Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 21945603; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 03:00:41 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #370 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 03:00:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #370 1. Noise in the theatre (was RE: info on Lycian 1271) by "Andy Leviss" 2. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by Andy Ciddor 3. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by "Paul Guncheon" 4. Re: Cannon Fodder by "Paul Guncheon" 5. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by Stephen Litterst 6. Re: Funny Combat Stage Experience by RHolen [at] vinu.edu 7. Re: Presidium Stage by zhamm [at] email.unc.edu 8. Re: Color blind operators by "Karl G. Ruling" 9. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 10. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" 11. fat suit story by "David R. Krajec" 12. Re: Presidium Stage (slightly long) by anna labykina 13. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by Noah Price 14. Stage Directions summer conference - anybody know anything about it? by "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" 15. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by Dale Farmer 16. DIY LCD by Dan Stearns 17. Job Posting AU, Washington, DC by Jeff Holt 18. Re: Panelists for USITT Louisville by Wood Chip-P26398 19. Re: DIY LCD by "Mike Rock" 20. Re: Panelists for USITT Louisville by "Fred Young" 21. Re: Color blind operators by Wood Chip-P26398 22. Re: Stage Directions summer conference - anybody know anything about it? by Barney Simon 23. Re: Panelists for USITT Louisville by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 24. Re: US vs. UK Fire Curtains (was RE: Sharing a fire clean-up story) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 25. Re: fat suit story by "Pamela Abra" 26. Re: Panelists for USITT Louisville by "C. Dopher" 27. Painting a washing machine - update by anna labykina 28. Re: Painting a washing machine - update by "Don Taco" 29. Re: Stage Directions summer conference - anybody know anything about it? by Bill Sapsis 30. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by Jerry Durand 31. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 32. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by Wood Chip-P26398 33. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by gregg hillmar 34. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by Stephen Litterst 35. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by Mark O'Brien 36. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by "richard j. archer" 37. OT: small engine repair/troubleshooting by Paul Schreiner 38. Theatres in Ireland by "Reed Brian" 39. Re: OT: small engine repair/troubleshooting by Dale Farmer 40. Re: Pope Smoke by CB 41. Re: OT: small engine repair/troubleshooting by Jerry Durand 42. Re: OT - Toll free numbers by CB 43. Re: OT: small engine repair/troubleshooting by Jared Fortney 44. House of Blue Leaves Pope's Speech...ANybody, anybody? by Martha Kight 45. Re: Theatres in Ireland by "Tony Deeming" 46. Re: House of Blue Leaves Pope's Speech...ANybody, anybody? by "Clifton Stanford" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Leviss" Subject: Noise in the theatre (was RE: info on Lycian 1271) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:43:43 -0400 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <002b01c54563$88240cf0$a19afea9 [at] AndyLeviss> In-Reply-To: Chris "Chris" Babbie wrote: > I can't believe that they actually make lights for theatrical > use that make enough noise that even the carps are asking me > to turn them down (Greensbor, N.C., 4/14, during our load- > in, amps weren't even plugged in...). At least you don't have to deal with positive pressure inflatable scenic pieces! It's only when we do theatres (my current tour normally plays arenas) and cut the two HUGE inflatables that I even hear the movers, etc. enough to complain about them. When I troubleshoot system hiss on my system these days, it's only out of a feeling of duty rather than of necessity--it'd take one hell of a loud hiss to hear it over the moving lights, snow machines, hazer (and its associated "Vornado" fan), whirring police beacon motors...shall I go on? ;o) --Andy http://OneFromTheRoad.com Currently in: Phoenix, AZ Next stop: Las Vegas, NV -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.17 - Release Date: 4/19/2005 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20050420173109.01914cd0 [at] pop3.kilowatt.com.au> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:58:13 +1000 From: Andy Ciddor Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers In-Reply-To: References:

At 15:16 20.04.2005, Noah Price wrote: >I've dialed 800 numbers from a variety of places in the Far East, and >probably Europe. First you hear a message that the call isn't free from >outside the USA, then you're connected. All my attempts to contact 800 numbers from here in Oz have been unsuccessful. I have then hung up and gone on to deal with companies that indicate their willingness to business outside the USA by listing a useable number. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:53:50 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers Message-id: <012a01c54597$3d416000$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: > Just a question. If it's 'off topic' why dfoes half my mail > consist of these messages? I can't believe that there is not > somewhere more suitable to post them. I don't know where, I > don't care where. But, get them off the stagecraft list! > > Frank Wood If I find a particularly annoying post or one I think innapprpriately off topic, I usually will ignore it not extend its life by commenting on it. Laters, Paul "They charged me a fortune to ship that donkey," Tom assented. "Finally a deodorant for where its really needed," Tom assented. