Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/ClamAV http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 22156316; Tue, 03 May 2005 03:00:46 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #385 Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 03:00:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #385 1. USITT 06 Session by Cosmo Catalano 2. Seating Risers by "Tom Hackman" 3. TA4 and A4 pinout RE: CD-80 flickering problem - continuing saga by "Paul Sanow" 4. old gasoline disposal by "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" 5. Re: Custom Power Cable by "Stephen E. Rees" 6. Re: old gasoline disposal by "Stephen E. Rees" 7. Re: Copper tubing by Nancy Moeur 8. Re: Storage in a Tiny Theatre by Shawn Palmer 9. Re: old gasoline disposal by "Maurice Moe Conn" 10. Re: jefferson/adams by "Paul Schreiner" 11. Tomato for Copper by "Stephen E. Rees" 12. Re: Suggestions for Rome? by Gregg Carville 13. Re: "Genie" lift recommendation... by "Derek Madonia" 14. Re: old gasoline disposal by Jerry Durand 15. Re: old gasoline disposal by Chris Davis 16. Re: Seating Risers by "Fitch, Tracy" 17. Re: old gasoline disposal by Shawn Palmer 18. Re: shipping beer across state lines... by Michael Sorensen 19. Re: old gasoline disposal by Jerry Durand 20. Re: Seating Risers by David Marks 21. Latex paint disposal by Mark O'Brien 22. Re: Latex paint disposal by IAEG [at] aol.com 23. Re: old gasoline disposal by John Bracewell 24. Re: Copper Tubing by "Paul Guncheon" 25. Big Compass by "Dougherty, Jim" 26. Re: Big cities (was old gasoline disposal) by Bill Sapsis 27. Re: old gasoline disposal by "Don Taco" 28. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by Wood Chip-P26398 29. Re: Seating Risers by James Feinberg 30. Re: Big cities (was old gasoline disposal) by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 31. Re: Storage in a Tiny Theatre by Wood Chip-P26398 32. Re: Suggestions for Rome? by Kevin Lee Allen 33. Re: Big cities (was old gasoline disposal) by Herrick Goldman 34. Re: Big Compass by "Josh Ratty" 35. Re: Big cities (was old gasoline disposal) by "Jon Ares" 36. Re: old gasoline disposal by Stephen Litterst 37. Re: Subject: Re: Sharing a fire clean-up story by Dale Farmer 38. Re: old gasoline disposal by Dale Farmer 39. Re: old gasoline disposal by John Bracewell 40. Re: old gasoline disposal by "Frank E. Merrill" 41. Re: Big cities (was old gasoline disposal) by Bill Sapsis 42. Re: Big cities (was old gasoline disposal) by Bill Sapsis 43. Re: old gasoline disposal by "Stephen E. Rees" 44. Re: old gasoline disposal by John Bracewell 45. Re: old gasoline disposal by "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" 46. Re: old gasoline disposal by IAEG [at] aol.com 47. Re: old gasoline disposal by Mike Brubaker 48. Re: old gasoline disposal by "Stephen E. Rees" 49. Re: Copper tubing by "Wayne Rasmussen" 50. Tucson show by Jerry Durand 51. peeps are at it again... by gregg hillmar 52. Re: Tucson show by IAEG [at] aol.com 53. Re: Tucson show by Mark O'Brien 54. Re: Tucson show by Dale Farmer 55. Re: Suggestions in St. Petersburg? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 56. Re: Suggestions for Rome? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 57. Re: Tucson show by Jerry Durand 58. Re: Tucson show by Dale Farmer 59. Re: Tucson show by IAEG [at] aol.com 60. Re: Copper tubing by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 61. Re: Tucson show by Jerry Durand 62. Re: Tucson show by Jerry Durand 63. Re: Tucson show by IAEG [at] aol.com 64. Re: Big cities (was old gasoline disposal) by Herrick Goldman 65. Re: old gasoline disposal by David Marks 66. Re: CD-80 flickering problem - continuing saga by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com 67. Re: Tomato for Copper by "Simon Shuker" 68. Re: old gasoline disposal by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 69. Re: old gasoline disposal by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 07:45:14 -0400 From: Cosmo Catalano Subject: USITT 06 Session Message-id: <21d5024245d6361da2c5896d299384ab [at] williams.edu> Fellow Stagecrafters-- In a moment of weakness I suggested that I offer a round table discussion of the state of so-called "black box" theatres at next year's USITT Conference. My ultimate hope is to get 4-6 folks--TD's mostly--who have had production experience in both older and/or more modern purpose-built flexible theatres. I plan to look specifically at critical production areas (rigging, seating, masking, audience/cast/crew circulation, and perhaps lighting positions) and see if we can draw some conclusions about what works and what doesn't, what has improved and what hasn't. I'm speaking specifically of spaces that allow multiple configurations of seating and where performance space and audience space are in the same room. If you are