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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #345

 1. Re: rigging spreadsheet
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
 2. Re: rigging spreadsheet
    by Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
 3. Re: Nicopress Sleeves
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
 4. Re: rigging spreadsheet
    by "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
 5. Re: rigging spreadsheet
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
 6. Re: rigging spreadsheet
    by "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
 7. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by DanSLDME [at] aol.com
 8. Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
 9. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
10. The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
    by "John Taylor" <jt [at] techie.com>
11. fall arrest standards and rescue
    by "Frank Kern" <bugsynights [at] hotmail.com>
12. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
13. Confetti cannons around NYC
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
14. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by "Klyph Stanford" <klyphstanford [at] earthlink.net>
15. Re: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
16. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
17. Re: rigging spreadsheet
    by "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
18. Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
19. Re: rigging spreadsheet
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
20. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
21. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
22. Re: rigging spreadsheet
    by Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
23. Re: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
    by Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
24. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
25. Re: panel discussion
    by Chris Davis <cdavis309 [at] optonline.net>
26. Re: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
    by Steve Larson <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
27. Re: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
    by Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
28. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
29. Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
30. Re: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
    by "Dre Suchoski" <Dsuchoski [at] olneytheatre.org>
31. Re: Projector Issues
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
32. Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
33. Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
34. Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
35. pulling Marley
    by "CHIP WEINSTEIN" <vlwchip [at] bellsouth.net>
36. Re: Projector Issues
    by Boyd Ostroff <ostroff [at] operaphilly.com>
37. Re: pulling Marley
    by Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
38. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
39. Re: fall arrest standards and rescue
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
40. Re: Confetti cannons around NYC
    by Eddie Kramer <ESKramer [at] earthlink.net>
41. Re: Speaking of Genies
    by Andrew Vance <andrew [at] andrewvance.com>
42. Re: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
    by "Michael Denison" <mdenison [at] cottey.edu>
43. Re: Speaking of Genies
    by "Fitch, Tracy" <tfitch [at] email.uncc.edu>
44. Re: pulling Marley
    by Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
45. Re: Stump the Electrican
    by Mitch Hefter <stagecraft [at] DesignRelief.com>
46. Re: fall arrest standards and rescue
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
47. Fall Arrest Test video
    by "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" <chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca>
48. Re: A Marley question
    by <productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org>
49. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by Nicholas Kuhl <nkuhl [at] bu.edu>
50. Re: Projector Issues
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
51. Re: Stump the Electrican
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
52. Re: fall arrest standards and rescue
    by "Tom Heemskerk" <tommy [at] etainternet.com>
53. Re: SPAM-LOW:  Re: Stump the Electrican
    by Richard Wolpert <richw [at] unionconnector.com>
54. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
55. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
56. Photos of electrical practice
    by Richard Wolpert <richw [at] unionconnector.com>
57. Re: fall arrest standards and rescue
    by Mike Brubaker <mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com>
58. Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
59. Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
60. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
61. Re: Economy of Momentum (was: Re: Lifting pianos revisited)
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
62. Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
63. Re: Stump the Electrican
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
64. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
65. Re: Speaking of Genies
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
66. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
67. Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
68. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
69. Re: fall arrest standards and rescue
    by Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
70. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
71. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>
72. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
73. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by "Scott C. Parker" <stagecraftlist [at] hstech.org>

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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:10:45 -0500
Subject: Re: rigging spreadsheet
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE6C0CF4.5D3F%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21419271 [at] prxy.net>

on 3/27/05 12:44 AM, David d'Anjou at ddanjou [at] gmail.com wrote:

> Something I do with excel is to simply enter a plus sign before
> entering a fraction "+1/8".  The fraction gets resolved to the decimal
> equivalent, but if you edit the cell late you see what you entered.
> AND you don't have to remember what the decimal equialent for 37/64ths
> is.


True.  But if you're working to within 37/64ths tolerance you are no longer
rigging.  It's now become brain surgery.

<<gg>>

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

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Message-ID: <b7318c4805032704371675882a [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:37:54 -0500
From: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Cc: ddanjou [at] gmail.com (David d'Anjou)
Subject: Re: rigging spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <list-21419271 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21343887 [at] prxy.net> <list-21419271 [at] prxy.net>

I tried your solution and Excel wanted to change +1/8"  to +1/"8".  I
accepted the change and it worked.  I then tried =1/8, which seemed
more logical to me, and that worked too.  Excel converted both to .125
  Thanks for the suggestion.

-Delbert

> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Something I do with excel is to simply enter a plus sign before
> entering a fraction "+1/8".  The fraction gets resolved to the decimal
> equivalent, but if you edit the cell late you see what you entered.
> AND you don't have to remember what the decimal equialent for 37/64ths
> is.
> 
> -- 
> David d'Anjou
> Technical Communications Supervisor
> Cirque du Soleil
> 

-- 
Delbert Hall
Phone: 423-772-4255

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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:57:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Nicopress Sleeves
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE6C17D4.5D46%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21418657 [at] prxy.net>

on 3/27/05 12:14 AM, Robert Barnwell at RBarnwell [at] pop.ncarts.edu wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> I'm interested in getting everyone's thoughts on Nicopress sleeves, mainly
> regarding Copper and Aluminum sleeves.  As well as if it is a good idea to
> use off brands, other than hardware manufactured by National Telephone
> Supply.
> 
> Thanks
> Robert
> 

Oy!  Such a question!  haven't we done this elebenty seven times before?

Preface:  The name Nicopress has become the generic name for all sleeves.
It is inaccurate and confusing.  Just like Crosby is the name of a company,
not the piece of hardware. The same is true for Nicopress.  And just like
Crosby, I have found that people, when ordering Nicopress, are unwilling to
actually pay for Nicopress.

Depending on your definition of an Off Brand, it's entirely possible that
National Telephone IS the off brand.

The other company that makes Oval Swage Fittings is the Loos company out of
Naples Florida.  While I don't have any hard data at my fingertips (it is
Sunday morning after all) I know that we sell at least 5 times as many Loos
sleeves as we do National Telephone.  They cost considerably  less.

Put the 2 brands of sleeves side by side on a table and you won't be able to
tell which is which.

The difference in failure rate between the 2 manufacturers is somewhere
around zero.

But there is a difference in size between the 2 companies whether you can
see it or not. If the sleeve, crimping tool and go/no-go gauge do not all
come from the same manufacturer, there is a possibility of getting an
inaccurate reading from the gauge.

And there is a difference in installation requirements.  On the sizes we are
most likely to use, the National Telephone people require 3 crimps. On the
same size sleeves the Loos company requires 4.

The difference between copper and aluminum?  Age old debate.
 
Failure rate difference due to material or manufacturers defects.
Negligible.

Failure rate difference due to improper installation.  Negligible...Humans
screw up copper or aluminum sleeves pretty much the same.

Material difference....a little.  Copper is harder.  Aluminum may not
withstand the test of time as there may be some corrosion between the
aluminum and the galvanized steel.  But I'm told that the process will take
about 75 years, so I'm not too worried about it (I won't be here)

Shock loading...I'm told that aluminum may crack more easily under a shock
load.  Might be true BUT...both manufacturers recommend that both styles of
sleeve be replaced after a shock load has been applied.