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 01:41:25 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Cannon Fodder Message-id: <017401c5459d$e311e530$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: <> For the substrate, I would consider either copper plumbing pipe or aluminum (aluminium) tube... depending on the desired bore. For the final shape, I would suggest a method I watched a plasterer's assistant use to make large (18" dia.) finials for a movie. Essentially, he made a slow speed, hand turned "lathe" out of an armature nearly the finished shape. In your case, it would be just the tube. He cut a profile of slightly smaller version (about 1/8" smaller) of nearly finished finial shape out of 1/4" plywood and mounted it to a sliding mechanism (also simply built for this job). This 1/4" profile hinged out of the way to reveal another "finished" profile made out of thin steel... kind of like a knife blade. He mixed his plaster a little thicker than usual. he had his assistant turn the "lathe" with a handle while he applied the plaster and shaped it with the wood profile first to get the rough shape, and then with the steel one to get the final super smooth finish. He added shredded burlap fibers to a base coat of plaster to add strength and applied a finish coat of unfibered plaster. The process took some time and some patience... but again, he knew what he was doing, as in it was not his first time. As I remember, there is a coating the plasterers applied to wood and other materials that help the plaster "stick". They said it was a must"... can't remember what it was though, but it was made specifically for that purpose. Yeah, I know it'll have some weight to it. Pu it on some of those round things with holes in the middle. No... not donuts. Laters, Paul "Cobblers!" said Tom at last. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:53:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers In-reply-to: Message-id: <2089.172.128.172.114.1114001597.squirrel [at] 172.128.172.114> References:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > At 05:22 PM 4/19/2005, you wrote: > >>Are all 800 area codes toll free (for the caller)? I knew 800 and 888 >> but >>didn't know that 866 and 877 are toll free. I thought they might but >>never looked into it. > > > Yes, they're toll free (unless you're in a hotel or using a cell phone). No. Not all of the 800 area codes are toll free. Having lived in 804 for a few years, I know there are area codes in the 800 range that are not part of the toll free system. Looking this up, I also see that 880-882 are listed as "Paid 800 service" which certainly doesn't sound free.... Steve Litterst ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Funny Combat Stage Experience Message-ID: From: RHolen [at] vinu.edu Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:34:40 -0500 When I was in Vietnam 69-70 I toured the musical The Fantasticks. We were all GIs with one Red Cross Lady. We performed all over Vietnam for two months. One night we played at a base called Long Binh. The Army Special Services people had plastered the date, time and location of our performance all over the base, so the VC knew who, what , when, where and why. So half way through the first act I was standing on stage and I heard mortars starting to be walked into our position. I turned up stage and as I turned back around there were no actors on stage and no audience. They all had run to the bunker. I jumped off the stage ran to the bunker door and the door looked like a can of sardines. I yelled," room for one more" and in one voice all I heard was f*** NO! So I ran back to the stage and laid down and as close to the ground as a human body could get, until the last mortar went off. As soon as it was all over the troops wanted us to pickup where we had left off. So we did. The show must go on. Richard D. Holen Professor Dept. of Theatre Vincennes University 1002 N. 1st Street Vincennes, IN 47591 Office: 812 888 5339 Home: 812 886 9135 Cell: 812 760 8000 rholen [at] indian.vinu.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050420094244.qamhojo28884800s [at] webmail7.isis.unc.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:42:44 -0400 From: zhamm [at] email.unc.edu Subject: Re: Presidium Stage References: In-Reply-To: This may have already been posted, and if so I apologize for the redundancy. webster.com gives the definition of presidium as follows Etymology: Russian prezidium, from Latin praesidium garrison 1 : a permanent executive committee selected especially in Communist countries to act for a larger body 2 : a nongovernmental executive committee So possible a stage on which such a group meets? Zach Hamm PlayMakers Repertory Company ------------------------------ From: "Karl G. Ruling" Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:48:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Color blind operators Reply-to: kruling [at] esta.org Message-ID: <42662561.30903.356B6A [at] localhost> In-reply-to: Jerry Durand wrote: > After having worked with a color blind engineer (you could TELL when > he got resistors out of the stock room), I always try to make my > designs work in monochrome, even if I do have color on them. Things > like multiple LEDs instead of one multi-color one (or maybe blink it > for RED, steady for GREEN). Good design strategy! I had a lightboard operator who was colorblind working on a small board with three pages of submaster memory. Which page was active was indicated by a single LED that was red, green, or amber. It was extremely difficult for him to tell the difference by color, the differences between red, green, and amber being very slight to him. He had to rely on the position of the page selector switch, which was a small slide switch and difficult to see in the dark. He never made a mistake that I saw, and he was an extremely good board operator with a great sense of timing on the fades, but why did he have to worry so much about which page was active just because one LED is cheaper than two or three? I'm sure any operator with less skill and less commitment to doing the job right would have given the audience the wrong scene at least a few times during the run of the show. Red-green colorblindness in males is not rare; it affects more than one in 20. ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:01:14 GMT Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers Message-Id: <20050420.070206.29649.421210 [at] webmail05.lax.untd.com> I've used a '800' number for 20+ years for another, very practical reason. When my legal clients call me for advice, I am able to bill them monthly very precisely for the exact number of minutes of the calls. Nobody has ever argued with me as to the length of the call, or that they, in fact, made the call, as my '800' phone bill clearly shows that I was called from their phone number at a specific time and the call lasted for a specific duration. It costs me $5 a month, which is not much more than what 'Caller ID' service would have cost me, and Caller ID would not provide a printed record from an unassailable third party at no additional cost. (800)794-9800 is given to my paying legal customers who have agreed to accept the phone company billing as determinative of the case discussion time I will bill them for, not counting document preparation time and any filing fees, et cetera. /s/ Richard Ok, you convinced me. In 24 hours we'll have a toll-free number. Rates are sure better than I remember, $0.00 per month and 5.5 cents/minute. The number will be 866-356-3886 (just like our office number, but with the 866 area code). Jerry Durand ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" Subject: RE: OT - Toll free numbers Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:26:32 -0400 Organization: Home of the RC4 Wireless Dimmer System In-reply-to: Message-Id: <20050420142633.BDZD26128.