interested in participating--or have ideas that may improve upon my preliminary plans for this event--contact me off-list and let me know what experiences you have conducting operations in this type of space. Thanks, Cosmo Cosmo Catalano Production Manager Williams College Dept. of Theatre 1000 Main St. Williamstown, MA 01267 413-597-2590 (office) 413-597-4474 (fax) 413-822-0094 (cell) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003901c54f11$cebb8000$87d11ed8 [at] Hackman1> From: "Tom Hackman" References: Subject: Seating Risers Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:23:55 -0400 Good Morning All: I was informed upon my return from Toronto that the college's advancement office may have found a donor interested in replacing our audience seating risers and chairs. We are currently using 28 year-old Wenger Portamasters. You know, the heavy as hell, rickety, noisy, folding leg kind. What I am looking for is some input from the vast wisdom of the list about favorite vendors and products for this job. I have ballpark figures in hand from Wenger, StageRight and Staging Concepts. All of which are reasonably close. We are talking about a 40'x60' multi-form space with a floor so uneven it makes most look like a piece of glass. I am interested in individual decks (I know it is a tougher set-up) because flexibility is my big concern. We 'own' the space so scheduling changeovers is not a problem, I usually give myself a few days to get it done. Any thoughts from the group? Thanks in advance. Tom Hackman Technical Director Davis & Elkins College Elkins, WV 304-637-5802 ------------------------------ Subject: TA4 and A4 pinout RE: CD-80 flickering problem - continuing saga Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:36:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Paul Sanow" > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Nelson [mailto:billn [at] peak.org] > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 2:45 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: CD-80 flickering problem - continuing saga snip > I then figured I had nothing to lose by examining the original board > again. On doing so, I found that the pin with the black wire=20 > soldered to > it on the input TA4 connector was broken. I don't know if this is the > ground or not. Bingo. You are correct. Funny this didn't show itself as you shuffled around the pack cards... > Does anyone happen to know the pinouts for converting from=20 > the TA4 to 4 > pin XLR at the board input? TA4 A4 Color (Belden 8723) Signal 1 4 Green Clock - 3 2 White Clock + 2 1 Black Common 4 3 Red Analog Multiplex Pair the clocks together, Pair the common and analog Paul *********************************************************** Paul Sanow psanow [at] vls.com Technical Sales www.vincentlighting.com Vincent Lighting Systems 1420 Jamike Ln. #2 Erlanger, KY 41018 (859) 525-2000 x211 FAX (859) 525-2050 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" Subject: old gasoline disposal Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:41:00 -0400 Organization: Home of the RC4 Wireless Dimmer System Message-Id: <20050502124101.UDAV25800.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> Many (comma?) many thanks to you folks with small engine knowledge. (note double space)My lawnmower wouldn't start so I changed the gas and bingo (viola?) -- it started right up! Now, what do I do with the old gas??? Right now it's sitting in an open pail in my back yard. Yikes, that can't be good. Jim www.theatrewireless.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <427623CC.6070109 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:57:48 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Custom Power Cable References: Fisher Theatrical in Catonsville, MD can do this. www.fishertheatrical.com Steve Rees Mike Benonis wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Does anyone know of any reputable dealers in the Washington, DC (Northern > VA) area who can manufacture a custom power cable for me? I need a 50' SEOW > 10/5 cable terminated with L21-20 twist lock connectors. Please reply > off-list. > > > Best regards, > > -Mike Benonis > Senior and Sound Designer/Technician > Stone Bridge High School > 43100 Hay Road > Ashburn, VA 20147 > (703) 779-8900 > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42762642.6050004 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:08:18 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal References: Depending upon what state you are in, your local service station may add it to their used oil collection drum for recycling. Steve Rees jsmith at theatrewireless.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Many (comma?) many thanks to you folks with small engine knowledge. (note > double space)My lawnmower wouldn't start so I changed the gas and bingo > (viola?) -- it started right up! > > Now, what do I do with the old gas??? Right now it's sitting in an open > pail in my back yard. Yikes, that can't be good. > > Jim > www.theatrewireless.