So......The common practice in the industry right now is to use copper.  Or
zinc coated copper  (copper oxidizes, after all)  OK.  I'll sell you copper.
or zinc coated copper.  Or, when someone finds a problem with zinc and they
decide that a platinum coating over the zinc coating on the copper sleeve is
the way to go, then I'll sell you that one too.

I need more tea now.

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

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From: "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
Subject: RE: rigging spreadsheet
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:27:48 +0400
In-Reply-To: <list-21426328 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20050327142801.6B253582B [at] mail05.powweb.com>

Since when have riggers known anything about
tolerance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 4:11 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: rigging spreadsheet

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on 3/27/05 12:44 AM, David d'Anjou at ddanjou [at] gmail.com wrote:

> Something I do with excel is to simply enter a plus sign before 
> entering a fraction "+1/8".  The fraction gets resolved to the decimal 
> equivalent, but if you edit the cell late you see what you entered.
> AND you don't have to remember what the decimal equialent for 37/64ths 
> is.


True.  But if you're working to within 37/64ths tolerance you are no longer
rigging.  It's now become brain surgery.

<<gg>>

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride
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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 09:49:31 -0500
Subject: Re: rigging spreadsheet
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE6C322B.5D4F%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21432925 [at] prxy.net>

on 3/27/05 9:27 AM, Simon Shuker at simon [at] ef-ae.com wrote:

> Since when have riggers known anything about
> tolerance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oooooooooooooooooo.  That's cruel.



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From: "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
Subject: RE: rigging spreadsheet
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:49:56 +0400
In-Reply-To: <list-21433270 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20050327145007.3C8F75803 [at] mail05.powweb.com>

 

> Since when have riggers known anything about 
> tolerance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oooooooooooooooooo.  That's cruel.

But mostly true, but I would not want them any other way!





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From: DanSLDME [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <ae.6eeeab0a.2f782375 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 09:55:49 EST
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)

Hi all

Perhaps straying a bit further OT,
but in the interest of safety awareness...

In one of my previous incarnations I was an auto mechanic,
and an automotive electrical systems specialist.

I have a VERY healthy respect for the explosive potential
of a common automotive lead-acid, hydrogen-emitting battery.

No jewelry (even the wedding ring is a BAD thing when
you have to reach up behind a dashboard).  Safety glasses.
CAREFUL where you place tools & parts under the hood.
Most cars now have covers over the hot battery post,
but that's not the only hot spot.

To disconnect a battery, remove the ground first
(seems counterintuitive, but that way if the tool you're
using to perform the disconnect slips, it's ground to ground,
and once the ground post is disconnected everything is safe).
Connect ground last when installing a battery.

Jumper cables are SCARY because many people don't appreciate the danger.

When hooking up, the LAST connection you make
is a ground someplace on the engine well away from the battery
(this connection will usually spark, sometimes quite enthusiastically;
remember the hydrogen?  remember the Hindenburg?).

When disconnecting, the FIRST connection you break is
this away-from-the-battery ground.


Regards.

Dan S.



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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:18:21 -0500
Subject: Breakfast?  VERY OT
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE6C38EC.5D58%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21418657 [at] prxy.net>

OK.  For some of you out there, today's a holiday.  Got a really stupid
question for those with kids.

What do you do for breakfast on a day like today?  Anything special?

We went for the chocolate chip pancakes today.   mmmmmm.

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1dc.39a2e331.2f782af8 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:27:52 EST
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT


In a message dated 3/27/05 10:16:03 AM, bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com writes:

<< What do you do for breakfast on a day like today?  Anything special? >>

how can you do anything other than crack open decorated hard boiled eggs ! 

Bill, , you are sooo non traditional ! 

very best,

Keith Arsenault

IAEG -  International Arts & Entertainment Group 
Tampa, Florida

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From: "John Taylor" <jt [at] techie.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 09:37:25 -0600
Subject: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
Message-Id: <20050327153725.1237C4BEAD [at] ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com>

While enjoying some quite time time this morning before heading into tech w=
ith two shows this week, I was watching CBS Sunday Morning. A normal Sunday=
 morning routine for me. To my amazement one of the subjects of today's sho=
w was Peeps!

For those who might be interested, you can check it out at http://www.cbsne=
ws.com/stories/2005/03/25/sunday/main683276.shtml
it was a great story about them. Additional info about Peeps and links to s=
ome sites are also there.

Well off to focus lights and then the first tech with the second show tomor=
row.

John 'JT' Taylor
Freelance LD & SD and general purpose theatre and AV technician=20
St Louis, MO


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Message-ID: <BAY17-F392587615BD20CA8D890AEBA430 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Frank Kern" <bugsynights [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: fall arrest standards and rescue
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:41:36 +0000

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE>Looking for information regarding the "standards" for theatrical fall arrest.&nbsp; It seems like every industry has their own standard...ours seems as if it is still searching for one.&nbsp; I read some great articles from Uncle Bill, and am still searching for more.&nbsp; Anyone have an opinion, other&nbsp;information?&nbsp; Oh, and when the&nbsp;son-of-a-b*#!h does fall, how do you get him down?&nbsp; Just waxing the philosophical.&nbsp; Thanks for your time.</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>Frank&nbsp;</DIV></div></html>


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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:05:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BE6C43FE.30FF%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21433778 [at] prxy.net>

Well Bill on a day like today when in the past 48 hours Duke Lost and the
Illini won (depriving me of being able to shout "Go Pittsnogle!!!")

I generally wake up and ask my bartender for another dirty martini. The one
I left on the bar must have gotten cleared away. (damn)

Oh kids, yeah I missed that part...If I'm having kids for breakfast I
generally like to fry them up real good and I have 'em with Mustard.
On occasion Catsup works but Mustard is tastier I find. Frank I use yellow
mustard I find the color helps wake me up. I'm sure you use "grey" Poupon.

_Happy Easter
(did he see his shadow?  Do we have 6 more weeks of winter?)

On 3/27/05 10:18 AM, "Bill Sapsis" <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> OK.  For some of you out there, today's a holiday.  Got a really stupid
> question for those with kids.
> 
> What do you do for breakfast on a day like today?  Anything special?
> 
> We went for the chocolate chip pancakes today.   mmmmmm.
> 
> Bill S.
> www.sapsis-rigging.com
> 800.727.7471
> 800.292.3851  fax
> 267.278.4561  mobile
> 
> Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride
> http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:41:34 -0500
Subject: Confetti cannons around NYC
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BE6C4C6E.310B%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>

Hey folks,

I've had a client ask me for Confetti Canonns. Anyone know who rents them in
NYC?


