Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 21498479; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:03:37 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #346 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:01:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #346 1. Re: Stretchin' marley by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 2. Re: Stretchin' marley by IAEG [at] aol.com 3. Re: Stretchin' marley by IAEG [at] aol.com 4. Re: Photos of electrical practice by Jacqueline Haney Kidwell 5. Job Posting by Bill Sapsis 6. Re: various from digest by "Alex M. Postpischil" 7. Re: Rigging Spreadsheet by "Paul Guncheon" 8. Re: Stretchin' marley by "Jon Ares" 9. Re: Photos of electrical practice by Scott Parker 10. marley by "CHIP WEINSTEIN" 11. How I became a stagehand by Garrison Keillor by Michael Millar 12. Draft means DRAFT by "Karl G. Ruling" 13. Re: Nicopress Sleeves by "Stephen E. Rees" 14. Re: Nicopress Sleeves by IAEG [at] aol.com 15. Re: Straight Jackets needed by "Klyph Stanford" 16. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question by "Klyph Stanford" 17. Cirque in Baltimore by "jknipple" 18. Re: fall arrest standards and rescue by Theatre Safety Programs 19. Re: Photos of electrical practice by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 20. Re: Draft means DRAFT by Delbert Hall 21. Re: fall arrest standards and rescue by "Stephen E. Rees" 22. Re: Straight Jackets needed by "Paul Schreiner" 23. Re: fall arrest standards and rescue by Bill Sapsis 24. Re: Straight Jackets needed by Dale Farmer 25. Re: fall arrest standards and rescue by "Tom Heemskerk" 26. Re: Nicopress Sleeves by "Stephen E. Rees" 27. Re: Draft means DRAFT by "Karl G. Ruling" 28. Jumper Safety (was: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)) by CB 29. Re: Job Posting by David d'Anjou 30. Re: Projector Issues by CB 31. Re: Projector Issues by CB 32. Re: Projector Issues by Boyd Ostroff 33. Re: Economy of Momentum by CB 34. Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage by CB 35. Re: Projector Issues by IAEG [at] aol.com 36. Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage by CB 37. Re: Photos of electrical practice by Wood Chip-P26398 38. Re: Breakfast? VERY OT by CB 39. Re: Projector Issues by Boyd Ostroff 40. Re: Projector Issues by IAEG [at] aol.com 41. Re: Breakfast? VERY OT by Bill Sapsis 42. Re: Breakfast? VERY OT by Brian Munroe 43. box office by Theatre Safety Programs 44. Re: box office by IAEG [at] aol.com 45. Re: Draft means DRAFT by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 46. Re: Somewhat delicate reference question by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 47. Re: Projector Issues by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 48. Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 49. Re: box office by anna labykina 50. Re: Projector Issues by Dale Farmer 51. Re: box office by Stephen Litterst 52. Re: A/C Power Cable by Sunil Rajan 53. Re: \Where can I access the archives and a Marley question by Al Fitch 54. Re: Where can I access the archives and a Marley question by Al Fitch 55. Re: Where can I access the archives and a Marley question by Mark O'Brien 56. Still Life with Iris by "Laurie Swigart" 57. A sad end to a long legacy... Bill McManus by barney 58. Re: Straight Jacket by "Reed Brian" 59. Re: box office by IAEG [at] aol.com 60. Re: Straight Jacket by Jacqueline Haney Kidwell 61. Re: Where can I access the archives and a Marley question by David Marks 62. Re: Stump the Electrician by Mitch Hefter 63. Re: Photos of Electrical Practice by Heather Carter 64. Re: Photos of Electrical Practice by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stretchin' marley Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:37:03 -0500 Chip Weinstein wrote: "As no one has yet to comment on this method yet I will, we use the personal lift as the feet of stagehands, after taping down one end of the marley we then slowly pull the lift across while the other end is being held ,then taping the stretched marley in place." Last time Alvin Ailey Company came through they used a very similar technique. Had a couple of the larger guys sit on a rolling case which got pushed across the marley. It worked brilliantly. and whether the 'stagehand shuffle' works or not it's a lot easier on guy's knees and ankles. Has anyone else who's done a production of 'CHRISTMAS CAROL' ever wondered what Scrooge's company did? I was really happy to know that: 'Scrooge and Marley' must have been the first people to manufacture that dance floor. IIRC the original stuff came from England so it's kind of logical. Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ********** E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act. ********** ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <42.65f239e9.2f79555a [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:40:58 EST Subject: Re: Stretchin' marley In a message dated 3/28/05 7:33:52 AM, Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com writes: << Has anyone else who's done a production of 'CHRISTMAS CAROL' ever wondered what Scrooge's company did? I was really happy to know that: 'Scrooge and Marley' must have been the first people to manufacture that dance floor. IIRC the original stuff came from England so it's kind of logical. >> Scrooge and Marley were in the "Money" business, , I would guess sort of a "private" bank, I'm not certain the state of the petro chemical industry in 1840's England, I think they were still buring whale oil weren't they? Come on Marty, you have a Brit side of the family that can do this sort of research! very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1a6.34affab6.2f7956e9 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:47:37 EST Subject: Re: Stretchin' marley In a message dated 3/28/05 7:33:52 AM, Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com writes: << Last time Alvin Ailey Company came through they used a very similar technique. Had a couple of the larger guys sit on a rolling case which got pushed across the marley. It worked brilliantly. and whether the 'stagehand shuffle' works or not it's a lot easier on guy's knees and ankles. >> i've seen vinyl flooring installed with double face tape for an INDUSTRIAL, , it was the Gerriets floor, a floor on the thinner side , , like perhaps Rosco Floor or something like that, installing a floor with double face, quickly and without bubbles and puckers isn't easy, they had a brand new floor which was in their favor, they had built sort of carpet covered "squeegy's" to push the floor out to the tape on each side, , a 3 - 4 ' 2 x 4 covered with carpet, seemed to work pretty well, , , glad I wasn't responsible for this install, , don't think I could have gotten it done as quickly as they did very best, Keith Arsenault President IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida 813 831 3465 Mr. Arsenault's Office 813 205 0893 Mr. Arsenault's Cellular www.iaeginc.com www.circusnexus.