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> The important thing is that 800, 888, 877, and 866 do not cost the caller anything. Billing structures at the receiving end vary but do not affect the caller. Other than 800, 80x area codes are generally NOT free. A number of outright scams over the years have used 809 numbers, counting on people thinking the numbers were toll-free. Those of us using toll-free numbers to be within easy reach are counting on people knowing and trusting which prefixes are toll-free. This is why phone companies do a bit of marketing when new variations are introduced. Since numerous people are not clear about it, it seems this effort has come up short. Jim www.theatrewireless.com > No. Not all of the 800 area codes are toll free. Having > lived in 804 for a few years, I know there are area codes in > the 800 range that are not part of the toll free system. > > Looking this up, I also see that 880-882 are listed as "Paid > 800 service" > which certainly doesn't sound free.... > > Steve Litterst ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "David R. Krajec" Subject: fat suit story Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:44:31 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Many moons ago, someone built a fat suit. The people who made the fat suit decided that bird seed would the best thing to use as it has some weight and would look/move better than foam. Unfortunately, the actor had a sweat problem. (I mean he had to wring out his costume at the end of a show!) Well, imagine how much sweat came out of him with a hot and heavy fat suit on. And imagine the suprised wardrobe crew when the bird seed in the fat suit started to SPROUT! There you have it. The first Chia-actor! DK ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050420150033.52029.qmail [at] web50109.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:00:33 -0700 (PDT) From: anna labykina Subject: Re: Presidium Stage (slightly long) In-Reply-To: 6667 Sorry for the long post, but I am on a roll: I know we sort of covered this topic already, but here's my speculation as to why some people refer to the proscenium as a "presidium" (and as we've discovered, every reference on the web that hits on "presidium" either has to do with an Eastern European governing body or a misspelling of "proscenium") Some years back, I received a bunch of undergrad pepers to grade that overwhelmingly described a "presidium" stage for a particular performance. Having been to the performance myself, and knowing that it was in a garden-variety proscenium, I was slightly confused. After correcting the spelling, I was confronted by a student who insisted that his spelling was correct because "the spell-checker said it's so" The multiple textbooks with the correct spelling did not seem to phase him (which brings us to that wonderful reality, the student who thinks that reading is not important...) Anyway, back then I plugged in a couple of misspellings of "proscenium" into Word, and the first hit upon spell-check was indeed "presidium." That does not seem to be the case now (after all, my Word finally learned that "colour" is just as valid as "color") but I can see why people would insist upon the term. What bothers me more is the proliferation of the use - I uncovered this on a website that posts theatrical education standarts for k-12 in a state that shall remain nameless: "M. Understand and apply knowledge of stage directions (e.g., presidium, stage right, stage left, upstage, downstage)." IN this case, "presidium" as a stage direction confounds me to no end. As to its reference to the actual stage on which a Presidium is gathered, it seems to me an unnecessarily narrow term - in Russia, presidia gather on normal proscenium stages, generally closer to the apron, aided by some platforms for height differentials, and hidden behind enormous laquered MDF constructions that are sort of a combo between a desk and a lectern (having had to move them many a time as a teenager on a stage that my dance group shared with the local pencil factory government...) Also, in Russia to this day the term "presidium" is applied to any body of note that gathers on a stage to preside over an awards ceremony, a meeting, a school graduation, what have you. On a related note, in Russian the term "proscenium" is taken directly from the Greeks and means what in English is called an "apron". The Western "proscenium arch" is referred to as a "portal," and the "proscenium stage type" is known officially as a "traditional depth stage with portals and fly-system", in everyday use called a "box stage". A 3/4 thrust and an arena remain as such... Anna __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: From: Noah Price Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:29:08 -0700 On Apr 20, 2005, at 5:53 AM, Stephen Litterst wrote: >> At 05:22 PM 4/19/2005, you wrote: >> >>> Are all 800 area codes toll free (for the caller)? I knew 800 and >>> 888 >>> but >>> didn't know that 866 and 877 are toll free. I thought they might but >>> never looked into it. >> >> >> Yes, they're toll free (unless you're in a hotel or using a cell >> phone). > > No. Not all of the 800 area codes are toll free. Having lived in 804 > for > a few years, I know there are area codes in the 800 range that are not > part of the toll free system. I should have been more specific. "They're" toll free referred to the ones he listed, not all 800. All the 8XX area codes are toll free. I found a listing, and many of 801-876 are standard area codes, except 811 is the business office and all the other 8XX are listed as toll free (822, 833, etc). > Looking this up, I also see that 880-882 are listed as "Paid 800 > service" > which certainly doesn't sound free.... Yah, I see it called "Paid (800/888/877) service from Caribbean to the US and Canada or from Canada to the US" in one list and just "Paid Toll-Free Service (800/888/877)" in another. Noah ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" Subject: Stage Directions summer conference - anybody know anything about it? Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:31:48 -0400 Organization: Home of the RC4 Wireless Dimmer System Message-Id: <20050420153150.WGBI27508.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> It looks like the tech topics at the Stage Directions summer conference Aug 7 - 8 may be interesting, but I have no experience with the organizers or the event. It looks kinda small (which might not be a bad thing if the presenters are great). Anyone have anything good or bad to say about it? Have you attended before? How was it? Propaganda at: http://www.stage-directions.com/articles/sdconference.shtml. Thanks, Jim www.theatrewireless.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42666FD2.E7B4C5F2 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:05:54 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers References:

Stephen Litterst wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > At 05:22 PM 4/19/2005, you wrote: > > > >>Are all 800 area codes toll free (for the caller)? I knew 800 and 888 > >> but > >>didn't know that 866 and 877 are toll free. I thought they might but > >>never looked into it. > > > > > > Yes, they're toll free (unless you're in a hotel or using a cell phone). > > No. Not all of the 800 area codes are toll free. Having lived in 804 for > a few years, I know there are area codes in the 800 range that are not > part of the toll free system. > > Looking this up, I also see that 880-882 are listed as "Paid 800 service" > which certainly doesn't sound free.... > under the north american numbering plan, 800, 888, 877, 866 are in use and are toll free incoming service. I don't know offhand if 855 has been put into service yet. 811, 822, 833, 844, 855, and 899 are reserved for future toll free service. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-Id: From: Dan Stearns Subject: DIY LCD Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:48:59 -0500 Does anyone have experience building a do-it-yourself LCD projector? We plan to build one, and there are a number of sites that pop up on Google, but I wanted to appeal to the collected wisdom of the list. Any pitfalls, suggestions, or advice? Cheers, Dan Stearns University of Chicago 5706 S. University Production Manager, University Theater Chicago, IL 60637 Lecturer, TAPS Phone: 773.612.2617 Fax: 773.702.4930 UT Shop: 5245 S. Cottage Grove Chicago, IL 60615 ------------------------------ Subject: Job Posting AU, Washington, DC Message-ID: From: Jeff Holt Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:52:28 -0400 Hi All, Job posting for Audio and Lighting Coordinator (I know... but the pay's not terrible, the bennies are actually good and the schedule's moderate, though you'd have to work for me). Go to the link for more info and how to apply. http://www.american.edu/hr/jobs/jobdetail.cfm?JOB=5466-0001&POS=5466&TITLE=Lighting%20and%20Audio%20Coordinator&DEPT=Greenberg%20Theater&OPEN=04/13/2005&CLOS=&BAND=Specialist&SALRY=$13.80%20-%20$24.80&LEVEL=Technical%20/%20Paraprofessional Best, Jeff PS: AU is also looking for an audio computer specialist to run a ProTools Lab and a Facilities Manager for their new Katzen Arts Center (big gallery, small performance spaces, lots of multiuse space). These jobs can be found by going here: http://www.american.edu/hr/ft_staff_main_frm.html Jeffrey D. Holt Facilities and Production Manager Harold and Sylvia Greenberg Theatre American University Washington, DC Desk: 202/885-3490 Fax: 202/885-1120 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014D202957F6D8118924000F20D7342B05772579 [at] az33exm01.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: Panelists for USITT Louisville Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:57:12 -0700 Being a color blind engineer, I appreciated that different values were in their own labeled bin in the stock room. I did always check with an ohm meter nonetheless. BTW, thank you for considering us, MANY designers do not. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Durand >Have some consideration for us color challenged types, please. After having worked with a color blind engineer (you could TELL when he got resistors out of the stock room), I always try to make my designs work in monochrome, even if I do have color on them. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003101c545c3$a5a88070$c86a1745 [at] Fred> From: "Mike Rock" References: Subject: Re: DIY LCD Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:11:38 -0500 Here is a site that has helped several people I have tlaked to build theirs. http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20041113/index.html I have not seen them but the link incluedes video and pictures so you can judge. ------------------------------ From: "Fred Young" Subject: RE: Panelists for USITT Louisville Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:11:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <42667f1d.2254374d.352f.ffff9220 [at] mx.gmail.com> Before this conversation got off on color blindness in the theatre I = think that some of the tip that Fred mentioned where very good and I would implement a lot of them if I were not drafting on a laptop. However I disagree about changing the background color in AutoCAD, the black background reduces eye strain over the long run plus my color choices = "pop". I also only have black and white printing available so my colors are = only on my screen; they are lineweight on the plate. Also for those of you who have not see the changes in AutoCAD 2006 I = think that it new BLOCKS system will greatly help any lighting designer still using AutoCAD. You should check it out if you haven't already. Fred Young -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Fred Schoening Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:50 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Panelists for USITT Louisville For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hiya, Dennis! Here are a couple of not-quite-CAD CAD tips that I thought might come in handy: - Trackballs ROCK! I especially love my Kensington 4-button programmable optical one. No slipping, you can program the buttons in chords, much less strain on the arm, takes up less space on the desk, all kinds of ergonomic goodness. - Raise your monitor! Art teachers will tell you that a painting or photograph should be hung with the top third above eye level. Why not your monitor? I was having all kinds of shoulder cramping and hunching over (and you know what a big guy I am!) until I built a plywood box to raise my monitor at least 8". Makes a WORLD of difference. And, as a bonus, you get a neat little cubbyhole to park your stapler in. - Speaking of monitors, turn your brightness way down and draw with a white background. I can't tell you how annoying