Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 21739281; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 03:00:44 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #356 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 03:00:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #356 1. Re: Synchronisation by Dorian Kelly 2. Re: Cell phone amplifiers?... OT by "Paul Guncheon" 3. Re: OT-How to drain a sink without a drain? by "Shane McCook" 4. Re: A vague dissatisfaction with the status quo by Loren Schreiber 5. Re: Positioning your hazer by Nathan Kahn/Look Solutions 6. ETC Moving Light Copy/Paste Macros (long) by "Weston Wilkerson" 7. Re: Positioning your hazer by "Tony" 8. Re: Positioning your hazer by Nathan Kahn/Look Solutions 9. Re: A vague dissatisfaction with the status quo by "Paul Schreiner" 10. Re: A vague dissatisfaction with the status quo by Bill Sapsis 11. Re: Disclaimer language? by Jerry Durand 12. Re: Screw Strength by Mick Alderson 13. Another bit on Ebay by "Tony" 14. Painting a washing machine by anna labykina 15. Re: Cell phone amplifiers?... OT by "Alf Sauve" 16. Re: Painting a washing machine by "Charles J Korecki" 17. Re: Painting a washing machine by "Randy Whitcomb" 18. Re: Screws by RHolen [at] vinu.edu 19. Re: Screw Strength by "Paul Schreiner" 20. Synchronisation by CB 21. Re: Photos of electrical practice by CB 22. Re: Photos of electrical practice by "Paul Schreiner" 23. feedback graphic? by CB 24. Re: Synchronisation by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 25. Re: Painting a washing machine by anna labykina 26. Chicago sources by IAEG [at] aol.com 27. Re: Painting a washing machine by James Feinberg 28. Re: Painting a washing machine by "Merel Ray-Pfeifer" 29. monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige by kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu 30. Re: Painting a washing machine by Greg Bierly 31. Re: monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige by "Michael S. Eddy" 32. Re: monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige by "Chris Warner" 33. job posting - technical director position by "Cyr, Dale" 34. Visio by "Bob Elliott" 35. Re: monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige by Stephen Litterst 36. Re: Visio by "James, Brian" 37. Re: ETC Moving Light Copy/Paste Macros (long) by Mat Goebel 38. Re: Painting a washing machine by John McKernon 39. Re: monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige by SB 40. Re: Learning New stuff when you are stuck? by Wood Chip-P26398 41. FW: monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige by "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" 42. Looking for help with color on Morpheus faders and VL1000's by Edward Hunter 43. Auditoria Expo - Vienna by "Will Hill" 44. Re: Looking for help with color on Morpheus faders and VL1000's by Herrick Goldman 45. Re: Looking for help with color on Morpheus faders and VL1000's by David Wetmore 46. Re: Synchronisation by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 47. Re: Positioning your hazer by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 48. Re: Positioning your hazer by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 49. Re: Positioning your hazer by Dale Farmer 50. Re: Painting a washing machine by Dale Farmer 51. Re: Screws by Stuart Wheaton 52. Re: Painting a washing machine by Stuart Wheaton 53. Re: Auditoria Expo - Vienna by stage craft 54. Re: European Lighting Instruments by Jeff Forbes *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:59:42 +0100 From: Dorian Kelly Subject: Re: Synchronisation >In this digital era, video delay is a trivial problem, as is sound delay for >the rare cases when it's the other way round. Whatever happened to >profesional standards? > >Frank Wood I am afraid this has rattled my cage. I get absolutely furious when I see how technical standards in UK broadcast have slipped. I night argue that it was once the best in the world, now its far from being so. I cite: News items with the audio up to half a second out of lip sync, and pretaped items with stretched audio where the sync gets worse and worse the more time passes. The Geenwich time signal - supposed to be the gold standard - at three different times, up to a second out if I have FM on in the kitchen, Digital radio on in the front room and Freeview radio in the bedroom, ( and possibly streamed radio on the mac for all I know) all tuned to the same channel. Which one do I set my clocks to? I suppose its all uplink and processing delays, but there must be a way of compensating, by starting earlier and delaying everything empirically until its all the same and on time. Truly terrible lighting in studio setups. I am talking about bright blue backlighting on red afro hair with half a keylight and no fill at all. Intense purple backlighting on the presenter of BBC weather which has the peculiar effect everytime he raises his hand above waist height he looks as though he is wearing purple mittens. Ugly underlighting in the sports studio, headlight - only on a continuity presenter which gives her double chins. Flat wash lighting even, featureless and shadowless which does nothing for anyone. Complete lack of care in setting up lights in chat shows resulting in wild swings in colour temperature and automatic irising - This is stuff I would have been sacked for a few years ago and would still sack people for today if I was in that position. On the other hand have jsut watched a remake of The Quatermass Experiment which was completely live TV drama with locations across London, including the Tate Modern and the Millennium Bridge, as well as in the studio and was technically as far as I could tell perfect. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 01:41:01 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Cell phone amplifiers?... OT Message-id: <003001c53b66$ad4af180$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: <> Ya really think I didn't think of that? No cell phone service works at my house. <> ...erm, I'll take a 12v unit and run it from my car when needed, then take it inside my house and run it with a 12v power supply. If it's a 110v unit, I'll use an inverter in my auto. I know it's a couple of hundred bucks or so, but my pager is $75.00 per annum and my long distance service is $25.00 or so per month. Laters, Paul "Don't add too much water," said Tom with great concentration. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000e01c53b70$b66f4a90$33dc2d89 [at] RADFORD.EDU> From: "Shane McCook" References: Subject: Re: OT-How to drain a sink without a drain? Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:52:52 -0400 We had a similar problem in the Entertainment Dept scene shop at Universal Orlando. The company balked at the cost of cutting 100yds of concrete out to put a sainitary line to the front of the building. What they ended up doing was putting in a holding tank (imagine 30gal barrol set into the floor) that had a pump in it. They ran a PVC line up to the rafters and across the warehouse and down to a convient sanitary line. When the fluid level in the tank got high enough, the pump would kick in and pump the tank dry. In that situation they had to cut the tank into the floor because they wanted to put a mop wash out. Being that you are doing a slop sink, you could probably have the tank on the floor under the sink and let the sink drain right down into it. Shane McCook Scene Shop Foreman Radford University Department of Theatre 540-831-5328 Office 540-831-6313 Fax smccook [at] radford.edu http://www.radford.edu/~smccook/ Message-ID: <20050406150135.92031.qmail [at] web81702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:01:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: OT-How to drain a sink without a drain? In-Reply-To: 6667 When our building was designed, a slop sink was not included for use near the stage. The reason that I have been given for not installing one since that point is that there are no accessible sewer lines at a level below the sink. Has anyone been in a similar situation that has since been corrected? How? I would think that some type of system involving a pump would work to move waste water to a higher level, but I'm not sure. Has anyone seen or used a system like this? Thanks, Mike H ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050407062543.03350a58 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 06:33:12 -0700 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re: A vague dissatisfaction with the status quo In-Reply-To: References: Chris suggested impatience as a quality of a good theatre technician/technical director. I concur, but I think "impatience" is perhaps a bit too strong. I think a vague dissatisfaction with the status quo is a more accurate description of this quality that makes for a good problem solver. "There has got to be a better way to do this," rather than "This sucks, so I quit." Loren "Grits" Schreiber, Technical Director and Long Reach Long Rider School of Theatre, Television and Film San Diego State University http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20050407092139.01f9b9f0 [at] 212.86.129.164> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:37:57 -0400 From: Nathan Kahn/Look Solutions Subject: Re: Positioning your hazer In-Reply-To: References:

At 06:57 PM 4/6/2005 -0400, you wrote: >That's a really nice website. It appears all your units have glycol based >fluids. At the present time we've only been able to get approval of the >glycerol based fluid. We may be in the market for some new machines and if >we find one we like we'll submit to the AGMA union rep to see what they >think.... Glycerol makes a longer lasting haze, but glycol doesn't clog the heater - we went for the latter. By combining air pressure and heater technologies we are still able to get low fluid consumption. Do you know if glyercerin is less hygroscopic than glycol? If not, then I don't think singers would be any more irritated by one than the other. Provided the amount of chemical in the area to create a particular haze density is comparable. And the fact that a Neutron and Unique both have very low metering calibration factors does tend to imply that this is the case. ( http://www.fogspecs.com/ESTA_testing_report_final_11-11-02.pdf ) BTW I think I've mentioned to stagecrafters before that we'll be happy to send a demo Unique hazer to list members, upon request. We also have a money-back guarantee! :-) http://www.fogspecs.com/guarantee.html Nathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Look Solutions USA, Ltd. 114 W. Third St. Waynesboro, PA 17268 Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 Phone: 1-717-762-7490 Fax: 1-717-762-7366 Company Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com Personal Email: nk [at] looksolutions.com Web: www.looksolutions.com and www.fogspecs.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Weston Wilkerson" Subject: ETC Moving Light Copy/Paste Macros (long) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:40:57 -0400 I wanted to share an experience I had this past weekend switching to the Emphasis System at a new venue from the Expression line. I have been using these macros effectively for years. They even transfer link to focus points from que to que. The goal here is to create a series of Macros to copy moving light data from one que into another via an unused group. The theory is, begin in the desired look on stage (recorded or not),delete the target group, go to stage, update only the relevant moving light channels into the group, go to the target que, zero out the target channels, put the group at full. My old keystrokes, on any express/expression console, for a Mac 500 mode 4 with start DMX as 401 went as follows: [Blind] [Group] [102] [Enter] [DeleteGroup] [Enter] [Enter] [Stage] [Update] [Only] [Channel] [401] [Thru] [418] [Group] [102] [Enter] On the emphasis, when I got to the final group command, the console was not intiating an update command on the group. Instead it was trying to include the group in the only command. The console was saying only these channels and this group. So, after speaking with ETC a bit, here is what we cooked up: [Blind] [Group] [102] [Enter] [DeleteGroup] [Enter] [Enter] [Stage] [Update] [Only] [Group] [102] [Channel] [401] [Thru] [418] [Enter] It works just like the old one, and it works on the Expression/Express consoles too. ETC said they were suprised to find that type of difference between the two consoles. The actual que writing part was supposed to be the same. Once the target que is reached, the paste Macro still works just like it used to: [Channel] [401] [Thru] [418] [At] [00] [Group] [102] [At] [Full] Then record it or track it. Hope this helps some people and only slightly bores the non-programming nerds. It has saved me boat loads of time in programming moving lights on ETC consoles. It also teaches people how to use the Update command which I swear by, and I wish that it was an actual key and not a softkey. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Weston Wilkerson University of Tennessee Theater Lighting Design e: Weston_Wilkerson [at] hotmail.com <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Message-ID: <240901c53b78$86ceeef0$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References:

Subject: Re: Positioning your hazer Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:48:35 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Kahn/Look Solutions" > > BTW I think I've mentioned to stagecrafters before that we'll be happy to > send a demo Unique hazer to list members, upon request. We also have a > money-back guarantee! :-) > http://www.fogspecs.com/guarantee.html > > Nathan Don't suppose that extends across the pond to Blighty, does it ....? We're relatively happy with our existing hazer, but I'm always willing to look at new options.... Ynot ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20050407100829.02010b80 [at] 212.86.129.164> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:10:15 -0400 From: Nathan Kahn/Look Solutions Subject: Re: Positioning your hazer In-Reply-To: References:

> > BTW I think I've mentioned to stagecrafters before that we'll be happy to > > send a demo Unique hazer to list members, upon request. We also have a > > money-back guarantee! :-) > > http://www.fogspecs.com/guarantee.html > > > > Nathan > >Don't suppose that extends across the pond to Blighty, does it ....? >We're relatively happy with our existing hazer, but I'm always willing to >look at new options.... > >Ynot Not really. That would be a job for our UK distributor: http://www.whitelight.ltd.uk/ I don't know what their policy on demo units is. Nathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Look Solutions USA, Ltd. 114 W. Third St. Waynesboro, PA 17268 Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 Phone: 1-717-762-7490 Fax: 1-717-762-7366 Company Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com Personal Email: nk [at] looksolutions.com Web: www.looksolutions.com and www.fogspecs.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: A vague dissatisfaction with the status quo Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:24:37 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C7AE [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Chris suggested impatience as a quality of a good theatre=20 > technician/technical director. I concur, but I think "impatience" is=20 > perhaps a bit too strong. I think a vague dissatisfaction=20 > with the status=20 > quo is a more accurate description of this quality that makes=20 > for a good=20 > problem solver. "There has got to be a better way to do=20 > this," rather than=20 > "This sucks, so I quit." Agreed, and I'd also like to add that more often than not there's a certain amount of patience needed in taking the time to develop the "better way to do X". And a certain amount of patience (bordering on saintly) when you're TD'ing in an educational setting... And when dealing with clue-free directors. And when...ok, I'll stop now. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:11:36 -0400 Subject: Re: A vague dissatisfaction with the status quo From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Aggressive curiosity. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html on 4/7/05 10:24 AM, Paul Schreiner at pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> Chris suggested impatience as a quality of a good theatre >> technician/technical director. I concur, but I think "impatience" is >> perhaps a bit too strong. I think a vague dissatisfaction >> with the status >> quo is a more accurate description of this quality that makes >> for a good >> problem solver. "There has got to be a better way to do >> this," rather than >> "This sucks, so I quit." > > Agreed, and I'd also like to add that more often than not there's a > certain amount of patience needed in taking the time to develop the > "better way to do X". > > And a certain amount of patience (bordering on saintly) when you're > TD'ing in an educational setting... > > And when dealing with clue-free directors. > > And when...ok, I'll stop now. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050407082455.00a34748 [at] localhost> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 08:27:16 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Disclaimer language? In-Reply-To: References: At 01:04 AM 4/6/2005, you wrote: >Anyone know how to make hotmail behave? No idea how to make the web-based mail programs behave. I only use them as a last resort while on the road. Hot mail was the source of the first spam we started getting years ago. They wouldn't do anything about it, so I posted the direct phone number to the technical supervisor. That did help for a while. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:37:18 -0500 From: Mick Alderson Subject: Re: Screw Strength Message-id: <9a863f0d667134a2b2bb1d3fb5f3ca20 [at] uwosh.edu> > From: murr rhame wrote: > > Why not build your own rig and test the shear strength of > Sheetrock screws yourself? Make a sturdy frame out of > two-by-somethings. Build a stout box that can hold a few hundred > pounds of stage weights. Use one screw to attach scrap of > plywood or similar test material to the stand. Hang the weight > box from the sample. Carefully load the box until the screw > fails. > > How strong do screws need to be for you to consider them useful > for structural loads? Most people use more than one fastener for > a structural connection and shear loads in theatrical sets rarely > exceed a few hundred pounds. I'm not suggesting that Sheetrock > screws are the preferred fastener for every job. They do have > useful shear strength. > > > - murr - That will certainly give you useful information, and I've tested things this way myself. You need to factor in HOW loading occurs, though. Drywall screws are strong for their root diameter (which is pretty thin, really), but quite brittle (IIRC they are case hardened). Their failure mode is to snap rather than bend with little warning, and they don't take impact at all well. Impact loading can be difficult to measure in a makeshift field test. I found this out the hard way when I built an escape stairs whose treads were supported by wooden cleats screwed to closed carriages. The screws snapped off when an actor larger than I am ran down the steps. Fortunately it was the bottom step, and no one was hurt, but that was just luck. I immediately added carriage bolts to the cleats, of course. Drywall screws are still my fastener of choice, but never where they might take impact. For that, I stick to more malleable bolts or nails. Those are thicker and give some warning before failure. Mick Alderson TD, Fredric March Theatre University of Wisconsin Oshkosh alderson [at] uwosh.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <24e301c53b8d$487805a0$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References:

Subject: Another bit on Ebay Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:17:17 +0100 I've also stuck an iris up on Ebay - used to be in our Sil follow spot. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7313878592 Ynot ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050407163328.72831.qmail [at] web50106.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:33:27 -0700 (PDT) From: anna labykina Subject: Painting a washing machine In-Reply-To: 6667 Asking for the collective opinions of the list, I searched the archives but came up with nothing useful. I need to restore an old washing machine to its original enameled shiny goodness. Gloss spray paint enamel did not work so great, producing splotches and runny pools of paint (yeah, I know, it's all in the technique, but they are students painting the machine for a student show...) I would rather use something I can roll on with a small foam roller, giving the student more control. I am assuming I'd need a primer that will stick to the now conglomerate of original enamel, spray paint, and exposed metal. Then I will need a glossy white that will stick to the above primer. Are there specific brands people have used? Any suggestions? Thank you much, Anna Labykina TD, ENC __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message-ID: <061c01c53b91$82929b70$0400a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" References:

Subject: Re: Cell phone amplifiers?... OT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 12:47:33 -0400 Paul, Sorry, if I came across insulting. I project what happens to me and that is sometimes I don't see the forest for the trees until somebody points them out. In this case, that you might be so hung up on T-Mobile you hadn't given thought to other options. Kinda like when somebody has a problem with their PC the first question is: "Is it plugged in?" You might look at commercial providers like CelWave, rather than consumer equipment. I'd start with a commercial grade external antenna with low loss feed line (again commercial grade) specifically optimized for the 1900MHz band. For the house maybe even a directional unit, like a corner reflector aimed at the nearest T-Mobile tower. Alf This message is nmop apisdn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Guncheon" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:41 AM Subject: Re: Cell phone amplifiers?... OT > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > < different provider that does?>> > > Ya really think I didn't think of that? No cell phone service works at my > house. > > > < antenna and a hum free power supply, you've just given up portability. > Not to mention a couple of hundred dollars. Of course, you'll need a > setup > for the house, one for the car and possibly another at your work location > (s?).>> > > ...erm, I'll take a 12v unit and run it from my car when needed, then take > it inside my house and run it with a 12v power supply. If it's a 110v > unit, > I'll use an inverter in my auto. > > I know it's a couple of hundred bucks or so, but my pager is $75.00 per > annum and my long distance service is $25.00 or so per month. > > Laters, > > Paul > > "Don't add too much water," said Tom with great concentration. > ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Charles J Korecki" Subject: RE: Painting a washing machine Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:55:42 -0400 >I searched the archives but came up with nothing >useful. I need to restore an old washing machine to >its original enameled shiny goodness. I am assuming this project is for an upcoming show. How far away are your audience members? Instead of paint, could you use something like thin sheets of glossy white vinyl or contact paper? --charles korecki ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000601c53b93$6765e710$6501a8c0 [at] D4D3R151> From: "Randy Whitcomb" References: Subject: Re: Painting a washing machine Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:01:12 -0600 ----- Original Message ----- From: "anna labykina" I need to restore an old washing machine to > its original enameled shiny goodness. Years ago doing a house rehab we found a re-enameling product for our clawfoot tub, though I can't recall the name. Tub Restore??? I haven't needed such a product in a long time so I'm not sure if it still exists or not. We found it at our local home center. Try an online search for bathtub restoration. Randy Whitcomb,TD Price Civic Aud. Loveland, CO. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Screws Message-ID: From: RHolen [at] vinu.edu Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 12:04:09 -0500 I use low root, 8 gauge Robinson screws from Pan American Screw Company in Elkhart, IN. They are square drive screws and I buy them by the thousands. Very strong and they come in 3/4", 1 1/2", and 3". They are black. Much better than dry wall screws. The driver head don't wear out as fast. Richard D. Holen Professor Dept. of Theatre Vincennes University 1002 N. 1st Street Vincennes, IN 47591 Office: 812 888 5339 Home: 812 886 9135 Cell: 812 760 8000 rholen [at] indian.vinu.edu ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Screw Strength Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:05:27 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C7B1 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Drywall screws are still my fastener of choice, but never where they=20 > might take impact. For that, I stick to more malleable bolts=20 > or nails.=20 > Those are thicker and give some warning before failure. >=20 A few years ago I made the switch to the McFeely's square drive screws and away from standard drywall. Besides the advantages of less cam-out and stripping (both in the screw heads and bits), I've also noticed that they are nowhere near as brittle. Hardened, yes; but come strike time, when I've got a couple of screws that for one reason or another just won't come out of a stick (and the point is exposed), the same hammer blow that would normally break a drywall clean off merely bends the square drive. Food for thought... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050407100935.00ad7670 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:09:35 From: CB Subject: Synchronisation >In this digital era, video delay is a trivial problem, as is sound delay for >the rare cases when it's the other way round. Whatever happened to >profesional standards? Its just possible that its our DVD player. OTOH, it could have something to do with being shot in one standard, and transfered to another, If it were originally shot on film, transfered to video in Europe, translated to NTSC in the US, and then transfered to DVD format for distribution in France, anything could have happened onthe way. The trick to fixing it is delaying one signal or the other. Which is occurring first in you issue? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050407100948.00ad6d50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:09:48 From: CB Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice >Don't know, but isn't everything in and out of Havasupai >by helo, horse, or on foot? Yeah, nothing gets in that doesn't have feet or wings. Hmmm... Horseback the gear in. Better yet, how many IATSE hands does it take to get a 15KW sound system from the parking lot at the edge to the venue at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. Hiking and Horseback is for vacationers. I rarely get to excercise either option... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Photos of electrical practice Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:14:22 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C7B2 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Hiking and Horseback is for vacationers. I rarely get to=20 > excercise either option... What's a "vacationer"? ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050407184019.016f75d0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:40:19 From: CB Subject: feedback graphic? >anyone might happen to have a graphic handy that clearly illustrates how = >feedback occurs? I can always just scribble it on the whiteboard, but I = >thought a nice graphic might help the presentation. I find it more effective to build the graphic as I explain. Choose a representative scribble for acoustic energy. Describe the microphone as the transduction of acoustic to electrical energy. Describe the mixer/power amp chain as a series of amplifiers making the electrical signal larger and larger Describe the speaker as a bit of a 'reverse microphone' transducing the electrical energy to acoustic energy. Show that energy coming from the speaker as much larger and more powerful, of course, and then show the microphone in the field of the speaker. They will be able to see the reason that a feedback loop exists and how its created. If they don't, transfer them to 'English as a Second Language'. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1a3.31264b5e.2f86cc07 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:46:47 EDT Subject: Re: Synchronisation In a message dated 07/04/05 11:02:01 GMT Daylight Time, dorian [at] essex.ac.uk writes: > >In this digital era, video delay is a trivial problem, as is sound delay for > >the rare cases when it's the other way round. Whatever happened to > >profesional standards? > > > >Frank Wood > > I am afraid this has rattled my cage. I get absolutely furious when I see > how technical standards in UK broadcast have slipped. I night argue that it > was once the best in the world, now its far from being so. > > I cite: > > News items with the audio up to half a second out of lip sync, and pretaped > items with stretched audio where the sync gets worse and worse the more > time passes. > > The Geenwich time signal - supposed to be the gold standard - at three > different times, up to a second out if I have FM on in the kitchen, > Digital radio on in the front room and Freeview radio in the bedroom, ( > and possibly streamed radio on the mac for all I know) all tuned to the > same channel. Which one do I set my clocks to? I suppose its all uplink and > processing delays, but there must be a way of compensating, by starting > earlier and delaying everything empirically until its all the same and on > time. > > Truly terrible lighting in studio setups. I am talking about bright blue > backlighting on red afro hair with half a keylight and no fill at all. > Intense purple backlighting on the presenter of BBC weather which has the > peculiar effect everytime he raises his hand above waist height he looks as > though he is wearing purple mittens. Ugly underlighting in the sports > studio, headlight - only on a continuity presenter which gives her double > chins. Flat wash lighting even, featureless and shadowless which does > nothing for anyone. Complete lack of care in setting up lights in chat > shows resulting in wild swings in colour temperature and automatic irising > - This is stuff I would have been sacked for a few years ago and would > still sack people for today if I was in that position. You are playing my tune. Our biggest problem, at home, is that off-air signals, and cable signals are not synchronous. This makes for difficulties when my wife is listening off-air upstairs, and I am listening to cable downstairs. I watch little TV, for reasons of content rather than technical quality For time signals, I own a wrist-watch which listens to MSF. The Rugby time signals derived from the cesium atomic clock As far as I know, the sixth 'pip' is derived from the same source. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050407180736.8252.qmail [at] web50102.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:07:35 -0700 (PDT) From: anna labykina Subject: Re: Painting a washing machine In-Reply-To: 6667 To clarify on the washing machine, To quote Charles J Korecki : > How far away are your audience members? Instead of paint, could you use something like thin sheets of glossy white vinyl or contact paper? This would be a wonderful solution, if it wasn't an arena show with closest audience member 8 feet away... And the washer is an actual character in the show (David Ives, "Soap Opera") Anna __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:07:25 EDT Subject: Chicago sources Friends, would appreciate hearing reccomendations and or hearing from companies in the Chicago area that can bid on a moving light package for me there, ( 4 - 8 weeks ) Please don't take up list space for this, , do it "off list" very best, Keith Arsenault International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, FL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:22:55 -0700 Subject: Re: Painting a washing machine From: James Feinberg In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <0FFCC85A-A792-11D9-9338-00039367B7D4 [at] sandiego.edu> I think I've seen Krylon in jars and even quarts instead of spray cans. But what I'm really trying to remember is the brand of paint that I've used in the past to turn a sand colored file cabinet to black. No priming necessary, but I think it did take two coats. It had some catchy name like "Blackout!" and