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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #386

 1. Re: Big Compass
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 2. Re: Big Compass
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
 3. Re: 3-Phase-Singel Phase (was CD-80 flickering problem)
    by "Nigel Worsley" <nigle [at] dsl.pipex.com>
 4. Re: Big Compass
    by "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
 5. Re: Seating Risers
    by "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
 6. Question about The Mousetrap...sorry
    by Shawn Palmer <shawnp [at] northnet.net>
 7. ETC smartpack dimmers
    by b d <tecdir [at] yahoo.com>
 8. Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
 9. Re: old gasoline disposal
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
10. Re: ETC smartpack dimmers
    by "Abby Downing" <aldowning [at] onlocationls.com>
11. Tomato Soup and other flavorings (was Re: Copper tubing)
    by Michael Powers <mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu>
12. Re: Eartec TD 900 pro wireless comm system?
    by "Michael Diederich" <mdiederich [at] mvcc.edu>
13. Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by Michael Powers <mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu>
14. Re: old gasoline disposal
    by "richard j. archer" <rja10 [at] cornell.edu>
15. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by Shawn Palmer <shawnp [at] northnet.net>
16. Re: 3-Phase-Singel Phase (was CD-80 flickering problem)
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
17. Re: Suggestions for Rome
    by "Ehrenberg, Steven" <StevenEhrenberg [at] clearchannel.com>
18. Re: Mercury thermometers and waxing nostalgic
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
19. Re: old gasoline disposal
    by John Bracewell <jbrace [at] lightlink.com>
20. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by John Bracewell <jbrace [at] lightlink.com>
21. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by Fierce Fish <fierceness [at] tragedy.biomass.to>
22. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
23. Re: Mercury thermometers and waxing nostalgic
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
24. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
25. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
26. Re: Big Compass
    by Kevin Holly <kholly [at] mac.com>
27. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
28. Re: Tucson show...
    by Michael Sorensen <chaoscon666 [at] yahoo.com>
29. 1940's Night Club Pix
    by "Charles J Korecki" <ckorecki [at] hotmail.com>
30. Re: Need Source For Bosum's Whistle
    by "Charles J Korecki" <ckorecki [at] hotmail.com>
31. Re: Tomato for Copper
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
32. Re: Storage in a Tiny Theatre
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
33. ¿habla espanol?
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
34. Re: 3-Phase-Singel Phase (was CD-80 flickering problem)
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
35. Tucson show
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
36. Job Opening
    by Mike Katz <mkatz [at] MIT.EDU>
37. Re: Storage in a Tiny Theatre
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
38. Re: Big Compass
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
39. Re: Tucson show
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
40. Re: Suggestions for Rome?
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
41. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
    by Steve Larson <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
42. Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
43. Re: old gasoline disposal/ALma Mater... 
    by MissWisc [at] aol.com
44. Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
45. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by MissWisc [at] aol.com
46. Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
47. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
48. Re: Copper tubing
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
49. Re: Tucson show
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
50. Re: Tucson show
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
51. Wildfire UV paints
    by Shawn Palmer <shawnp [at] northnet.net>
52. Re: Wildfire UV paints
    by "Weston Wilkerson" <weston_wilkerson [at] hotmail.com>
53. Re: Wildfire UV paints
    by Shawn Palmer <shawnp [at] northnet.net>
54. Re: Wildfire UV paints
    by "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
55. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
    by "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
56. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
57. Re: ETC smartpack dimmers
    by loftlight [at] aol.com
58. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
    by Steve Larson <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
59. Re: women and swords
    by Steve Larson <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
60. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
    by "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
61. Re: Wildfire UV paints
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
62. Re: Wildfire UV paints
    by "Weston Wilkerson" <weston_wilkerson [at] hotmail.com>
63. Re: women and swords
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
64. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
65. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
66. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
67. Job Opening
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
68. Re: Wildfire UV paints
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
69. Re: Wildfire UV paints
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
70. Re: Wildfire UV paints
    by Mike Brubaker <mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com>
71. Re: Wildfire UV paints
    by "Mike Rock" <rockm [at] new.rr.com>
72. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
73. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
    by "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
74. Re: Wildfire UV paints
    by "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
75. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
    by megironda [at] att.net (Gerry G.)
76. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
    by "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
77. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
    by megironda [at] att.net (Gerry G.)
78. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
79. Re: Suggestions for Rome?
    by Tony Miller <tonymille [at] gmail.com>

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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 02:10:24 -1000
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re:Big Compass
Message-id: <002401c54fd9$1713ac70$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p>
References: <list-22156314 [at] prxy.net>

<<In the shop here, we also have severalof the black divider/compass
combinations from Stanley (Model 41-017) that work well for circles up to
maybe 16".  Any hardware store that sells Stanley can probably order them
for you and they work pretty well.>>

Strange... neither Google, Stanley,or Ebay  turn up any relevant results for
"Stanley" +  "41-017", "compass", or "divider".  I'll check the hardware
store though.  How old are these?

Laters,

Paul

"I have no recollection of the last twenty-four hours," said Tom
lackadaisically.


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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Big Compass
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 08:20:35 -0400
Message-ID: <001701c54fda$85c963c0$6701a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-22157465 [at] prxy.net>

 
> Strange... neither Google, Stanley,or Ebay  turn up any 
> relevant results for "Stanley" +  "41-017",

If you take the dash out of the number, though, you get a whole lot of
guys named "Stanley" who live in Kentucky.



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Message-ID: <082401c54fda$deffd460$a174fea9 [at] Nigellaptop>
From: "Nigel Worsley" <nigle [at] dsl.pipex.com>
References: <list-22120884 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: 3-Phase-Singel Phase (was CD-80 flickering problem)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:23:10 +0100


FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> In a message dated 30/04/05 05:28:49 GMT Daylight Time,
> stagecraft [at] DesignRelief.com writes:
> 
>> The reason single-phase, 3-wire is called single-phase is that it is
>>  derived from one side of a delta transformer.  Instead of a delta-wye (or
>>  delta-star), the transformer is a delta-delta.  On the secondary delta,
>>  corner to corner is 240v (in most US domestic applications).  If you
> center
>>  tap one of the sides, you will have 120v from corner to center tap, 120v
>>  from the other corner to center tap.
> 
> I have always thought that US electrical instllations, were insanitary.Now, I
> know it. With us, for single-phase. the refernce point tis the neutral. The
> centre-point of a star. Each corner is 230V away, and the corner-to-corner
> numbers are 380V

No, 220V single phase gives 380V, for 230V it works out at about 398V, which is
rounded to 400V - no point in being precise when the supply tolerances mean that
it can actually be between 375V and 438V!