-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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From: "Klyph Stanford" <klyphstanford [at] earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Breakfast?  VERY OT
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:57:54 -0500
In-Reply-To: <list-21434672 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20050327165207.4C61799D7 [at] mailrelay.t-mobile.com>

Kids should never be served for breakfast, maybe brunch though.  Pan roasted
with butter, garlic and a dry white wine.  Serve with orzo and a salad of
fresh greens. ;)

Klyph Stanford
 
336.575.7235
 
"Let's go get drunk on the light once more."
Georges Seurat
-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Herrick
Goldman
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:06 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Breakfast? VERY OT

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<Oh kids, yeah I missed that part...If I'm having kids for breakfast I
<generally like to fry them up real good and I have 'em with Mustard.
<On occasion Catsup works but Mustard is tastier I find. Frank I use yellow
<mustard I find the color helps wake me up. I'm sure you use "grey" Poupon.




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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:15:07 GMT
Subject: Re: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
Message-Id: <20050327.091607.2331.85952 [at] webmail28.lax.untd.com>


I saw it too. I've watched the Sunday morning show for decades.
/s/ Richard


While enjoying some quite time time this morning before heading into tech with two shows this week, I was watching CBS Sunday Morning. A normal Sunday morning routine for me. To my amazement one of the subjects of today's show was Peeps!

For those who might be interested, you can check it out at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/25/sunday/main683276.shtml
it was a great story about them. Additional info about Peeps and links to some sites are also there.

John 'JT' Taylor


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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:17:22 GMT
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
Message-Id: <20050327.091809.2331.85976 [at] webmail28.lax.untd.com>


Yea, he might actually have a LIFE!
/s/ Richard

Bill, , you are sooo non traditional ! 
Keith Arsenault



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Message-ID: <BAY104-F39968BC831AC2C402A9D1AC2430 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-21426328 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Delbert Hall" <flyingfx [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: rigging spreadsheet
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:24:27 -0500

>True.  But if you're working to within 37/64ths tolerance you are no longer
>rigging.  It's now become brain surgery.

WRONG.   37/64ths is more than 1/2 of an inch, and the tolerances for stage 
rigging are a lot closer than that.  For example: Draft BSR E1.4 Section 
3.1.7 (e) states:  ... "When clips are used to grip a beam flange, the clip 
shall deflect not more than 3mm (7/64 inch) when fully clamped at the block 
manufacturer's recommended torque value."

-Delbert

Delbert L. Hall
423-773-HALL (4255)


>
>



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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <b9.547e9611.2f7848a6 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:34:30 EST
Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage

In a message dated 27/03/05 05:27:22 GMT Daylight Time, OneOccy [at] hotmail.com 
writes:

> The funniest ground that I have ever seen a 5 gallon plastic bucket filled 
>  with concrete and grounding rod stuck in the concrete with all the proper 
>  hardware to connect a 4\0 pigtail ground color camlock to connect to it, 
and 
> 
>  a pigtail was already connected to it when they brought it in. This was of 
>  course after I complained many of time that the genny not being grounded 
on 
>  the other special projects that I worked on. After I got off the floor I 
>  made them drive a 10 foot 3/4 inch grounding rod threw the asphalt in the 
>  parking lot, then the quote was "we will never get it out" 

It's not unusual to find the generator with one wheel parked on the earth 
spike. I don't think that this is good technique, but it's better than a plastic 
bucket!


Frank Wood

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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:41:29 -0500
Subject: Re: rigging spreadsheet
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE6C5A79.5D6B%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21435547 [at] prxy.net>

on 3/27/05 12:24 PM, Delbert Hall at flyingfx [at] hotmail.com wrote:

> WRONG.   37/64ths is more than 1/2 of an inch, and the tolerances for stage
> rigging are a lot closer than that.  For example: Draft BSR E1.4 Section
> 3.1.7 (e) states:  ... "When clips are used to grip a beam flange, the clip
> shall deflect not more than 3mm (7/64 inch) when fully clamped at the block
> manufacturer's recommended torque value."


Thanks Delbert.  I'm thrilled you just happened to have draft BSR E1.4
Section 3.1.7 (e) lying around to make sure I didn't do anything foolish.

I should point out, however, that BSRE1.4 is indeed a Draft and as such
cannot be used ....yet.  So I'm off the hook for the moment.

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride
http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html



Bill S.


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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <b9.547e961b.2f784b1e [at] aol.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:45:02 EST
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)

In a message dated 27/03/05 15:56:32 GMT Daylight Time, DanSLDME [at] aol.com 
writes:

> No jewelry (even the wedding ring is a BAD thing when
>  you have to reach up behind a dashboard).  Safety glasses.
>  CAREFUL where you place tools & parts under the hood.
>  Most cars now have covers over the hot battery post,
>  but that's not the only hot spot.

 Wise. I knew of a guy who nearly burned off his ring finger, by getting the 
ring across the starter solenoid terminals. It welded on.

Frank Wood

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <100.10225443.2f784caa [at] aol.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:51:38 EST
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT

In a message dated 27/03/05 17:04:27 GMT Daylight Time, 
Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com writes:

> Frank I use yellow
>  mustard I find the color helps wake me up. I'm sure you use "grey" Poupon.

My wife does. I prefer the strong, yellow, English variety. As for breakfast, 
bacon, eggs, kidneys, and potato scones will do for me. I find fried bread 
preferable, but I also find it hard to find suitable bread.



Frank Wood

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Message-ID: <b7318c4805032710053b08e284 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:05:48 -0500
From: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: rigging spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <list-21435697 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21435547 [at] prxy.net> <list-21435697 [at] prxy.net>

Actually, DRAFT BSR E1.4 was not just lying around, I was reading
through it this afternoon for a specific reason and when I saw 7/64"
it jumped out at me as being similar to a number that I have seen in a
couple of posts (37/64").

And while this is a "draft" document, as a whole, many of the things
in this document are NOT mearly preliminary.  For example: the
document contains excellent definations and descriptions of many very
important rigging terms and hardware items.  While this document (like
other ESTA drafts) is not a standard, it is a collection of
information about stage rigging that is not availble in any other
single document that I am aware of.  Therefore, while recognizing it
for what it is, I also recognize it for the wealth of knowledge that
it holds.

-Delbert


> Thanks Delbert.  I'm thrilled you just happened to have draft BSR E1.4
> Section 3.1.7 (e) lying around to make sure I didn't do anything foolish.
> 
> I should point out, however, that BSRE1.4 is indeed a Draft and as such
> cannot be used ....yet.  So I'm off the hook for the moment.
> 
> Bill S.

Delbert Hall
Phone: 423-772-4255

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References: <list-21435487 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <bbf1444c2358681bd7ff5b271e67cba9 [at] email.arizona.edu>
Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien)
From: Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:07:46 -0700

I suppose someone must have caught the thread on the mailing list...

CNN had a piece on the peeps today also.

