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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 22129422; Sun, 01 May 2005 03:01:10 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #383 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 03:00:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #383 1. lighting in America by Judy 2. color relevance by Judy 3. Re: lighting in America by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 4. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by Steve Larson 5. OT: Radiant Floor Heating by Scott Parker 6. Re: Light lab activities? by JDruc3737 [at] aol.com 7. Re: Light lab activities? by Gregg Carville 8. Re: Open source software by b d 9. Re: Bubble Machine Lifts by "Storms, Randy" 10. Re: Copper Tubing by "Storms, Randy" 11. Re: Open source software ver. 2 by b d 12. Re: New Theater Space by Dale Farmer 13. Re: Light lab activities? by "Bill Conner" 14. Re: OT: Radiant Floor Heating by Steve Larson 15. Re: OT: Radiant Floor Heating by Dale Farmer 16. Re: OT Electrical Engineering Question by Daniel Kelly 17. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by CB 18. Re: A Suggestion for the List by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 19. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by Paul Puppo 20. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 21. Re: Light lab activities? by cdavis309 [at] optonline.net 22. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by Bill Sapsis 23. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 24. Re: Storage in a Tiny Theatre by Brian Munroe 25. Re: Copper Tubing by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 26. Re: Storage in a Tiny Theatre by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 27. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by Bill Sapsis 28. Re: Light lab activities? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 29. Re: OT Electrical Engineering Question by Jerry Durand 30. Re: commas by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 31. Re: Bubble Machine Lifts, The Reality by "Douglas McCracken" 32. Re: Light lab activities? by "Michael Denison" 33. Re: OT Electrical Engineering Question by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 34. Re: 3-Phase-Singel Phase (was CD-80 flickering problem) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 35. Re: CD-80 flickering problem, EDI Scrimmerette II, too by "Douglas McCracken" 36. Re: 3-Phase-Singel Phase (was CD-80 flickering problem) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 37. Re: Copper Tubing by Dale Farmer 38. Re: St. Petersburg eateries by kruling [at] esta.org 39. Re: Phasing for Frank was RE: CD-80 flickering problem by Dan Mills 40. More fun with guns by "Randy Whitcomb" 41. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by David d'Anjou 42. Suggestions for Rome? by Delbert Hall 43. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 44. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by Steve Larson 45. Re: Light lab activities? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 46. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 47. Re: Suggestions for Rome? by "Mr. Kevin Lee Allen" 48. Re: Suggestions for Rome? by Bill Sapsis 49. Re: Copper Tubing by Nancy Moeur 50. STRAND GSX Kaleidoscope by "Chris Warner" 51. Re: OT: Radiant Floor Heating by "Stephen E. Rees" 52. Re: Light lab activities? by Chris Davis 53. Re: Light lab activities? by "Bill Nelson" 54. Subject: Re: Sharing a fire clean-up story by CB 55. Re: CD-80 flickering problem - continuing saga by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <42736AA2.4050909 [at] post.tau.ac.il> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:23:14 +0200 From: Judy Subject: lighting in America Thanks to those who sent me notes about our problem with the university. I just want to say I've been getting some interesting impressions of the state of the profession in the US. Tell me if they're correct! First, I gather from your letters that Yale and SUNY are the best places to learn, and second, that designers make an awful lot of money, since so many people think their alumni contribution could seriously affect the case! Are those impressions correct? Seriously, thanks for your ideas. Nobody had any source where I could get figures, but there were some good comments. Judy ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42736B19.3040703 [at] post.tau.ac.il> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:25:13 +0200 From: Judy Subject: color relevance Bill Conner wrote: >Perhaps I'm a little prejudiced since I spent three years studying under Tom >Skelton who I believe, among the great lighting designers for the stage, was >a true master in the use of color. > Well, I agree the claim that color is irrelevant is pretty silly. But I'm remembering a time when I worked as assistant to somebody who did lighting design and was color blind. It was pretty interesting. He made really creative use of angle and intensity and cueing, and did things I wouldn't have thought of because color is often the easiest way to go. (And to anybody wondering how he got to be a designer - he owned a lighting company and just did a lot of the design himself.) It was pretty educational. Since then I've started giving students deliberately limited assignments, forcing them to make a point using only angle or timing, stuff like that. Sometimes use of color is so easy or attractive that we tend to underuse the other parameters of light. Judy ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: lighting in America Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:34:40 -0400 Message-ID: <001701c54d70$3aba4910$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Tell me if they're > correct! First, I > gather from your letters that Yale and SUNY are the best places to > learn, Well, Yale and SUNY think so. NYU and the North Carolina School of the Arts disagree, but they're just soreheads. > and second, that designers make an awful lot of money, > since so > many people think their alumni contribution could seriously > affect the > case! Are those impressions correct? Absolutely. Why, just yeasterday, I had one of my secretaries order me a couple of new Cadillacs, since the ones I bought last week have gotten dirty already. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:18:26 -0400 Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Don't forget the Fortress of St. Peter and Paul and the Romanov graves. I visited a country palace when I was there, stunning. Most museums allow pictures, but you have to purchase a sticker that goes on your shirt to indicate to the workers that you have paid to shoot. Hermitage does take lots of time. Steve > From: David d'Anjou > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:09:58 -0400 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Does anyone have any experience in St. Petersburg, Russia? I am there > next week lighting a dance show. Any suggestions or advice are > appreciated - - places to go, people to meet, things to watch out for > at the Mikahailovsky Theatre. > > -David d'Anjou > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980504300645101f28d5 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:45:05 -0400 From: Scott Parker Reply-To: Scott Parker Subject: OT: Radiant Floor Heating Greetings All, Has anyone dealt with installing a radiant floor heating system? I have one in my kitchen, but I'm planning on retrofitting the rest of my first floor with a staple up system between the joists. I am also planning on adding heat to the basement floor. I have two choices here: 1. Laying down sleepers with PEX tubing running in between, laying atop thin insulation. 2. Laying down snap together sectional floor units that have tracks for the tubing. Does anyone have any experience with either? Does anyone have any advice before I delve into this adventure? Thanks, Scott --=20 Take care, Scott Scott C. Parker ------------------------------ From: JDruc3737 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1f9.8d68324.2fa4f0e0 [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:32:00 EDT Subject: Re: Light lab activities? And that, Frank, is the difference. You light them up and good designers illuminate. In a message dated 4/29/2005 6:51:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com writes: I think that you and I follow different trades. I light stage plays. Heaven alone knows what you illuminate. Frank Wood Jeffrey Drucker Production Manager Bard College Theater & Dance Depts. 845-758-7956 drucker [at] bard.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2c0e1516050430074066538227 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:40:41 -0400 From: Gregg Carville Reply-To: Gregg Carville Subject: Re: Light lab activities? In-Reply-To: References:

FWIW - one uses color (or colour) every time you turn on a light. Even without a piece of gel in front of the light. The difference between the color temp of a light at 20% and one at 100% is significant. And then throw an HMI source into the mix, yeeha. I have seen some amazing examples of design that did not use gel. And then there are shows that are all L201 - literally all units (Yale anyone?) and they too can be great design. Design has many aspects, one of the reasons why I am in the business. You can do so much with the same tools and do it completely different from the next guy. -Gregg ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050430144502.5066.qmail [at] web20426.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:45:02 -0700 (PDT) From: b d Subject: Re: Open source software In-Reply-To: 6667 Mike, You could try the GIMP (gnu image manipulation program). www.gimp.org I've only used it on linux and love it, but they indicate that there are downloads for windows and osx as well. Brian Dambacher MeadowBrook Theatre Ensemble > A question for Charlie and the list: are there > open-source software > packages similar to PhotoShop, Illustrator, and > Pagemaker? And, of course, > the really big one: AutoCAD? Has anyone tried these > and what's the verdict? > > Thanks > Mike > > At 05:13 AM 4/27/2005, Charlie Richmond wrote: > >>So true... luckily, smart layout programs like > Quark, Pagemaker, Freehand > >>and the ilk recognize the 2-space rule, and if it > approaches a margin, it > >>adjust accordingly, and doesn't leave them in. > > > >Yes, and if you want to use a nice smart word > processor that is fully > >compatible with Word's doc files (and many others) > download OpenOffice > >from www.openoffice.org onto your Windows, Mac, > Linux, Unix or Sun > >computer and use all the other great apps that come > along with it, too! > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Bubble Machine Lifts Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:50:22 -0700 Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B7323A82 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu> From: "Storms, Randy" It seems like I remember seeing somewhere motorized widgets intended to = deploy/conceal ceiling mounted LCD projectors. Perhaps one of these = could be adapted to your purpose. HTH, -- r. Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu _______________________________________ >He would like to attach a lift of some kind so that he can lower it, = fill >up the machines, then repolace the machines to there previous position. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Copper Tubing Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:53:39 -0700 Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B7323A83 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu> From: "Storms, Randy" If I send you some Mason jars, will you save me a couple quarts of the = "good stuff"? ;> -- r. Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu --------------------------------------------------- >I am starting on a project involving a rather larger number of copper = fittings >and copper 3/4" pipe. =20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050430145444.391.qmail [at] web20428.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: b d Subject: Re: Open source software ver. 2 In-Reply-To: 6667 Mike, Forgot to mention inkscape. www.inkscape.org. I have not personnaly used it but I hear it's definately worth checking out. Similar to illustrator. Billed as a scalable vector graphics editor. Go to the site and check out some of the screenshots. Brian Dambacher MeadowBrook Theatre Ensemble __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4273A135.5F70FE1C [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:16:06 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: New Theater Space References: Ford H Sellers wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hey Congrats, > > My two cents: Storage: Often overlooked on the front end is where > to put your lights when not in use, where to store Stock Scenery and Props, > and a space big enough to paint a drop without encumbering the acting > space. In addition I've seen several "Auditoriums" recently which ave the > ability to fly things, but only to ceiling height...as the fly loft was cut > for budgetary or aesthetic reasons....A complete waste. Other thoughts...A > closed LAN for lighting, About 2/3's of your dimmers breaking out of > multi-cables from your grid, and Box-Boom lighting positions at the front > of house. Front of house lighting positions that can be reached without ladders and lifts. Additional heavy power feeds for touring racks. Heavy power feed for touring sound ampland. Large empty conduit ( 4 inch minimum, six inch better ) from ampland to FOH mix position. Rehearsal location out in audience for lighting board/sound/etc. Appropriate cabling to support it. Power/intercom/DMX/lan. Convenience outlets all over the place in the seating area. You never know where you may want to put a follow spot or some damn thing that needs power. Power plugs in the handicapped seating areas for recharging