Nigel Worsley


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Message-ID: <427770BB.2000109 [at] fredonia.edu>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 08:38:19 -0400
From: "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu
Subject: Re: Big Compass
References: <list-22156314 [at] prxy.net> <list-22157465 [at] prxy.net>

Paul
I just happened to look closely at the one I bought at an antique store 
a couple of years ago and discovered that is was made by the Union Tool 
Co. of Orange, MA.  No idea as to date of manufacture.  About 10" 
overall and describes an 8.5" circle.
Steve

Paul Guncheon wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> <<In the shop here, we also have severalof the black divider/compass
> combinations from Stanley (Model 41-017) that work well for circles up to
> maybe 16".  Any hardware store that sells Stanley can probably order them
> for you and they work pretty well.>>
> 
> Strange... neither Google, Stanley,or Ebay  turn up any relevant results for
> "Stanley" +  "41-017", "compass", or "divider".  I'll check the hardware
> store though.  How old are these?
> 
> Laters,
> 
> Paul
> 
> "I have no recollection of the last twenty-four hours," said Tom
> lackadaisically.



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Message-ID: <002501c54fdf$f6abc240$6b01a8c0 [at] BCA1>
Reply-To: "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
From: "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
Subject: RE: Seating Risers
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 07:59:34 -0500

Tracy Fitch posted:  "I bought mine (3' x 6' ers) from Secoa last year and 
having used the others before, I wouldn't want to go back."

Are the ones you acquired the single membrane top or the stressed skin 
(honeycomb or foam) style?  Personally I tend to favor the stressed skin 
because they are much less "drummy" sounding when audience walks on them.

Did they provide aisle lights?

Thanks.

Bill



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Message-ID: <427776DD.2050601 [at] northnet.net>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 08:04:29 -0500
From: Shawn Palmer <shawnp [at] northnet.net>
Subject: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry

Hello all,

I seem to remember some technical difficulties in the staging of The 
Mousetrap.  Is this the show with the crossbow or something along those 
lines?

My searching has turned up a bunch of companies producing The Mousetrap, 
but no real and meaningful information.

I have a copy coming, but I need to have my opinion formed today 
(without reading the script- yay.)

If anyone has any horror stories or other thoughts involving this show 
I'd love to hear them.  I think this show has been discussed at length, 
so I am sorry to ask again.  Feel free to respond offlist if you want to 
spare the masses.  Even Google isn't turning up old stagecraft pages :(

At this point it seems my other option is Ten Little Indians.

Thanks,

Shawn Palmer
Neenah, WI
USA


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Message-ID: <20050503132010.1811.qmail [at] web20427.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 06:20:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: b d <tecdir [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: ETC smartpack dimmers
In-Reply-To: 6667

Hello All,
   Has anyone had any experience with the 1.2k
smartpack dimmers from ETC? What are your thoughts?
Why do you like (or dislike)them? I'm doing a small
installation (36 dimmers) and the price, as well as
the features, look really nice. Thanks in advance,

Brian Dambacher

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Subject: RE: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:20:08 -0400
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C7FF [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> I seem to remember some technical difficulties in the staging of The=20
> Mousetrap.  Is this the show with the crossbow or something=20
> along those=20
> lines?
>=20
> At this point it seems my other option is Ten Little Indians.

Can't help with Mousetrap, but if you're looking for options along this
line you might also want to check out "Something's Afoot" from Samuel
French...

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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 09:38:40 -0400
Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BE9CF71F.71E3%bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-22154327 [at] prxy.net>

>> Funny, my dad taught me this little ditty in my youth:
>> 
>> High above Cayuga's waters,
>> there's an awful smell,
>> some say it's Cayuga's waters,
>> others say........
>> 
>> well, I'd better stop there.  My dad was a die hard Syracuse graduate.
> 
> My dad (CCNY) taught me the same song.
> 
My father (Harvard) taught me that song long long ago as well. As a former
Ithaca resident, and now living in the Village of Cayuga on the other end of
the lake, I think of it from time to time.

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House




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Subject: RE: ETC smartpack dimmers
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:51:15 -0400
Message-ID: <7AE59BA9B8D15D4787EB1C7A2DB6DFBA1CC6A4 [at] jekyll-sbs.ollsi.local>
From: "Abby Downing" <aldowning [at] onlocationls.com>

Re- Smart Packs-
We have 2 Smart Packs in our rental/production inv. configured into some
distribution racks of ours.  Never had a problem with them to my
knowledge.  Love 'em.
-Abby
=20

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Message-ID: <427781D5.8060108 [at] theater.umass.edu>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 09:51:17 -0400
From: Michael Powers <mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu>
Subject: Tomato Soup and other flavorings (was Re: Copper tubing)

Nancy Moeur <nmoeur [at] mailbox.syr.edu> writes:

<<  ..........  (At least tomato soup is tastier than Dale's lemon-juice-and-salt 
combo!)  ...........  >>

Nancy, 

Not if his combo is on the rim of a margarita glass!!!! 'Though Lime juice might be better. ;-)

Michael 

Michael Powers, Technical Director
UMass Amherst
112 FAC West
Amherst, Ma. 01003

413-545-6821 Voice
413-577-0025 Fax 

mptecdir [at] aol.com <mailto:mptecdir [at] aol.com>



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Subject: RE: Eartec TD 900 pro wireless comm system?
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:56:17 -0400
Message-ID: <CA2E466B6CEC9B449481950C30F907E757AE92 [at] mvcc-newexch.mvcc.edu>
From: "Michael Diederich" <mdiederich [at] mvcc.edu>

I use one of these headsets patched into my system. The charge lasts,
but the quality isn't the best; it has a tendency to sound flat and
distant. I have had a problem with rental groups and their cheap
wireless interfering. (We didn't have the ability to change those
frequencies so they didn't interfere.) The range is good, and I can be
in all backstage areas and lobbies and still have a signal.=20

Frequency range: 902.6-904.55:925.6-927.55 MHz
There is a 40 channel combination changed through dip switches.

I have had no problems with the durability, but I am the only one who
uses it, so the students never get a chance to beat on it. My venue has
a ton of RF signal in the air. With wireless internet, remotes and mics,
you may also want someone else's experience as well.=20

If you want I can scan the user's manual and attach it to an email. Good
Luck.

Michael Diederich
Theater Technical Asst.
Mohawk Valley Community College

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Ares [mailto:jonares [at] hevanet.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 12:53 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Eartec TD 900 pro wireless comm system?

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Anyone using Eartec's TD 900 series of wireless comm systems?  I've been
to=20
their website, and there's no technical info, like: what
frequency/method is=20
the Tx and Rx?  What's the range?  Batteries?  Durability/reliability?