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:12:28 -0400 From: Nancy Moeur Subject: Re: Copper tubing Message-ID: <42849AF4 [at] OrangeMail> Chris, the master of post-trimming, asked: >>I spill about a tablespoon or two of soup into the sink after I've >>poured the rest into a bowl, and then let the pan sit in it. >Just the soup, or do you pour a coupla tbsp's into standing water? I like >to add a bit of 2% milk to my Campbell's Tomato to give it some body, and >to make it creamy, and then pepper the hell out of it (you can almost no >longer taste that its a cheap canned soup after all that!). Anyone know if >that'll change whatever chemical reaction we're starting? Just the soup, diluted 1:1 with water. I don't care for milk in it, myself (but cheese on top is good! I digress...). If I'm feeling really determined, I flip a pan over and "paint" the soup on with a basting brush. That way it cleans the sides, too. If you're doing this, the undiluted concentrate "clings" a little better. Drawing on my sketchy chemistry, I'm going to guess that milk might negate the power of the soup, which I assume is a weak acid. Not sure if it would be the milk proteins or the fat that would neutralize the acid, but I think it wouldn't work. I suppose a test could be arranged. Perhaps we should form a panel. (At least tomato soup is tastier than Dale's lemon-juice-and-salt combo!) alright--time for work! -nancy ___________ Nancy Moeur AME, Syracuse Stage & SU Drama nmoeur [at] syr.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4276266C.1080804 [at] northnet.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:09:00 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Storage in a Tiny Theatre References:

In-Reply-To: >>When I tried to do it my AHJ told me I'd have to have the space under >>the seats tied into the sprinler system. Maybe he was having a bad day, >>but c'mon... > > > If you are creating a new storage room, especially one that audience > seating is right on top of, having the space inside sprinklered make > a lot of sense. Smoldering fires in spaces with poor air circulation are > breeding grounds for what's called a flashover. Someone is searching > for the source of that smoke smell, open the door, room air whooshes > in, hot unburned gases whoosh out and ignite explosively. You will > literally be blown over ( and badly burned as well ) by the shock wave > of burning gas coming out. > > --Dale Oops. I thought he was being cranky. My mistake. Silly me :-) Shawn ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Maurice Moe Conn" Subject: RE: old gasoline disposal Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:40:37 +0000 Check with your local service station or auto parts store. I know most "Big" cities don't have service stations anymore, but if you do they should be able to help ya out. We're at it again: Check out www.sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html A Charity ride to help raise money for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS >From: "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" >Reply-To: >To: "Stagecraft" >Subject: old gasoline disposal >Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:41:00 -0400 > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > > >Many (comma?) many thanks to you folks with small engine knowledge. (note >double space)My lawnmower wouldn't start so I changed the gas and bingo >(viola?) -- it started right up! > >Now, what do I do with the old gas??? Right now it's sitting in an open >pail in my back yard. Yikes, that can't be good. > >Jim >www.theatrewireless.com > ------------------------------ Subject: RE: jefferson/adams Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:41:52 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C7FA [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Chris, > Just tell me where to ship, and how much you need. I knew=20 > there was a=20 > reason I still lived in Wisconsin, besides my wife. Offer stands for=20 > any other interested parties, within reason of course. I've always preferred Yuengling over Lienie's (sorry, Chris!)...but I might be interested in some New Glarus varieties! :) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42762E89.5060001 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:43:37 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Tomato for Copper References: Catsup clings better than soup! Works well. ;) Steve Rees Nancy Moeur wrote: > > Drawing on my sketchy chemistry, I'm going to guess that milk might negate the > power of the soup, which I assume is a weak acid. Not sure if it would be the > milk proteins or the fat that would neutralize the acid, but I think it > wouldn't work. I suppose a test could be arranged. Perhaps we should form a > panel. (At least tomato soup is tastier than Dale's lemon-juice-and-salt > combo!) > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2c0e151605050206456baca72f [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:45:27 -0400 From: Gregg Carville Reply-To: Gregg Carville Subject: Re: Suggestions for Rome? In-Reply-To: References:

Rome is a great place for just walking around w/out a purpose. You take a turn here, then there and all of a sudden something amazing in front of you. Look up, down left and right as you walk - great little details in architecture at all levels of view. Go into a store off the beaten path, have an expresso, watch the locals.=20 The hill up behind Trastevere is a neat hike - great views, etc. I love the gellatto, there is one place a few alleys from the Trevi Fountain that was real good (I can get back there, but can't remember the name - probably in the guide books) The Bernini's in the museum that is up in the park beside the Piazza du Poppolo (I am sure my spelling is way off) is way worth any wait. Sublime sculpture. I loved the graffitti in the Vatican Museum - nothing like a "Kilroy was here" type of thing dated in the 1400's. For me I think the amazing part was the sense of age - here in the States it just isn't the same. have fun! -Gregg ------------------------------ Subject: RE: "Genie" lift recommendation... Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:40:07 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Derek Madonia" =20 We own a JLG 25AM. It has a fairly small footprint and feels very stable at height. It also works on AC or battery pack. Invariablely one crew, sets or electrics, will not leave the unit on charge and "screw" the next crew! Derek Madonia Master Electrician Geva Theatre Center (585) 232-1366 x3054 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050502074931.029c50b8 [at] localhost> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 07:59:31 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal In-Reply-To: References: At 05:41 AM 5/2/2005, you wrote: >Now, what do I do with the old gas??? Right now it's sitting in an open >pail in my back yard. Yikes, that can't be good. Around here we're encouraged to turn it in to the county recycling center, only when you look into it you have to deliver it in a non-damaged approved gasoline container...and you don't get the container back! I had expected them to just pour it into a drum, nope, that would take someone in a hazmat suit in a special gas-pouring room. *sigh* Seems the easiest thing to do is either burn it in small quantities, make a gasoline mortar at the next pyro convention, or ??? BTW, we just got a note that we can no longer toss fluorescent lights or mercury thermometers. Also, we're supposed to turn in ALL mercury thermometers (each sealed in a zip-top) and replace them with non-mercury ones (they'll give us one free non-mercury one if we turn in all of our "bad" ones). Somehow I don't think their free one would work as well as my NIST Certified mercury one. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:10:59 -0400 From: Chris Davis Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal In-reply-to: Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20050502110832.00a260b0 [at] mail-hub.optonline.net> If it's just a quart or so, just dump it in your car's gas tank. Of course, after sitting over night in an open bucket, you may want to come up with a different solution. At 08:41 AM 5/2/2005 -0400, "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" wrote: >Now, what do I do with the old gas??? Right now it's sitting in an open >pail in my back yard. Yikes, that can't be good. > >Jim >www.theatrewireless.com __________________________________ Chris Davis cdavis [at] queenstheatre.org Associate Lighting Supervisor Queens Theatre In The Park http://www.queenstheatre.org ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Seating Risers Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:12:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Fitch, Tracy" I bought mine (3' x 6' ers) from Secoa last year and having used the others before, I wouldn't want to go back. They use 1-1/4" pipe as legs if I need a custom deal but I bought them with stock height legs with the adjustable footpads. They only use four legs instead of six like most other company's stuff so there are less legs to store/move around but I don't notice any extra deflection. Plus, they were less expensive for me than any of the other guys. --Tracy Fitch TD, UNC Charlotte; LD, Everywhere Else > From: Tom Hackman > I was informed upon my return from Toronto that the college's > advancement office may have found a donor interested in replacing our > audience