(slow new day, I suppose)


Mark O'Brien
Opera Technical Director
University of Arizona, School of Music
Tucson, AZ
520/621-7025
520/591-1803 Mobile


On Mar 27, 2005, at 10:15 AM, ladesigners [at] juno.com wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> I saw it too. I've watched the Sunday morning show for decades.
> /s/ Richard
>
>
> While enjoying some quite time time this morning before heading into 
> tech with two shows this week, I was watching CBS Sunday Morning. A 
> normal Sunday morning routine for me. To my amazement one of the 
> subjects of today's show was Peeps!
>
> For those who might be interested, you can check it out at 
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/25/sunday/main683276.shtml
> it was a great story about them. Additional info about Peeps and links 
> to some sites are also there.
>
> John 'JT' Taylor
>


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Message-ID: <003b01c532f9$66013d90$0600000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-21435825 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:18:38 -0800

>  I find fried bread
> preferable, but I also find it hard to find suitable bread.
>


Is that called French Toast over here?  Or are we still calling it "Freedom 
Toast?"  I can't keep that straight.

But I gotta run - need to go check the Terror Alert Level before I go into 
tech this afternoon.

     -- Jon Ares
Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts
www.hevanet.com/acreative
www.wlhstheatre.org 


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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:33:09 -0500
From: Chris Davis <cdavis309 [at] optonline.net>
Subject: Re: panel discussion
In-reply-to: <list-21399565 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20050327133213.00a33220 [at] mail-hub.optonline.net>
References: <list-21395614 [at] prxy.net>

If you remove the female connector it makes a great lie detector too.


At 05:18 AM 3/26/2005 -1000, Paul Guncheon
  wrote:

>If you tie a knot in both ends (recommended), and unplug it, you now have a
>battery.  The fatter the wire, the bigger the battery.

__________________________________
Chris Davis     cdavis [at] queenstheatre.org
Associate Lighting Supervisor
Queens Theatre In The Park
http://www.queenstheatre.org




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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:39:02 -0500
Subject: Re: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
From: Steve Larson <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
Message-ID: <BE6C67F6.4800%tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21434287 [at] prxy.net>

What's with the eyes on peeps.  Are they totally
non-biodegradible?

sjl



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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:42:53 +0100 (BST)
From: Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
Subject: Re: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
In-Reply-To: <list-21436010 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0503271937180.6071 [at] viscount.richmondsounddesign.com>
References: <list-21435487 [at] prxy.net> <list-21436010 [at] prxy.net>

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Mark O'Brien wrote:

> (slow new day, I suppose)

It's never really a slow news day if the 'News' agency is really interested in 
providing truly important information but to consider such a blatantly 
commercial piece as this 'News' beggars the imagination.  I was absolutely 
baffled about this whole thread since Peeps are completely foreign to me and now 
I'm astounded to find out...

Really....  what does any of this have to do with stagecraft????

Charlie

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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:45:22 +0100 (BST)
From: Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
In-Reply-To: <list-21436210 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0503271943210.6071 [at] viscount.richmondsounddesign.com>
References: <list-21435825 [at] prxy.net> <list-21436210 [at] prxy.net>

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Jon Ares wrote:

> Is that called French Toast over here?  Or are we still calling it "Freedom 
> Toast?"  I can't keep that straight.

You must have missed the news because it got preempted by the important piece on 
peeps but Bush has decided France is a friend again...

Sheesh....  when will the world recover a semblance of sanity?

C

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050327200814.016eee58 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:08:14
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage

>Some people are fairly immune, even to our 230V. I am myself.
	and
>I don't believe in taking liberties with potentially lethal things.

Its been reported that folk that exhibit no other negative effects from
exposure to 230V often have a hidden side-effect.  They are no longer able
to identify a joke when one occurs. Frank, fin the guy that is always
laughing in your neighborhood, and have him mark for you the posts that are
just for fun .
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Subject: RE: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:21:24 -0500
Message-ID: <993D0A40B5754441B09BA4FA2A62958522ED88 [at] stage.otc.olneytheatre.org>
From: "Dre Suchoski" <Dsuchoski [at] olneytheatre.org>

> It's never really a slow news day if the 'News' agency is really
interested in providing truly important information but to consider such
a blatantly commercial piece as this 'News' beggars the imagination.  I
was absolutely baffled about this whole thread since Peeps are
completely foreign to me and now I'm astounded to find out...

> Really....  what does any of this have to do with stagecraft????

Well, when you're stuck in tech on Easter weekend it's sort of
stagecraft-relative...

  In case you need to know how to make your own peeps (or wanted to know
how homemade marshmallows work), there was an article in the Washington
Post this afternoon with the recipe:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64626-2005Mar24.html


Dre Suchoski
Properties Artisan
2001 Olney Sandy Spring Road
Olney, MD 20832
shop: 301.924.4485 x122



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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050327201840.016eee58 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:18:40
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Projector Issues

>If I recall this happens around 
>120Hz, but some feel that they can still perceive the flicker 
>inherent in alternating between the three pictures.
>
>More expensive three chip DLP uses separate chips for the three 
>colors each with their own fixed color filter filter, so that the 
>entire image is produced simultaneously.

DLP Technology uses more than one method of reproducing an image, as far as
what portion of the picture is reproduced at what frequency, depending on
source material, what country you're in, their electric current (or freq,
actually) humudity (OK, only kidding...)
Anyhoo, if the image were re-created with red green and blue alternating at
120Hz, it would still be faster-smoother-cleaner than NTSC (US Television)
SECAM (France and other European countries, some of the middle East) and
PAL (the rest of Europe, Japan, everyone else) which run at 50 or 60Hz.
Then there's film, which runs at 24Hz, and doesn't even have teh decency to
have some sort of image retention facility (like the phosphors on a CRT) to
help blend it.  Yeah, if you're a freak and get to see into the UV and ITR
range, or work in some sort of image repro field as a pro, you might be
able to see 120Hz flicker, but the rest of us are probably really happy.
Don't let 'em grind you down, Michael!
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050327202416.016eee58 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:24:16
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: RE: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage

>I wish I had a photo of the most...interesting...adaptor I ever saw -- a
>2P&G stage plug on one end and a 1/4" phone plug on the other.

XLR to Edison adaptors.  The guy had XLR's on his speakers, and had the
adaptors in case he ran out of speaker cable, he could use one of the
venue's (or one of the squints') stingers in a pinch.  This also brought
about the Edison F to Edison F barrel.  Yeah, he finally got out of the biz
and into a rehab...
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050327202750.016eee58 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:27:50
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage

>Let's be fair, XLR-3 connectors are rated for all these jobs, and it 
>must have saved them in cable inventory.

Ah, Frank.  Yes, the connector is rated for all these jobs, but not the
cables.  If you are going to have to use more than one cable anyways, you
might as well use a different connector to signify the diferent job and not
lose any gear in the process.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

------------------------------

Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:35:44 -0500
Message-ID: <000601c53304$2e176ca0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-21437384 [at] prxy.net>

What fascinated me most about the stage pin/quarter inch adaptor was
that they were both male, so the phone plug could well have been hot.


> XLR to Edison adaptors.



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Message-ID: <001701c53307$6e9d08e0$60a83dd0 [at] bna.bellsouth.net>
From: "CHIP WEINSTEIN" <vlwchip [at] bellsouth.net>
References: <list-21424165 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: pulling Marley
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:59:06 -0600

As no one has yet to comment on this method yet I will, we use the personal
lift as the feet of stagehands, after taping down one end of the marley we
then slowly pull the lift across while the other end is being held ,then
taping the stretched marley in place.

