Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 21540369; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 03:00:40 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #348 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 03:00:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #348 1. Re: Photos of electrical practice by "Jon Ares" 2. Re: Fake Razor Wire and Rough Hewn Poles by Scott Spidell 3. Re: Photos of electrical practice by "C. Dopher" 4. Re: Photos of electrical practice by Richard Wolpert 5. Re: Altman Micro-Ellipse Flickers? by Michael Powers 6. Re: Photos of electrical practice by Greg Bierly 7. Stage Blood Redux by "Rob Carovillano" 8. Re: Lighting research by "Shane McCook" 9. Re: Projector Issues by Michael Sorensen 10. Re: Photos of electrical practice by Delbert Hall 11. Re: Fake Razor Wire and Rough Hewn Poles by thetd222 12. Re: LED question by "Karl G. Ruling" 13. Re: Stage Blood Redux by "Phil Johnson" 14. Re: LED question by "Michael S. Eddy" 15. Re: stage illusion by "Storms, Randy" 16. Re: Stage Blood Redux by "Stephen E. Rees" 17. Video playback by Stephen Litterst 18. Re: batteries by "Karl G. Ruling" 19. Re: Video playback by b d 20. Re: Fake Razor Wire and Rough Hewn Poles by Peter Simmel 21. Re: Video playback by Stephen Litterst 22. Re: Reccomendations for NYC shows in may/june? by Brian Munroe 23. Re: Breakfast? VERY OT by CB 24. Air Brush System by Johan Godwaldt 25. Re: Breakfast? VERY OT by "Simon Shuker" 26. Re: Air Brush System by Dale Farmer 27. Re: Air Brush System by Mark O'Brien 28. Re: Video playback by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 29. Re: Reccomendations for NYC shows in may/june? by Judy Martel 30. Re: Breakfast? VERY OT by "Tony" 31. Gun Safety by "Randy Whitcomb" 32. Re: Air Brush System by "Occy" 33. Re: Recommendations for NYC shows in May/June? by Jeff Ward 34. Cendrillon Set Construction by "Stephen E. Rees" 35. Re: Video playback by Boyd Ostroff 36. Re: Video playback by "Jonathan S. Deull" 37. Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com 38. Re: Recommendations for NYC shows in May/June? by Dale Farmer 39. Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage by Dale Farmer 40. Re: Projector Issues by Villem Teder 41. Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage by Greg Bierly 42. Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage by Greg Bierly 43. Re: Video playback by "Jon Lagerquist" 44. Re: Photos of electrical practice by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <002f01c53533$2a246680$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:17:11 -0800 > into the truck, drop a few bags of popcorn into the backs. (the unpopped > kind..silly) with any luck no one will notice them until they start > popping > during focus call at the next venue. Hmm... I just tried this with an Express 48/96 - I can't get more than a few kernels in the floppy drive.... -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20050330091149.01ee6698 [at] watarts.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:18:19 -0500 From: Scott Spidell Subject: Re: Fake Razor Wire and Rough Hewn Poles Cc: mike [at] focusnote.com In-Reply-To: At 06:01 AM 3/30/2005, mike wrote: >1st the razor wire: I am looking for approximately 60' worth. I can >not use the real stuff for many reasons. I've used a roll of 4 gauge wire with bits of muffler tape every foot or so. >2nd the Poles: Our designer wants poles... Not Bamboo but something >else. We are looking into Eucalyptus or Cypress as the material but are >having a tough time finding a supplier who stocks this sort of thing. >The poles vary from 1/2" to 3" in diameter. No idea where you're at, but if you can find some Eastern White Cedar in a nearby moist/acidy area... HTH, Scott Scott Spidell Technical Director - Theatre of the Arts University of Waterloo ML 122 x4767 or 519-888-4767 (F) 519-725-0651 drama.uwaterloo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:46:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Delbert wrote: >> Ahhh! The thrill of running two 14 plate piano boards face to face in July, >> without AC, > > Been there, done that (mine was a one 24 plate unit, but it sure put > out the heat). Also, remember that if the load is not balanced, you > cannot achieve a blackout. In these cases you have to set up a > "ghostload" somewhere to balance the dimmer. > > I guess most of the young whipper-snapper technicians have never had > the pleasure of working with this kind of fine lighting equipment. No, thank God. All praise be to Tharon Musser. I did, however, build a saltwater dimmer once, just to see if the history books were true. They were. Cris Dopher, LD ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:49:07 -0500 From: Richard Wolpert Subject: RE: Photos of electrical practice In-reply-to: Message-id: A classic!!! Richard A.Wolpert President Union Connector Co., Inc. 40 Dale Street West Babylon, NY 11704 Ph: 631-753-9550 ext. 204 Fx: 631-753-9560 richw [at] unionconnector.com -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:33 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- And if you look real close you'll see the guy on the ladder is wet to his armpits - obviously been standing IN the pool at some point.....! 8-))) > > http://www.funnypictures.dk/funny-picture-364.htm > >> > > >Some months back someone posted the URL to a photo of a guy on an > >aluminum ladder, > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <424AC115.5040106 [at] theater.umass.