Anyone using these patched into their hardwired system?

TIA...

     -- Jon Ares
Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts
www.hevanet.com/acreative
www.wlhstheatre.org=20


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Message-ID: <4277862C.2040107 [at] theater.umass.edu>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:09:48 -0400
From: Michael Powers <mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu>
Subject: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)

Shawn Palmer <shawnp [at] northnet.net> writes:

<<  .....I also find it funny that a single broken mercury thermomenter s=
huts=20
down entire schools, .....  >>

Shawn,=20

My how times have changed and what we've learned.  I remember when I was =
a kid (late Jurassic) our handy-dandy magicians kit with instruction book=
 told us how to change a penny into a dime.  The instructions read, IIRC =
something like:  "Take an old thermometer with a silver colored line, not=
 the red ones, and break the tip off.  Pour out the mercury and place it =
in a small cup or saucer. Hide the cup just under your table but where yo=
u can secretly dip your thumb and first finger in to the mercury just bef=
ore you place the penny behind your back.  A good way to do this is to ho=
ld the penny up high with your right hand, moving it left and right while=
 your left hand sneaks under the table.  With the penny behind your back,=
 rub it with your mercury coated fingers.  The mercury will coat the copp=
er penny and when you reveal it, it will look like a dime if you hold it =
up, quickly show it around and then put it in your pocket as you go to yo=
ur next trick."

How did we survive to this day????

Michael
=20
Michael Powers, Technical Director
UMass Amherst
112 FAC West
Amherst, Ma. 01003

413-545-6821 Voice
413-577-0025 Fax=20

mptecdir [at] aol.com <mailto:mptecdir [at] aol.com>




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Message-Id: <p05210600be9d33601d32 [at] [132.236.252.58]>
In-Reply-To: <list-22153571 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-22149335 [at] prxy.net> <list-22150059 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-22153571 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:09:58 -0500
From: "richard j. archer" <rja10 [at] cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal

>
>
>Funny, my dad taught me this little ditty in my youth:
>
>High above Cayuga's waters,
>there's an awful smell,
>some say it's Cayuga's waters,
>others say........
>
>well, I'd better stop there.  My dad was a die hard Syracuse graduate.
>
>dave marks (from Keuka Lake)


Not much stagecraft here but.... being that I've taught high above 
Cayuga's waters since 1979 (and I don't mean with Steve L or the soon 
retired John Bracewell at Ithaca College) I can say that this little 
ditty goes to the tune of the Cornell Alma Mater  which in turn is 
set to the tune of "Annie Lisle", a song from the late 1800's.  U of 
Missouri-Columbia uses the same tune. There's the usual argument of 
who used it first, but Cornell's Alma Mater is more famous. The glee 
club here  will often sing both the approved and above version of the 
Alma Mater  Those of you more my age might remember a 50's-60's TV 
commercial using the same tune to get you to
  "buy your toys at an approved toy center,
   have a wonderland of fun,
   buy your toys at an approved toy center,
   like for instance take this one."
Oh the things that clutter one's mind.
For reference  you can google Cornell U songs and/or college fight 
song parodies

Dick A
TD, Cornell U



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Message-ID: <42778B55.7020202 [at] northnet.net>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 09:31:49 -0500
From: Shawn Palmer <shawnp [at] northnet.net>
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
References: <list-22158784 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-22158784 [at] prxy.net>

> <<  .....I also find it funny that a single broken mercury thermomenter 
> shuts down entire schools, .....  >>
> 
> Shawn,
> My how times have changed and what we've learned.  I remember when I was 
> a kid (late Jurassic) our handy-dandy magicians kit with instruction 
> book told us how to change a penny into a dime.  The instructions read, 
> IIRC something like:  "Take an old thermometer with a silver colored 
> line, not the red ones, and break the tip off.  Pour out the mercury and 
> place it in a small cup or saucer. Hide the cup just under your table 
> but where you can secretly dip your thumb and first finger in to the 
> mercury just before you place the penny behind your back.  A good way to 
> do this is to hold the penny up high with your right hand, moving it 
> left and right while your left hand sneaks under the table.  With the 
> penny behind your back, rub it with your mercury coated fingers.  The 
> mercury will coat the copper penny and when you reveal it, it will look 
> like a dime if you hold it up, quickly show it around and then put it in 
> your pocket as you go to your next trick."
> 
> How did we survive to this day????
> 
> Michael

And my wife ate copious amounts of lead paint chips as an infant :-)

Shawn


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Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 07:32:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: 3-Phase-Singel Phase (was CD-80 flickering problem)
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

>> I have always thought that US electrical instllations, were
>> insanitary.Now, I
>> know it. With us, for single-phase. the refernce point tis the neutral.
>> The
>> centre-point of a star. Each corner is 230V away, and the
>> corner-to-corner
>> numbers are 380V
>
> No, 220V single phase gives 380V, for 230V it works out at about 398V,
> which is
> rounded to 400V - no point in being precise when the supply tolerances
> mean that
> it can actually be between 375V and 438V!

Yep. The 400V is commonly used in heavy industry. There are even
fluorescent lights made for 400V feeds.

Bill


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Subject: RE: Suggestions for Rome
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:42:18 -0500
Message-ID: <95E1F758C14A0248B42D6FC9D67C7C320262EF56 [at] CCUMAIL14.usa.ccu.clearchannel.com>
From: "Ehrenberg, Steven" <StevenEhrenberg [at] clearchannel.com>

I heartily second all of the Rome info that has been posted.  It's a
great city for history, culture, food and wandering aimlessly.  On my
last visit to Rome, this past Feb with Steve Reich & Musicians, we
continued one of my favorite Rome traditions, as follows.  This works
best with a group on tour (Dance, Theater, Music, whatever).  During
everyone's Vatican visit (you can all be doing this separately, you do
not have to go together), each person in the group stops at the Vatican
gift shop and finds the tackiest souvenir for under 2,000 Lire (I guess
the past few times it was 2 Euros).  On your way out of Rome on the bus
to the airport, each treasure is unveiled and the group determines the
winner.  The prize?  Well - winner take all, what more could you want.
Try it sometime; if you don't have a group, just a visit to the Vatican
gift shop to peruse the tacky souvenirs is worth the trip.
Over the years my two favorite winners are  - the glow-in-the-dark,
stick on, plastic, Jesus statuette - suitable for dashboards; and the
Pen (with the slide-y thing when you tip the pen-scene in the barrel)
where the Pieta slides across St. Peters square.  I could not make this
stuff up=20
Steven =20

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Subject: RE: Mercury thermometers and waxing nostalgic
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:49:56 -0400
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C800 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> > <<  .....I also find it funny that a single broken mercury=20
> > thermomenter
> > shuts down entire schools, .....  >>
>=20
> And my wife ate copious amounts of lead paint chips as an infant :-)

Back longer ago than I usually care to remember, my grade school had one
of those "science rooms" that was naught more than a closet at the end
of the hall to store stuff.