CHIP WEINSTEIN
EMPATHY PRODUCTIONS INC.
NASHVILLE, TN
615.417.3154
empathpro [at] bellsouth.net


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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:25:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Boyd Ostroff <ostroff [at] operaphilly.com>
Subject: Re: Projector Issues
In-Reply-To: <list-21437251 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0503271523000.29476 [at] maestro.operaphilly.com>
References: <list-21437251 [at] prxy.net>

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, CB wrote:

> Then there's film, which runs at 24Hz, and doesn't even have teh decency to
> have some sort of image retention facility

Actually this isn't entirely true. Although film is shot at 24fps, the 
projector flashes each frame twice, so there are 48 images shown each 
second.

| Boyd Ostroff
| Director of Design and Technology
| Opera Company of Philadelphia
| http://tech.operaphilly.com
| ostroff [at] operaphilly.com

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References: <list-21424165 [at] prxy.net> <list-21437875 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <ab9752e10ba6a175173e46d3ee6e27b5 [at] email.arizona.edu>
Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien)
From: Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: pulling Marley
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:32:58 -0700

Is this lift extended, with a man in the air?

(ducking...)


Mark O'Brien
Opera Technical Director
University of Arizona, School of Music
Tucson, AZ
520/621-7025
520/591-1803 Mobile


On Mar 27, 2005, at 12:59 PM, CHIP WEINSTEIN wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> As no one has yet to comment on this method yet I will, we use the 
> personal
> lift as the feet of stagehands, after taping down one end of the 
> marley we
> then slowly pull the lift across while the other end is being held 
> ,then
> taping the stretched marley in place.
>
> CHIP WEINSTEIN
> EMPATHY PRODUCTIONS INC.
> NASHVILLE, TN
> 615.417.3154
> empathpro [at] bellsouth.net
>


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Message-ID: <424719B9.F5C8B980 [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:38:17 -0500
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Organization: The  fuzz in the back of the fridge. 
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
References: <list-21433778 [at] prxy.net>



Bill Sapsis wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> OK.  For some of you out there, today's a holiday.  Got a really stupid
> question for those with kids.
>
> What do you do for breakfast on a day like today?  Anything special?
>
> We went for the chocolate chip pancakes today.   mmmmmm.

    For breakfast, I slept in. Had a late loadout last night.  The
conference's
closing night gala ran an hour late, and the talent camped out right in front
of dimmerland to sign autographs and yakk with the fans.  so my actual
breakfast was easter dinner.  Ham, of course.   Every year I suggest having
rabbit for easter dinner, but I'm shouted down.... *sighs*

    --Dale



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Message-ID: <42471AEA.9CF7FE95 [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:43:22 -0500
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Organization: The  fuzz in the back of the fridge. 
Subject: Re: fall arrest standards and rescue
References: <list-21434363 [at] prxy.net>



Frank Kern wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Looking for information regarding the "standards" for theatrical fall
> arrest.  It seems like every industry has their own standard...ours
> seems as if it is still searching for one.  I read some great articles
> from Uncle Bill, and am still searching for more.  Anyone have an
> opinion, other information?  Oh, and when the son-of-a-b*#!h does
> fall, how do you get him down?  Just waxing the philosophical.  Thanks
> for your time.
>
> Frank
>
    In the USA, OSHA standards apply.  More information than you
really wanted to know on the OSHA web site.  When someone does
fall, and they are left dangling, you want to get them down reasonably
quickly.  There is this thing called suspension syndrome (IIRC) that
can screw up a person left dangling in a harness for too long. ( over an

hour ).   Call the local fire department for their assistance and
expertise
of their rescue squad.

    --Dale



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Message-Id: <p0620070ebe6ccaa6e5ba [at] [172.16.1.33]>
In-Reply-To: <list-21435049 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21435049 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:49:08 -0500
From: Eddie Kramer <ESKramer [at] earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Confetti cannons around NYC

On   3/27/05   Herrick Goldman   sent:

>Confetti Canonns, Anyone know who rents them in NYC?



Jauchem & Meeh 718-875-0140
See Factor 718- 784-4200
PRG 212-489-0312

Eddie
-- 
--------------------
Eddie Kramer  IATSE #1     Member NEC Panel 15            

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References: <list-21415268 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <6985b8a87666b9c88b43a1fb51a7108d [at] andrewvance.com>
From: Andrew Vance <andrew [at] andrewvance.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of Genies
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:09:15 -0600

On 26 Mar, 2005, at 21:28, <productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org> 
wrote:
>  Also what the heck is a Platform-locating laser light ?

 From the product brochure [http://www.genielift.com/Brochures/iwps.pdf]:
	"Platform Locating Laser Device:  Attaches directly to the platform 
and projects a laser light on the overhead work area, allowing you to 
position the unit directly beneath it."

--

Sincerely,

Andrew Vance
Lighting Designer
www.andrewvance.com


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Message-ID: <4246CF79.16797.33980701 [at] localhost>
From: "Michael Denison" <mdenison [at] cottey.edu>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:21:29 -0600
Subject: Re: The Latest Word on Peeps (Yes, somewhat OT)
Reply-To: <mdenison [at] cottey.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-21436598 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21436010 [at] prxy.net>

To quote Dr. Samuel Johnson, the Great Lexicographer, and author 
of the first English language dictionary: "There is nothing so trivial 
that I would rather not know it."

> Really....  what does any of this have to do with stagecraft????



Michael A. Denison 
Technical Director 
Cottey College 
1000 West Austin 
Nevada, MO 64772

(417) 667-8181 x 2265
FAX: (417) 667-8103
mdenison [at] cottey.edu
www.cottey.edu



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Subject: RE: Speaking of Genies
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:34:12 -0500
Message-ID: <A01ABA2A211C644596549C5FF91C50E404183B33 [at] EXEVS02.its.uncc.edu>
From: "Fitch, Tracy" <tfitch [at] email.uncc.edu>

To the uninitiated this might also be called a laser pointer u-bolted
inside the corner of the bucket. =20

Really, honestly, that's what it is.  Trust me, I have a factory
installed one on my genie.  Somehow, I expected it to be a bit niftier
-- but no.

> On 26 Mar, 2005, at 21:28, <productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org>
> wrote:
> >  Also what the heck is a Platform-locating laser light ?
>=20
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of
Andrew
> Vance
>  From the product brochure
[http://www.genielift.com/Brochures/iwps.pdf]:
> 	"Platform Locating Laser Device:  Attaches directly to the
platform
> and projects a laser light on the overhead work area, allowing you to
> position the unit directly beneath it."


--Tracy S. Fitch
TD, UNC Charlotte
LD, Everywhere Else

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Message-ID: <b7aa28010503271334d3b3059 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:34:48 -0500
From: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: pulling Marley
In-Reply-To: <list-21438404 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21424165 [at] prxy.net> <list-21437875 [at] prxy.net>
	 <list-21438404 [at] prxy.net>

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:32:58 -0700, Mark O'Brien
<marko [at] email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> Is this lift extended, with a man in the air?
> 
> (ducking...)