came in gallons. You might also try Rosco's Tough Prime. We use it in black on our stage floor, but it also comes in white. It also comes by the gallon. --James Feinberg University of San Diego On Thursday, April 7, 2005, at 09:33 AM, anna labykina wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Asking for the collective opinions of the list, > > I searched the archives but came up with nothing > useful. I need to restore an old washing machine to > its original enameled shiny goodness. Gloss spray > paint enamel did not work so great, producing > splotches and runny pools of paint (yeah, I know, it's > all in the technique, but they are students painting > the machine for a student show...) I would rather use > something I can roll on with a small foam roller, > giving the student more control. I am assuming I'd > need a primer that will stick to the now conglomerate > of original enamel, spray paint, and exposed metal. > Then I will need a glossy white that will stick to the > above primer. Are there specific brands people have > used? Any suggestions? Thank you much, > > Anna Labykina > TD, ENC ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:30:28 -0500 From: "Merel Ray-Pfeifer" Subject: Re: Painting a washing machine I have had very good experience with Rustolium's high heat appliance paint. I would suggest they try again. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "anna labykina" I need to restore an old washing machine to > its original enameled shiny goodness. Merel Ray-Pfeifer Production Manager Dept. of Theatre & Dance Millikin Univ. Decatur, IL 62522 217-424-3708 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1112898979.42557da3c846b [at] webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:36:19 -0400 From: kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu Subject: monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige References: In-Reply-To: Ok...no wise-aker comments about 'why don't you just' :-) It's not my board or my venue, but a place I happen to be working atm. They have a flakey monitor for their old Colortran board, circa 1988. It is a 13" color monitor with a DB9 molded in connector. The facilities manager has contacted what is left of Colortran Service dept. and has talked to her computer tech people on campus...and they tell her that her only hope is to find a circa 1988 monitor on ebay or somesuch. I imagine it is VGA graphics on a DB9 connector, the adapter that the computer support people made for her on campus does not work, but probably because the monitor laughs at the VGA (just guessing) and not the adapter itself. Has anyone out there replaced their old DB9 VGA monitor with something newer without also replacing the lightboard itself? How did you do it? My guess is that the current monitor only has about a dozen slaps on the side of the case left before all of the solder joints inside go from intermintent to just plain old mintent thanks Kim ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Painting a washing machine Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:03:48 -0400 I know you are watching costs and attempting to use student labor but I had great success with a local powder coat company. They charged me $100 US to sand blast and powder coat 4' sound equipment rack. I would have never guessed it was so cheap. We could have painted it ourselves for about $30 but it never would have looked as good or been as durable. This was about 7 years ago and the owner of the shop was a friend of a dept. chair. You could always attempt to trade an ad in the program for a discount. Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-ID: Reply-To: From: "Michael S. Eddy" Subject: RE: monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:11:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: It's not my board or my venue, but a place I happen to be working atm. They have a flakey monitor for their old Colortran board, circa 1988. It is a 13" color monitor with a DB9 molded in connector. The facilities manager has contacted what is left of Colortran Service dept. and has talked to her computer tech people on campus...and they tell her that her only hope is to find a circa 1988 monitor on ebay or somesuch. I imagine it is VGA graphics on a DB9 connector, the adapter that the computer support people made for her on campus does not work, but probably because the monitor laughs at the VGA (just guessing) and not the adapter itself. Kim, I am not sure, but a 1988 console is probably not a VGA monitor but an EGA or CGA monitor. A Multi-Sync monitor can usually fix the situation or look on E-Bay or at used computer shops for an old monitor. A Colortran dealer or service center may be able to A. ID the correct monitor type and B. May have one to part with. Good luck, Michael Eddy Eddy Marketing & Consulting ------------------------------ Message-ID: <03c701c53ba6$97bc7f10$6401a8c0 [at] chris> From: "Chris Warner" References:

Subject: Re: monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 12:18:34 -0700 Most likely EGA or CGA. Probably going to be VERY difficult to find these days. VGA/SVGA and DVI seem to have taken over. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:36 AM Subject: monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Ok...no wise-aker comments about 'why don't you just' > > :-) > > It's not my board or my venue, but a place I happen to be working atm. They > have a flakey monitor for their old Colortran board, circa 1988. It is a 13" > color monitor with a DB9 molded in connector. The facilities manager has > contacted what is left of Colortran Service dept. and has talked to her > computer tech people on campus...and they tell her that her only hope is to > find a circa 1988 monitor on ebay or somesuch. I imagine it is VGA graphics on > a DB9 connector, the adapter that the computer support people made for her on > campus does not work, but probably because the monitor laughs at the VGA (just > guessing) and not the adapter itself. > > Has anyone out there replaced their old DB9 VGA monitor with something newer > without also replacing the lightboard itself? How did you do it? > > My guess is that the current monitor only has about a dozen slaps on the side > of the case left before all of the solder joints inside go from intermintent to > just plain old mintent > > thanks > > Kim > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 4/7/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 4/7/2005 ------------------------------ Subject: job posting - technical director position Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 12:25:43 -0700 Message-ID: <407DF7D68DD30440B5CEB70ED234D1CF0316E39C [at] excuswa100.americas.unity> From: "Cyr, Dale" Cc: paulm [at] lifecenter.net this is for a friend. please contact him with any questions. ************************************** Position: Technical Director Life Center Church Spokane Washington Position is available: immediately. Duties to include: Train and supervise volunteers and staff on the proper operation of audio, lighting, video and computer graphics equipment. Make sure each of the positions are covered for Sunday and Mid-Week Services, including various other mid-week activities, such as Adult, College, High School, Women's and Children's Ministries. Must be able to step into any position to cover a temporary absence. Salary $30 - $35k depending on education and experience. contact: Paul Miller paulm [at] lifecenter.net the Life Center website is: http://www.lifecenter.net/index.html ************************************** dale cyr Training Supervisor IATSE Local 93 Spokane Wa ------------------------------ From: "Bob Elliott" Subject: Visio Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 12:33:35 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Greetings everyone, I was wondering if anybody knew if the program Visio had templates for lighting. I work for a small performing arts theater that is run by city government and I was inquiring if they had any programs that I could use for sending out drawings of our theater with the current lighting plot. I was informed they had Visio and I would be allowed to have information services install it on their computer as long as we had $295 to pay the license fee for the program. Thank you for your help. Bob Elliott Amador Theater Pleasanton, C. A. www.amadortheater.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 16:02:38 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige Message-id: <425591DE.21050122 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References:

kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > Has anyone out there replaced their old DB9 VGA monitor with something newer > without also replacing the lightboard itself? How did you do it? I made an ill-fated attempt to buy a used EGA monitor (see all other responses) for my Expression and ended up with a rolling screen of channels. Apparently the original Expression used a slightly modified EGA signal. (I can find the document that confirms this somewhere if anyone is really interested). In the end I was unsuccessful, but I have a new board now anyway. > > My guess is that the current monitor only has about a dozen slaps on the side > of the case left before all of the solder joints inside go from intermintent to > just plain old mintent That made my day. Thank you. Steve Litterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Visio Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:05:34 -0400 Message-ID: <89DE71075FCD6E44A4D117FBFBBD801C09F9B351 [at] fangorn.cc.vt.edu> From: "James, Brian" I use VISIO occasionally, and have not found a template. Frankly, I find = it to be another program that does not work as well as advertised. If you try importing other formats (DXF), good luck. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Bob Elliott Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:34 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Visio For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Greetings everyone, I was wondering if anybody knew if the program Visio had templates for lighting. I work for a small performing arts theater that is run by city = government and I was inquiring if they had any programs that I could use for = sending out drawings of our theater with the current lighting plot. I was informed they had Visio and I would be allowed to have information services install it on their computer as long as we had $295 to pay the license fee for the program. Thank you for your help. Bob Elliott Amador Theater Pleasanton, C. A. www.amadortheater.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:07:12 -0700 From: Mat Goebel Reply-To: Mat Goebel Subject: Re: ETC Moving Light Copy/Paste Macros (long) In-Reply-To: References: A warning to those programming on an emphasis system... When you record a cue, do not let a dynamic effect run in a submaster. Doing so will corrupt the cue stack when you try to save to disk. Submaster bump on/offs need to be recorded as macros that are linked to the cues in question. Hope this saves some hair pulling for anyone out there having to deal with one of these. On Apr 7, 2005 6:40 AM, Weston Wilkerson wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I wanted to share an experience I had this past weekend switching to the > Emphasis System at a new venue from the Expression line. I have been using > these macros effectively for years. They > even transfer link to focus points from que to que. > > The goal here is to create a series of Macros to copy moving light data from > one que into another > via an unused group. > The theory is, begin in the desired look on stage (recorded or not),delete > the target group, go to > stage, update only the relevant moving light channels into the group, go to > the target que, zero > out the target channels, put the group at full. > > My old keystrokes, on any express/expression console, for a Mac 500 mode 4 > with start DMX as 401 went as follows: > [Blind] [Group] [102] [Enter] [DeleteGroup] [Enter] [Enter] [Stage] [Update] > [Only] [Channel] > [401] [Thru] [418] [Group] [102] [Enter] > > On the emphasis, when I got to the final group command, the console was not > intiating an update > command on the group. Instead it was trying to include the group in the > only command. The > console was saying only these channels and this group. > > So, after speaking with ETC a bit, here is what we cooked up: > [Blind] [Group] [102] [Enter] [DeleteGroup] [Enter] [Enter] [Stage] [Update] > [Only] [Group] [102] > [Channel] [401] [Thru] [418] [Enter] > It works just like the old one, and it works on the Expression/Express > consoles too. ETC said they > were suprised to find that type of difference between the two consoles. The > actual que writing > part was supposed to be the same. > > Once the target que is reached, the paste Macro still works just like it > used to: > [Channel] [401] [Thru] [418] [At] [00] [Group] [102] [At] [Full] > Then record it or track it. > > Hope this helps some people and only slightly bores the non-programming > nerds. It has saved me > boat loads of time in programming moving lights on ETC consoles. It also > teaches people how to > use the Update command which I swear by, and I wish that it was an actual > key and not a softkey. > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Weston Wilkerson > University of Tennessee Theater Lighting Design > e: Weston_Wilkerson [at] hotmail.com > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > -- Mat Goebel Cell: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 16:12:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Painting a washing machine From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > I have had very good experience with Rustolium's high heat appliance > paint. > > I would suggest they try again. Sand off all of the drips and sags before starting again, using very fine sandpaper. It's very important to apply the spray paint in very thin coats. The reason for all of the sagging and drip marks is they sprayed too heavily. Many thin light coats will do the trick. Yes, it'll take time, but that's the only way to get a good finish. Try setting the machine on its side and spraying just one side at a time, too. Rollering or using a brush will very likely produce an uneven "brushed" surface, quite unlike the original finish. And yes, Greg is right, powder coating produces a really beautiful finish! If you can afford it, that's the best way to go. Just be sure to get a gloss or semi-gloss finish, so that it looks as much like the original as possible. - John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 16:56:35 -0400 From: SB Subject: Re: monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige Message-id: <003b01c53bb4$48f476e0$6601a8c0 [at] lighting> References:

----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" > It's not my board or my venue, but a place I happen to be working atm. > They > have a flakey monitor for their old Colortran board, circa 1988. It is a > 13" > color monitor with a DB9 molded in connector. The facilities manager has > contacted what is left of Colortran Service dept. and has talked to her > computer tech people on campus...and they tell her that her only hope is > to > find a circa 1988 monitor on ebay or somesuch. I imagine it is VGA > graphics on > a DB9 connector, the adapter that the computer support people made for her > on > campus does not work, but probably because the monitor laughs at the VGA > (just > guessing) and not the adapter itself. Contact Steve Short at Litetrol Service in Hicksville, NY. 1 800 LITE-TROL 516 681-5288 www.litetrol.com He has a building full of Colortran stuff and it would surprise me if he didn't have a monitor. Even then, maybe it's time to be thinking about a replacement console ?. Steve Bailey Brooklyn College ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014D202957F6D8118924000F20D7342B0502A851 [at] az33exm01.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: Learning New stuff when you are stuck? Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:57:02 -0700 Yep, that method of being pinned by a student's "Why" question is fantastic, but humbling. I find that I never truly know something until I can explain enough for a novice to "understand". The process of explaining itself often leads to new insights for the teacher. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Tony On the teaching/learning cycle, I have very often found that if I teach a newbie something that I previously believed I knew, I invariably find that during that process I in fact learn something myself! ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" Subject: FW: monitor fix for old Colortran Prestige Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:00:00 -0400 Organization: Home of the RC4 Wireless Dimmer System Message-Id: <20050407210004.QOKS27737.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> I have an old amber monochrome Amdek DataTrain monitor with a 9-pin connector. If it would do the job, you can have it for the cost of packing and shipping, probably pretty cheap by UPS 3-day. If it's a color monitor you need, you might be able to find a suitable old monitor here: http://choiceprinters.com/video/oldtech.html Jim ------------------------------------------ Visit www.theatrewireless.com for more information about the RC4 Wireless Dimming System. Soundsculpture Incorporated office toll free 1-866-258-4577 / local 416-259-8499 fax toll free 1-866-237-6641 emergency cellular 416-720-5802 jsmith [at] theatrewireless.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:35:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Edward Hunter Subject: Looking for help with color on Morpheus faders and VL1000's Reply-to: Edward Hunter Message-id: <0IEL00CX0IMTJ200 [at] ha14sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> I'm trying to track down a color mixing chart for the Morpheus faders that has some of the more recent colors on it. In particular I'm looking for the Rosco 300 series colors. Does anyone have a pointer to such a chart? From talking to the folks at Morpheus it appears that the way their original chart was created was by having someone sit in a room with a fader, two PARs and a gel book and match the colors. It also doesn't appear that they'll be adding to the current list any time soon. Does anyone know of some more formula based way to do this given the spectrum of the color as shown in the gel books? With that I could at least come close to the colors I wanted if a conversion chart did not exist. As a side note if someone has a chart for the VL1000's (assuming it might be different from the faders) that would be good too. Thanks. -edh ------------------------------ From: "Will Hill" Subject: Auditoria Expo - Vienna Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:43 +0100 Message-ID: Anyone on the list attending the Auditoria Expo in Vienna next week? If so happy to meet up and discover Austrian equivalent of 'Peeps' or alternative pastimes. Will Hill, Technical Manager, Theatre Royal Norwich, w.hill [at] theatreroyalnorwich.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:04:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Looking for help with color on Morpheus faders and VL1000's From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Ed, May I call you Ed? I have a chart but it doesn't have the newer colors and in fact the mixes they have are a little dubious. R-09 doesn't look like that! Anyway if you contact me off list I can probably fax itto you tomorrow evening. As far as the VL1000 goes..good luck. The VL1000's rarely match to each other exactly. And frequently get a little off during use. I would suggest spending a few hours in your venue with a white cyc a par can and the VL1000's and the faders. Good luck, -Herrick On 4/7/05 5:35 PM, "Edward Hunter" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I'm trying to track down a color mixing chart for the Morpheus faders that has > some of the more recent colors on it. In particular I'm looking for the Rosco > 300 series colors. -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: David Wetmore Subject: Re: Looking for help with color on Morpheus faders and VL1000's Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:07:52 -0700 In my experience with the vl 1000's Arc's the color will change as the lamp ages. also I have had almost no luck making any good amber, nor ever finding a chart for them. I have talked with VL a little less then a year ago and they said they had not intention of making any charts, but they might consider it if they had enough intrust. Charts although they can be wrong, they at least get you close and save hours of starting from scratch. David Wetmore davidfitwe [at] wetmoreproductions.com Hog and ETC programming VL Tech On Apr 7, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Herrick Goldman wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Ed, > > May I call you Ed? > > I have a chart but it doesn't have the newer colors and in fact the > mixes > they have are a little dubious. R-09 doesn't look like that! > > Anyway if you contact me off list I can probably fax itto you tomorrow > evening. As far as the VL1000 goes..good luck. > > The VL1000's rarely match to each other exactly. And frequently get a > little > off during use. I would suggest spending a few hours in your venue > with a > white cyc a par can and the VL1000's and the faders. > > Good luck, > > -Herrick > > > > On 4/7/05 5:35 PM, "Edward Hunter" wrote: > >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> I'm trying to track down a color mixing chart for the Morpheus faders >> that has >> some of the more recent colors on it. In particular I'm looking for >> the Rosco >> 300 series colors. > -- > Herrick Goldman > Lighting Designer, NYC > www.HGLightingDesign.com > 917-797-3624 > "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness > and in > light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS > > ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <62.526ae400.2f870ad1 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:14:41 EDT Subject: Re: Synchronisation In a message dated 07/04/05 18:10:35 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > Its just possible that its our DVD player. OTOH, it could have something > to do with being shot in one standard, and transfered to another, If it > were originally shot on film, transfered to video in Europe, translated to > NTSC in the US, and then transfered to DVD format for distribution in > France, anything could have happened onthe way. The trick to fixing it is > delaying one signal or the other. Which is occurring first in you issue? Well, film shot in Europe will have been shot at 25fps, rather than your 24fps. It's a small difference, and fits very much better with European TV systems. Translating it to NTSC is tricky, but in these days of digital frame stores, a lot less so than it was. Personally, I think that it's due to a path length problem. My cable company probably gets its video feeds from satellite, but may get its audio feeds terrestrially. That gives you about a 56,000 mile path difference. My beef is that they do not employ a trained engineer to check their output. OK, it's a very boring job. I've done it, checking film recordngs for technical quality. You wind up watching a lot of crap, in terms of programme content. But the programme content is not my problem, technical deficiencies are. It isn't a hard problem. What worries me is that nobody seems to be concerned about it. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Positioning your hazer Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:01:09 -0400 The number of replies to this is interesting. I've been involved with building half a dozen or so theaters and have yet to successfully make the Mechanical Engineers understand what the HVAC will do, or needs to do or needs too not do the stage house. You know that look construction guys give you when 'Theatre people' start going on about artsy stuff and it ain't a life/safety issue? Hell, I'd settle for a consistent result: sometimes the fog gets sucked into the house and other times goes right to the grid depending on air currents and temperature conditions. Anyway, I'm curious to know if anyone on the list who does consulting has been able to get construction guys and engineers to pay attention to this and what's your secret? Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ********** E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act. ********** ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Positioning your hazer Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:09:07 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01c53bd7$93c6bd90$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > other times goes right to the grid depending on air currents > and temperature conditions. Anyway, I'm curious to know if > anyone on the list who does consulting has been able to get > construction guys and engineers to pay attention to this and > what's your secret? Marty, I'm always happy if I can manage to keep HVAC ducts from in front of the FOH lighting positions. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4255F89B.EBF33C5C [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:20:59 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Positioning your hazer References: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > The number of replies to this is interesting. I've been involved with > building half a dozen or so theaters and have yet to successfully make the > Mechanical Engineers understand what the HVAC will do, or needs to do or > needs too not do the stage house. You know that look construction guys give > you when 'Theatre people' start going on about artsy stuff and it ain't a > life/safety issue? Hell, I'd settle for a consistent result: sometimes the > fog gets sucked into the house and other times goes right to the grid > depending on air currents and temperature conditions. Anyway, I'm curious > to know if anyone on the list who does consulting has been able to get > construction guys and engineers to pay attention to this and what's your > secret? No secret. Just patience and repetition of the requirements over and over again. Keeping an eagle eye on the drawings *every* time a change comes out. Just because a change you wanted got added to revision 9 of the drawing, doesn't mean that the draftsperson won't get lazy doing rev 10, and rather than checking out rev 9 to do the change, grabbed rev 6 that he still had on his hard drive, and created rev 10, losing all the changes from rev 7, 8, and 9. Being on the job site every couple of days and checking the actual construction against the current drawings. Being a pain in the patoot when you find someone doing something wrong. That's why good consultants charge so much, they have to put in all that time to keep features from leaking out of the building. Tell them what you are about to tell them you need. Then tell them what you need. Then tell them what you just told them you need. I didn't do this for theater construction, but for computer room construction and data cable plant installations. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4255FB29.49427C97 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:31:53 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Painting a washing machine References: anna labykina wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > To clarify on the washing machine, > > To quote Charles J Korecki : > > > How far away are your audience members? Instead of > paint, could you use something like thin sheets of > glossy white vinyl or contact paper? > > This would be a wonderful solution, if it wasn't an > arena show with closest audience member 8 feet away... > And the washer is an actual character in the show > (David Ives, "Soap Opera") Find a local auto body shop with a paint booth. They can do gloss painting about as cheaply as you can get away with it. Enamel coating like the factory finish requires it to be baked in a kiln to set the glaze. The auto body process is to sand everything as smooth as possible. Prime it with a couple of thin coats of primer, wet sand it to smooth it down again. Spray on your coats of color paint. Wet sand again to smooth it down. Then spray on a couple coats of clear and colorless gloss paint. Wet sand a final time and then buff with jewelers rouge. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <425603BA.9040702 [at] fuse.net> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 00:08:26 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: Screws References: In-Reply-To: RHolen [at] vinu.edu wrote: > I use low root, 8 gauge Robinson screws from Pan American Screw Company in > Elkhart, IN. They are square drive screws and I buy them by the thousands. > Very strong and they come in 3/4", 1 1/2", and 3". They are black. Much > better than dry wall screws. The driver head don't wear out as fast. > McFeely's has square drive screws in 1/4" increments. I wouldn't worry about heads wearing out too much, after all, you only use them once. Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42560760.6010004 [at] fuse.net> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 00:24:00 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: Painting a washing machine References: In-Reply-To: anna labykina wrote: > I searched the archives but came up with nothing > useful. I need to restore an old washing machine to > its original enameled shiny goodness. Gloss spray > paint enamel did not work so great, producing > splotches and runny pools of paint (yeah, I know, it's > all in the technique, but they are students painting > the machine for a student show...) I would rather use > something I can roll on with a small foam roller, > giving the student more control. I am assuming I'd > need a primer that will stick to the now conglomerate > of original enamel, spray paint, and exposed metal. > Then I will need a glossy white that will stick to the > above primer. Are there specific brands people have > used? Any suggestions? Thank you much, Power sand overall to remove lumps and add tooth to the existing finish. Aggressively remove any loose paint/scale. Fill big divots with bondo. Spray with auto body primer from can. Sand off runs. Fill any little imperfections with auto spot putty. Roll with hammerite white gloss enamel. Tip-off any runs and give 12 hours in hot sun to cure. Most of these products are best used with respirators or lots of moving air outside. Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050408063711.82892.qmail [at] web61302.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:37:11 -0700 (PDT) From: stage craft Subject: Re: Auditoria Expo - Vienna In-Reply-To: 6667 I'm not going to Vienna, but the local sugar-laden treats would have to be Marzipan (there are a few candy good shops downtown near Stephansdom). Plus you can get Marzipan in numerous shapes/figures - more so than peeps. Alas, Marzipan cannot be used for microwave jousting or enlargement... As an aside, if anyone going is a model railroader I can reccomend a few goods shops! -alex- --- Will Hill wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Anyone on the list attending the Auditoria Expo in > Vienna next week? If so > happy to meet up and discover Austrian equivalent of > 'Peeps' or alternative > pastimes. > > Will Hill, > Technical Manager, > Theatre Royal Norwich, > > w.hill [at] theatreroyalnorwich.co.uk > > > -alex- Alex M. Postpischil, Technical Director Department of Theatre Arts University of Mississippi University, MS 38677 662.915.6993 662.915.5968 - fax __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Jeff Forbes Subject: Re: European Lighting Instruments Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 00:04:37 -0700 > > A Plano-Convex is like a fresnel with a harder edge... rest of reply snipped > > > -David d'Anjou > > PS - where are you headed? > Thanks David, that's very helpful. Oh, and by the way, welcome to the list. I noticed you're name recently, and remember you from the Portland International Performance Festival when you were here with Le Deux Monde? I think that was the name. A heart-warming tale about a boy and his duck. Anyway, I'll be in Montpellier in June for the modern dance festival there, and in Paris at the Pompidou Centre in October. The company is the Deborah Hay Dance Co, and I'm adapting a lighting plot made by Jennifer Tipton for the original production at Danspace in NYC. The needs are simple, front light, backlight, high sides and booms.They have a ton of 1K PCs, but I don't see them working as side light on the booms. They're willing to rent as many Juliat 614s as we need, but I was wondering what the PCs would be best for.They may also work better as back light than the PARs J Jeff A Forbes PMB 124 6820 SE Foster Rd Portland OR 97206 (503)-888-5619 www.performanceworksnw.org ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #356 *****************************