In something like 7th or 8th grade, a couple of friends of mine and I,
having expressed an interest in some of the old equipment and things,
were asked to help clean it out.

One of the things we came across was a supply (a few small vials' worth)
of pure mercury.  We took it back to the classroom and started playing
with it, watching it roll around our desktops and onto the floor (where
it'd shatter into thousands of miniscule droplets that seemed to have a
mind of their own).  It was cool! <g>

In 8th grade, when my mother was beginning work on her PhD in Chemistry,
I built a cloud chamber for a science project.  It felt a little odd
carrying uranyl nitrate (a uranium compound) back and forth to school on
the bus, but it didn't stop me from showing it off.

And FWIW, I used to have a habit of checking that the electricity in
whatever house we were living in at the time worked the same from
location to location by inserting bobby pins into the sockets.  Ah,
memories...

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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 11:04:15 -0400
From: John Bracewell <jbrace [at] lightlink.com>
Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal
In-reply-to: <list-22158398 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <5.2.0.9.0.20050503110302.024456a8 [at] pop.lightlink.com>
References: <list-22154327 [at] prxy.net>


> >> High above Cayuga's waters,
> >> there's an awful smell,
> >> some say it's Cayuga's waters,
> >> others say........

>My father (Harvard) taught me that song long long ago as well. As a former
>Ithaca resident, and now living in the Village of Cayuga on the other end of
>the lake, I think of it from time to time.

Seems to be fairly ubiquitous.  My wife went to Michigan, and she taught 
that one to me long before we moved to Ithaca.

-- JLB 


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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 11:07:03 -0400
From: John Bracewell <jbrace [at] lightlink.com>
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
In-reply-to: <list-22158784 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <5.2.0.9.0.20050503110532.024305f0 [at] pop.lightlink.com>


><<  .....I also find it funny that a single broken mercury thermomenter 
>shuts down entire schools, .....  >>
>
>Shawn,
>My how times have changed and what we've learned.  I remember when I was a 
>kid (late Jurassic) our handy-dandy magicians kit with instruction book 
>told us how to change a penny into a dime.  The instructions read, IIRC 
>something like:  "Take an old thermometer with a silver colored line, not 
>the red ones, and break the tip off.  Pour out the mercury and place it in 
>a small cup or saucer.

Yep.  When I was a kid, we used to love it when themometers would break, 
because we thought it was so neat the way the mercury would form little 
balls that would roll around on your palm.

-- JLB


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Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:37:28 -0500
From: Fierce Fish <fierceness [at] tragedy.biomass.to>
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
Message-ID: <20050503153728.GM22596 [at] tragedy.biomass.to>
References: <list-22158784 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-22158784 [at] prxy.net>

On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 10:09:48AM -0400, Michael Powers wrote:
> Shawn Palmer <shawnp [at] northnet.net> writes:
> <<  .....I also find it funny that a single broken mercury thermomenter 
> shuts down entire schools, .....  >>
> My how times have changed and what we've learned.  I remember when I was a 
> kid (late Jurassic) our handy-dandy magicians kit with instruction book 
[magic trick snipped]

That's a neat trick :)  I think, ultimately, the problem is two-fold.  One - 
we know a lot more about dangers and risks - this, in itself, is not a 
problem.  The second part is the essential one - the general public is 
absolutely awful at risk-assessment and thus thinks of things in absolutes.
Mercury exposure can increase the risks of health problems, therefore 
mercury in any quantities is deadly - that's the equation that the general
public thinks in.  And since there is that perception, people must act on it
or be considered 'cold and calculating' or 'unwilling to seriously deal with
public safety'.

Life's dangerous.  In fact, life's fatal.  Eliminating all risk is impossible
and the expectation that we can is what leads to lawsuit culture and to
the elimination of things that truly aren't significant risks and which
provide benefits - playground equipment, fireworks, you name it, they are
all in danger.

Argh. Hotbutton topic :)  Slightly off-topic, but one certainly related
to theatre management.  Fortunately, building inspectors and fire marshals
tend to be better at risks then the general populace, even if they are
professionally paranoid.

-cdr


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Message-ID: <42779863.5070905 [at] fredonia.edu>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 11:27:31 -0400
From: "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
References: <list-22158784 [at] prxy.net> <list-22159086 [at] prxy.net>

I might have too, but I forget now. ;)
Steve Rees


> And my wife ate copious amounts of lead paint chips as an infant :-)
> 
> Shawn



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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 11:28:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers and waxing nostalgic
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BE9D10D5.71F6%bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-22159273 [at] prxy.net>

> And FWIW, I used to have a habit of checking that the electricity in
> whatever house we were living in at the time worked the same from
> location to location by inserting bobby pins into the sockets.  Ah,
> memories...

    My mother tells of how when I was little (Kindergarten and before),
Whilst other kids had teddy bears they clung to - not I. I had a favourite
table lamp that I'd drag around the house and plug in wherever I went.

    Sort of a foreshadowing of the direction my life would go. I was born to
work with electricity and lighting! I was a strange little kid - Now I'm a
strange old kid.  

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House



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Message-Id: <bafca22b185f437732322555cb9efdc9 [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:31:57 -0400

> And my wife ate copious amounts of lead paint chips as an infant :-)
>
Funny, our director just finished telling me a story 2 min. ago about a 
paint store in her town that would dip your Easter Eggs in vats of 
paint when she grew up in Mt. Carmel PA.  She (and the rest of the 
town) found out later that it was of course lead paint.


Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 11:39:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BE9D1383.71FA%bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-22159706 [at] prxy.net>

> The second part is the essential one - the general public is
> absolutely awful at risk-assessment and thus thinks of things in absolutes.
> Mercury exposure can increase the risks of health problems, therefore
> mercury in any quantities is deadly - that's the equation that the general
> public thinks in.

    Excellent post - I agree with all that you said. As to thinking in
absolutes, I would add that this seems to be even more of a problem these
past few years, when we are told that people and countries are either "good"
or "EVIL". They are either "With" us or "against" us. No middle ground, or
shades of grey.