it is to have to go through somebody else's CAD drawing and change all the colors so that you can see them when you plot it out. The pastels all look great on a black background, but they don't work so well on plotter paper. Draw it the way you want it to look in the end. - Arrange your furniture so that your monitor is between you and the door to your office. It's terribly distracting to have people come up and peer over your shoulder and ask "Whatchyer drawrin'?" (This is good for keeping prying eyes off your e-mail, too.) - Remember, there's a chance that someone in your shop is color blind. Line weights and types are important! Color is a wonderful thing, but don't rely on it exclusively to impart important information. - The carpenters WILL cut up your drawings, no matter how many times you tell them not to. Therefore, fear not the redundant note. - Sometimes the fastest program is NapkinCAD(tm). It's OK, really, it is. ; ) I'm sure I'll think of many exciting little AutoCAD oriented tidbits later, but this is what springs off the top of my head. Fred "Big Fred" Schoening Technical Director Dallas Theater Center Dallas, Texas, USA =20 "...a root word of technology, techne, originally meant 'art.' The ancient Greeks never separated art from manufacture in their minds, and so never developed separate words for them." - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance -----Original Message-----=A0 I'm looking for some thoughts from this list as to specific "CAD Tips" and practical problems/solutions to focus on, and also for interested panelists. =A0Please contact me off-list if you've got ideas or would = like to participate. =A0 How's that for opening a can o' worms? =A0 Thanks in advance, =A0 DGB ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014D202957F6D8118924000F20D7342B057725C1 [at] az33exm01.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: Color blind operators Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:11:42 -0700 It is more like 8-10% in males, about 1-2 % in females. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Karl G. Ruling Red-green colorblindness in males is not rare; it affects more than one in 20. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <426680AF.107 [at] JosephCHansen.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:17:51 -0400 From: Barney Simon Organization: Joseph C Hansen Co. Inc. Subject: Re: Stage Directions summer conference - anybody know anything about it? References: In-Reply-To: jsmith at theatrewireless.com wrote: >tech topics at the Stage Directions summer conference Aug >7 - 8 > > I have never attended, but I have selected to exhibit this year. They expect about 1,000 attendees. -- Barney Simon JC Hansen Co., Inc Drapes Drops and Dance Floors 423 West 43rd Street, NYC 212-246-8055 F:212-246-8189 JCHansen.com 866-988-8055 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <19c.31c48cc6.2f97eb2f [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:28:15 EDT Subject: Re: Panelists for USITT Louisville In a message dated 20/04/05 01:44:18 GMT Daylight Time, bpmunroe [at] gmail.com writes: > I recently did an automation install for the new Lincoln Center Jazz. > The install electricians ran all of the wiring from the motors in the > auditorium ceiling to the automation control panel on stage, and all > of the wires were the same color! I thought I was going a little > crazy until I realized that the cables were numbered on the jacket > (printed along the entire length, not just 'stickered' on the end). > Even so, some of the wires were miswired. Mostly "6" and "9" > reversed. I've met that sort of thing, but without the numbers. I came across a 2KW HMI once. These have a complicated start sequence, involving two contactors. The internal wiring was in light brown, and a palish red, which were difficult to tell apart, even with normal colour vision. It had been miswired, so that when the secong contactor came in, it applied a full live-to-neutral short. It was instructive. The short took out the fast-blow 15A fuse in the power supply, the 30A breaker which fed the workshop, and the 60A breaker behind that. Since we were in a temporary shop at the time, all the power was on strings of 4-way adaptors, sometimes daisy-chained. This meant that there were five 13A fuses to BS 1362 in the chain, all of which were unharmed! (UK currents and voltages) It reminded me just how important the time factor is in circuit protection. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <13d.11ad6649.2f97f008 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:48:56 EDT Subject: Re: US vs. UK Fire Curtains (was RE: Sharing a fire clean-up story) In a message dated 20/04/05 02:21:11 GMT Daylight Time, jonares [at] hevanet.com writes: > > I'm willing to bet > > that as the years go by, we'll see fewer, if any, fire curtains installed > > on > > stages that have less than 50 feet of height as AHJ's become better > > educated > > about what the model codes REALLY intend. I wish ours were. To be fair, some of the problems are down to the insurers. Working as a members' club, we were immune from some of the requirements with which a public theatre had to comply, although we always tried to keep within the rules, when we could find out what they were. Our insurers made up for it, though. They required an annual inspection and certification of the electricaal wiring. ALL of it. This is over three days work for a properly trained and qualified electrician and a gopher, even in a small theatre such as ours. Every light switch, socket outlet, and fitting is checked for correct wiring, right back to the incoming mains. Each and every neutral had to travel with its corresponding live back to the isolator switch. When I was made redundant, I quite often acted as the gopher, and learned a lot about proper installation. It saved us money, and I had nothing else to do, mostly. It also accounts for some of the views I hold about US electrical installations. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002c01c545d1$b5980f10$8f1dd8cf [at] pamscomputer> From: "Pamela Abra" References: Subject: Re: fat suit story Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:52:24 -0700 That is a good story....!! sprouts!