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050328132057.1977.qmail [at] web52003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 05:20:57 -0800 (PST) From: Jacqueline Haney Kidwell Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice In-Reply-To: 6667 --- Scott Parker wrote: > Not the worst situations in the world... > http://www.hstech.org/DOE%20grant%20photos/ .... > The third photo I found of historic interest. Okay, I'll admit to being the clueless one. What IS it? Jacki __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:24:13 -0500 Subject: Job Posting From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Good morning campers. everyone have a nice weekend? good. I've received a job notice from the nice people at Cirque du Soleil. It seems they are looking for a "Head of Automation" for their Zoomanity show at New York, New York in Vegas. The info they sent as an attachment doesn't lend itself to transferring to this list, so....if you are seriously interested, drop me a line and I'll forward the info. Please note that they are looking for a minimum of 5 years experience with Automation. This job is not for newbies or the faint of heart. Thanks Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html ------------------------------ From: "Alex M. Postpischil" Subject: Re: various from digest Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:54:11 -0600 Message-ID: <003001c5339d$9f1dcea0$ba1e4a82 [at] DHKQYC31> In-Reply-To: OK, getting the digest is just way too much work for keeping up with message. I've started a new yahoo account for me to get the messages individually (td_alex63)... Anyway, some quick replies: Rigging software - Del - you're welcome! Rigging standard - Peter Scheu, et al - yes, I realize that getting people to use standards would be monumental - sort of like getting people to use the USITT standards from 1992 (referenced in another reply). Of course, the USITT standards were developed when automation was just getting widespread exposure in academia (though mechanization had been around for a while). The USITT standards only cover rigging hardware attached to flats and not sheaves, spot lines, motor points, control points (eg, limit switches, PLCs, etc). Bill Sapsis - faint of wallet is the story of my year, looking to move on to greener pastures from here... Bad employment experience - list on resume, but don't list as reference (don't mention in cover letter not to contact, simply list other people who will give a good reference). One of my former employers (The Washington Opera) has a policy of not providing any references (good or bad) other than to verify employment dates to other prospective employers. I was able to get around this by the fact that my TD left around the same time I did and I was able to get him as a reference outside of the opera... Then there's this: >Frank, >In the United States, employers are only allowed to contact references >that are listed by the job candidate. If the job candidate doesn't list a >former employer, they can't be contacted. Is this clear? >Dave Marks One of my current co-workers filed a complaint against a hiring company because they contacted someone that was not on his reference list (the bumped into a former co-worker who didn't like my current co-worker). I don't know the outcome (I do know he didn't go work for that company), but it's nice to know we have some recourse through the EEOC. -alex- Alex M. Postpischil, Technical Director Department of Theatre Arts University of Mississippi University, MS 38677 662.915.6993 662.915.5968 - fax ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 03:55:34 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Rigging Spreadsheet Message-id: <000701c5339d$d0d6fe80$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: >True. But if you're working to within 37/64ths tolerance you are no longer rigging. It's now become brain surgery. > Since when have riggers known anything about > tolerance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >oooooooooooooooooo. That's cruel. 37/64 is knitpicking. It's not crewel. Sorry, Paul "I must stop chewing my pillow!" said Tom, a little down in the mouth. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000701c533a0$38826220$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Stretchin' marley Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 06:12:48 -0800 > << Has anyone else who's done a production of 'CHRISTMAS CAROL' ever > wondered > what Scrooge's company did? They gave out payday loans and loans against the title of your carriage/horse. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c998050328061612d04493 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:16:45 -0500 From: Scott Parker Reply-To: Scott Parker Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice In-Reply-To: References: The short answer: Light Board.... longer answer: The black handles pull/push the rods that go through the holes in the cover plates. Behind those covers are resistance dimmers that feed the lights. These dimmers would be similar to: http://www.hstech.org/howto/electric/dimmers.htm This board is located in a church that a school uses as an auditorium. Good question... hth, Scott ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003d01c533a8$3e91ec00$60a83dd0 [at] bna.bellsouth.net> From: "CHIP WEINSTEIN" References: Subject: marley Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:10:11 -0600 We sometimes borrow the fat lady from the opera to use as 'ballast in the basket' to get the extra 37/64 of stretch. CHIP ------------------------------ Message-ID: <424826B5.1090205 [at] ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:45:57 -0800 From: Michael Millar Subject: How I became a stagehand by Garrison Keillor It was a rebroadcast from 2 years ago, but very funny. The transcript is here: http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/20030419/bassoon.shtml Michael ------------------------------ From: "Karl G. Ruling" Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:08:41 -0500 Subject: Draft means DRAFT Reply-to: kruling [at] esta.org Message-ID: <4247E5B9.14003.7682DE [at] localhost> In-reply-to: Delbert Hall wrote: > And while this is a "draft" document, as a whole, many of the things > in this document are NOT mearly preliminary. For example: the > document contains excellent definations and descriptions of many very > important rigging terms and hardware items. While this document (like > other ESTA drafts) is not a standard, it is a collection of > information about stage rigging that is not availble in any other > single document that I am aware of. Therefore, while recognizing it > for what it is, I also recognize it for the wealth of knowledge that > it holds. Your statement about some of the document NOT being preliminary is simply wrong. You like the definitions; how do you know that the Rigging Working Group won't decide that some of the definitions you like are wrong? You don't know. It's a draft document, and ALL of it is subject to change. So, let me state this forcefully: BSR E1.4 IS A DRAFT DOCUMENT. BSR E1.4 IS NOT APPROVED. BSR E1.4 MAY CONTAIN SERIOUS ERRORS OR OMISSIONS. NO STATEMENT IS MADE OR IMPLIED ABOUT THE ACCURACY OF ANY INFORMATION IN ANY DRAFT DOCUMENT. IT IS FOOLISH TO ASSUME THAT ANY OF BSR E1.4 IS CORRECT UNTIL THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT IS APPROVED. BSR E1.4 IS MADE AVAILABLE ONLY FOR PUBLIC REVIEW TO REFINE THE DOCUMENT. IT IS NOT MADE AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE TO USE IT AS A DESIGN SPECIFICATION. Have I been clear? Best regards, Karl G. Ruling Technical Standards Manager ESTA 875 