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House



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Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:49:37 -0500
From: Kevin Holly <kholly [at] mac.com>
Subject: Re: Big Compass

>You can also look for what i believe is called a beam compass. I got one
>from McMaster Carr a few years back. it's basically a tape measure with a
>spike in the middle and small lead holder on the end. I think it does up to
>about 4' radius and as small as 4" or so. it kinda picks up where a
>conventional compass leaves off.


McMaster Carr #2127A12
Tape Rule Marking Compass
3-1/2"-72" radius range
$29.59
-- 
Kevin Holly
Technical Theatre Coordinator
Libertyville High School

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Message-Id: <004ee42178250be4deb0c56972a292d3 [at] dejazzd.com>
From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:47:21 -0400

> found out later that it was of course lead paint.

I forgot to mention when I was in high school I used to break pegboard 
tiles over my head for the fun of it.  Later finding out they had a 
high asbestos content.


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Message-ID: <20050503160942.7755.qmail [at] web50704.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:09:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Sorensen <chaoscon666 [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: re: Tucson show...
In-Reply-To: <list-22156314 [at] prxy.net>

>From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
>Subject: Tucson show

>My wife and I have been invited to work on pyro show
in >Tucson, Az in July.  

>Anything interesting to see, stagecraft or otherwise
>(assuming we have some spare time, we might consider
>getting there early)?

>----------
>Jerry Durand
>Durand Interstellar, Inc.

If you like aircraft, there's the Pima Air Museum and
the Aircraft Graveyard on the south side of town. 
Also Sajuaro National Park for hiking (in the early
morning).  The Titan Missile Museum is also south of
town (very cool!).  Biosphere 2 is 20 minutes North.

Hope this helps...




Michael Sorensen

"It's all just a scam, isn't it?  
You get those actors to put on a 
show, just so you can have a good 
reason to play with your toys." 
--Christopher Stasheff, "A Slight Detour"

Proton Lighting and Video
"We positively charge up your show!"
Phone: 520-232-3540  
Email: chaoscon666 [at] yahoo.com

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Message-ID: <BAY107-F1975D3272AB122559FCE9CDE180 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Charles J Korecki" <ckorecki [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: 1940's Night Club Pix
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:28:04 -0400

Hello.  The director of our next musical review wants the set to evoke 
1940's Night Club vibe.  I am trying to find pictures to give me some 
inspiration.  I have found some general material in a few architecture 
books, but nothing really inspiring.  Can anyone provide any leads for 
books, pictures, or other sources of material that might help inspire me on 
this project?  Thanks!

Charles J Korecki
Currently praying the passage of a school levy in Ohio



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Message-ID: <BAY107-F21BCA0817AE3FDDD213225DE180 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-22137480 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Charles J Korecki" <ckorecki [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Need Source For Bosum's Whistle
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:50:47 -0400

I bought one years ago when I was vacationing in florida.  I think I may 
still have it around.  If you need to borrow it, let me know and I can ship 
it to you.  I"m in Ohio.


Charles J Korecki


>   A friend is doing a production and needs one.  They look kind of
>pricey on the web.  Any ideas where to borrow one for a short
>duration and perhaps program credit?
>
>Thanks,
>   Steve



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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <209.40ba08.2fa90871 [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:01:37 EDT
Subject: Re: Tomato for Copper

In a message dated 03/05/05 05:44:45 GMT Daylight Time, simon [at] ef-ae.com 
writes:

> I seem to remember coca cola also cleans copper very well.

It certainly does, as do most fizzy drinks with a high phosphoric acid 
content. Then they start to eat it. If you have ever seen a piece of electronic 
equipment which has had a can of coke added, you will know what I mean. Some fool 
operator once added a can of coke to one of our old lighting consoles. Only 
the presence of mind if the sound guy saved it from being a write off.

Fortunately, it was at the interval. he switched off, removed it, dismantled 
it, and then dunked it in a bucket of water. Fortunately for the show, we had 
a spare console and a disc of the cues. After treatment with a hair dryer, it 
survived, although, even in that short time, one or two tracks had gone.

It does make you wonder what they do to your innards. Me, I stick to coffee, 
beer, wine, and whisky. I know where I am, here.


Frank Wood

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050503102327.016fa600 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:23:27
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: RE: Storage in a Tiny Theatre

>Know my wife, do you?

I wasn't there, I didn't do it, that was my day off, I don't care what
those people say, all those people are liars anyways...
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <100.12c73dd7.2fa90ae7 [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:12:07 EDT
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BFhabla=20espanol=3F?=

capable, tour seasoned TD's out there who are fluent in spanish, contact me 
off list.

I might be interested in having someone bi lingual help advance a tour via 
phone /  email etc,, with going on the tour optional t/b/a. Lots still to be 
determined.

very best,

Keith Arsenault

IAEG -  International Arts & Entertainment Group 
Tampa, Florida

iaeg [at] aol.com

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <77.44c54f1c.2fa90b67 [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:14:15 EDT
Subject: Re: 3-Phase-Singel Phase (was CD-80 flickering problem)

In a message dated 03/05/05 13:25:02 GMT Daylight Time, nigle [at] dsl.pipex.com 
writes:

> No, 220V single phase gives 380V, for 230V it works out at about 398V, 
which 
> is
>  rounded to 400V - no point in being precise when the supply tolerances 
mean 
> that
>  it can actually be between 375V and 438V!

Whatever. The numbers keep on changing. When I was young, it was 250/440V. 
The multiplier is the square root of 3, which is 1.732.


Frank Wood

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050503103025.016fa600 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:30:25
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Tucson show

>I haven't been 
>in Tucson in decades, and never in July.  Aside from drinking lots of water 
>and taking hats and long sleeve shirts, any other suggestions?

Sunscreen.  Mostly anything over thirty SPF tends to be more marketing than
anything else.  Golf clubs.  You'd be amazed at how much golf you can play
in 104 degree weather.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <p06100527be9d6279ffbe [at] [18.22.0.76]>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:16:50 -0400
From: Mike Katz <mkatz [at] MIT.EDU>
Subject: Job Opening

Good morning all,
We have a job opening for the assistant manager of evening operations 
for the campus activities complex here at MIT.  It is not my job nor 
does it report to me! The theaters on campus are owned by CAC and the 
position will focus on the technical operations of all the 
performance spaces.