Yes, this way they can focus and lay the floor at the same time.

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe [at] gmail.com

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Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050327152443.0209ef10 [at] mail.DesignRelief.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:35:24 -0600
From: Mitch Hefter <stagecraft [at] DesignRelief.com>
Subject: Re: Stump the Electrican
In-Reply-To: <list-21424165 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21424165 [at] prxy.net>


>Bll Conner wrote:
>>Steve Litterst wrote:
>>  "Between this and the "Wild Leg" question at USITT, do we need to have 
>> Eddie
>>  chair a "Stump the Electrician" panel next year?"
>
>That might possibly be Eddie, Mitch Hefter, Ken Vannice, and Steve Terry?
>Someone bring some adult beverages please.
>
>Regards, Bill

Engineering still has a slot or two available for USITT 2006 in 
Louisville.  The questions become:
1) How many would attend ?
2) Can we get the panelists all there at the same time ?

I would have to know in the next couple of weeks on item 1.  I would then 
work on item 2.

As the first round of NEC 2008 meetings will have occurred in January 2006, 
the above Panel 15 members may have some information to provide along with 
requests for support on round 2.  In 2007, we will do our regular NEC 
Update session at both USITT and LDI.





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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:06:09 -0500
Subject: Re: fall arrest standards and rescue
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE6C9880.5D9A%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21438546 [at] prxy.net>

on 3/27/05 3:43 PM, Dale Farmer at dale [at] cybercom.net wrote:

> In the USA, OSHA standards apply.  More information than you
> really wanted to know on the OSHA web site.  When someone does
> fall, and they are left dangling, you want to get them down reasonably
> quickly.  There is this thing called suspension syndrome (IIRC) that
> can screw up a person left dangling in a harness for too long. ( over an
> 
> hour ).   Call the local fire department for their assistance and
> expertise
> of their rescue squad.


Suspension trauma can begin to manifest itself in as little as 5 minutes.
While teaching a class I let myself be suspended from a rig in a fall arrest
harness and continued to speak.  After 7 - 8 minutes I was in trouble.  An
hour is waaaaaaaay too long.

Calling the fire department may or may not be the appropriate thing to do.
All rescue plans are site specific.  These plans must be documented and
rehearsed with the appropriate parties.

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride
http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html




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Message-ID: <297C9E3B63B2D3119C8100508B5ED28F16020086 [at] exchange2.ubc.ca>
From: "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" <chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca>
Subject: Fall Arrest Test video
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:19:27 -0800

I was USITT and heard about a test that Dr. Doom did with a truss, a horizontal life-line, and a 200 lb sandbag in a harness.  Apparently the truss flexed 3', and the sandbag nearly hit the floor.  The truss was 30' up, but once everything moved,
stretched, expanded, etc, the bag almost bottomed out.

Does anyone have a video of this?  

Andrew M. Riter
Head Lighting Technician
Chan Centre for the Performing Arts
University of British Columbia
6265 Crescent Road
Vancouver, BC
V6T 1Z1
604-822-2372
604-822-1606 fax
chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca
 


------------------------------

Message-ID: <000501c5331b$f39bba50$0200a8c0 [at] lpt>
From: <productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org>
Subject: Re: A Marley question
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:25:57 -0600
Organization: Minnesota Ballet

I've tried every method of stretching out a marley floor. Keith's method of 
pulling it from one end while the other is taped down (and a big guy 
standing on it) would work with some brands of Marley I've seen. It depends 
on how thick it is. I've seen Marley so thin and light weight that it could 
be stretched this way. I've got two marley floors of different brands. My 
50' floor is 1/4" thick because of a foam backing. It has to be kicked out 
by at least 4 people, with two pulling at the end. You guys are right about 
the "hopping" just being counter productive. I've always kicked out the 
marley with someone at the end pulling.  I've often wondered if a sod roller 
could be used, but that mostly pushes down, rather than forward. It would be 
nice to find a shortcut to laying the floor.

Kenneth Pogin
Production Manager
Minnesota Ballet 



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Message-ID: <4247332C.1090400 [at] bu.edu>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:26:52 -0500
From: Nicholas Kuhl <nkuhl [at] bu.edu>
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
References: <list-21433778 [at] prxy.net> <list-21438467 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21438467 [at] prxy.net>


>  Every year I suggest having
>rabbit for easter dinner, but I'm shouted down.... *sighs*
>
>    --Dale
>
My family has rabbit every year for easter dinner *grin*.  Stew it all 
day in a nice red wine sauce until the meat is almost ready to fall off 
the bone.  I couldn't tell you how that tradition got started, but 
probably something with my dad trying to freak me out when I was little 
with the fact that we were eating the easter bunny.  Hell, now I wish 
I'd gone home this weekend, damn college, keeping me away from all the 
good food.

Nick Kuhl
Boston University

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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:31:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Projector Issues
In-reply-to: <list-21437251 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <1649.172.156.237.204.1111962676.squirrel [at] 172.156.237.204>
References: <list-21437251 [at] prxy.net>

> ---------------------------------------------------

> Then there's film, which runs at 24Hz, and doesn't even have teh decency
> to
> have some sort of image retention facility (like the phosphors on a CRT)
> to
> help blend it.

They don't need an image retention facility.  It's built into the eye as
persistence of vision.

Steve Litterst


------------------------------

Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:42:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Stump the Electrican
In-reply-to: <list-21439660 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <1704.172.156.237.204.1111963342.squirrel [at] 172.156.237.204>
References: <list-21424165 [at] prxy.net> <list-21439660 [at] prxy.net>

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------

> Engineering still has a slot or two available for USITT 2006 in
> Louisville.  The questions become:
> 1) How many would attend ?
> 2) Can we get the panelists all there at the same time ?
>
> I would have to know in the next couple of weeks on item 1.  I would then
> work on item 2.


If I'm at USITT, I'll be there.  Don't have next year's performance
calendar yet so I can't tell for sure.

Steve Litterst


------------------------------

Message-ID: <61544.66.183.177.34.1111965296.squirrel [at] 66.183.177.34>
In-Reply-To: <list-21438546 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21434363 [at] prxy.net> <list-21438546 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:14:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: fall arrest standards and rescue
From: "Tom Heemskerk" <tommy [at] etainternet.com>

>>
>> Looking for information regarding the "standards" for theatrical fall
>> arrest.  It seems like every industry has their own standard...ours
>> seems as if it is still searching for one.  I read some great articles
>> from Uncle Bill, and am still searching for more.  Anyone have an
>> opinion, other information?  Oh, and when the son-of-a-b*#!h does
>> fall, how do you get him down?  Just waxing the philosophical.  Thanks
>> for your time.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>     In the USA, OSHA standards apply.  More information than you
> really wanted to know on the OSHA web site.  When someone does
> fall, and they are left dangling, you want to get them down reasonably
> quickly.  There is this thing called suspension syndrome (IIRC) that
> can screw up a person left dangling in a harness for too long. ( over an
>
> hour ).   Call the local fire department for their assistance and
> expertise
> of their rescue squad.
>


In BC, a written fall arrest plan is required when there is risk of injury
from falling. It would include a rescue plan for when self-rescue isn't
successful. Check out the "working at heights in the entertainment
industry" manual, which contains form blanks for a fall arrest plan and
for risk assessment.

http://www.shape.bc.ca/resources/publications.html



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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:28:59 -0500
From: Richard Wolpert <richw [at] unionconnector.com>
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW:  Re: Stump the Electrican
In-reply-to: <list-21440502 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <KIEIJNECPAAGNDKNCFBHCEMHDMAA.richw [at] unionconnector.com>

I say we go for it. The panel doesn't have to be "oh, so serious". Sometimes
a little light-hearted fun can teach more than a stiff, formal seminar.
I'll go!. Hell, I'll even do some marketing and mailings for a panel like
this.  Go for it!!!!