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1005 New York, NY 10001 +1-212-244-1505 Fax +1-212-244-1502 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42482E7F.4070007 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:19:11 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Nicopress Sleeves References: Robert, I noticed that there have not been any replies to this post, so I'll give it a go. I use oval sleeves and round stops for most of my terminations on 1/8" and 3/16" wire rope. I used to use aluminum almost exclusively. After listening to people on this list whom I know well and whose advise I trust, I now have seen the wisdom of using copper. If I'm lifting anything overhead, I use copper. The price differential is not that great. BTW, I used to use malleable wire rope clips as well. I threw them away about 10 years ago and only buy forged clips now. For some of my applications, these choices may seem to be overkill but we have just standardized on the more highly rated hardware. We are engaged in training future riggers and stagehands and I'm trying to foster good habits early. There are a number of purveyors of such items on this list. Regards, Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia Robert Barnwell wrote: [snip] > I'm interested in getting everyone's thoughts on Nicopress sleeves, mainly > regarding Copper and Aluminum sleeves. ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <191.3bf6acc6.2f798994 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:23:48 EST Subject: Re: Nicopress Sleeves In a message dated 3/28/05 11:20:20 AM, Rees [at] fredonia.edu writes: << I noticed that there have not been any replies to this post, so I'll give it a go. >> guess you didn't see Uncle Bill's ? ? very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ From: "Klyph Stanford" Subject: RE: Straight Jackets needed Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:27:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Subject: RE: Somewhat delicate reference question Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:35:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: From: "jknipple" Is there anyone on the list who's on Cirque's Varekai tour heading to = Baltimore in May/June? Could you email me off list? TIA Jim James Knipple =A0 Technical Director REP Stage - www.howardcc.edu/repstage Student-Alumni Arts - Howard Community College=20 - www.howardcc.edu/studentarts jknipple [at] howardcc.edu 410-772-4451 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050328094406.01ff77c0 [at] mail.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:49:33 -0700 From: Theatre Safety Programs Subject: re: fall arrest standards and rescue OSHA regulates fall protection in two places: 1) For General Industry: 29CFR1910 Subpart D, Walking and Working Surfaces Section .21 through Section .30 Fall protection required at falls of 4 feet or greater 2) For Construction 29CFR1926.500 Subpart M, Fall Protection Fall protection required at falls of 6 feet or greater There is also an ANSI Standard: ANSI Z359.1-1992 (R1999) - Safety Requirements for Personal Fall Arrest Systems, Subsystems and Components NIOSH has a set of fall protection checklists: www.cdc.gov/niosh/homepage.html - search for "fall protection" OSHA requires that when fall protection equipment (PPE) is used there shall be a rescue plan. You CAN NOT rely on the Fire Department - First, the response time may be ( and probably will be when setup time is included) inadequate - Second, they are not really equipped for this type of high angle rescue. You must protect against: Falls from unprotected sides or edges Falls through holes in walking or working surfaces Falling objects Training must be provided to employees who might be exposed to fall hazards Training to include: Applicable OSHA standards How to recognize the hazards of falling Procedures to minimize fall hazards Nature of the fall hazards in the work area Proper inspection, erection, use, disassembly, maintenance and storage of fall protection systems and equipment to be used. Use and operation of guardrail and fall arrest systems. Jerry Gorrell Technical Director Phoenix Stages City of Phoenix Principal, Theatre Safety Programs ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:03:54 EST Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice Again, no picture. But I remember servicing a lantern once. The earth wire was green. That may not sound too surprising, but it was the green of corrosion, not of insulation. That had long gone. PVC does not like working at 200C. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:43:38 -0500 From: Delbert Hall Reply-To: Delbert Hall Cc: kruling [at] esta.org Subject: Re: Draft means DRAFT In-Reply-To: References:

Come on Karl, I did not say that the document as a whole is not preliminary. In fact I said it was. What I said is that individual parts are factual statements that cannot be denied just because they are in a "draft" document. For example, section 3.9.1 says "Counterweight arbors shall be designed to hold weights for balancing loads in a manner that permits safe handling and easy access while retaining the counterweights within the arbor, even in the case of unexpected impact..." What in the about this statement is untrue? Nothing that I know of. Yes, ESTA may decide to make minor changes in definations. It may decide that a Sandbag is not a "Fabric bag filled with sand, and used with rope rigging to counterbalance a load." But that defination works for me. I am not using Draft BSR E1.4 as a design specification, as you implied. I am using Draft BSR E1.4 to in preparing a lecture on counterweight systems. I was NOT planning on distributing the document or referencing it specificly within the lecture, mearly using it to refresh my on memory of a couple of specific items. I do not understand what you feel is wrong with publicly complimenting a execllent set of priliminary specifications (which is what I did)? I did not mean to upset you by doing so. -Delbert -- Delbert Hall Phone: 423-772-4255 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4248430C.5070700 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:46:52 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: fall arrest standards and rescue References: In our community, the fire department would probably NOT be able to facilitate a rescue within a reasonable period of time with the gear they generally have to hand. It is more likely that the rescuers who fetch climbers and kayakers out of the deep gorges in the area would need to be called upon for high angle retrieval from a protected fall. It would take time for them to arrive - probably longer than you want to be suspended in a harness. Manufacturers do make retrieval equipment that should be made available as part of a fall protection install. I do not claim to be an expert in this area but it seems that fall protection is only half the story. Retrieval is the other half and it is more important if the person who fell is injured or otherwise unable to assist in their retrieval. Best, Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia Bill Sapsis wrote: [snippage] > Suspension trauma can begin to manifest itself in as little as 5 minutes. > > > Calling the fire department may or may not be the appropriate thing to do. > All rescue plans are site specific. These plans must be documented and > rehearsed with the appropriate parties. > > Bill S. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Straight Jackets needed Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:53:37 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C78D [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > No actor should ever be immobilized.=20 >=20 > Well, I can think of a few. ;) I used to ponder that...figuring that immobilizing actors would be somewhat satisfying. Then I realized that moving targets are much more fun to try to hit! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:12:26 -0500 Subject: Re: fall arrest standards and rescue From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 3/28/05 12:46 PM, Stephen E. Rees at Rees [at] fredonia.edu wrote: > In our community, the fire department would probably NOT be able to > facilitate a rescue within a reasonable period of time with the gear > they generally have to hand. It is more likely that the rescuers who > fetch climbers and kayakers out of the deep gorges in the area would > need to be called upon for high angle retrieval from a protected fall. > It would take time for them to arrive - probably longer than you want to > be suspended in a harness. Manufacturers do make retrieval equipment > that should be made available as part of a fall protection install. I > do not claim to be an expert in this area but it seems that fall > protection is only half the story. Retrieval is the other half and it > is more important if the person who fell is injured or otherwise unable > to assist in their retrieval. Steve has the right of it. The fire department may look like the right folks to call to affect a rescue, but they seldom are. you MUST make sure that you have the proper authorites/persons/organizations...whomever...involved in the rescue. And, yes, retrieval is half the battle. And, in the "for what it's worth" department. There is an article available that attempts to clarify some of the points made in the article "Will Your safety Harness Kill You?" That article can be found at http://www.cdc.gov/elcosh/docs/d0600/d000639/d000639.html You should note that the documents being referenced by myself and others on this list are not standards or regulations or anything. There are simply articles written (and written well, IMHO) for magazines. In this case the Occupational Health and Safety magazine. They are also 2-3 years old. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html ------------------------------ Message-ID: <424848D4.503598FA [at] cybercom.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:11:32 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Straight Jackets needed References: Paul Schreiner wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > No actor should ever be immobilized. > > > > Well, I can think of a few. ;) > > I used to ponder that...figuring that immobilizing actors would be > somewhat satisfying. > > Then I realized that moving targets are much more fun to try to hit! That's when someone like Davie Dimmers puts flash pots underneath the marley floor. When you think the dancer is standing on top of the flashpot, press the button. Would make pretty much any dance performance more interesting... *grins* --Dale ( who wouldn't do this at home. ) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <63294.66.183.177.34.1112033907.squirrel [at] 66.183.177.34> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:18:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: fall arrest standards and rescue From: "Tom Heemskerk" > In our community, the fire department would probably NOT be able to > facilitate a rescue within a reasonable period of time with the gear > they generally have to hand. So, if you want the fire dep't to be part of a rescue plan, you MUST talk to them first. They will need to see the site and work out whether they can do it or not. Last thing you and the fire dep't want is for them to show up with a pumper truck..... yup, that happened in Vancouver, fortunately for a worker stranded in a bucket lift. th ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42484CF1.3060700 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:29:05 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Nicopress Sleeves References: ummm, yeah. I did not. sorry. Steve IAEG [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > In a message dated 3/28/05 11:20:20 AM, Rees [at] fredonia.edu writes: > > << I noticed that there have not been any replies to this post, so I'll > give it a go. >> > > guess you didn't see Uncle Bill's ? ? > > very best, > > Keith Arsenault > > IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group > Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ From: "Karl G. Ruling" Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:32:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Draft means DRAFT Reply-to: kruling [at] esta.org Message-ID: <4248076A.5610.FA1F30 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: References: Delbert Hall wrote: > Come on Karl, I did not say that the document as a whole is not > preliminary. In fact I said it was. What I said is that individual > parts are factual statements that cannot be denied just because they > are in a "draft" document. That these are "factual" statements is your opinion. We have lots of people who tell us at various stages in the public review process for standards that the definitions are wrong. Those people might be right. All of the document is subject to change, even the parts that you think are right. You can say that YOU think it is right, but that doesn't mean it IS right. The consensus of informed opinion in the industry may not agree with you. We do not know what that consensus is until the document is approved. It is not approved, it is a DRAFT document. It says DRAFT on every page, even the definitions pages. It is important that members of the public understand that ESTA and Accredited Standards Committee E1 make no representation in offering a DRAFT standard for public review that any part of the document is correct or constitutes good guidance. There may be serious errors or omissions. Best regards, Karl G. Ruling Technical Standards Manager ESTA 875 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1005 New York, NY 10001 +1-212-244-1505 Fax +1-212-244-1502 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050328200025.016f1660 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:00:25 From: CB Subject: Jumper Safety (was: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)) >When hooking up, the LAST connection you make >is a ground someplace on the engine well away from the battery >(this connection will usually spark, sometimes quite enthusiastically; So, as I remember it, the two hots are made, then the ground on the Neg of teh 'good' battery, then grounding the 'bad' battery through the frame or the engine somewhere. Is that the correct procedure? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <96c90e34050328110240e4c38 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:02:32 -0500 From: David d'Anjou Reply-To: David d'Anjou Subject: Re: Job Posting In-Reply-To: References:

You can also see the job description (and a couple more juinor automations postings) at http://www.cirquedusoleil.com/joincirque/ -D On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:24:13 -0500, Bill Sapsis wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Good morning campers. everyone have a nice weekend? good. > > I've received a job notice from the nice people at Cirque du Soleil. It > seems they are looking for a "Head of Automation" for their Zoomanity show > at New York, New York in Vegas. The info they sent as an attachment doesn't > lend itself to transferring to this list, so....if you are seriously > interested, drop me a line and I'll forward the info. Please note that they > are looking for a minimum of 5 years experience with Automation. This job > is not for newbies or the faint of heart. > > Thanks > Bill S. > > www.sapsis-rigging.com > 800.727.7471 > 800.292.3851 fax > 267.278.4561 mobile > > Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride > http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html > > -- David d'Anjou Technical Communications Supervisor Cirque du Soleil ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050328201202.016f1660 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:12:02 From: CB Subject: Re: Projector Issues > the >projector flashes each frame twice, so there are 48 images shown each >second. HMMmmm... I never knew that. I guess that I always worked at teh input stages of that industry. So, the rate is obviously still 24 fps on playback, just that they interrupt each frame with black for a short period of time? If you mean the film to represent time as time normally flows, let's, just for the moment, ignore running the film slow or fast to show slo-mo or time lapse, etc., it still runs back at 24 fps. Why would they have two frames each and run it twice as fast? I'm sure that there is a reason, but it escapes me at the moment. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050328201955.016f1660 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:19:55 From: CB Subject: Re: Projector Issues >They don't need an image retention facility. It's built into the eye as >persistence of vision. Actually, the persistenc eof vision that helps you in the theater is built into the brain. This is why you don't see the 30Hz flicker of the television on the wall, but you'll see the flicker of the 24Hz projector. TV screens (well, crt's) are an almost constant light source, whereas a projector turns on and off. While you look at the movie screen, your eyes and brain conspire to show you smooth, but if you don't EXPECT smooth (as in watching the inside of a projection booth) you see the flicker. 'S'wierd... You're right, though, I should have said "additional and supplimentary image retention system". Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:22:35 -0500 (EST) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Projector Issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, CB wrote: > Why would they have two frames each and run it twice as fast? I'm sure > that there is a reason, but it escapes me at the moment. Just to clarify... the film isn't running "twice as fast," it's going through the projector at 24 fps. The projector has a spinning shutter wheel with two openings which pass through the aperture during each frame so that it flashes twice. My understanding is that they did tests during the early days of cinema, and that the dark period between frames at 24fps was perceived as an obvious flicker. However the more frequent dark periods at 1/48 second intervals were not. | Boyd Ostroff | Director of Design and Technology | Opera Company of Philadelphia | http://tech.operaphilly.com | ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050328202654.016f1660 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:26:54 From: CB Subject: Re: Economy of Momentum >I am not sure what you mean but I meant with sincere respect. I >actually meant that his stagehand that came up with the idea to use the >lift had a great if not obvious idea. I meant the same thing you did. Mankind has made it to where we are by being exceptionally lazy, and in a hurry. Most of our better inventions were those that left us more free time, and those that had a machine do in a few minutes what it would have taken a man a bucket of sweat to do all day. This phenomenon is referred to as 'genius' by those with brains, and 'slack' by those with only brawn. I, too, salute the use of the lift as genius. The other thing was just an aside to get a consensus if the timing/method of changing the subject for proper threading was correct. Now, if I lose the (was:) portion of the subject line, does it still follow? ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050328202951.016f1660 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:29:51 From: CB Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage >The BBC's cable RSF 2/5 was rated for 15A, even though it >was a mic cable. 15A isn't all that much over here, Frank, and they'd all have to be mic cables, as those would be the most sensitive to cable construction issues. Something tells me that it's be cheaper to use the correct cable and connector in any case. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <7f.5adcbde0.2f79ba58 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:51:52 EST Subject: Re: Projector Issues In a message dated 3/28/05 2:25:45 PM, ostroff [at] operaphilly.com writes: << On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, CB wrote: > Why would they have two frames each and run it twice as fast? I'm sure > that there is a reason, but it escapes me at the moment. Just to clarify... the film isn't running "twice as fast," it's going through the projector at 24 fps. The projector has a spinning shutter wheel with two openings which pass through the aperture during each frame so that it flashes twice. My understanding is that they did tests during the early days of cinema, and that the dark period between frames at 24fps was perceived as an obvious flicker. However the more frequent dark periods at 1/48 second intervals were not. >> hummm, , , Boyd, , my understanding is that ( at least in some formats ) there are actually duplicate frames, , , also makes the splices when you have to "make up" and "break down" a film a tad less critical if you damage or snip off a frame. Missing one frame of an image that is normally projected twice is less of an jolt to the eye than losing the image all together, I won't ABSOLUTELY swear to the above, , but my limited experience with film years ago leads me to the above conclusion. then again, I could be completely wrong, , , very best, Keith Arsenault ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050328205346.016f1660 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:53:46 From: CB Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage > A former co-worker had an entire power distro system that had >edison to speakon when speakons first hit the market. He had a >boatload of 12/4 cable that doubled as power/speaker cable. I have a friend that can recommend a great rehab facility here in the Tucson area... ; > Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014D202957F6D8118924000F20D7342B048AE071 [at] az33exm01.