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David R. Krajec" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 7:44 AM Subject: fat suit story > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Many moons ago, someone built a fat suit. The people who made the fat > suit > decided that bird seed would the best thing to use as it has some weight > and > would look/move better than foam. Unfortunately, the actor had a sweat > problem. (I mean he had to wring out his costume at the end of a show!) > Well, imagine how much sweat came out of him with a hot and heavy fat suit > on. And imagine the suprised wardrobe crew when the bird seed in the fat > suit started to SPROUT! > There you have it. The first Chia-actor! > > DK > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:04:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Panelists for USITT Louisville From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: On 4/20/05 6:00 AM, "Stagecraft" wrote: > In-Reply-To: > References: > Message-Id: <3D043F51-B132-11D9-B3E8-000393BB489C [at] ucla.edu> > Cc: boothd [at] ncarts.edu > From: Samuel Jones > Subject: Re: Panelists for USITT Louisville > Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:22:11 -0700 Sam Jones: > How does Stan Pressner use CAD to=20 > manage the Lincoln Center Festival as lighting director, That I can talk about from personal experience! Hm... This WOULD be an interesting portion of the session. Cris Dopher, LD ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050420182024.34979.qmail [at] web50109.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:20:24 -0700 (PDT) From: anna labykina Subject: Painting a washing machine - update In-Reply-To: 6667 Thank you all who offered suggestions on how to refinish a washing machine. Given infinite amounts of time, money, and transportation options, I would have opted for the auto-body-shop route. However, I only had a $500 budget for costumes, lighting, scenery, props etc. for 4 one-acts, no vehicle in which said machine could travel, and a week-end to make it pretty. In the end, a fairly stunning result was achieved by: Sanding the drips off; Priming with a Zinsser Cover Stain primer (spray, but a much less drippier behaviour than the gloss spray of earlier use); Two coats of Premium Decor Waterborne Acrylic Enamel in Gloss White (sponge roller, leaves no marks); Thin coat of Polyacrylic sealer in Gloss to make it REAL shiny. Not the exact washer enamel finish, but worked wonders for the show. The most important part of the process - the ability to hand it off to a student and receive a finished product in a minimal amount of time. Anna __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <026e01c545d8$4432f590$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: Painting a washing machine - update Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:37:46 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: "anna labykina" > > Thank you all who offered suggestions on how to > refinish a washing machine. Given infinite amounts of > time, money, and transportation options, I would have > opted for the auto-body-shop route. However, I only Given something closer to an infinite amount of time, an excellent approach is to make the person doing the spray-painting also be the person doing the onerous sanding of all drips, runs and smears in between multiple coats. They will teach themselves to closely watch the behavior of the paint, apply light even coats, and avoid creating the runs and drips, (skills that will probably be useful again in their life), because that is much easier than the sanding. It's a bit like first learning to juggle. You teach yourself to catch the balls, because you get bored with bending down to pick up the ones you drop. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:55:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Stage Directions summer conference - anybody know anything about it? From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 4/20/05 11:31 AM, jsmith at theatrewireless.com at stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com wrote: > > It looks like the tech topics at the Stage Directions summer conference Aug > 7 - 8 may be interesting, but I have no experience with the organizers or > the event. It looks kinda small (which might not be a bad thing if the > presenters are great). Anyone have anything good or bad to say about it? > Have you attended before? How was it? I have presented at the last 2 conferences. I'm not this year. I have a conflict with a project in Calgary. NYC in August or Calgary....hmmmmmm tough choice. My sessions were very well attended. I didn't get much time for the exhibits or the other sessions though. Too busy with stuff in New York. But I do know that the show has grown well over the last 2 years. Zat help? Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050420150018.03a84010 [at] localhost> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:02:19 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers In-Reply-To: References:

At 05:53 AM 4/20/2005, you wrote: >No. Not all of the 800 area codes are toll free. Having lived in 804 for >a few years, I know there are area codes in the 800 range that are not >part of the toll free system. Sorry, I meant 800, 866, and 877. I missed the "all" in the question. I doubt it's still the case, but there used to be a "secret" area code for government use. The assumption was nobody would call it since it would never be listed. Of course, anyone with a list of all area codes would notice one missing. Sort of like sun glasses and a trench coat to blend in. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:21:42 GMT Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers Message-Id: <20050420.152242.27628.430185 [at] webmail33.lax.untd.com> There are also 'phantom' area codes that cover large patches of ocean. Consult the North American Numbering Plan for the rules of assignment. /s/ Richard I doubt it's still the case, but there used to be a "secret" area code for government use. The assumption was nobody would call it since it would never be listed. Of course, anyone with a list of all area codes would notice one missing. Sort of like sun glasses and a trench coat to blend in. Jerry Durand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014D202957F6D8118924000F20D7342B0588924C [at] az33exm01.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: OT - Toll free numbers Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:38:39 -0700 When I was with N(o) S(uch) A(gency), we could not put that on our badges when at a conference, we had to put "Dept of Defense, Wash D.C.". Of course, no other agency used that designation. Now days they even use "NSA" on TV ads and swag. Chip Wood -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of ladesigners [at] juno.com there used to be a "secret" area code for government use. The assumption was nobody would call it since it would never be listed. Of course, anyone with a list of all area codes would notice one missing. Sort of like sun glasses and a trench coat to blend in. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <91acf45b9eddb9f410ae372edafc4bb6 [at] hillmardesign.com> From: gregg hillmar Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:58:05 -0400 On Apr 20, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Wood Chip-P26398 wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > When I was with N(o) S(uch) A(gency), we could not put that on our > badges when at a conference, we had to put "Dept of Defense, Wash > D.C.". Of course, no other agency used that designation. > > Now days they even use "NSA" on TV ads and swag. > > Chip Wood > Cool! so I should hit up my brother- who works for N(o) S(uch) A(gency) for some swag??? I've certainly provided him enough from my rock-n-roll days... Let's see- my birthday is next month, so maybe a logo-ed t-shirt should be on the list. Thanks for the idea! g. _____________________ gregg hillmar scenic & lighting design portfolio & life as we know it: http://www.hillmardesign.com "Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching." Satchel Paige ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:05:59 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers Message-id: <4266E057.ACD64991 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Wood Chip-P26398 wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > When I was with N(o) S(uch) A(gency), we could not put that on our badges when at a conference, we had to put "Dept of Defense, Wash D.C.". Of course, no other agency used that designation. I grew up in a church where a large percentage of the folks worked "for the government." Of course, everyone else in the DC area will tell you the agency but the NSA folks would only say they "work for the government." Steve Litterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050420161446.5cqt67w8v54ossgs [at] www.email.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:14:46 -0700 From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers References:

In-Reply-To: I used to set up staging at no such agency at Ft Meade, and one day, while in the cafeteria, I ran into my best friend's father. Man, he turned white as a ghost, and told me to NEVER tell anyone, I saw him there. Only in DC, where you need a clearance to be a stagehand... -- Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile Quoting Stephen Litterst : > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Wood Chip-P26398 wrote: >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> When I was with N(o) S(uch) A(gency), we could not put that on our >> badges when at a conference, we had to put "Dept of Defense, Wash >> D.C.". Of course, no other agency used that designation. > > I grew up in a church where a large percentage of the folks worked > "for the government." Of course, everyone else in the DC area will > tell you the agency but the NSA folks would only say they "work for > the government." > > Steve Litterst > -- > Stephen C. Litterst > Technical Supervisor > Ithaca College > Dept. of Theatre Arts > 607/274-3947 > slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:23:40 -0500 From: "richard j. archer" Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers Chip Wood said: >When I was with N(o) S(uch) A(gency), we could not put that on our >badges when at a conference, we had to put "Dept of Defense, Wash >D.C.". Of course, no other agency used that designation. Hey I interviewed with NSA back in the Viet Nam era (1970- I was a math major who liked puzzles) They did the same thing then. Big sign ups for NSA... little tiny Dept of Defense on the interview room....who were they kidding...of course, they have a bigger budget than the CIA...needless to say, I didn't work for them. Dick A TD, Cornell Univ (still likes puzzles) > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:15:39 -0400 From: Paul Schreiner Reply-To: Paul Schreiner Subject: OT: small engine repair/troubleshooting I'm sure there are plenty of people on this list more versed in small engine repair than I, so I look to your wisdom and beneficence (sp?). Apologies in advance for the bandwidth. My neighbor/landlord (who, btw, is a WWII vet who has been hospitalized with kidney problems a couple of hours away since October) has a riding lawn mower with a Briggs & Stratton dual-start (electric starter plus manual pull backup) motor. I can't get the thing to turn over at all. I've checked all the obvious things (or at least all the things obvious to someone who's sole experience with gasoline engines is poking about and doing minor maintenance to his own cars) I can think of with no dice. If anyone has not only the wisdom of what to check and look for as well as the ability to describe such tactics via email (and the willingness to let me pick your brain for naught more than the price of a few frosty adult beverages, as I'm on a strict budget these days), please email me off-list... ------------------------------ Subject: Theatres in Ireland Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:18:51 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Reed Brian" I'm planning a 10-day trip to Ireland in June. I'd like the chance to tour backstage at the Abbey Theatre and/or the Gates Theatre in Dublin, and perhaps other venues in Dublin, Galway, Wexford, and maybe elsewhere in the Irish Republic. Do any of you have an amenable contact (email or phone) at an Irish theatre that you'd be willing to share with me? If possible, please reply off-list instead of or in addition to an on-list reply. Other theatre/non-theatre recommendations and suggestions would be most welcome, too, especially a good hotel in Dublin. TIA, Brian Brian A. Reed Associate Professor, Designer/TD, and Chair Dept. of Theatre and Communication Arts Whittier College Whittier, CA 90608 breed [at] whittier.edu=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42671B17.9921F10E [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:16:39 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: OT: small engine repair/troubleshooting References: Paul Schreiner wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I'm sure there are plenty of people on this list more versed in small > engine repair than I, so I look to your wisdom and beneficence (sp?). > > Apologies in advance for the bandwidth. > > My neighbor/landlord (who, btw, is a WWII vet who has been > hospitalized with kidney problems a couple of hours away since > October) has a riding lawn mower with a Briggs & Stratton dual-start > (electric starter plus manual pull backup) motor. I can't get the > thing to turn over at all. I've checked all the obvious things (or at > least all the things obvious to someone