MIT Division of Student Life, Campus Activities Complex
JOB DESCRIPTION

TITLE: Assistant Manager of Evening Operations

BASIC FUNCTION & RESPONSIBILITIES:
The Assistant Manager, Campus Activities is responsible for the day 
to day operation of the Kresge Auditorium as well as assisting the 
management team in overseeing event and performance spaces within the 
Campus Activities Complex. Will serve as the assistant manager with 
focus on technical operations. Will oversee E33, the student group 
specializing in theatrical lighting on campus. Will perform 
managerial, supervisory, and technical duties for scheduled areas and 
performance events held in the facilities of the Campus Activities 
Complex, with an emphasis on academic program support. Will provide 
leadership and supervision for building operations, safety, emergency 
response, event planning, logistic support and varied operational 
functions of the Campus Activities Complex. Will be closely involved 
with the coordination of rehearsals, concerts and theatrical 
productions, working closely with the staff of the department of 
Music and Theatre Arts, and advising and supervising student 
performance groups.  Will be responsible for managing and training 
assigned service (union) and student staff.  This position is also 
responsible for implementing the MIT Environmental, Health, and 
Safety (EHS) Management System in areas under their supervision. 
Will ensure that facilities and staff under their supervision meet or 
exceed all applicable EHS requirements.

Will provide coverage for weekends, holidays and off hours as needed. 
Standard hours are Tuesday through Saturday 4pm to 12am (midnight)

The url to get to the full job description and application info is:  
http://sh.webhire.com/servlet/av/jd?ai=631&ji=1545451&sn=I

I can answer questions about the position but I am not directly 
connected with it other than being a user of the Theater. i am 
however very interested in a good person taking the position so that 
the theater is in good condition when I do get in.
Mike

-- 

Mike Katz
Technical Director
MIT Theater Arts
Rinaldi Tile Building
77 Mass Ave E33-101
Cambridge MA 02139
617.253.0824
mkatz [at] mit.edu
		"Lunacy Abounds"

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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:19:51 -0400
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Storage in a Tiny Theatre
Message-id: <4277B2B7.70105DD7 [at] ithaca.edu>
Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts
References: <list-22161156 [at] prxy.net>


> >Know my wife, do you?
> 
> I wasn't there, I didn't do it, that was my day off, I don't care what
> those people say, all those people are liars anyways...

Remember, guns don't kill people...

Husbands who come home early do.

-- 
Stephen C. Litterst
Technical Supervisor
Ithaca College
Dept. of Theatre Arts
607/274-3947
slitterst [at] ithaca.edu

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <12e.5d35de98.2fa90cc7 [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:20:07 EDT
Subject: Re: Big Compass

In a message dated 03/05/05 13:39:07 GMT Daylight Time, Rees [at] fredonia.edu 
writes:

> I just happened to look closely at the one I bought at an antique store 
>  a couple of years ago and discovered that is was made by the Union Tool 
>  Co. of Orange, MA.  No idea as to date of manufacture.  About 10" 
>  overall and describes an 8.5" circle.

Back when I was a schoolmaster, forty odd years ago, it was the custom to 
wear an academic gown while teaching. It kept the chalk dust off your jacket! 
Mine has, for some reason, 18" ribbons hanging from the lapels. These were very 
handy for drawing circles on the blackboard.


Frank Wood

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050503103459.016fa600 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:34:59
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Tucson show

>    take lots of sunscreen, drink electrolyte drinks, and do you need any
>helpers?  *grins*

Get in line, brother, if anyone's gonna volunteer to set up explosives in
the searing hot sun in MY town, its gonna be me...

So, Jerry, willya teach me to blow stuff up good in exchange for slave
labor?
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050503103851.016fa600 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:38:51
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for Rome?

>One of them was often an attractive young woman, 
>sword and all!
>OK, I'm old fashioned. But, somehow, women and swords don't seem to come 
>together.

You've got to be kidding me, Frank!   You should see some of the women out
here that hang out with swords and all the other regalia.  They have a
tendancy to know how to use them, as well.  As far as I'm concerned, to see
anything hotter, I'd have to buy two drinks and put a coupla bucks in a
G-string ever so often.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:22:02 -0400
Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
From: Steve Larson <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
Message-ID: <BE9D2B7A.5456%tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-22160603 [at] prxy.net>

How about all those great 40's movies?

Steve

> From: "Charles J Korecki" <ckorecki [at] hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:28:04 -0400
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Subject: 1940's Night Club Pix
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Hello.  The director of our next musical review wants the set to evoke
> 1940's Night Club vibe.  I am trying to find pictures to give me some
> inspiration.  I have found some general material in a few architecture
> books, but nothing really inspiring.  Can anyone provide any leads for
> books, pictures, or other sources of material that might help inspire me on
> this project?  Thanks!
> 
> Charles J Korecki
> Currently praying the passage of a school levy in Ohio
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <45.277f9025.2fa910c7 [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:37:11 EDT
Subject: Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry

In a message dated 03/05/05 14:09:57 GMT Daylight Time, shawnp [at] northnet.net 
writes:

> At this point it seems my other option is Ten Little Indians.

PC strikes again. I remember the original title, and indeed, the song from 
which it was derived. "Ten Little N****r Boys".

Why has PC deprived us of some of our heritage? "To work like a N****r was a 
compliment, meaning a very hard worker.

I appreciate the bad histories of that community in the Southern states of 
the US, where it was a pejorative term. Those days are, I hope, gone. Let the 
Black community show a generousness of spirit, and restore the word to our 
language.

But then, it is not, mostly, them. It is the bleeding heart White Liberals 
who impose PC on us, trying to atone for the sins of their ancestors. Let us 
move on.


Frank Wood

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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:39:19 -0400
From: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Subject: Re: old gasoline disposal/ALma Mater... 
Message-ID: <47691B0B.2B6E42D0.007B9F2A [at] aol.com>

And for those of you who know the movie Dirty Dancing, it's also the Kellerman's song at the end. 

Kristi

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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:42:03 -0400
Message-ID: <000a01c55007$6ddb02f0$6701a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-22161542 [at] prxy.net>


 
> I appreciate the bad histories of that community in the 
> Southern states of 
> the US, where it was a pejorative term. 

Not just in the southern states (although some in the north would like
to believe it was); the major difference was that in the south, it was
codified into law, but that doesn't mean that the north was any less
prejudiced or segregated.

>Those days are, I 
> hope, gone.

They aren't, entirely.  When I lived in Westchester County (right
outside NYC) a few years ago, I heard the word often.



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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:45:33 -0400
From: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
Message-ID: <1E756CAA.6D95DD83.007B9F2A [at] aol.com>

Also - the total exposure we have to various potentially harmful chemicals is far greater now.

My grandmother would hang the rugs on the line and beat them with a switch. Now she calles the "chem dry" cleaners and they leave God-only-knows what on her carpet to "clean" it. 

Over time, exposure can build up in our fatty tissues and cause harm. If you rolled mercury in your hand once (I did too!) that's fine. Add that to the mercury in the water, and in your fish and what was vaproized in chem class and the lead you inhaled from the solder and the old car exhaust and... and.. and... and you have a formula for disaster.