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: Photos of electrical practice Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:59:41 -0700 Looking for a home in the D.C. area. Saw this exact same A/C wires wrapped around nails driven in floor joists for connector posts in basement rec room. Did not buy house. Chip Wood -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Dale Farmer the guy brought over a bulb, that was just taped to the bare copper wires on the end of a cord. The other end he wrapped the wires around a couple of nails pounded into a board which had a heavier wire feeding current up from the ground. *shakes head* --Dale ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050328210356.016f1660 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:03:56 From: CB Subject: Re: Breakfast? VERY OT >> Is that called French Toast over here? Or are we still calling it >"Freedom >> Toast?" I can't keep that straight. > >No. That's a slice of bread soaked in beaten egg and fried. Fried bread is >exactly what is says. Colloqially referred to, on this side of the ditch, as 'French Toast', or 'Freedom Toast' to those that aren't able to think for themselves. Two countries seperated by a common language, and all. 'Fried Bread' on this side referes to bread dough that has been fried instead of baked. Take a roll sized pice of bread dough (the frozen rolls you find in the grocery will suffice) and stretch it out to a small pizza shape, and plop it in some sizzling butter. Fry both sides and top it with fruit, jelly, syrup, whatever. Oh, and on holidays, I have whatever I want, but very late in the day. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:08:42 -0500 (EST) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Projector Issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 IAEG [at] aol.com wrote: > then again, I could be completely wrong, , , So could I! It's been a long time since I ran a 35mm projector :-) Whatever. The only real point is that something flashes on the screen more often than 24 times each second.. | Boyd Ostroff | Director of Design and Technology | Opera Company of Philadelphia | http://tech.operaphilly.com | ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:13:33 EST Subject: Re: Projector Issues In a message dated 3/28/05 3:11:47 PM, ostroff [at] operaphilly.com writes: << Whatever. The only real point is that something flashes on the screen more often than 24 times each second.. >> that I agree with, and if I am not mistaken, , when you get up to IMAX, , you are talking a much higher number of frames per second AND they are all unique images,, no repeats very best, Keith Arsenault ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:32:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Breakfast? VERY OT From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 3/28/05 9:03 PM, CB at psyd [at] cox.net wrote: > Oh, and on holidays, I have whatever I want, but very late in the day. You obviously do not have kids.....<> www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:32:43 -0500 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: Breakfast? VERY OT In-Reply-To: References:

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:32:06 -0500, Bill Sapsis wrote: > on 3/28/05 9:03 PM, CB at psyd [at] cox.net wrote: > > > Oh, and on holidays, I have whatever I want, but very late in the day. > > You obviously do not have kids.....<> "very late in the day" with kids means about 8:30 ! Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050328142121.01f8ba88 [at] mail.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:22:09 -0700 From: Theatre Safety Programs Subject: box office does anyone know the origin of the term "box office" Jerry Gorrell ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1fa.54e1bcd.2f79d002 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:24:18 EST Subject: Re: box office In a message dated 3/28/05 4:23:32 PM, theatresafe [at] jgorrell.com writes: << does anyone know the origin of the term "box office" Jerry Gorrell >> interesting question, , , I am looking forward to the scholarship of the list on this one ! very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:28:04 GMT Subject: Re: Draft means DRAFT Message-Id: <20050328.132857.28529.98560 [at] webmail11.lax.untd.com> As a corollary, many people have purchased 'Pre-N' wireless network hardware. The fact that it may never be approved does not seem to deter them, as it may still be better than nothing, and probably better than what they have now, or there would be no reason to upgrade. /s/ Richard It is important that members of the public understand that ESTA and Accredited Standards Committee E1 make no representation in offering a DRAFT standard for public review that any part of the document is correct or constitutes good guidance. There may be serious errors or omissions. Best regards, Karl G. Ruling Technical Standards Manager ESTA ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:34:54 GMT Subject: Re: Somewhat delicate reference question Message-Id: <20050328.133544.28529.98671 [at] webmail11.lax.untd.com> SHHHH! Cool it on the trade secrets! /s/ Richard Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:10:36 EST Subject: Re: Projector Issues In a message dated 28/03/05 20:16:57 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > HMMmmm... I never knew that. I guess that I always worked at teh input > stages of that industry. So, the rate is obviously still 24 fps on > playback, just that they interrupt each frame with black for a short period > of time? If you mean the film to represent time as time normally flows, > let's, just for the moment, ignore running the film slow or fast to show > slo-mo or time lapse, etc., it still runs back at 24 fps. Why would they > have two frames each and run it twice as fast? I'm sure that there is a > reason, but it escapes me at the moment. Flicker rate. Most people can detect a 24fps flicker. Upping it to 48fps, and they can'r. Most projectors do this. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <144.4273baef.2f79de57 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:25:27 EST Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage In a message dated 28/03/05 20:32:24 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > >The BBC's cable RSF 2/5 was rated for 15A, even though it > >was a mic cable. > > 15A isn't all that much over here, Frank, and they'd all have to be mic > cables, as those would be the most sensitive to cable construction issues. > Something tells me that it's be cheaper to use the correct cable and > connector in any case. I know. Your low-voltage supplies are a constant ptoblem to me. I always have to double the current, and I am not familiar with AWG. We specify cables by their cross sectional area, in square millimeters. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050328224518.92084.qmail [at] web50104.