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:09:09 -0500 From: Michael Powers Subject: Re: Altman Micro-Ellipse Flickers? Stephen Litterst writes: .........I've never tried putting a ghost load on the dimmers to solve this problem. It makes sense, in that you're increasing the load on the dimmer to a point where it will behave normally......... Steve, It's also because you're putting a resistive load on the dimmer instead of an inductive load, which some dimmers don't "see" properly. Michael Michael Powers, Technical Director UMass Amherst 112 FAC West Amherst, Ma. 01003 413-545-6821 Voice 413-577-0025 Fax mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu mptecdir [at] aol.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:14:02 -0500 > Hmm... I just tried this with an Express 48/96 - I can't get more than > a few kernels in the floppy drive.... My colortran encore drive holds at least a handful ;-) Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:37:53 -0500 From: "Rob Carovillano" Subject: Stage Blood Redux Message-id: <000801c5353e$70b87b30$a8a44481 [at] rcarovil> References: I know it has been talked about millions of times before, but since I can't seem to work with the archives I must ask it again. Recipes for washable blood? Rob Carovillano Technical Director Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University 610-660-1044 rcarovil [at] sju.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <017c01c5353f$34b5ab20$33dc2d89 [at] RADFORD.EDU> From: "Shane McCook" References: Subject: Re: Lighting research Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:43:10 -0500 Take a look at Neri Antique Lighting in Philly http://www.neriantiquelighting.com/ They have photos of all kinds of antique fixtures. Most have circa dates. Shane McCook Scene Shop Foreman Radford University Department of Theatre 540-831-5328 Office 540-831-6313 Fax smccook [at] radford.edu http://www.radford.edu/~smccook/ > Subject: Lighting research > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:50:51 -0600 > Message-ID: <5CF1C3D95785A143A3E33ACFD864609B03834574 [at] PEPSI.uwec.edu> > From: "Zirngibl, Ryan John" > > =20 > Howdy, > > I was wondering if I could get help from the list on finding a > site/book, whatever that may have historical lighting > fixtures/chandeliers. I am ALD for a production of Laughter on the 23rd > Floor and I've been asked to try to find some fixtures, but have had a > horrible time finding much of anything, so any help you could give would > be much appreciated. Thanks! > > Ryan J. Zirngibl > Student - Theatre Arts > Scenic Design > University of Wisconsin - Eau Claire ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050330154717.89827.qmail [at] web50709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 07:47:17 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Sorensen Subject: Re: Projector Issues In-Reply-To: Oh, I am so jealous!!! Michael From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Projector Issues When Monsters Inc. came out, we went over to Pixar and got to sit in their custom theater to watch it. They started with a split screen with DLP on one half and a 35mm answer print (Frank, American movie term, very good quality print) on the other. The DLP looked BETTER than the film. They said they were originally thinking DLP wouldn't be that good due to having fewer pixels than even a good consumer monitor. But, the pixels don't jitter and are very accurate as far as color and contrast. We watched the rest of the film in DLP mode. :) And, for the sound guys, the sound track was playing off the master hard disk at Skywalker Sound across the bay using a dedicated network link (just because they could). Michael Sorensen "It's all just a scam, isn't it? You get those actors to put on a show, just so you can have a good reason to play with your toys." --Christopher Stasheff, "A Slight Detour" Proton Lighting and Video "We positively charge up your show!" Phone: 520-232-3540 Email: chaoscon666 [at] yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:55:47 -0500 From: Delbert Hall Reply-To: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice In-Reply-To: References: > I did, however, build a saltwater dimmer once, just to see if the history > books were true. They were. > > Cris Dopher, LD > > Cool, I have always wanted to do that but have never found the time. I applaud you research. Maybe it could be an entry in the next Tech Expo? -Delbert -- Delbert Hall Phone: 423-772-4255 ------------------------------ From: thetd222 Subject: RE: Fake Razor Wire and Rough Hewn Poles Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:54:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050330105442938.00000004088 [at] cd22539817da> We did "Not About Heroes" & the designer wanted Razor Wire around poles. = We actually bought real razor wire (from Academy Fence Company, via the in= ternet, scary huh?). Once we got it, while it was still in the coil, we cut= off the points of the razors with a cutting wheel in an angle grinder. Thi= s made the razor wire (PG-13), you could handle it bare handed & not cut yo= urself. However, just to be safe in the few spots where actors had to touch= or stand near, we used sanding discs in our angle grinder to dull the edge= s. It worked quite well. = As for the poles, we used trees. We de-barked the trees & charred the outs= ide with an Oxygen/Acetylene Torch. Our poles were 12"-14" in diameter, but= maybe a trip to the local woods could result in free poles. = Hope it helps, - Will Leonard Assistant Technical Director PlayMakers Repertory Company Center for Dramatic Art UNC - Chapel Hill O: 919-843-9817 C: 919-423-9162 Sometimes you just have to ask yourself: WWJCD? (What would Johnny Cash do?) = My website: http://WillTheTD.tripod.com ------------------------------ From: "Karl G. Ruling" Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:02:33 -0500 Subject: Re: LED question Reply-to: kruling [at] esta.org Message-ID: <424A8749.28137.7AD484 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: > From: Jerry Durand > Subject: LED question > > I was just talking to a luminary manufacturer and was wondering if it > would be worth it to develop a DC dimmer for LEDs that did NOT pulse > them (constant current control). > > For those using PWM LED luminaries, how much problem is > strobing/flicker from movement (of actors, etc.)