had to agree a profile of a typical group of 10 first 
appointment SHOs, who were competent to practise safely but who were not 
high calibre.

Without consulting their colleagues, the experts then had to judge how many 
of the typical group would answer each question correctly. These judgements 
were added up and converted into a percentage for the whole paper. Two of 
the judgements were well outside the range of the others and the group 
agreed to discount them. The remaining percentages were averaged to 
determine the notional passing score.

As the EMQ examination is only the first stage of the test, it was agreed 
that borderline candidates should be given the benefit of the doubt. This 
meant that those falling up to one standard error below the notional passing 
score, would be allowed to pass. This amended passing score was then used to 
set the standard for the examination.

The standard is maintained by linear equating. This means that a certain 
number of questions are common to more than one examination paper and are 
used to estimate the relative level of difficulty of different examination 
papers. The actual pass mark is adjusted in consequence of this in order to 
maintain the standard.

___________________________

I hope this helps.

-Delbert

Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)



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Message-ID: <b7aa280105032415282e9eaa7d [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:28:36 -0800
From: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Cc: peter [at] scheuconsulting.com
Subject: Re: speaking of rigging (drafting standards?)
In-Reply-To: <list-21341969 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21341633 [at] prxy.net> <list-21341969 [at] prxy.net>

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:29:33 -0500, Scheu Consulting Services
<peter [at] scheuconsulting.com> wrote:
> Drafting "for the theatre" is often stylized and sometimes approached as an
> extension of the artistic expression of the designer (especially before the
> advent of CAD). Getting everyone in our industry to follow one set of rigid
> standards would be nearly impossible (IMHO).
> 

There is a usitt graphic standard for drafting, available as a pdf at
http://www.usitt.org/pubs.avail/Graphic.Standards.1992.pdf

Don't know how many people actually follow it.  Sometimes the
"stylized" "artistic expression" drafting leaves a lot to be desired. 
I have seen many designer drawings where it was really hard to tell
which 'line' the designer really meant to use.  On the other hand,
there are a lot of CAD drawings out there that have absolutely no hint
of line weight or style.  CAD drawings can be quite cold and sterile,
but they don't need to be.

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe [at] gmail.com

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Message-ID: <42434D28.7050105 [at] att.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:28:40 -0500
From: David Marks <davidmarks [at] att.net>
Subject: Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
References: <list-21348475 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21348475 [at] prxy.net>

FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote:

> This is all very well, but, from what was originally posted, there is 
> not going to be a good reference coming from your last employer. No 
> matter how well you put yourself across at the interview, a bad 
> reference will kill you stone dead.



I know this is pointless trying to explain this to Frank but.....

Frank,
In the United States, employers are only allowed to contact references
that are listed by the job candidate.  If the job candidate doesn't list
a former employer, they can't be contacted.  Is this clear?
Equally, many employers in the United States are hard pressed
to give a negative review for fear of lawsuits by the former employee.
This has been discussed at length on this very list in the not too 
distant past.

Feel free to tell us how wrong we are.

Dave Marks


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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <a9.700447f4.2f74aa01 [at] aol.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:40:49 EST
Subject: Re: Somewhat delicate reference question

In a message dated 24/03/05 23:29:34 GMT Standard Time, davidmarks [at] att.net 
writes:

> Feel free to tell us how wrong we are.

I shan't bother. You know it as well as I do.

Frank Wood

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Message-ID: <4243516F.4070909 [at] peak.org>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:46:55 -0800
From: Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
Subject: Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
References: <list-21348475 [at] prxy.net> <list-21349241 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21349241 [at] prxy.net>

David Marks wrote:

> FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote:
> 
>> This is all very well, but, from what was originally posted, there is 
>> not going to be a good reference coming from your last employer. No 
>> matter how well you put yourself across at the interview, a bad 
>> reference will kill you stone dead.

> I know this is pointless trying to explain this to Frank but.....
> 
> Frank,
> In the United States, employers are only allowed to contact references
> that are listed by the job candidate.  If the job candidate doesn't list
> a former employer, they can't be contacted.  Is this clear?

Whatever gives you that idea?

It's not true. If you're trying to get information about a job 
applicant, you are free to contact whoever you please.

> Equally, many employers in the United States are hard pressed
> to give a negative review for fear of lawsuits by the former employee.
> This has been discussed at length on this very list in the not too 
> distant past.

This, however, is accurate. Some employers these days are so 
lawsuit-wary that they won't give *any* kind of review. My own employer, 
a major university, recently made it campus-wide policy that the only 
information we are permitted to give out when asked for references is 
whether the individual in fact worked for us, and over what dates. We 
are not permitted to answer any other questions.

-- 
Pat Kight
kightp [at] peak.org

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Message-ID: <b7aa28010503241616670964e0 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:16:46 -0800
From: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
In-Reply-To: <list-21349734 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21348475 [at] prxy.net> <list-21349241 [at] prxy.net>
	 <list-21349734 [at] prxy.net>

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:46:55 -0800, Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org> wrote:

>  If you're trying to get information about a job
> applicant, you are free to contact whoever you please.
> 

Including the credit reporting agencys.  Many employers are now using
credit reports as part of their decision making on employee hiring. 
See the FTC website at
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/credempl.htm for info.

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe [at] gmail.com

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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:10:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Somewhat delicate reference question
Message-Id: <20050324.171035.2204.57779 [at] webmail27.lax.untd.com>


THIS NOT TRUE! Anyone can contact anyone for any reason, or for no reason, unless there is a properly served restraining order in place, or unless they are listed on some official 'Do Not Call' list.
/s/ Richard

Frank,
In the United States, employers are only allowed to contact references
that are listed by the job candidate.  If the job candidate doesn't list a former employer, they can't be contacted.  Is this clear?
Dave Marks



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Message-ID: <42436CEE.3090607 [at] ix.netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:44:14 -0800
From: "Bryan H. Ackler" <backler [at] ix.netcom.com>
Organization: Va. Tech - Vassar - USITT - NTHP
Subject: Handheld Cell Phone Jammer
References: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net>

Bring back an old thread....... :-)

http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/Personal.htm

Range about 45 feet.

About 170 pounds sterling....... not cheap....
and probabily illegal to boot.......

Now the good news is that these are being used to jam
cell phone bombs in Iraq.

Bryan






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