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:45:18 -0800 (PST) From: anna labykina Subject: Re: box office In-Reply-To: 6667 A quick internet search yields: From http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?l=b&p=16 "box (n.1.) O.E. "a wooden container," also "type of shrub," from L.L. buxis, from Gk. pyxis "boxwood box," from pyxos "box tree," of uncertain origin. Slang meaning "vulva" is 17c. Box office is 1786; in the fig. sense of "financial element of a performance" it is first recorded 1904. Boxing-day (1849) "first weekday after Christmas," on which postmen and others expect to receive a Christmas present, originally in ref. to the custom of distributing the contents of the Christmas box, which was placed in the church for charity collections." Also, From http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/13/messages/891.html "BOX OFFICE - "Most likely 'box office' derives from the theater office that sold box seats to customers. But an old story insists that the expression originated in Elizabethan times, when theater admission was collected by passing a box attached to a long stick among the audience." "Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins" by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997). The "Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins" by William and Mary Morris (HarperCollins, New York, 1977, 1988) gives the same origin and discounts the collection story also." Personally, it�s odd that we use such a term for �an office that sells tickets� because the majority of other European languages use terms that actually have something to do with selling tickets� Anna __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42488DD2.110DE339 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:05:54 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Projector Issues References: IAEG [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 3/28/05 3:11:47 PM, ostroff [at] operaphilly.com writes: > > << Whatever. The only real point is that something flashes on the screen more > often than 24 times each second.. >> > > that I agree with, > > and > > if I am not mistaken, , > > when you get up to IMAX, , you are talking a much higher number of frames per > second AND they are all unique images,, no repeats > > very best, > > Keith Arsenault Imax is something like 48 fps, Omnimax is 72 fps, if I remember correctly. Uses 70mm film, run through the projector sideways, so each frame has four times the image when compared to 35mm film. ( actually a bit more than four times the image, as they don't lose footprint on the film for the sound track like 35mm film. ) --Dale ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:08:52 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: box office Message-id: <42488E84.B21BC0D0 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: anna labykina wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > Personally, it�s odd that we use such a term for �an > office that sells tickets� because the majority of > other European languages use terms that actually have > something to do with selling tickets� I am gently scolded by our Arts Management students every time I use the term "Box Office." "We sell tickets, not boxes. It's a ticket office." Steve Litterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <7E873496-9FE3-11D9-8DC9-000A95BD64AC [at] earthlink.net> From: Sunil Rajan Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:45:41 -0500 On Mar 28, 2005, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote: > From: CB > Subject: RE: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage > >> I wish I had a photo of the most...interesting...adaptor I ever saw >> -- a >> 2P&G stage plug on one end and a 1/4" phone plug on the other. > > XLR to Edison adaptors. The guy had XLR's on his speakers, and had the > adaptors in case he ran out of speaker cable, he could use one of the > venue's (or one of the squints') stingers in a pinch. This also > brought > about the Edison F to Edison F barrel. Yeah, he finally got out of > the biz > and into a rehab... > Actually, the whole XLR/Edison thing was fairly common for a LOT of sound companies in the 80's! Coolest adaptor I saw was a MKE-2 microphone to Cam-Lok! The kicker is that it actually WORKED (as in, we made the reverse Cam-Lok to Lemo, and tried it on a SK-50 beltpack)! It was a slow day in tech... Cheers, Sunil Rajan Freelance Audio Mercenary ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050329000026.57670.qmail [at] web51406.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:00:25 -0800 (PST) From: Al Fitch Subject: RE:\Where can I access the archives and a Marley question In-Reply-To: Be Kind, Smile and Have Fun. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050329000852.99678.qmail [at] web51410.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:08:52 -0800 (PST) From: Al Fitch Subject: Re: Where can I access the archives and a Marley question In-Reply-To: Thanks for the ideas for clearing the scuff marks on my Marley. If you ever want to hear what a paranoid dancer sounds like, tell them you might consider using brake fluid on their floor! It turned out that the scuff marks were minor in comparison to the gum chunks in the wing area of the floor so I'm going to leave well enough alone and hopefully replace the floor this summer. In light of the other discussions about putting the floor down I have to add our technique: We roll all panels out across the stage. Place the one furthest downstage to get a starting point. Tape one side of it with three perpendicular pieces of gaff running off stage then run tape parallel with the off stage edge of the dance floor. Next we go to the other side of the stage and prepare three pieces of the perpendicular tape by flipping it over itself. Next, pull real hard on the floor to stretch it and flip the perpendicular (have I used that word enough) tape down before loosing the stretch. No Marley shuffle is needed on this old floor. Three pieces of 6" gaff is put on the upstage side of each panel at quarter stage and center stage. Clear dance floor tape is used for the long runs across stage. This is all done by one person. Sometimes two if the timing and the schedule aligns itself. I have this to look forward to tonight after orchestra rehearsal. I wonder how the new floor will react to one person pulling it? :) Al Fitch Be Kind, Smile and Have Fun. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <790e928b6465a98ecc304d563b42cc4c [at] email.arizona.edu> Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Where can I access the archives and a Marley question Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:20:43 -0700 That would be _brake CLEAN_ Not brake fluid. Brake clean is a very nasty carcinogenic toxic substance that makes one stoned. Best used outdoors with lots o' ventilation, and a respirator. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Mar 28, 2005, at 5:08 PM, Al Fitch wrote: > Thanks for the ideas for clearing the scuff marks on > my Marley. If you ever want to hear what a paranoid > dancer sounds like, tell them you might consider using > brake fluid on their floor! ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Laurie Swigart" Subject: Still Life with Iris Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:36:48 -0600 ANNOUNCING - ENCORE PERFORMANCE Still Life with Iris Friday, April 1 [at] 7:30 p.m. Sparta High School Auditorium 506 N Black River Street Sparta, WI 54656 General Admission tickets - sold at door Adults - $6; Students, Srs. - $4 This piece is the first play for young audiences to receive the Kennedy Center's Fund for New American Plays Award. Still Life with Iris is a fantastical adventure which centers on a little girl's search for the simplest of things: home. Iris lives with her mom in the land of Nocturno�a magical place in which the workers make, by night, all of the things we see in the world by day. Also, in Nocturno, memories do not reside in people's minds but instead are kept in their coats (called �Past Coats'). The rulers of Nocturno, the Great Goods, are determined to have the "best" of everything on their island�and therefore take Iris away from her home and bring her to Great Island to be their daughter. To ease the pain of this separation, they remove her Past Coat, leaving her with no memory of her home or her family. All that remains of Iris' past is a single button from her coat. Using the button as a clue, Iris joins with friends she meets on her journey�Annabel Lee (a young woman from the sea) and Mozart (the composer, age 11)�and frees herself from the Great Goods. She returns to Nocturno, having found her past, her home, and a wonderful surprise. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4248AEF7.1050105 [at] JosephCHansen.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:27:19 -0500 From: barney Subject: A sad end to a long legacy... Bill McManus References: In-Reply-To: <> Bill McManus, one of the early pioneers of rock and roll lighting and the president of both McManus Enterprises and PeakBeam Systems, passed away on Thursday, January 13, 2005, it seems his company will not continue without him. I received the flier in the mail for the auction. Those interested, the auction houses website is www.comly.com. The auction will be held 4/13 and 4/14. Including *VEHICLES, THEATRICAL LIGHT FIXTURES, SPECIAL EFFECTS, LIGHTING & EFFECTS, **SOUND EQUIP., STAGING, FLOORING, CABLES, ADAPTERS, COLOR MEDIA* * PATTERNS, TAPES, MAKE-UP, LAMPS,* RIP Bill. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Straight Jacket Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:07:59 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Reed Brian" For a straight jacket, I checked Debbie's Book online (http://www.debbiesbook.com), but Debbie didn't have any listed. =20 Nevertheless, Debbie has a list of helpful links, including costume links. One link (http://www.costumepage.org/) led me to a site that sells inexpensive novelty costumes: http://www.nightmarefactory.com/. Do a search for "straight jacket" and you should find one listed if you scroll down the page. At a cost of only $22.75, it might not be a very convincing version, but you could check some of the many other links provided on the Costume Page site. Brian Brian Reed Dept. of Theatre Whittier College Whittier, CA 90608=20 ------------------------------ From: Tom Grabowski Reply-To: tomgrab [at] utpa.edu Subject: Straight Jackets needed Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:17:29 -0600 Organization: UTPA Message-ID: <20050325101729921.00000003280 [at] TGRABOWSKI> The is being posted at the request of our costume designer at UTPA. We ha=3D ve a production of _One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest_ coming up and we are i=3D n need of 2 straight jackets for actors who are 6'4" and size 54. If you h=3D ave any leads or sources, please let me know. Also for the same production, I am looking for more ideas on how to handle=3D the explosion/SFX for the end of the show as the Indian rips out the elect=3D rical panel. It is in an upstage position but we are in a thrust theatre a=3D nd it is about 15' from the closest audience seating. Thanks. =3D *** Tom Grabowski University of Texas-Pan American Designer/Technical Director Communication Department Tomgrab [at] UTPA.edu Edinburg, Texas 78541 956/381-3588 FAX 956/318-2187 ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:22:26 EST Subject: Re: box office In a message dated 3/28/05 6:09:29 PM, slitterst [at] ithaca.edu writes: << I am gently scolded by our Arts Management students every time I use the term "Box Office." "We sell tickets, not boxes. It's a ticket office." Steve Litterst >> in the UK isn't it called a "Booking Office" ? very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050329032259.85892.qmail [at] web52010.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:22:59 -0800 (PST) From: Jacqueline Haney Kidwell Subject: Re: Straight Jacket In-Reply-To: 6667 You might have better luck under "strait jacket". > Do a search for "straight jacket" and you should > find one listed __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4248D343.9010608 [at] att.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:02:11 -0500 From: David Marks Subject: Re: Where can I access the archives and a Marley question References:

In-Reply-To: Mark O'Brien wrote: > > That would be _brake CLEAN_ > > Not brake fluid. Brake fluid is also as slippery as oil, not a good thing to spread around on a dance floor. dave marks ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050328220659.02cd2ae8 [at] mail.DesignRelief.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:20:49 -0600 From: Mitch Hefter Subject: Re: Stump the Electrician In-Reply-To: References: Frank Wood wrote: > > Engineering still has a slot or two available for USITT 2006 in > > Louisville. The questions become: > > 1) How many would attend ? > > 2) Can we get the panelists all there at the same time ? > > > > I would have to know in the next couple of weeks on item 1. I would then > > work on item 2. > >Question one, in what state is it, and can I smoke? Louisville, Kentucky. You can still smoke outdoors in most places in the U.S. Sometimes you must be a specified distance away from entries, particularly at hospitals and other health related facilities. Specifics for Louisville and smoking - I can't provide. >Question two, do you think that a right-ponder's opinions would be of value? Possibly. Note that the majority of attendees are from North America. >Question three, when is it? March 29 - April1, 2006. . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mitch Hefter stagecraft [at] DesignRelief.com Office: Entertainment Technology / a Division of the Genlyte Group mhefter [at] genlyte.com +1-214/ 647-7880 x 7967 :: +1-214/ 647-4738 Fax http://www.etdimming.com :: http://www.lolcontrols.com http://www.vari-lite.com :: http://www.genlyte.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:57:29 -0500 Subject: Re: Photos of Electrical Practice From: Heather Carter Message-Id: <0D6129C2-A00F-11D9-A232-003065535662 [at] marlboro.edu> Forget about giving credit-- what about anonymity and/or amnesty?? >I'll give full credit to whoever provides me the pics. Oh yeah, cartoons >are acceptable as well. > > >Richard A.Wolpert >President ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Cc: web [at] itisdesign.com ('Aaron Neff - What iT iS dESign studios') Subject: RE: Photos of Electrical Practice Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:48:43 -0800 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HELP. AARON. DOOM -- Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. - www.riskit.com Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Heather Carter Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:57 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Photos of Electrical Practice For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Forget about giving credit-- what about anonymity and/or amnesty?? >I'll give full credit to whoever provides me the pics. Oh yeah, cartoons >are acceptable as well. > > >Richard A.Wolpert >President ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #346 *****************************