? To see the effect > I'm talking about, set you luminary to 50% and wave your hand in front > of it. Could make an interesting effect with actors running on the > stage if you planned on it. > Deutsche Welle is getting new TV studios in the Washington DC area that will use LED luminaires. The LED luminaires are being driven by constant current sources (DC dimmers) so there can be no problem with the LED pulse rate beating with the camera scan rate. Luminaires and dimmers are being provided by a German manufacturer. At least, this is what I was told by the manufacturer at PLASA last year. I haven't watched DW-TV in years, so I wouldn't know if the Washington DC studio is running yet. ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:07:29 -0600 From: "Phil Johnson" Subject: Re: Stage Blood Redux Here's a recipe I use a bit 1 16 oz bottle of Kyro Syrup (clear) 1 Teaspoon Red food coloring 1-2 Drops Blue food coloring (to darken the red) 1 Tablespoon of CLEAR liquid detergent (this cuts the food coloring so that it will come out in the wash more easily) Note: If you want to have the actors have blood from the mouth (in a capsule for example) omit the liquid detergent it leaves a real nasty soap taste. It is harder, however, to wash out of costumes. I have also used a recipe with corn starch and water as the base. You will need to cook it like a sauce before you add the color. It does tend to thicken like gravy as it gets older. You can thin with water as you use your reserve. The corn syrup one stays in liquid for a much greater time. Test either recipe on a sample before you use it on the actual garmet. HTH Philip Johnson Designer/Technical Director Texas A & M University - Corpus Christi ------------------------------ Message-ID: Reply-To: From: "Michael S. Eddy" Cc: kruling [at] esta.org Subject: RE: LED question Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:31:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Karl G. Ruling Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:03 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: LED question For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Deutsche Welle is getting new TV studios in the Washington DC area that will use LED luminaires. Luminaires and dimmers are being provided by a German manufacturer. At least, this is what I was told by the manufacturer at PLASA last year. Karl, Who is the manufacturer for this project? It sounds like an interesting application. It will be interesting to see how it works. Michael Eddy ------------------------------ Subject: RE: stage illusion Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:38:54 -0800 Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B7323A54 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu> From: "Storms, Randy" I think this is a variation of a fairly common "mirror box" illusion. = Let me see if I can describe it without resorting to bad ASCII = graphics... The box or "trolley" should have a top, bottom, and three sides (The = last, "open" side faces the audience). The sides can be rigid or done = with fabric. It is critical that the bottom be covered/painted to match = the sides. A mirror is placed vertically inside the box with the top = leaning downstage at approximately a 45 degree angle, with the bottom of = the mirror at the upstage edge of the trolley, and the top of the mirror = at the downstage edge of the trolley. When viewed from the front, the = audience sees the bottom of the trolley reflected in the mirror and = believes they are actually seeing the back, creating the illusion that = the trolley is open underneath. When done correctly this is a very = effective trick. For your application the actor playing Chip would need = to crouch or kneel on some kind of platform in back of the mirror, with = his head poking through the top of the trolley. I hope that helps, and maybe some others on the list with magic = experience will describe it better. Good Luck, Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of RODOK!!! Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:20 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: stage illusion For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- We've joined the 300 plus groups that are producing Beauty and the Beast = this spring. I'm looking for a way to create the illusion of "Chip" the teacup appearing as a=20 bodyless head on a tea trolley. I suspect that mirrors or a painting of the back legs of the trolly with the=20 talent hidden in a box is the trick...Anyone with some specifics? Rod Osiowy Wild Theatre ------------------------------ Message-ID: <424AD204.8090704 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:21:24 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Stage Blood Redux References: The Old Globe theatre in San Diego had an entry at this year's Tech Expo at the USITT conf. Their recipe is as follows (copied from the Tech Expo Catalog) Low Viscosity, Nonperishable Blood 1 Gallon Lakeshore Learning Materials brand red finger paint 1 pint green finger paint (same brand) 4 Gal. water 1.5 cups white vinegar Combine finger paint and vinegar and then stir while slowly adding water to proper viscosity. The full recipe is very liquid. Less water lets it be thicker. lakeshorelearning.com is the source for the finger paint. thanks to Ben Thoron, Liz Eisele and Wendy Stymerski for this recipe. The finished product worked very well in their blood fountain exhibit on the show floor. YMMV. HTH. Steve Rees, TD Rob Carovillano wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I know it has been talked about millions of times before, but since I > can't seem to work with the archives I must ask it again. > > Recipes for washable blood? > > Rob Carovillano > Technical Director > Bluett Theatre > Saint Joseph's University > 610-660-1044 > rcarovil [at] sju.