One reason I tell my clients to use the SMALLEST amount needed of any (skinc are/cosmetic) product and to go to bed with a clean face EVERY night.

When you have great skin, you don't need to paint it every day.

Kristi

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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1d8.3c344fa1.2fa913f0 [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:50:40 EDT
Subject: Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry


In a message dated 5/3/05 1:38:17 PM, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com writes:

<< Why has PC deprived us of some of our heritage? "To work like a N****r was 
a 
compliment, meaning a very hard worker. >>

They worked that hard perhaps because there was a MASTER over their shoulder 
with a whip ?  

That would be enough in itself to make it an inappropriate phrase I would 
think.

( please do not let anyone infer from the above comment that I think that 
they would ONLY work hard if driven in that manner , , damn you have to be so 
careful how you phrase things ) 

very best,

Keith Arsenault

IAEG -  International Arts & Entertainment Group 
Tampa, Florida

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1f0.3b3489a9.2fa9146d [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:52:45 EDT
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)

In a message dated 03/05/05 15:10:25 GMT Daylight Time, 
mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu writes:

> <<  .....I also find it funny that a single broken mercury thermomenter 
shuts 
> 
>  down entire schools, .....  >>

Not funny, tragic. The slightest possible safety hazard, and the curtain 
comes down. That just is not the real world. I may be wrong here, but mercury is 
only a health hazard when ingested in an assimilable form. 
>  
>  My how times have changed and what we've learned. They have, and we 
haven't. I remember the work surfaces in thew school where I once taught. There was 
a groove round them, with a drain in one corner. This was so that you could 
catch any spilt mercury, and recover it.
>  
>  How did we survive to this day????


Frank Wood

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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 08:01:56 -1000
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Copper tubing
Message-id: <00ea01c5500a$32bfc1d0$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p>
References: <list-22156314 [at] prxy.net>


>>A polishing wheel works great, but I have 150 + fittings so I was hoping
for a chemical process with which someone has had success.<

To clarify... I hope.

<I think Frank is correct.  If the copper has a coarse surface, one must
remove the oxide and then begin to smooth out the metal.<<

If you reversed the first two sentences of your reply, the first sentence
would provide the necessary caveat for the second.

As I first asked about copper fittings, one should know they are not rough
and do not need to attacked with sandpaper, emery cloth, or any other
smoothing medium stronger than polishing rouge... maybe tripoli.  I consider
the act of polishing to be making progressively smaller scratches in a
material, thereby reducing the scattering of the materials reflection of
light.  Tarnish is more a discoloration of a chemical nature than roughness.
Not unlike the effect of mayonnaise on sterling silver (it turn's it black).

Scratching the tarnish off with relatively coarse grit emery paper makes
more work, not less, and as I reported in my last post, is absolutely not
the fastest technique.

Laters,

Paul

"I better put that piece of dirt back in my eye" Tom said remotely.


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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050503110244.0294dd48 [at] localhost>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 11:05:37 -0700
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Tucson show
In-Reply-To: <list-22161255 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-22161255 [at] prxy.net>

At 03:30 AM 5/3/2005, you wrote:
>Golf clubs.  You'd be amazed at how much golf you can play
>in 104 degree weather.

Golf Club?  Bit heavy, but with a good sized whistle rocket engine I could 
probably get decent altitude out of one.  But, we only do that sort of 
stuff at Lake Havasu City, not public shows.  :)


----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
Los Gatos, California, USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
USA toll free:  1 866 356-3886
web:  www.interstellar.com



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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050503110940.0294dfd8 [at] localhost>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 11:10:12 -0700
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Tucson show
In-Reply-To: <list-22161333 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-22161333 [at] prxy.net>

At 03:34 AM 5/3/2005, you wrote:
>Get in line, brother, if anyone's gonna volunteer to set up explosives in
>the searing hot sun in MY town, its gonna be me...
>
>So, Jerry, willya teach me to blow stuff up good in exchange for slave
>labor?

Sure.  I'll send you the contact info in a private e-mail.



----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
Los Gatos, California, USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
USA toll free:  1 866 356-3886
web:  www.interstellar.com



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Message-ID: <4277C532.6070300 [at] northnet.net>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:38:42 -0500
From: Shawn Palmer <shawnp [at] northnet.net>
Subject: Wildfire UV paints

Hello all,

The Wildfire website says "For maximum brilliance under blacklight 
always apply Wildfire paint over a white non-fluorescent background."

Anyone done it over black?  Of course I realize it won't work nearly as 
well.  I tried some tests today, but my Wildfire is so old it doesn't 
fluoresce.  Ideally I am looking for some invisible colors, over black, 
in a checkerboard pattern.

Am also willing to try Tide.

I have three days to perfect my technique :-)   I don't really have time 
to order a smaple kit, try it, then order more.

Thanks,

Shawn Palmer
Neenah, WI
USA


------------------------------

Message-ID: <BAY24-F27E63A564C500E0075FECF8180 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-22162454 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Weston Wilkerson" <weston_wilkerson [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Wildfire UV paints
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:07:34 -0400

I have put detergent on top of black and raw steel before.  You couldn't 
tell the difference from a
few feet away.  It worked like a champ.  I had no comparison to what it 
would have looked like on
an intially white surface, but the effect was quite sufficient and dirt 
cheap.

>Anyone done it over black?  Of course I realize it won't work nearly as 
>well.  I tried some tests today, but my Wildfire is so old it doesn't 
>fluoresce.  Ideally I am looking for some invisible colors, over black, in 
>a checkerboard pattern.
>
>Am also willing to try Tide.
>
>Shawn Palmer
>Neenah, WI
>USA
>

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Weston Wilkerson
University of Tennessee Theater Lighting Design
e: Weston_Wilkerson [at] hotmail.com
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>



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Message-ID: <4277CC33.5000206 [at] northnet.net>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 14:08:35 -0500
From: Shawn Palmer <shawnp [at] northnet.net>
Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints
References: <list-22162738 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-22162738 [at] prxy.net>


> I have put detergent on top of black and raw steel before.  You couldn't 
> tell the difference from a
> few feet away.  It worked like a champ.  I had no comparison to what it 
> would have looked like on
> an intially white surface, but the effect was quite sufficient and dirt 
> cheap.
> 

Erm... could you elucidate?  Powder or liquid?  Applied how?

Thanks VERY much.