seating risers and chairs. We are currently using 28 year-old > Wenger Portamasters. You know, the heavy as hell, rickety, noisy, folding > leg kind. > What I am looking for is some input from the vast wisdom of the list > about favorite vendors and products for this job. I have ballpark figures > in > hand from Wenger, StageRight and Staging Concepts. All of which are > reasonably close. We are talking about a 40'x60' multi-form space with a > floor so uneven it makes most look like a piece of glass. I am interested > in > individual decks (I know it is a tougher set-up) because flexibility is my > big concern. We 'own' the space so scheduling changeovers is not a > problem, ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42764297.1090701 [at] northnet.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:09:11 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal References:

In-Reply-To: > BTW, we just got a note that we can no longer toss fluorescent lights or > mercury thermometers. Also, we're supposed to turn in ALL mercury > thermometers (each sealed in a zip-top) and replace them with > non-mercury ones (they'll give us one free non-mercury one if we turn in > all of our "bad" ones). Somehow I don't think their free one would work > as well as my NIST Certified mercury one. > ---------- > Jerry Durand You're in California, right? Where everything has been known to cause cancer? I am surprised you just got such a note... Here I haven't been able to toss fluorescent lamps for years. I have to store them, and evety six months to a year a lamp recycling company comes in and takes them. I also find it funny that a single broken mercury thermomenter shuts down entire schools, when in fact the REALLY dangerous stuff is in the chemistry store room. You know, the one that has the really OLD cool stuff left over from when the last 90 year old guy retired. I was quite surprised at what that turned up... Shawn P Neenah WI USA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050502152728.53018.qmail [at] web50708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:27:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sorensen Subject: Re: shipping beer across state lines... In-Reply-To: >From: john penisten >In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Chris, Just tell me where to ship, and how much you need. I knew there was a reason I still lived in Wisconsin, besides my wife. Offer stands for any other interested parties, within reason of course. > Leinenkugels's beer. This year, unfortunately, I was on the road and > the > beer went (I believe) to the sister-in-law's parents, Just as a warning, shipping any alcoholic beverage across state lines without a license is considered bootlegging, unless the sending party and receiving party lives in a state with reciprocity laws. You can check out your state here: http://www.wineinstitute.org/shipwine/analysis/intro_analysis.htm Michael Sorensen "It's all just a scam, isn't it? You get those actors to put on a show, just so you can have a good reason to play with your toys." --Christopher Stasheff, "A Slight Detour" Proton Lighting and Video "We positively charge up your show!" Phone: 520-232-3540 Email: chaoscon666 [at] yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050502082413.029a89a0 [at] localhost> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:30:22 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal In-Reply-To: References:

At 08:09 AM 5/2/2005, you wrote: >You're in California, right? Where everything has been known to cause >cancer? I am surprised you just got such a note... > >Here I haven't been able to toss fluorescent lamps for years. I have to >store them, and evety six months to a year a lamp recycling company comes >in and takes them. I forgot to mention this covers residential now as well as business. I also see the county is taking over the sewer system in our town "for environmental reasons". After July 1st we have to call the county for any service, bet the response time gets longer than the hour or two it currently is (with earthquakes we get a lot of cracked lines so clogs can be common in some places). ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42764841.3020803 [at] comcast.