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:00:17 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Video playback Message-id: <424ADB21.A4C10E9B [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts So, what are folks using for video and image playback for scenic projections? We've been fighting to make Powerpoint do what we want and I'm convinced there's something better out there. Thanks, Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ From: "Karl G. Ruling" Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:18:00 -0500 Subject: Re: batteries Reply-to: kruling [at] esta.org Message-ID: <424A98F8.7084.BFE974 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: > > You get lithium batteries manufactured in "Honest Jim's battery and > carpet manufacturing shop" some place in Asia. > Why beat up on Asia and suggest that it's the source of junk? Junk is made all over the world--and good stuff, too. My Dell laptop, including the original battery, was made in Asia. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050330174009.63480.qmail [at] web20425.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:40:09 -0800 (PST) From: b d Subject: Re: Video playback In-Reply-To: 6667 Stephen, Having absolutely no money to purchase any playback solutions, I've had excellent results using winamp. Our current production has 72 video cues, for which I edited the video, saved as DV AVI files, and imported into a playlist. Video op. double clicks on the Go and all is well. I used two video cards in my PC. One feeds the "control" monitor (playback interface), the other feeds the "live" monitor and projector. Winamp allows me to go to a full screen mode (on the "live" monitor), thus eliminating the boundry box and controls in the projection. Give it a shot. It works well for us. Hope this helps. Brian Dambacher Technical Director/Production Manager MeadowBrook Theatre Ensemble 120 Wilson Hall Rochester, Mi. 48309 bdambacher [at] mbtheatre.com --- Stephen Litterst wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > So, what are folks using for video and image > playback for scenic > projections? We've been fighting to make Powerpoint > do what we want > and I'm convinced there's something better out > there. > > Thanks, > > Steve L. > -- > Stephen C. Litterst > Technical Supervisor > Ithaca College > Dept. of Theatre Arts > 607/274-3947 > slitterst [at] ithaca.edu > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:54:27 -0500 From: Peter Simmel Subject: Re: Fake Razor Wire and Rough Hewn Poles I directed a show many years ago that was set in a Concentration Camp. The designer used regular wire with small pieces of black yarn cut in two inch pieces and tied onto the wire at specific intervals. He found a book called The Red Star that had actual photographs of Concentration Camp prisoners standing behind barbed wire, which provided a template for how far apart each bard was on the wire. The effect read extremely well and was also safe for the scene at the end where one of the characters has to throw herself onto the wire. Peter Simmel U of M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:12:59 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Video playback Message-id: <424AEC2B.AC90E04D [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: b d wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > Stephen, > Having absolutely no money to purchase any playback > solutions, I've had excellent results using winamp. > Our current production has 72 video cues, for which I > edited the video, saved as DV AVI files, and imported > into a playlist. Video op. double clicks on the Go and > all is well. How do you control transitions from one file to another? Does Winamp offer editing controls of any sort for the video? Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:31:09 -0500 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: Reccomendations for NYC shows in may/june? In-Reply-To: References: Since no one replied, I will throw in my two cents to come and see "Hairspray" The musicians scatter like rats on a ship after the show, but I might be able to arrange a meeting before the show. The cost might be an issue, hard to find cheap tixs for "Hairspray" in the summer. Check out www.broadwaybox.com for discount ticket codes to most broadway shows. Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:00:58 -0500, Dale Farmer wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > My mum came to me for assistance with the amtrak web site > yesterday. She and my dad are considering a day or three in > NYC in a month or so, and so I'm asking for recommendations > for shows they should see. Mom is a retired grade school > music teacher, and dad played the trombone before he got > asthma, so a musical would probably be good. One which > they could chat with some of the musicians and/or the > conductor afterwards would be a plus. Cost is an issue, > they are living on rather slim pensions, but schedule is > pretty flexible, as they are retired. > > Thanks. > > --Dale > > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050330193342.016fe838 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:33:42 From: CB Subject: Re: Breakfast? VERY OT >> >No. That's a slice of bread soaked in beaten egg and fried. Fried bread >is >> >exactly what is says. >Sorry, Chris, but I'll have to (agin my better judgment) go with FW on this >one. >Fried Bread (UK) is NOT fried dough, but a slice of regular baked bread >dropped into a frying pan of hot oil, then turned to fry the reverse side. I see, Frank left out a few important words and left me to understand that fried bread was "a slice of bread soaked in beaten egg and fried", or what we call french toast. Loking back, he did say that fried bread was exactly what it says. Ya gotta look close to see the distinction, but I think I have it now: French Toast = Bread soaked in beaten egg and fried Freedom Toast = RRR lemming's term for the above Fried Bread = Bread that has been fried after being baked Fried Bread dough = Bread that has been fried before being baked Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: From: Johan Godwaldt Subject: Air Brush System Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:36:41 -0500 Recently we purchased 10 air brushes. Our idea is to start doing workshops in use of airbrush. When we use all 10 air brushes the air pressure waivers up and down. Our designer recalls a baffle system to control the fluctuation between heads. Does anyone know of such a system, or ideas on air control? Johan Godwaldt Technical Director SUNY Oswego Theatre 47 Tyler Hall Ph# 315 312 2987 Fax 315 312 3394 ------------------------------ From: "Simon Shuker" Subject: RE: Breakfast? VERY OT Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:44:30 +0400 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050330184443.8EA8C5969 [at] mail05.powweb.com> Fried bread should be cooked in the pork fat from the bacon. Good healthy cooking that makes me wonder how our grandparents ever lived long enough to have a family!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:34 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Breakfast? VERY OT For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- >> >No. That's a slice of bread soaked in beaten egg and fried. Fried >> >bread >is >> >exactly what is says. >Sorry, Chris, but I'll have to (agin my better judgment) go with FW on >this one. >Fried Bread (UK) is NOT fried dough, but a slice of regular baked bread >dropped into a frying pan of hot oil, then turned to fry the reverse side. I see, Frank left out a few important words and left me to understand that fried bread was "a slice of bread soaked in beaten egg and fried", or what we call french toast. Loking back, he did say that fried bread was exactly what it says. Ya gotta look close to see the distinction, but I think I have it now: French Toast = Bread soaked in beaten egg and fried Freedom Toast = RRR lemming's term for the above Fried Bread = Bread that has been fried after being baked Fried Bread dough = Bread that has been fried before being baked Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <424AF552.4246E93A [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:52:05 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Air Brush System References: Johan Godwaldt wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Recently we purchased 10 air brushes. Our idea is to start doing > workshops in use of airbrush. When we use all 10 air brushes the air > pressure waivers up and down. Our designer recalls a baffle system to > control the fluctuation between heads. Does anyone know of such a > system, or ideas on air control? Pressure line drops from friction in the air pipes. ( assuming you are taking these all from a common shop air system. ) Cheap and dirty fix is to add an air reseviour(s) next to the manifold where the air brushes connect to the shop air system. They don't need to be that large, but you can buy those air tanks they sell in auto parts shops for carrying compressed air out on the road. Pipe one of these into the local manifold and it will smooth out the fluctuations in air pressure. Longer term solution is to increase the size of the air lines running around the shop. this reduces friction losses and adds a little reserve air capacity to smooth out fluctuations. If you are using a tankless compressor for these, you bought the wrong compressor, you need to add an air reseviour to smooth out the pressure spikes. If you describe your setup, we could do something better than speculate in a vacuum. --Dale ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Air Brush System Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:54:36 -0700 I once made a scento-rama system that used airbrushes to spray the stink. I had a compressor set up to kick out 125 PSI, and at each airbrush, I "stepped down" the airbrush pressure with a small regulator. No more "power" loss. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Mar 30, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Johan Godwaldt wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Recently we purchased 10 air brushes. Our idea is to start doing > workshops in use of airbrush. When we use all 10 air brushes the air > pressure waivers up and down. Our designer recalls a baffle system to > control the fluctuation between heads. Does anyone know of such a > system, or ideas on air control? > > Johan Godwaldt > Technical Director > SUNY Oswego Theatre > 47 Tyler Hall > Ph# 315 312 2987 > Fax 315 312 3394 > ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:07:10 GMT Subject: Re: Video playback Message-Id: <20050330.110730.4074.131080 [at] webmail21.lax.untd.com> I prefer to use a Final Cut Pro 4.5 HD as the playback device; Today's video editing machines will allow you to modify cues on the fly in case of an actor skipping/jumping a line/scene or grossly modifying the blocking, all while maintaining perfect sync with the background soundscape. It'll CYA no matter what the actors or other board ops do. /s/ Richard So, what are folks using for video and image playback for scenic projections? We've been fighting to make Powerpoint do what we want and I'm convinced there's something better out there. Thanks, Steve L. ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:22:25 -0600 From: Judy Martel Subject: Re: Reccomendations for NYC shows in may/june? > > My mum came to me for assistance with the amtrak web site >> yesterday. She and my dad are considering a day or three in >> NYC in a month or so, and so I'm asking for recommendations >> for shows they should see. Mom is a retired grade school >> music teacher, and dad played the trombone before he got > > asthma, so a musical would probably be good. It's not a big musical, but she might enjoy "The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <010001c5355d$ad6b53d0$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References: Subject: Re: Breakfast? VERY OT Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:21:27 +0100 From: "CB" > >> >No. That's a slice of bread soaked in beaten egg and fried. Fried bread > >is > >> >exactly what is says. > >Sorry, Chris, but I'll have to (agin my better judgment) go with FW on this > >one. > >Fried Bread (UK) is NOT fried dough, but a slice of regular baked bread > >dropped into a frying pan of hot oil, then turned to fry the reverse side. > > I see, Frank left out a few important words and left me to understand that > fried bread was "a slice of bread soaked in beaten egg and fried", or what > we call french toast. Loking back, he did say that fried bread was > exactly what it says. Ya gotta look close to see the distinction, but I > think I have it now: > French Toast = Bread soaked in beaten egg and fried > Freedom Toast = RRR lemming's term for the above > Fried Bread = Bread that has been fried after being baked > Fried Bread dough = Bread that has been fried before being baked > > Chris "Chris" Babbie You GOT it!! Ynot 8-)))))))))))) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000501c53562$21001d90$6501a8c0 [at] D4D3R151> From: "Randy Whitcomb" Subject: Gun Safety Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:53:21 -0700 We've discussed this many times. www.comcast.net has a video of a gun safety lecture that goes wrong. Click on the Fan Video section. When that opens do a search for DEA Agent. Randy Whitcomb,TD Price Civic Aud. Loveland, CO ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Air Brush System Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:21:57 -0800 Dale is right, your volume of air is not enough, Add a large surge tank close to your manifold where your pulling air brushes from use at least 1/2 inch plumbing from the from the surge tank to the manifold and keeping the surge tank at full line pressure, Then put a regulator and dryer for each air brush connect to the manifold. Don't forget to drain the water every so often from the surge tank, with 10 air brushes I'd probable use a 10 gallon surge tank. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Farmer" taking these all from a common shop air system. ) Cheap and dirty > fix is to add an air reseviour(s) next to the manifold where the air > brushes > > connect to the shop air system. They don't need to be that large, > but you can buy those air tanks they sell in auto parts shops for carrying > compressed air out on the road. Pipe one of these into the local > manifold and it will smooth out the fluctuations in air pressure. Longer > term solution is to increase the size of the air lines running around the > shop. > this reduces friction losses and adds a little reserve air capacity to > smooth > out fluctuations. > If you are using a tankless compressor for these, you bought the > wrong compressor, you need to add an air reseviour to smooth out the > pressure spikes. If you describe your setup, we could do something > better than speculate in a vacuum. > > --Dale > > > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <878782CA-A16D-11D9-A426-0011243269C4 [at] sbcglobal.net> From: Jeff Ward Subject: Re: Recommendations for NYC shows in May/June? Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:46:18 -0500 > She and my dad are considering a day or three in > NYC in a month or so, and so I'm asking for recommendations > for shows they should see. Mom is a retired grade school > music teacher, and dad played the trombone before he got > asthma, so a musical would probably be good. One which > they could chat with some of the musicians and/or the > conductor afterwards would be a plus. Dale, I'm running a front light on the new Broadway musical "The Light in the Piazza", at the Beaumont, Lincoln Center. We are in previews though April 17. It's a traditional musical based on the novella and movie of the same name from the 50's. It has hummable tunes and we all like the piece and the performances. Hope Mr. Brantley of the Times feels the same way. Don't really have much contact with the musicians, but I can guarantee a backstage tour after the show if your folks see it. The Beaumont is an 1100 seat house with a thrust stage. It also has the largest backstage area of any Broadway house. Please feel free to contact me off-list. Regards, Jeff Ward Local One, IATSE ------------------------------ Message-ID: <424B4BDA.8070805 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:01:14 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Cendrillon