Richard A.Wolpert
President
Union Connector Co., Inc.
40 Dale Street
West Babylon, NY  11704
Ph: 631-753-9550 ext. 204
Fx: 631-753-9560
richw [at] unionconnector.com


> Engineering still has a slot or two available for USITT 2006 in
> Louisville.  The questions become:
> 1) How many would attend ?
> 2) Can we get the panelists all there at the same time ?
>
> I would have to know in the next couple of weeks on item 1.  I would then
> work on item 2.


If I'm at USITT, I'll be there.  Don't have next year's performance
calendar yet so I can't tell for sure.

Steve Litterst



------------------------------

From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1f4.6680a22.2f789b68 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:27:36 EST
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT

In a message dated 27/03/05 19:19:07 GMT Daylight Time, jonares [at] hevanet.com 
writes:

> >  I find fried bread
>  > preferable, but I also find it hard to find suitable bread.
>  >
>  
>  
>  Is that called French Toast over here?  Or are we still calling it 
"Freedom 
>  Toast?"  I can't keep that straight.

No. That's a slice of bread soaked in beaten egg and fried. Fried bread is 
exactly what is says. It flavours itself with the bacon fat, and the fat from 
the sausages, if you use them.


Frank Wood

------------------------------

From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <42.65ed10d3.2f789c69 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:31:53 EST
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT

In a message dated 27/03/05 19:46:33 GMT Daylight Time, 
charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com writes:

> Sheesh....  when will the world recover a semblance of sanity?

It's never been good at it. Read history: consider moderm times.

Me, I like it that way. It allows me to feel superior to all the dinks out 
there. Of course, I could be wrong!

Frank Wood

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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:39:06 -0500
From: Richard Wolpert <richw [at] unionconnector.com>
Subject: Photos of electrical practice
In-reply-to: <list-21437580 [at] prxy.net>
Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com
Message-id: <KIEIJNECPAAGNDKNCFBHAEMIDMAA.richw [at] unionconnector.com>


This is a request from all of you out there who have pics ( digital or
otherwise ) of "scary" electrical practices. I'm developing a series of
seminars/classes that will range from basic electricity for neophytes, to
code and engineering issues for consultants and TD's. Having pictures of
things NOT to do would be most helpful. It would also lighten the mood a
bit. Nothing better to wake folks up during a lecture than a picture shown
on the overhead.

I'll give full credit to whoever provides me the pics.  Oh yeah, cartoons
are acceptable as well.


Richard A.Wolpert
President
Union Connector Co., Inc.
40 Dale Street
West Babylon, NY  11704
Ph: 631-753-9550 ext. 204
Fx: 631-753-9560
richw [at] unionconnector.com




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Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050327184052.0417e358 [at] mail.insightbb.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:41:33 -0500
From: Mike Brubaker <mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: fall arrest standards and rescue
In-Reply-To: <list-21440005 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21438546 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-21440005 [at] prxy.net>

What kind of trouble?  What happened?

Mike

At 05:06 PM 3/27/2005, Bill Sapsis wrote:

>harness and continued to speak.  After 7 - 8 minutes I was in trouble.  An
>hour is waaaaaaaay too long.


------------------------------

From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <45.24ed04bc.2f789f94 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:45:24 EST
Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage

In a message dated 27/03/05 20:11:10 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes:

> Its been reported that folk that exhibit no other negative effects from
>  exposure to 230V often have a hidden side-effect.  They are no longer able
>  to identify a joke when one occurs. Frank, fin the guy that is always
>  laughing in your neighborhood, and have him mark for you the posts that are
>  just for fun .

There are subjects about which you can joke. This isn't one of them. Suppose 
someone with less knowledge actually did it.

As you know, on some subjects, I post what many of you take as flame bait. It 
isn't meant as that, but still. But on anything safety related, I am dead 
serious.  Not quite as bad as Dr. Doom, because he knows about things I don't. 
But still serious.


Frank Wood

------------------------------

From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <30.6f4103bf.2f78a052 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:48:34 EST
Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage

In a message dated 27/03/05 20:27:02 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes:

> XLR to Edison adaptors.  The guy had XLR's on his speakers, and had the
>  adaptors in case he ran out of speaker cable, he could use one of the
>  venue's (or one of the squints') stingers in a pinch.  This also brought
>  about the Edison F to Edison F barrel.  Yeah, he finally got out of the biz
>  and into a rehab..

 Oi veh! That's on a par with the outfit which used XLR-3 for everything.


Frank Wood

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:50:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BE6CB107.3156%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21441486 [at] prxy.net>

Awww damn, now ya tell me! I just got back from Manila where 80% of the city
seems to be wired by beavers. It looks like every resident of every hovel
just climbed a pole and added to the rats-nest at the top with more big
black cable. Many time the poles are sagging or leaning drastically.

I never got out of the cab in those locales to get a shot.

BUT THE JEEPNEYS HAVE PRETTY ART.

-H

On 3/27/05 6:39 PM, "Richard Wolpert" <richw [at] unionconnector.com> wrote:

> 
> This is a request from all of you out there who have pics ( digital or
> otherwise ) of "scary" electrical practices.
-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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In-Reply-To: <list-21405108 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21405108 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <8bb992e96058a78779af625ea936988d [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Economy of Momentum (was: Re: Lifting pianos revisited)
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:49:56 -0500

>> I am accused of always looking for the easiest (laziest) way to
>> accomplish a project.  So far I think you win.
>
> P.S. Is that the proper way to respond with a new thread?
> 				Chris "Chris" Babbie
> 				
I am not sure what you mean but I meant with sincere respect.  I 
actually meant that his stagehand that came up with the idea to use the 
lift had a great if not obvious idea.  Much better than a bunch of 
hands gathering around a piano and dead lifting it.
Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


------------------------------

From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <d9.232b4948.2f78a206 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:55:50 EST
Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage

In a message dated 27/03/05 20:30:25 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes:

> Ah, Frank.  Yes, the connector is rated for all these jobs, but not the
>  cables.  If you are going to have to use more than one cable anyways, you
>  might as well use a different connector to signify the diferent job and not
>  lose any gear in the process.