who's sole experience with > gasoline engines is poking about and doing minor maintenance to his > own cars) I can think of with no dice. > > If anyone has not only the wisdom of what to check and look for as > well as the ability to describe such tactics via email (and the > willingness to let me pick your brain for naught more than the price > of a few frosty adult beverages, as I'm on a strict budget these > days), please email me off-list... If it won't turn over even a little bit, the engine is probably not worth repairing. Probably seized bearings or piston. For a lawnmower, it is going to cost about as much to repair as to replace, and you would get back a used engine. If it turns a little bit, but the resistance builds up and stops it from turning, yank the spark plugs and see if it turns now. That is vacuum lock, and indicates problems with valves not opening. Fairly major rebuild of the engine, but mostly burns your time ( which you have lots of to spare, right? ) not too expensive in parts. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050420192748.00b03178 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:27:48 From: CB Subject: Re: Pope Smoke ><< Will someone hi-tail it to Rome to get this Pope Smoke thing right. >FOX News seems to think that is the biggest crisis affecting the world >right now. >> > >that's what you get for watching FOX NEWS, , , > >I bet if they elect a third world pope FOX will claim it's a "left wing >conspiracy" > I just knew it was going to be another catholic, though. Vatican City is SUCH a 'good ole boy' network... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050420203829.03e77ca0 [at] localhost> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:44:25 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: OT: small engine repair/troubleshooting In-Reply-To: References: At 06:15 PM 4/20/2005, you wrote: >If anyone has not only the wisdom of what to check and look for as >well as the ability to describe such tactics via email (and the >willingness to let me pick your brain for naught more than the price >of a few frosty adult beverages, as I'm on a strict budget these >days), please email me off-list... Not sure if you mean it isn't turning at all (frozen, dead battery) or just not starting. If it's not starting, the carb is often a problem (assuming the spark is good). Briggs sells maintenance manuals for all these engines, I got mine here: http://www.jackssmallengines.com/serbs.cfm You could probably find a copy at a library or school shop. They also have maintenance kits of common parts. http://www.jackssmallengines.com/briggs_main_kits.cfm ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050420195025.00b03178 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:50:25 From: CB Subject: Re: OT - Toll free numbers >I can't believe that there is not somewhere more suitable to post >them. I don't know where, I don't care where. But, get them off the stagecraft >list! We've been saying that about some of your mouldy, contrary technical posts for years, Frank, but it hasn't seemed to slow you down one bit glass houses and a mote in ones eye, and all that... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45c56d3405042021523747b473 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 00:52:17 -0400 From: Jared Fortney Reply-To: Jared Fortney Subject: Re: OT: small engine repair/troubleshooting In-Reply-To: References:

Along with what was already mentioned, it may be something outside the engine, such as built up grass clippings or rope around the blade shaft. --- Jared Fortney, TD Circus Smirkus Big Top Tour 2005 ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:30:03 -0700 From: Martha Kight Subject: House of Blue Leaves Pope's Speech...ANybody, anybody? From a friend who's directing House of Blue Leaves: >Help! Will you consult your cyber friends on a theatre problem I'm having? In House of Blue Leaves, the speech that pope paul xi gave in yankee stadium in 1965 is played live on stage. I can't find this recorded speech anywhere. What have other people who've produced this show done? >Help! I open on Friday! Thanks to any and all... you can post off list or on - Martha Kight Synergy Stage Sacramento, CA *** Que serat, Seurat! ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: RE: Theatres in Ireland Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:08:10 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Subject: Theatres in Ireland I'm planning a 10-day trip to Ireland in June. I'd like the chance to tour backstage at the Abbey Theatre and/or the Gates Theatre in Dublin, and perhaps other venues in Dublin, Galway, Wexford, and maybe elsewhere in the Irish Republic. Do any of you have an amenable contact (email or phone) at an Irish theatre that you'd be willing to share with me? If possible, please reply off-list instead of or in addition to an on-list reply. Other theatre/non-theatre recommendations and suggestions would be most welcome, too, especially a good hotel in Dublin. TIA, Brian I get a few misdirected e-mails for the Dublin Abbey Theatre (We're the Abbey Theatre in Warwickshire - our hosts are similar)! I usually delete them (after giving the sender the heads-up) but there may be one or two lurking somewhere. The theatre's web site is at http://www.abbeytheatre.ie/ and their general contact e-mail is info [at] abbeytheatre.ie Hope this helps. Ynot ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000f01c54647$83abbda0$8806a8c0 [at] Klyphsmachine> Reply-To: "Clifton Stanford" From: "Clifton Stanford" References: Subject: Re: House of Blue Leaves Pope's Speech...ANybody, anybody? Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 03:55:40 -0400 There is a recording of that speech. We found it on vinyl when we did it about ten years ago. Can't remeber the title of the album. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Kight" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:30 AM Subject: House of Blue Leaves Pope's Speech...ANybody, anybody? > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > From a friend who's directing House of Blue Leaves: > >>Help! > Will you consult your cyber friends on a theatre problem I'm having? In > House of Blue Leaves, the speech that pope paul xi gave in yankee stadium > in 1965 is played live on stage. I can't find this recorded speech > anywhere. What have other people who've produced this show done? >>Help! I open on Friday! > > Thanks to any and all... you can post off list or on - > Martha Kight > Synergy Stage > Sacramento, CA > *** > Que serat, Seurat! > > > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #370 *****************************