Set Construction The General Manager of the Summer Opera Theatre Co. in Washington, DC learned today that the shop she had contracted with to build the set for the Massenet opera, Cendrillon, will be unable to do so. She is rather desperate to find a shop within 75-100 mile radius around DC that could execute this show between now and about June 3 when load-in should occur. The show opens on June 12. If there might be an interest out there, please contact her directly. I am not privy to budget numbers or anything like that. I would take the gig but transportation costs preclude my doing so as we are 350 miles distant. I will also be prepping for Costa Rica and that is enough on my plate, thanks kindly. Deanne M. Giarraputo, General Manager The Summer Opera Theatre Company, Inc. 620 Michigan Avenue, N.E. Washington, DC 20064 PH : 202-526-1669 EMAIL: webmaster [at] summeropera.org Hope you can help. TIA Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:29:04 -0500 (EST) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Video playback In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, ladesigners [at] juno.com wrote: > I prefer to use a Final Cut Pro 4.5 HD as the playback device Well have edited extensively with FCP for the last several years, and I love it. I've used it to run some tests and so forth while connected to a projector, and you CAN use it for that. However, it really isn't designed for show use and I wouldn't be comfortable using it, unless possibly for something really short and simple. There can be some delay when starting/stopping, it can try to autosave files when you don't want it to, etc. Hey, if you works for you that's great though... Of course the standard for this is "watchout" from dataton, but that isn't cheap. I have also heard someone recommend the video presentation products from Edirol: http://www.edirol.com/products/vpresenting.html You could also use a DV tape deck. We used a Doremi hard drive based deck before, but these are $$$$ Then of course there are always the media servers like Catalyst, mBox, Hypnotizer and Maxedia... but again we're talking $$$$ This is a problem I'm grappling with myself, so I'm also interested in what others are doing for playback. ------------------------------ From: "Jonathan S. Deull" Subject: RE: Video playback Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:54:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We had extensive discussion of this issue in John Huntington's Show Control workshop in Toronto. There are more and more cue-based software solutions coming on line every day, since this is something everybody seems to want -- especially those who cannot find the $$ for Watchout/Edirol. Among the software solutions was Stumpfl's Wings Platinum program (http://www.stumpfl.com) which is pretty powerful. I have not used it, but some people swear by it. Another low-cost ($75) software package, originally designed for VJs, is called GRID2 (http://vidvox.net/grid2.html). I'd be interested to hear any feedback on these products. I am told that if you have a hardware MPEG card in your computer, you can use SFX to do the job directly. I would check with Stage Research about this. A number of people (including me) have used Powerpoint, with all its warts, as a very low-end solution. Some reported substantial success. In the workshop we set up a system using SFX software to trigger video playback using Powerpoint on a dedicated machine via RS-232 port. This actually worked amazingly well. I can dig up the how-to on this if anyone is interested. Hope this helps. Jonathan jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com ------------------------------ From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Message-ID: <147.42b87f0c.2f7cce26 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:53:10 EST Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage Greg writes: >...edison to speakon.........power/speaker cable. The audio team here has a set of "new" powered speakers that came with speakons to supply the mains power. Seems like a risky choice. Maybe it's a marketing strategy to sell lots of replacement drivers? SteveV Orl, FL ------------------------------ Message-ID: <424B752A.4433D82D [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:57:30 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Recommendations for NYC shows in May/June? References: Jeff Ward wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > She and my dad are considering a day or three in > > NYC in a month or so, and so I'm asking for recommendations > > for shows they should see. Mom is a retired grade school > > music teacher, and dad played the trombone before he got > > asthma, so a musical would probably be good. One which > > they could chat with some of the musicians and/or the > > conductor afterwards would be a plus. > > Dale, > > I'm running a front light on the new Broadway musical "The Light in the > Piazza", at the Beaumont, Lincoln Center. We are in previews though > April 17. It's a traditional musical based on the novella and movie of > the same name from the 50's. It has hummable tunes and we all like the > piece and the performances. Hope Mr. Brantley of the Times feels the > same way. > > Don't really have much contact with the musicians, but I can guarantee > a backstage tour after the show if your folks see it. The Beaumont is > an 1100 seat house with a thrust stage. It also has the largest > backstage area of any Broadway house. Please feel free to contact me > off-list. > > Regards, > Jeff Ward > Local One, IATSE Thanks. ONce they have settled things out with their schedule, I'll let you know. Good luck with Mr. Brantley. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <424B76F9.7CC49A37 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:05:13 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage References: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Greg writes: > >...edison to speakon.........power/speaker cable. > > The audio team here has a set of "new" powered speakers that came with > speakons to supply the mains power. Seems like a risky choice. Maybe it's a > marketing strategy to sell lots of replacement drivers? > > SteveV > Orl, FL They may be the powercon connector. Designed for AC power, and looks at a glance just like a speakon. They are not compatible. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050330183431.007edb90 [at] mail.interlog.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:34:31 -0500 From: Villem Teder Subject: Re: Projector Issues The issue of frames per second versus number times a frame is shown boils down to two different things in which the eye/brain responds to such stimulus. I used to know what psychologists "officially" called these things. One I think is called something like critical frequency for fusion of continuous motion, which is where a sequence of still images appear to be continuous motion. For most people, this is around 16 to 18 frames per second. This is the so-called "silent speed", both for 16mm and super8. The other phenomenon I think has a name of something like flicker threshold, where a blinking light appears to be on continuously. For most people, that rate is somewhere roughly around 50 to 60 times per second. Most movies are shown using two blade shutters, for a flicker frequency od 48 Hz. Under most conditions this appears continuous. However, with a large screen, if a full white field is shown at very bright levels, the flicker becomes very obvious, and can be a limit as to how bright a particular projection set up can be. Just about all super8 projectors I recall were 3 bladed, as more often they would be used at 18 fps. Shifting the topic to LEDs, I'm curious if LEDs are bright enough to be used as strobe lights, and if they respond fast enough. Anybody tried it yet? Regards, Villem Teder Toronto Local 58 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <317b742171356ba84764e0685def00cf [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:15:02 -0500 > They may be the powercon connector. Designed for AC power, > and looks at a glance just like a speakon. They are not compatible. They are keyed differently. I think they had a lot of people try to use them as a locking AC connector without the fragile exposed pins of a twistlock. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable / Name that Amperage Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:18:55 -0500 > I think they had a lot of people try to use them as a locking AC > connector I meant to say that people tried to use the original speaker speakons as 120v AC line current plugs. I am going home to bed before I waste any more of you time or bandwidth. ------------------------------ From: "Jon Lagerquist" Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:25:55 -0800 Subject: Re: Video playback Reply-to: jon [at] lagerquist.com Message-ID: <424B0B53.19772.F60C8C5 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: References: An option that sometimes works for us is Proshow from Photodex. Reasonable priced, while not really designed for what I am generally looking for it is pretty easy to work around most of it's shortcomings. And you can easily set times that are hundreds of seconds long rather than powerpoints "really fast" "fast" and "just about as fast". > A number of people (including me) have used Powerpoint, with all its > warts, as a very low-end solution The trick to make a "go" point is to double the slide you want to hold on. The first gets a really long time (1000 seconds) the second gets a very short time (0.1). By using the barely documented [page down] command to jump to the next slide you can control a show quite nicely at the low end. Jon Lagerquist Technical Director [at] South Coast Repertory Costa Mesa, CA ------------------------------ From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Message-ID: <11.424bbf0c.2f7cda85 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:45:57 EST Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice > I did, however, build a saltwater dimmer once, just to see if the history > books were true. They were. One of the scariest things I ever saw was someone in a church I visited using this idea for an object lesson. He had a mason jar full of water, some miscellaneous lengths of zip cord attached to a 60W light bulb and an edison plug. There were two ends of wire that had been striped of insulation for about 12" that were placed into the jar of water. All of this was hand held at the pulpit. He proceeded to plug in the cord to an extension cord. The light bulb did not light. Then, as he continued to juggle the jar and the wires, he added salt to the water. Having only two hands, it was a challenge to hold the jar and the light bulb, and pour in salt, and attempt to stir the solution. I was mentally running through the emergency procedures that would be needed if he did not succeed in keeping the wires separated and/or inside the jar and/or away from bodily contact. Fortunately, the light bulb gradually got bright and he made his point (salt of the earth, light of the world?) and unplugged the power without spilling too much water or prompting a 911 call. PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS. The life you save may be your own. SteveV Orl, FL ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #348 *****************************