I think you misunderstood. It is not a practice that I should condone. And 
some mic cables are. The BBC's cable RSF 2/5 was rated for 15A, even though it 
was a mic cable.


Frank Wood

------------------------------

From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <19d.3080b110.2f78a467 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:05:59 EST
Subject: Re: Stump the Electrican

In a message dated 27/03/05 22:41:07 GMT Daylight Time, 
stagecraft [at] DesignRelief.com writes:

> Engineering still has a slot or two available for USITT 2006 in 
>  Louisville.  The questions become:
>  1) How many would attend ?
>  2) Can we get the panelists all there at the same time ?
>  
>  I would have to know in the next couple of weeks on item 1.  I would then 
>  work on item 2.

Question one, in what state is it, and can I smoke?

Question two, do you think that a right-ponder's  opinions would be of value?

Question three, when is it?



Frank Wood

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In-Reply-To: <list-21441486 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21441486 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <66baeaaa75ae7c01b45e43154698eaa5 [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:25:51 -0500

I got a couple of free issues of an electrical trade mag that ran a 
monthly photo that had a contest if you could cite the code error in 
the photo(I think it was EC&M by primedia).  Also I will recommend the 
navy website again that I have quoted before. (Also my favorite would 
work for you with the guy on the aluminum ladder in the pool with the 
wired electric drill wearing safety glasses.)  
http://safetycenter.navy.mil/photo/default.htm Go to the index of 
previous photos and there are plenty of electrical photos.

> This is a request from all of you out there who have pics ( digital or
> otherwise ) of "scary" electrical practices.

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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In-Reply-To: <list-21439572 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21439572 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <ac57574bbc7f89438bd05b9be48b862e [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of Genies
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:28:14 -0500

> To the uninitiated this might also be called a laser pointer u-bolted
> inside the corner of the bucket.

For what it probably costs I would have guessed at least a self 
leveling laser but then I guess you are supposed to have the lift 
leveled anyway.

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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In-Reply-To: <list-21433778 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21433778 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <e0c24da2eaf3a903aabba6fadfa437ff [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:29:59 -0500

> What do you do for breakfast on a day like today?  Anything special?

My kids are still young enough and any morning I am home plain Bisquick 
pancakes are a treat.  I am taking advantage of this while I can get 
away with it.

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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In-Reply-To: <list-21405433 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21405433 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <ade79c8877f52ee408473fda9992688e [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:37:29 -0500

I think I mentioned before I had gotten a good deal on some 12 gauge 
90' extension cords so I made 1/4" to edison adaptors as speaker 
jumpers.  This is when I had very little money and even less common 
sense.   A former co-worker had an entire power distro system that had 
edison to speakon when speakons first hit the market.  He had a 
boatload of 12/4 cable that doubled as power/speaker cable.  At least 
he was the only one that did the hookups so if anything go blown up it 
was his fault.

Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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Message-ID: <42475CCA.80A55E5B [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:24:26 -0500
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Organization: The  fuzz in the back of the fridge. 
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
References: <list-21441486 [at] prxy.net>



Richard Wolpert wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> This is a request from all of you out there who have pics ( digital or
> otherwise ) of "scary" electrical practices. I'm developing a series of
> seminars/classes that will range from basic electricity for neophytes, to
> code and engineering issues for consultants and TD's. Having pictures of
> things NOT to do would be most helpful. It would also lighten the mood a
> bit. Nothing better to wake folks up during a lecture than a picture shown
> on the overhead.
>
> I'll give full credit to whoever provides me the pics.  Oh yeah, cartoons
> are acceptable as well.

    No pictures, but several years ago I was visiting a high rise
construction site in Vera Cruz Mexico.  Walked up the open
stairwell ( no railings installed yet ) to the tenth or so floor.
We asked for a portable light to look at some aspect of the
construction, and the guy brought over a bulb, that was just
taped to the bare copper wires on the end of a cord.  The
other end he wrapped the wires around a couple of nails
pounded into a board which had a heavier wire feeding
current up from the ground.   *shakes head*

    --Dale



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Message-ID: <b7318c48050327173165d8e6ba [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:31:45 -0500
From: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fall arrest standards and rescue
In-Reply-To: <list-21441603 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21438546 [at] prxy.net> <list-21440005 [at] prxy.net>
	 <list-21441603 [at] prxy.net>

Unconsciousness.  After 15 minutes death is possible.  I just so
happen to have the article we discusses in Feb. 2004 in front of me
(in this case I knew right where I filed it).  It is "Will Your Safety
Harness Kill You?" You can find on the web at
http://www.cdc.gov/elcosh/docs/d0500/d000568/d000568.html

-Delbert


On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:41:33 -0500, Mike Brubaker
<mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> What kind of trouble?  What happened?
> 
> Mike
> 
> At 05:06 PM 3/27/2005, Bill Sapsis wrote:
> 
> >harness and continued to speak.  After 7 - 8 minutes I was in trouble.  An
> >hour is waaaaaaaay too long.
> 
> 

-- 
Delbert Hall
Phone: 423-772-4255

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Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien)
From: Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:38:02 -0700

Again, no photos, but a few years back in a Ford plant in Brasil,   we 
had to be wearing the safety glasses, but our 400 A power feed was a 
transformer from (god knows what) to 208 5 wire three phase.   The lugs 
were just hanging off the transformer, with the 4/0  bolted to it.   I 
finally convinced them to build a room around it with scaffold, and 
plywood.

Yikes!



Mark O'Brien
Opera Technical Director
University of Arizona, School of Music
Tucson, AZ
520/621-7025
520/591-1803 Mobile



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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:39:07 -0500
From: Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
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Not the worst situations in the world...
http://www.hstech.org/DOE%20grant%20photos/
The last one might be close to what you are looking for.
The first two were from the closet of a school that was requesting
funds for new equipment.... I was on a committee. I didn't feel that
new equipment would be well cared for;-)
The third photo I found of historic interest.

-- 
Take care, Scott

Scott C. Parker

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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:47:38 -0500
From: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Cc: scparker [at] gmail.com (Scott Parker)
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
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Some months back someone posted the URL to a photo of a guy on an
aluminum ladder, in a swimming pool, using a corded electric drill. 
Bottles of "adult beverages" were in the background.  I don't remember
the URL, but maybe someone else does.

-Delbert


On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:39:07 -0500, Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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> 
> Not the worst situations in the world...
> http://www.hstech.org/DOE%20grant%20photos/
> The last one might be close to what you are looking for.
> The first two were from the closet of a school that was requesting
> funds for new equipment.... I was on a committee. I didn't feel that
> new equipment would be well cared for;-)
> The third photo I found of historic interest.
> 
> -- 
> Take care, Scott
> 
> Scott C. Parker
> 

-- 
Delbert Hall
Phone: 423-772-4255

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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:14:34 -0500
From: "Scott C. Parker" <stagecraftlist [at] hstech.org>
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
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http://www.funnypictures.dk/funny-picture-364.htm


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>Some months back someone posted the URL to a photo of a guy on an
>aluminum ladder,

         Scott C. Parker
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         High School Tech Production Web Site
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