their mobies. Empty conduits from a central wiring closet or booth to everywhere for future low voltage use. Wifi access to regular LAN ( not the show control network ), and if you are an educational institution, lots more power outlets for students to plug in their laptops. Empty conduits, power and mounting locations for cameras from the local cable company public access channel. Seats that are wider to accommodate the spreading butts of your audiences. Remember that someone who comes to a show and spends most of the evening concentrating on their uncomfortable seat is probably not coming back. Loading dock that you can back in a 53 foot semitrailer. Parking spots for the tour bus, with power, water, drain, phone and LAN connections. Tall and wide doorways and hallways from the loading dock to the stage and scene shop. Showers in the dressing rooms. Cable pass-throughs next to doorways, especially outside doors for a recording or production truck. Consider a parking spot for a satellite uplink truck. Power and cable passthroughs, and a equatorial view. Courtesy monitors and sound system for lobby, bar/lounge, bathrooms, and dressing rooms fed from fixed camera in the house. Zoned paging for them as well. Integrate with fire alarm system. Smoke detectors that can be turned off temporarily when using smoke/haze/mist effects. Provision for automatic re-enabling of smoke detectors after n hours. work with fire marshall on system design. Assuming you are in a no-smoking building area, a smokers exile area that is comfortable, not too far away, and provided with a courtesy monitor and sound during performances. No ventilation intakes around the smokers area. No lifts needed for handicapped access to stage, upper and lower seating areas. Lifts are expensive and break down a lot. Insist on on-site inspections during construction. Go on-site at least twice a week to keep on top of things. Agreed upon changes have an unfortunate habit of falling off the plans. Other changes just happen without any design team consultation. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001401c54d97$ce791790$6b01a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Re: Light lab activities? Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:18:01 -0500 Cris Dopher posted "Many Yale designers use NC and L201 (and frost) almost exclusively.." Yes - since Tom Skelton left and Jennifer Tipton joined. Bill Conner YSD '79 ps: Tom was on the faculty from 76 to 79 and I believe Jennifer joined beginning in the fall of '79. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:42:07 -0400 Subject: Re: OT: Radiant Floor Heating From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Check and see if This Old House has a website with archives of their projects. They do radiant heating quite a bit. Steve > From: Scott Parker > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:45:05 -0400 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: OT: Radiant Floor Heating > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Greetings All, > > Has anyone dealt with installing a radiant floor heating system? I > have one in my kitchen, but I'm planning on retrofitting the rest of > my first floor with a staple up system between the joists. > > I am also planning on adding heat to the basement floor. I have two > choices here: 1. Laying down sleepers with PEX tubing running in > between, laying atop thin insulation. > 2. Laying down snap together sectional floor units that have tracks > for the tubing. > > Does anyone have any experience with either? Does anyone have any > advice before I delve into this adventure? > > Thanks, Scott > > > -- > Take care, Scott > > Scott C. Parker > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4273B3D1.AF1E87A0 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:35:29 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: OT: Radiant Floor Heating References: Scott Parker wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Greetings All, > > Has anyone dealt with installing a radiant floor heating system? I > have one in my kitchen, but I'm planning on retrofitting the rest of > my first floor with a staple up system between the joists. > > I am also planning on adding heat to the basement floor. I have two > choices here: 1. Laying down sleepers with PEX tubing running in > between, laying atop thin insulation. > 2. Laying down snap together sectional floor units that have tracks > for the tubing. > > Does anyone have any experience with either? Does anyone have any > advice before I delve into this adventure? Take fanatical care with the joints. Provide for an access panel to the manifold. That way when the mice nibble on a tube to make a leak in that, you can get in there to turn off that loop. make an as-built drawing of all the loops and laminate it, leave it inside that access panel. Lots of smaller loops rather than fewer longer loops. Don't put a staple or nail through the tubing. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:39:32 -0400 From: Daniel Kelly Reply-To: Daniel Kelly Subject: Re: OT Electrical Engineering Question In-Reply-To: References: 480V three phase is the standard for passenger car power. Electrified railways in this area (greater Philadelphia) run on either 11KV or 25KV from the catenary. Rapid transit runs strictly on 600VDC. To power the 480V passenger equipment, locomotives are equipped with the necessary transformers and/or generators. In our case, we will be equipping one coach with an undercar generator, which will power the trainline. On 4/29/05, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > For curiosity, how do you pick up 480V three-phase? Most electric railway= s > use 15/6.25 KV supplies from overhead connectors, or 600V DC from a third= rail, > Some, such as the Eurostar, use both. This must be a real pain. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050430095007.00b0a458 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:50:07 From: CB Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? >Short notice visas are VERY expensive, nobody else wanted to >go, I had no Russian guides or dictionairies, and it had >been 10 years since Russian class. Nice, but not a decent excuse in the bunch. Rationalizations like these are the fertilizer that regrets grow in, brother. Next time, just go and enjoy the adventure. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:50:50 EDT Subject: Re: A Suggestion for the List In a message dated 30/04/05 00:48:07 GMT Daylight Time, jacki14fr [at] yahoo.com writes: > And Frank, isn't it about time you left for France? Next Saturday. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3998154b05043009575dcf6a42 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:57:53 -0700 From: Paul Puppo Reply-To: Paul Puppo Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? In-Reply-To: References:

There's the fountains at Peterhoff (Peter the Great's palace), Catherine's Palace, and Pushkin Palace, all just outside of town. One of which was burned by the departing germans towards the end of WWII, reconstruction started before the war ended. Art students were used to repaint the murals and such (beautiful). But nobody could tell me where the money for restoration came from. I didn't get to see them, but the subway (underground) stations are supposed to be second to only to Moscow's for opulance. (no, really!) Paul Puppo ILLUMINEERING http://www.Nifty-Gadgets.com =20 On 4/30/05, Steve Larson wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Don't forget the Fortress of St. Peter and Paul and > the Romanov graves. I visited a country palace when > I was there, stunning. Most museums allow pictures, > but you have to purchase a sticker that goes on > your shirt to indicate to the workers that you have > paid to shoot. Hermitage does take lots of time. >=20 > Steve >=20 > > From: David d'Anjou > > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:09:58 -0400 > > To: "Stagecraft" > > Subject: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? > > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Does anyone have any experience in St. Petersburg, Russia? I am there > > next week lighting a dance show. Any suggestions or advice are > > appreciated - - places to go, people to meet, things to watch out for > > at the Mikahailovsky Theatre. > > > > -David d'Anjou > > > > >=20 > ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <206.117df4.2fa513ad [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:00:29 EDT Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? In a message dated 30/04/05 03:10:25 GMT Daylight Time, ddanjou [at] gmail.com writes: > Does anyone have any experience in St. Petersburg, Russia? I am there > next week lighting a dance show. Any suggestions or advice are > appreciated - - places to go, people to meet, things to watch out for > at the Mikahailovsky Theatre. The Hermitage museum is a must, but time consuming. It sounds as though you won't be able to get to the Maryinsky Theatre. The Admiralty and the Peter and Paul Fortress come to mind. The Peterhof Palace is a long way out of town. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:26:16 -0400 From: cdavis309 [at] optonline.net Subject: Re: Light lab activities? Message-id: <5379d53537bbbd.537bbbd5379d53 [at] optonline.net> At 10:18 AM 4/30/2005 -0500, Bill Conner wrote: >Cris Dopher posted "Many Yale designers use NC and L201 (and frost) >almost exclusively.." > >Yes - since Tom Skelton left and Jennifer Tipton joined. IMO Yale seems to be turning out Tipton clones, or more accurately LDs that use JT's methods, but without that certain something that makes Tipton's lighting Tipton's. The net result is a lot of exceptionally bland lighting passing for "high art". I don't know if this is a function of JT's teaching methods (I doubt it), or just young LD's that haven't yet found their own voices. __________________________________ Chris Davis cdavis [at] queenstheatre.org Associate Lighting Supervisor Queens Theatre In The Park http://www.queenstheatre.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:36:43 -0400 Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 4/30/05 9:50 AM, CB at psyd [at] cox.net wrote: > Nice, but not a decent excuse in the bunch. Rationalizations like these > are the fertilizer that regrets grow in, brother. Next time, just go and > enjoy the adventure. As Kurt Vonnegut once said "Unexpected invitations to travel are dancing lessons from heaven." So. How many of y'all left coasters wanna get on your bikes and join the LRLR ride, eh? Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:44:42 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c54dac$4db3cd70$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > As Kurt Vonnegut once said "Unexpected invitations to travel > are dancing lessons from heaven." I'll remember that the next time someone tells me to go to hell. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:48:39 -0400 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: Storage in a Tiny Theatre In-Reply-To: References: On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:17:50, CB wrote: > This is a paraphrase of 'Chris' First Law of Ladies' Handbags'. (See: > Chris' Gravitational Postulate' and other rules of life.) I want to make trucks from the same material that is used for my wife's pocketbook. I swear my arm will disappear up to my shoulder if I try and find anything in there. She has more loose change then the federal mint, and enough tissues and gum wrappers to cover the broad side of a barn. If only I can harness that power on a larger scale, trucking costs will become a non issue for tours, and I can make a fortune on the patent. Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1e2.3b1f3317.2fa52053 [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:54:27 EDT Subject: Re: Copper Tubing In a message dated 30/04/05 03:39:45 GMT Daylight Time, paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net writes: > For instance, amd making a rectangle and need a finished ID of one side to > be 73 inches. On either end is an elbow and there are 4 equally spaced > "tee's". How long should the pipe sections be? > I know I can figure it out but... or .... There's an old adage. "Cut to size, file to fit, paint to hide". > > I did ask earlier about anyone having a good techinque for polishing copper > but did not receive 3 digests which would have contained any answers. So if > anyone does have a super techinque, please either repost it or send it to me > privately. Coarse emery paper, fine emery paper, flour emery paper. Then metal polish. It's hard work. A polishing wheel on a grinder may take some of the drudgery out. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <8e.266691d7.2fa5214e [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:58:38 EDT Subject: Re: Storage in a Tiny Theatre In a message dated 30/04/05 05:07:34 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > >The amount of gear to be stored expands to fill the available space, and > >probably to overflow it. > > This is a paraphrase of 'Chris' First Law of Ladies' Handbags'. (See: > Chris' Gravitational Postulate' and other rules of life.) Actually, it's a paraphrase of Parkinson's Law. "Work expands to fill the time available." Most of these are true. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:02:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 4/30/05 1:44 PM, Jeffrey E. Salzberg at stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com wrote: >> As Kurt Vonnegut once said "Unexpected invitations to travel >> are dancing lessons from heaven." > > I'll remember that the next time someone tells me to go to hell. Yeah, but that's not an invitation. More like a command. <> ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:06:10 EDT Subject: Re: Light lab activities? In a message dated 30/04/05 05:07:55 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > Look at the movie, 'The Girl with the Pearl Earring'. The Designer wanted > the film to resemble teh paintings of Vermeer as much as possible, and the > light that was available for Vermeer to actually have worked with. As far > as I'm concerned (as a skweek) I think it was a remarkable success. And > yes, the grip electricians used a lot of colour, Frank. Look at the painting, and I have just walked up two flights of stairs to look at a reproduction of it. If they used a lot of colour, they got it wrong. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050429190748.00b2b698 [at] localhost> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:10:51 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: OT Electrical Engineering Question In-Reply-To: References: At 10:27 AM 4/29/2005, you wrote: >phase. In any case, it seems that there's going to be a pretty nasty power >factor > >however you rectify it. I imagine the power factor could be reduced by using a > >choke input filter, but that's a big choke! So, in street car power, how >is the > >AC typically rectified? When dealing with big installations, there isn't that much trouble using three transformers, it actually gives you some backup in case you lose a phase. As for power factor, modern power supplies incorporate a power factor correction circuit. Back then, you just hung inductors/capacitors off the power lines until you got the power factor reasonable. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:13:45 EDT Subject: Re: commas In a message dated 30/04/05 05:07:56 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > >I find as I've grown older (and more used to online communication) that > >properly-implemented block paragraphs really do kick ass as far as > >readability is concerned (all else being equal, of course). > > If they're buried in twenty-six paragraphs of previously-posted previous > posts, however, they might as well be in greek for all the good' it'll do. > I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I really cannot take seriously > the advice of a technician that still can't figure out how to trim their > replies without help. Even less so after the number of pleasant requests > that are continuallyignored on the list. For once, we agree. Wading through line after line after line of previous posts is tedious, especially as I have probably read them. Select the part of the post to which you wish to reply, and delete the rest. Like you, I imagine, I came to the internet when bandwidth was important. It doesn't seem to be, any more. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: "Douglas McCracken" Subject: RE: Bubble Machine Lifts, The Reality Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:17:07 -1000 Message-ID: In-reply-to: > > Run them til the tanks dry, find out what a mess they make, > it may not be a problem. > > Laters, > > Paul > Paul, your work at DHT has made you a Guru of Practicality. Aloha, Douglas ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42738706.31656.A695CC3 [at] localhost> From: "Michael Denison" Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:24:22 -0500 Subject: Re: Light lab activities? Reply-To: In-Reply-To: Also, if you can find it, an old French film named La Kermesse Heroique, or Carnival in Flanders, which is set during the Spanish invasion of the Lowlands in the 17th century. It's in black-and-white, but they've done an incredible job of copying the lighting styles of Breughel, Rembrandt and some of their contemporaries, in some cases panning the camera past a composition from a famous painting. 7F00,0000,0000> Look at the movie, 'The Girl with the Pearl Earring'. The Designer wanted > the film to resemble teh paintings of Vermeer as much as possible, and the > light that was available for Vermeer to actually have worked with. Michael A. Denison Technical Director Cottey College 1000 West Austin Nevada, MO 64772 (417) 667-8181 x 2265 FAX: (417) 667-8103 mdenison [at] cottey.edu www.cottey.edu ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1fd.aab3ca.2fa5275a [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:24:26 EDT Subject: Re: OT Electrical Engineering Question In a message dated 30/04/05 05:28:40 GMT Daylight Time, dale [at] cybercom.net writes: > > Funny that you mention the streetcar project, because railcars are > > actually the very thing I'm dealing with. We've got these 40-50 year > > old Pullman commuter coaches that used to run on the Long Island > > Railroad. They were originally built to operate on 650VDC that came > > from the locomotive, which picked that up from the third rail. 480VAC > > three phase is the standard now, and is what will work universally > > with the rest of our equipment. They were modified to run on 480 VAC > > Delta through the use of these gigantic inverters, which are pretty > > unreliable. London Underground used to use rotary converters. A three-phase motor driving a DC generator. They are surprisingly efficient, often better than 80% > > All of the streetcar/subway systems I've ever dealt with run on > dc somewhere in the 600-700 volt range. Longer distance trains > tend to use even higher voltages, presumably for the transmission > efficiencies. These sorts of converters are probably standard > products from the big electrical gear makers. Try GE. Think of the problems of Eurostar. In England, they have to run on 650V third-rail DC., at least on some of the link. On other parts of the network, they are on 15KV/6.5KV AC, from overhead catenaries. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <144.44b6e3e6.2fa52bf1 [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:44:01 EDT Subject: Re: 3-Phase-Singel Phase (was CD-80 flickering problem) In a message dated 30/04/05 05:28:49 GMT Daylight Time, stagecraft [at] DesignRelief.com writes: > The reason single-phase, 3-wire is called single-phase is that it is > derived from one side of a delta transformer. Instead of a delta-wye (or > delta-star), the transformer is a delta-delta. On the secondary delta, > corner to corner is 240v (in most US domestic applications). If you center > tap one of the sides, you will have 120v from corner to center tap, 120v > from the other corner to center tap. I have always thought that US electrical instllations, were insanitary.Now, I know it. With us, for single-phase. the refernce point tis the neutral. The centre-point of a star. Each corner is 230V away, and the corner-to-corner numbers are 380V. Single-phase is always corner-to-neutral. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: "Douglas McCracken" Subject: RE: CD-80 flickering problem, EDI Scrimmerette II, too Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:48:54 -1000 Message-ID: In-reply-to: Hi, I don't know if this is relevant, but, we have a old EDI dimmer that was/is flickering on one phase. There are two 24 packs using the same power feed so it is narrowed down to one 24 pack. We have not had the time to suss out the problem, but we suspect it may be the control-voltage transformer for that phase going/gone bad. If the processor is receiving improper control voltage, then it would not know what level to send to the SSR. So my thought is.... How about that transformer? My interest in this discussion is that we also have a CD80 96 rack that did something bad on the last rental. We are not sure what as we did not have anyone from our company with the equipment. (this is something that I would like see changed. I can't for the life of me see why we send out major equipment without someone to baby-sit) I got a very frantic phone call at 7:20pm (8pm curtain?) asking me for help. They had lost phase A at the processor, can I help them. Well, I had no idea what was wrong, and I was an hour and a half away. As the rack was powered by a generator, ANYTHING could have happened. BTW, I was told they did some repatching and I heard from a very third party that the show looked great. I don't know how they ran it as the processor draws it's power from the first phase. I can't wait to dive into that! Aloha, Douglas ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1e2.3b1f3346.2fa52dcf [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:51:59 EDT Subject: Re: 3-Phase-Singel Phase (was CD-80 flickering problem) In a message dated 30/04/05 10:00:11 GMT Daylight Time, billn [at] peak.org writes: > Thanks for clarifying the matter. But I doubt if Frank will ever accept > the feed as single phase, regardless of the facts. Not as I understand the term. With our UK numbers, single phase is 230V RMS, between live and neutral. Nothing else. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4273DC6D.3EFDB70 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:28:45 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Copper Tubing References: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 30/04/05 03:39:45 GMT Daylight Time, > paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net writes: > > > For instance, amd making a rectangle and need a finished ID of one side to > > be 73 inches. On either end is an elbow and there are 4 equally spaced > > "tee's". How long should the pipe sections be? > > I know I can figure it out but... or .... With soldered piping, the ends of the pipe usually are a bit short of the inside of the next section. So for an ID of 73, you cut your sticks about 72.5. However, since there is a bit of variably between manuafactures, I'd actually cut a bit long, then test fit the pieces, then trim to exact length. Threaded piping is a different matter. For shining, lemon juice and salt is one way. Polishing compound on a drill is another. then clean the shined copper with distilled water and acetone to remove oils, just before you spray it with clear gloss lacquer. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1114892973.4273eaad6c006 [at] webmail.esta.org> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:29:33 +0100 From: kruling [at] esta.org Subject: Re: St. Petersburg eateries References: In-Reply-To: Quoting Bill Sapsis: > During the afternoon's there used to be a dixieland jazz band near one of > the ritzier hotels. Can't remember the name of it. Karl? The band was > pretty good and it's the only place you'll see a Hawaiian shirt in the whole > town. Hotel Europa. They also offer a brunch inside the hotel that is served with more mainstream jazz accompaniment by a live combo. The brunch is pretty fabulous. It's one of the more expensive places to eat in St. Petersburg, but quite a deal by New York City standards. > > The Japanese restaurant on the canal on the way to the Cathedral of St. > John's Blood...the one with all the cool tile work, is also really good. The > crippled kids who beg for money near the cathedral aren't, but they're > pretty good actors, so throw them a coin or two. The ex-pat bar over by > Horseman square is OK, but I wouldn't make a special trip. The Idiot? Yes. It's only okay, but it's good if you want to sit and hear people speak English. Mexican food in St. Petersburg is odd. It's prepared by Cubans with Russian ingredients. It's better value for money to stick with Russian cuisine. > Don't drink the water, ever. Brush your teeth with beer. Baltika forever! You can also boil the water and then use it. The Russian word for matches is pronounced "speech-ke." We used up our supply lighting the stove to boil water. It was insane trying to mime using a match to light a fire in the stores; that got us nowhere. Then we learned the magic word: "Speechkee, pajalsta." ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ From: Dan Mills Subject: Re: Phasing for Frank was RE: CD-80 flickering problem Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:32:48 +0100 References:

In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <200504302132.48364.dmills [at] spamblock.demon.co.uk> On Saturday 30 April 2005 08:43, Bill Nelson wrote: > Apparently, your cookers are higher wattage than ours. The real place where this shows in in kettles which in the UK have 13A plugs and are often rated at between 2 and 3KW. The American ones just cannot compete! REF the CD-80 problems, try running a heavy earth between the rack and the console. I have never used AMX, but in D54 installations (an even more half assed analogue mux protocol) you often see strange flickers due to earth noise. As both of these systems are single ended with respect to thee level control signal I can see the same problem in AMX as I have painful experience of with D54. Sometimes just running a extension lead from near the racks to power the desk (and its video monitor!) will solve this problem. I do not miss analogue controlled dimmers! Regards, Dan. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000301c54dc6$f33a3a30$6501a8c0 [at] D4D3R151> From: "Randy Whitcomb" Subject: More fun with guns Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:55:31 -0600 Guys like this are the reason TPTB are so risk adverse. In the TV story yesterday he said they had used pellet guns (airsoft type) before with permission, but it turns out the Archdiocese of Denver has a strict no guns policy even for toy guns. http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2844070,00.html# Randy Whitcomb, TD Price Civic Aud. Loveland, CO. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <96c90e34050430142446752c34 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:24:07 -0400 From: David d'Anjou Reply-To: David d'Anjou Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? In-Reply-To: References: Jumping on a new travel chance is how I ended up on this gig - while sorting out my full time job options with Cirque the phone rang with an offer to go to St. Pete's for a week. Boom! that became a prerequisite for all my future plans ("Yes I'd love to, but you know I am already busy for a week in May"). You gotta love these bolts from nowhere! Thanks everyone for the great suggestions and advice. I'll let you know how it goes and what exactly the "nidervolt, 24 Volt x 200 Watt" lights in the FOH turn out to be. D =20 =20 On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:50:07, CB wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > >Short notice visas are VERY expensive, nobody else wanted to > >go, I had no Russian guides or dictionairies, and it had > >been 10 years since Russian class. >=20 > Nice, but not a decent excuse in the bunch. Rationalizations like these > are the fertilizer that regrets grow in, brother. Next time, just go and > enjoy the adventure. > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > OTR >=20 > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates > negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... >=20 --=20 David d'Anjou Cirque du Soleil Mirage 2006 project ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:37:16 -0400 From: Delbert Hall Reply-To: Delbert Hall Subject: Suggestions for Rome? While we are talking about things to do, I will be in Rome in June.=20 Anybody have any suggestions of places to visit or things to see there (other than the normal tourist stuff)? -Delbert --=20 Delbert Hall Phone: 423-772-4255 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:56:15 EDT Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? In a message dated 30/04/05 17:51:30 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: >=20 > Nice, but not a decent excuse in the bunch. Rationalizations like these > are the fertilizer that regrets grow in, brother. Next time, just go and > enjoy the adventure. You do need a visa, though, unless you're travelling with a tour, which I=20 was. In the UK, this costs about =A380 per head, and takes time to get. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:08:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: See a reputable travel agent. They can often expedite the process. Steve > From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:56:15 EDT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? >=20 > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > In a message dated 30/04/05 17:51:30 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writ= es: >=20 >>=20 >> Nice, but not a decent excuse in the bunch. Rationalizations like these >> are the fertilizer that regrets grow in, brother. Next time, just go an= d >> enjoy the adventure. >=20 > You do need a visa, though, unless you're travelling with a tour, which I > was. In the UK, this costs about =A380 per head, and takes time to get. >=20 > Frank Wood >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:12:42 EDT Subject: Re: Light lab activities? In a message dated 30/04/05 18:26:57 GMT Daylight Time, cdavis309 [at] optonline.net writes: > IMO Yale seems to be turning out Tipton clones, or more accurately LDs that > use JT's methods, but without that certain something that makes Tipton's > lighting Tipton's. The net result is a lot of exceptionally bland lighting > passing for "high art". I don't know if this is a function of JT's teaching > methods (I doubt it), or just young LD's that haven't yet found their own > voices. I know neither of these designers, nor their methods. All I can say is that, unless I want to make a srong colour statement, I use the same colours. Possibly even paler, such as L202 or 203. 'Bland' lighting is not a consequence of the colours used, but of where the luminaires are rigged, and how they are focussed, and of the shadows they cast. When I want to make a strong colour statement, it is a different question. Magenta and green cross lights for a nightmare scene, or for a magic one. A single red pageant as a downlighter, focussed very tightly. Mostly, my lighting is realistic, which is why I urge putative LDs to look at paintings, and at the world around them. When you are released from this constraint, do what you will, and know how to do. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1c0.27b809d0.2fa55d49 [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:14:33 EDT Subject: Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? In a message dated 30/04/05 18:45:29 GMT Daylight Time, stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com writes: > I'll remember that the next time someone tells me to go to hell. There is such a town in Norway. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:47:11 -0400 From: "Mr. Kevin Lee Allen" Subject: Re: Suggestions for Rome? In-reply-to: Message-id: References: For a great meal, visit Vecchia Roma at Via della Tribuna di Campitelli=20= 18, Piazza Campitelli, little known to tourists. It is near Campo de=20 Fiori and the Jewish Ghetto. 06 686 4106 Near Piazza Novona and the Pantheon, try Myosotis 06-686-5554 We hated Trattoria Giggetto, also in the Ghetto, but there was a great=20= ruin next door. The time we spent in the Trastevere neighborhood was terrific. Off of=20 the beaten path, but home to many artists. Make sure you know how to=20 pronounce the name Tras-tev-er-ray. Of course I like weird things, like train stations, and enjoyed passing=20= through (and photographing) the Stazione Termini and a little art=20 supply store we found a few blocks from the back of the Pantheon. Ditta=20= G Poggi Via del Ges=FA 74-5, Pantheon & Navona. Amazing pigments. I found the Time Out Rome guide to be a great resource. buona sera On Apr 30, 2005, at 5:37 PM, Delbert Hall wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- > > While we are talking about things to do, I will be in Rome in June. > Anybody have any suggestions of places to visit or things to see there > (other than the normal tourist stuff)? > > -Delbert > --=20 > Delbert Hall > Phone: 423-772-4255 > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:30:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Suggestions for Rome? From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 4/30/05 6:47 PM, Mr. Kevin Lee Allen at klad [at] klad.com wrote: > Of course I like weird things, like train stations, and enjoyed passing > through (and photographing) the Stazione Termini and a little art > supply store we found a few blocks from the back of the Pantheon. Ditta > G Poggi Via del Ges=FA 74-5, Pantheon & Navona. Amazing pigments. What cha mean, weird? I like train stations. (OK. I guess that kind of confirms the weird part, huh?) When I'm in London I stay at the hotel attached to Victoria Station. The station is a great place to watch the people parade go by. Especially on a Friday night after the pubs have closed. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:58:19 -0400 From: Nancy Moeur Subject: Re: Copper Tubing Message-ID: <427AA8B4 [at] OrangeMail> Paul asked: (see, Chris, I can trim and snip too! And I'm a 'lectrician!) >I did ask earlier about anyone having a good techinque for polishing copper >but did not receive 3 digests which would have contained any answers. So if >anyone does have a super techinque, please either repost it or send it to me >privately. I missed those same digests, so maybe this is redundant, but...I polish my copper-bottomed pans with Campbell's tomato soup. "Polish" isn't really the right verb--I spill about a tablespoon or two of soup into the sink after I've poured the rest into a bowl, and then let the pan sit in it. Come back a little while later, and it's all clean. (Given my very limited knowledge of chemistry, I'd hazard a guess that other tomato-based products might work, too.) This might or might not work for you, especially since copper plubming may have some sort of lacquer coating on it. But hey, it's cheap! And non-toxic! And tasty! As to the sizes of various fittings, I'd bet that one of those general reference books available at hardware stores would have that--like the "Pocket Builder's Reference." Or (if you're a CAD user) I bet someone out there has made some blocks of those fittings, and with a bit of diligent searching they might turn up. Try www.cben.net for AutoCAD blocks. hope this helps! -nancy ___________ Nancy Moeur AME, Syracuse Stage & SU Drama nmoeur [at] syr.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <015701c54de6$159c5170$6401a8c0 [at] chris> From: "Chris Warner" Subject: STRAND GSX Kaleidoscope Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:38:24 -0700 Anyone have a link to the users manual for this software package on the GSX? Also, anyone have any experience with the GSX and setting color channels? I am controlling 3 Highend Color Commands with it, and am interested in using this feature on the GSX if I am thinking that is what they are for. Thanks in advance Chris Warner -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <427438B3.6060807 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:02:27 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: OT: Radiant Floor Heating References: Scott, Check out the back issues of Fine Homebuilding magazine. You'll find several articles related to exactly your questions. Am not at home so can't quote issue and page. Good luck Steve Scott Parker wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Greetings All, > > Has anyone dealt with installing a radiant floor heating ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 00:34:35 -0400 From: Chris Davis Subject: Re: Light lab activities? In-reply-to: Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20050501002426.00a29cb0 [at] mail-hub.optonline.net> At 06:12 PM 4/30/2005 -0400, Frank Wood wrote: > I know neither of these designers, nor their methods. Jennifer Tipton is primarily a dance LD. She tends to work within a confined pallette, no color and a little color correction in either direction. A strong color for her would be L161. Her work is all about angle, shape, and intensity, and she's a master at it. >'Bland' lighting is not a consequence of >the colours used, but of where the luminaires are rigged, and how they are >focussed, and of the shadows they cast. Agreed. Mostly, my lighting is >realistic, which is why I urge putative LDs to look at paintings, and at the >world around them. When you are released from this constraint, do what you >will, and know how to do. This is good advice to all LDs, putative or not. __________________________________ Chris Davis cdavis [at] queenstheatre.org Associate Lighting Supervisor Queens Theatre In The Park http://www.queenstheatre.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2955.64.28.53.121.1114928330.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Light lab activities? From: "Bill Nelson" > IMO Yale seems to be turning out Tipton clones, or more accurately LDs > that use JT's methods, but without that certain something that makes > Tipton's lighting Tipton's. The net result is a lot of exceptionally > bland lighting passing for "high art". I don't know if this is a function > of JT's teaching methods (I doubt it), or just young LD's that haven't yet > found their own voices. The problem is that designing with little or no color is harder than using more saturated hues. For one thing, the customers expect to see "natural" or even excessive color. Trying to teach college students to design without color is, in my opinion, wrong. I believe they need to get a number of years of actual design experience first - so they thoroughly understand contrast, shadow, form, intensity etc effects on the stage look. There is not enough time in college to do this. The result is, as you state, a lot of bland and uninteresting lighting. On the other hand, I know a couple of designers who have lit many shows, but feel that the McCandless Method and fairly saturated colors is the only way to go. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050430125902.00aea858 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:59:02 From: CB Subject: Subject: Re: Sharing a fire clean-up story >> Ehm, could you give me a more detailed explanation of 'expectable'? > Sorry. Term of art, as they say. Broadly, you look at the place. >Structure, available fuel, what types of fuel, ignition sources and the >people there are the primary criteria. So, if I have this right, "expectable fire' refers more to what type of conflagration could occur as opposed to when the conflagration would occur? This begins to make far more sense to me. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound OTR Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2997.64.28.53.121.1114929882.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: CD-80 flickering problem - continuing saga From: "Bill Nelson" Here is the most recent news in the saga of the flickering pack. I went to the theatre today and discovered that the pack did not recognize the control signal at all, although the other chained pack was working properly. Disconnecting the other pack and feeding the signal to the malfunctioning pack did nothing. This is the pack that contained my substitute board. I decided to remove the control board and remove/replace the jumpers and work the switches a few times, in case there was a bit of oxidation causing problems. In doing so, I managed to break the phase selection switch - the result being a useless board until I get a new switch or figure out how to jumper it. I then figured I had nothing to lose by examining the original board again. On doing so, I found that the pin with the black wire soldered to it on the input TA4 connector was broken. I don't know if this is the ground or not. I removed the input connector and connector plug off my board and replaced the one in the original board. Upon replacing it in the pack, it started working. Experimenting with various levels on the light board did not create any flickering, so it is possible that the problem is fixed. But I am leary, as that was the case when I originally installed my substitute board. I will just have to wait and see. Meanwhile, there is a show that is just under two weeks from opening night. If it is going to fail, I hope it does so quickly - so we can call in a factory trained technician to look at it. Does anyone happen to know the pinouts for converting from the TA4 to 4 pin XLR at the board input? Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #383 *****************************