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:33:21 -0400 From: David Marks Subject: Re: Seating Risers References: In-Reply-To: Not to hijack this thread but I'd be interested to hear about any recommendations for pull out risers, preferably self-storing or built in dolly type/roll away. Dave Marks ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: From: James Feinberg Subject: Re: Seating Risers Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:15:47 -0700 I've just ordered risers (I believe the company calls them portable staging) made by Midwest Folding Products . I've used them in the past, and been very happy with them. Of course, now I can't find the contact info for the vendor I used, but I believe it may have been a retail arm of the manufacturer. --James Feinberg University of San Diego ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Big cities (was old gasoline disposal) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:17:56 -0400 Message-ID: <001501c54f3a$e4e5f3a0$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Speaking of big cities, I read in the local paper today that > Philadelphia, where I am, is the most depressed city in the > US. Bill, I'm sure it's not *entirely* your fault....but I just increased my donation; does that make you feel better? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014D202957F6D8118924000F20D7342B05DDC8A3 [at] az33exm01.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: Storage in a Tiny Theatre Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:18:00 -0700 Know my wife, do you? -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB This is a paraphrase of 'Chris' First Law of Ladies' Handbags'. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:25:59 -0400 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: Suggestions for Rome? In-reply-to: Message-id: References:

John, You certainly can reuse the filter if you wash it in Woolite on the gentle cycle and then line dry after carefully hand blotting out the excess moisture. Blocking the filter is not usually required although it may loose a bit of its shape and not fit as well as when new. ;) I think I should find real work today. Too much time on my hands. Steve Rees John Bracewell wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >> > His suggestion was >> > to pour the gas through a coffee filter to strain out any contaminants >> >> So that explains the odd taste to John's coffee. :) > > > Darn! You mean I wasn't supposed to reuse the filter? > > --JLB ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20050502161946.03127c90 [at] pop.lightlink.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:22:40 -0400 From: John Bracewell Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal In-Reply-To: References:

>John, >You certainly can reuse the filter if you wash it in Woolite on the gentle >cycle and then line dry after carefully hand blotting out the excess >moisture. Blocking the filter is not usually required although it may >loose a bit of its shape and not fit as well as when new. ;) Waal, ya know. I tried the Woolite thang, but it made the kawfy taste a hole lot wurse, so I guv it up as a bad job. Never thunk a blocking the leetle critter. Might a helped. Leastwise would a gone back in the pot a lot easier. -- JLB (Can you tell I'm just about out the door and on the road to retirement?) ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "jsmith at theatrewireless.com" Subject: RE: old gasoline disposal Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 16:23:54 -0400 Organization: Home of the RC4 Wireless Dimmer System In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050502202356.ZHDN27245.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> > Now, what do I do with the old gas??? Thank you all for your info and suggestions! Unfortunately, we got some stormy weather this morning while I was out at meetings. Now I have a pail of acid rain and gasoline. Luckily, it didn't overflow. I would have mixed the old gas with the new, or put the old gas in my car. But now I have to deal with the water. Sigh. Jim www.theatrewireless.com ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1fe.c7b664.2fa7e7bc [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 16:29:48 EDT Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal In a message dated 5/2/05 4:24:40 PM, stagecraft [at] theatrewireless.com writes: << Thank you all for your info and suggestions! Unfortunately, we got some stormy weather this morning while I was out at meetings. Now I have a pail of acid rain and gasoline. Luckily, it didn't overflow. I would have mixed the old gas with the new, or put the old gas in my car. But now I have to deal with the water. Sigh. Jim www.theatrewireless.com >> sounds like you have stumbled on a historic recreation of Cleveland Cayuga River in the 60's ! very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050502153517.03b3a6d8 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:36:46 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal In-Reply-To: References:

At 03:35 PM 5/2/2005, you wrote: > take lots of sunscreen, drink electrolyte drinks, and do you need any >helpers? *grins* > > --Dale Hopefully the drinks will be supplied, if not...is there a Costco in town? Helpers may be needed, that's why we were asked. Combination of electrically and hand-fired shells. Normal requirements apply: US citizen, over 18, no felony convictions ever, not on any government black list, etc. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4276B450.25C7296A [at] cybercom.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:14:25 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Tucson show References:

Jerry Durand wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > At 03:35 PM 5/2/2005, you wrote: > > take lots of sunscreen, drink electrolyte drinks, and do you need any > >helpers? *grins* > > > > --Dale > > Hopefully the drinks will be supplied, if not...is there a Costco in town? > > Helpers may be needed, that's why we were asked. Combination of > electrically and hand-fired shells. > > Normal requirements apply: US citizen, over 18, no felony convictions > ever, not on any government black list, etc. If they will cover airfare from Boston and expenses, I'm game. How far is tucson from Phoenix? I've got some friends there I'd like to visit. I may even stay out there a while, I'm not making much of a living here. Thinking about moving to Lost Wages. Heard they opened some new casinos there. --Dale ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1c3.27d92b9c.2fa80dd2 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 19:12:18 EDT Subject: Re: Tucson show In a message dated 5/2/05 7:06:32 PM, jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes: << Helpers may be needed, that's why we were asked. Combination of electrically and hand-fired shells. >> I assisted on a hand fired show 20 years ago, , , , opening and closing a metal trash can while a runner shuttled the next numbered shell to the shooter with the tubes, , with hot embers falling around you,, , fun fun fun, , Don't let one fall in the can while it's open! one 10" shell mis fired, , went up 60' in the air, , fell back towards earth and blew up about 20 feet above the ground about 40' from me, , we didn't have a "flower pot" failure thankfully don't want to sound like a "whiner" because I know there are heroic combat vets on this list, , but that was as close to combat conditions I care to come in contact with I love fireworks though, , , , love em, , , very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <96.268d1c72.2fa80de1 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 19:12:33 EDT Subject: Re: Copper tubing In a message dated 02/05/05 22:46:47 GMT Daylight Time, rasmuw [at] blair.edu writes: > This is the same process for polishing aluminum on a motorcycle, and the > results are amazingly long-lasting. Or anywhere else. I have a 2" cube aluminium die (singular of dice), mounted on a pedestal and base. It is probably thirty years since I assembled it, possibly more. I have never polished it, and it is still bright and shiny. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050502161520.02995a50 [at] localhost> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:18:36 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Tucson show In-Reply-To: References: At 04:12 PM 5/2/2005, you wrote: >I assisted on a hand fired show 20 years ago, , , , opening and closing a >metal trash can while a runner shuttled the next numbered shell to the >shooter >with the tubes, , A few changes since then, no reloads. There will be 3000 mortars all pre-loaded! >one 10" shell mis fired, , went up 60' in the air, , fell back towards earth >and blew up about 20 feet above the ground about 40' from me, , we didn't >have a "flower pot" failure thankfully I have Nomex coveralls, Nomex flight gloves, and a Nomex balaclava to go under my hard hat with built in face shield and ear muffs. Normally nothing over 5" or so is hand fired. >don't want to sound like a "whiner" because I know there are heroic combat >vets on this list, , but that was as close to combat conditions I care to >come >in contact with The combat has been somewhat tamed. :) >I love fireworks though, , , , love em, , , Hopefully the CPSC and Homeland Security don't completely do them in. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050502161925.02994a68 [at] localhost> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:20:52 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Tucson show In-Reply-To: References:

At 04:14 PM 5/2/2005, you wrote: > If they will cover airfare from Boston and expenses, I'm game. How >far is tucson from Phoenix? I've got some friends there I'd like to >visit. I may even stay out there a while, I'm not making much of a >living here. Thinking about moving to Lost Wages. Heard they opened >some new casinos there. There is SOME pay, I don't have a figure yet but in general fireworks pay wouldn't cover a bus trip, much less airfare. I'll send you the contact person's e-mail off-list. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 19:23:57 EDT Subject: Re: Tucson show In a message dated 5/2/05 7:19:12 PM, jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes: << A few changes since then, no reloads. There will be 3000 mortars all pre-loaded! >> we did have "finale racks" two sets of about 800 small diameter tubes each, , , lite one fuse and STAND BACK, i think the show ended with about 100 titanium salutes, , , , deafening! and blinding ! very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:57:05 -0400 Subject: Re: Big cities (was old gasoline disposal) From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: You're a close second there fella. On 5/2/05 3:32 PM, "Bill Sapsis" wrote: > And if you want to put Jimmy Carter ahead of me, well, I > guess that's OK. <> Seriously, he's a truly remarkable man. Having him > ahead of me is an honor. > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4276FB35.2010106 [at] comcast.net> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 00:16:53 -0400 From: David Marks Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal References:

In-Reply-To: Stephen E. Rees wrote: > Keith, > That's actually the Cuyahoga River, not the Cayuga which is in New > York State. Funny, my dad taught me this little ditty in my youth: High above Cayuga's waters, there's an awful smell, some say it's Cayuga's waters, others say........ well, I'd better stop there. My dad was a die hard Syracuse graduate. dave marks (from Keuka Lake) ------------------------------ From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1fd.cdbb51.2fa85600 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 00:20:16 EDT Subject: Re: CD-80 flickering problem - continuing saga >sdwheaton [at] fuse.net writes: >The TA4M.... >pin 1 Clock- >pin 2 Common >pin 3 Clock+ >pin 4 Analog AMX > >The XLR4 .... >pin 1 Common >pin 2 Clock+ >pin 3 Analog AMX >pin 4 Clock- This is the published standard but unfortunately not all installers bother to read or follow the standard. I once spent a lot of time ringing out the pins in a system where the rack was creatively wired. Ended up building an adapter box with a terminal strip inside to facilitate metering and switching the wires around until the right combination was established. Finally determined that I had Clock + on pin 1, Common on 2, Clock - on 3 and Analog on 4. Standards are a wonderful thing. Just don't assume that everyone follows them. SteveV Orl, FL ------------------------------ From: "Simon Shuker" Cc: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: RE: Tomato for Copper Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 08:43:50 +0400 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050503044411.C16AE584C [at] mail05.powweb.com> I seem to remember coca cola also cleans copper very well. Simon -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Stephen E. Rees Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:44 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Tomato for Copper For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Catsup clings better than soup! Works well. ;) Steve Rees Nancy Moeur wrote: > > Drawing on my sketchy chemistry, I'm going to guess that milk might > negate the power of the soup, which I assume is a weak acid. Not sure > if it would be the milk proteins or the fat that would neutralize the > acid, but I think it wouldn't work. I suppose a test could be > arranged. Perhaps we should form a panel. (At least tomato soup is > tastier than Dale's lemon-juice-and-salt > combo!) > ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: old gasoline disposal Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 01:29:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c54fa1$0827c440$6701a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Funny, my dad taught me this little ditty in my youth: > > High above Cayuga's waters, > there's an awful smell, > some say it's Cayuga's waters, > others say........ > > well, I'd better stop there. My dad was a die hard Syracuse graduate. My dad (CCNY) taught me the same song. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1516.64.28.54.63.1115107359.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 01:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal From: "Bill Nelson" > Thank you all for your info and suggestions! Unfortunately, we got some > stormy weather this morning while I was out at meetings. Now I have a > pail > of acid rain and gasoline. Luckily, it didn't overflow. I would have > mixed the old gas with the new, or put the old gas in my car. But now I > have to deal with the water. Sigh. I used to fly small aircraft, and the water is not really a big problem. It will settle to the bottom of your container, so you can pour off the gasoline. Add some gasoline drier to the gasoline (I think it is just denatured ethanol) and put a bit in each tank of gas in your vehicle. Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #385 *****************************