Shawn


------------------------------

Message-ID: <00b601c55016$7e16c050$8b504898 [at] GLOBAL.SCJ.LOC>
From: "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
References: <list-22162454 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:29:58 -0500

I have also use RIT laundry bluing,  not sure how it will work on steel but
it is cheap and easy to find at the local grocery store.

randy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shawn Palmer" <shawnp [at] northnet.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:38 PM
Subject: Wildfire UV paints


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Hello all,
>
> The Wildfire website says "For maximum brilliance under blacklight
> always apply Wildfire paint over a white non-fluorescent background."
>
> Anyone done it over black?  Of course I realize it won't work nearly as
> well.  I tried some tests today, but my Wildfire is so old it doesn't
> fluoresce.  Ideally I am looking for some invisible colors, over black,
> in a checkerboard pattern.
>
> Am also willing to try Tide.
>
> I have three days to perfect my technique :-)   I don't really have time
> to order a smaple kit, try it, then order more.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shawn Palmer
> Neenah, WI
> USA
>


------------------------------

Message-ID: <00bc01c55016$c0a7eb60$8b504898 [at] GLOBAL.SCJ.LOC>
From: "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
References: <list-22161392 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:31:49 -0500

Rent Casablanca .  Rick's would be a nice example.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Larson" <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> How about all those great 40's movies?
>
> Steve
>
> > From: "Charles J Korecki" <ckorecki [at] hotmail.com>
> > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> > Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:28:04 -0400
> > To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theeatrical.net>
> > Subject: 1940's Night Club Pix
> >
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Hello.  The director of our next musical review wants the set to evoke
> > 1940's Night Club vibe.  I am trying to find pictures to give me some
> > inspiration.  I have found some general material in a few architecture
> > books, but nothing really inspiring.  Can anyone provide any leads for
> > books, pictures, or other sources of material that might help inspire me
on
> > this project?  Thanks!
> >
> > Charles J Korecki
> > Currently praying the passage of a school levy in Ohio
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <195.3e824441.2fa92ebf [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 15:45:03 EDT
Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix


In a message dated 5/3/05 3:32:33 PM, rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com writes:

<< Rent Casablanca .  Rick's would be a nice example.

 >>


Rent  THE COTTON CLUB,   CABARET 


very best,

Keith Arsenault

IAEG -  International Arts & Entertainment Group 
Tampa, Florida

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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:00:34 -0400
Message-Id: <8C71E31E706645C-CF4-30E51 [at] FWM-R33.sysops.aol.com>
From: loftlight [at] aol.com
References: <list-22158558 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-22158558 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: ETC smartpack dimmers

I just recently got a Smartpack for an installation in Brooklyn.  They 
lightweight, and easy to program.  I tied in using camlok tails and 
bugging them to bare end that would fit into the Smartpack.   It's been 
workiing great.

HTH

AAron Meadow
Lighting Designer
P/Fx 212-995-1120
Cell 917-656-1639
LoftLight [at] aol.com
www.meadowlight.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Abby Downing <aldowning [at] onlocationls.com>
To: Stagecraft <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:51:15 -0400
Subject: Re: ETC smartpack dimmers

   For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Re- Smart Packs-
We have 2 Smart Packs in our rental/production inv. configured into some
distribution racks of ours.  Never had a problem with them to my
knowledge.  Love 'em.
-Abby


   

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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:32:16 -0400
Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
From: Steve Larson <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
Message-ID: <BE9D5810.546E%tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-22163048 [at] prxy.net>

Casablanca and Cabaret are not USA.  Cotton
Club and some of the Cary Grant, Hepburn,
Tracy, Stewart movies often went to clubs.

Steve

> From: "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:31:49 -0500
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Rent Casablanca .  Rick's would be a nice example.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Larson" <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
> 
> 
>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> How about all those great 40's movies?
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>>> From: "Charles J Korecki" <ckorecki [at] hotmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>>> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:28:04 -0400
>>> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theeatrical.net>
>>> Subject: 1940's Night Club Pix
>>> 
>>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Hello.  The director of our next musical review wants the set to evoke
>>> 1940's Night Club vibe.  I am trying to find pictures to give me some
>>> inspiration.  I have found some general material in a few architecture
>>> books, but nothing really inspiring.  Can anyone provide any leads for
>>> books, pictures, or other sources of material that might help inspire me
> on
>>> this project?  Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Charles J Korecki
>>> Currently praying the passage of a school levy in Ohio
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 


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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:34:35 -0400
Subject: Re: women and swords
From: Steve Larson <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
Message-ID: <BE9D589B.546F%tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-22161390 [at] prxy.net>

Hey Frank, want to take on a female Israeli
commando?

sjl



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Message-ID: <4277F1A7.7050701 [at] fredonia.edu>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:48:23 -0400
From: "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu
Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
References: <list-22163870 [at] prxy.net>

Cabaret is also '30s.
Steve Rees

Steve Larson wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Casablanca and Cabaret are not USA.  Cotton
> Club and some of the Cary Grant, Hepburn,
> Tracy, Stewart movies often went to clubs.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
>


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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1f0.3b388145.2fa94e46 [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:59:34 EDT
Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints

In a message dated 03/05/05 19:48:16 GMT Daylight Time, shawnp [at] northnet.net 
writes:

> The Wildfire website says "For maximum brilliance under blacklight 
>  always apply Wildfire paint over a white non-fluorescent background."
>  
>  Anyone done it over black?  Of course I realize it won't work nearly as 
>  well.  I tried some tests today, but my Wildfire is so old it doesn't 
>  fluoresce.  Ideally I am looking for some invisible colors, over black, 
>  in a checkerboard pattern.

Personally, I think Wildfire are wrong. I have done UV effects many times, 
and always over black. When you use fluorescent paint, the light is emitted by 
the paint itself. It's seldon very bright, and the darker everything else is, 
the better.



Frank Wood

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Message-ID: <BAY24-F1915BD6998E0E377FC6B6EF8180 [at] phx.gbl>
In-Reply-To: <list-22162862 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Weston Wilkerson" <weston_wilkerson [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:03:55 -0400

We made a elmer'e glue-like paste and brushed it on.  However, the RIT idea 
sounds even better.
A post a few days ago by Allison Koster pointed out that the blueing agent 
is what responds to the
UV light.  Both are very cheap to try.  I am curious what would happen if 
the RIT were put in a
oil vs. water based sealer and painted on...

>>I have put detergent on top of black and raw steel before.  You couldn't 
>>tell the difference from a
>>few feet away.  It worked like a champ.  I had no comparison to what it 
>>would have looked like on
>>an intially white surface, but the effect was quite sufficient and dirt 
>>cheap.
>>
>
>Erm... could you elucidate?  Powder or liquid?  Applied how?
>
>Thanks VERY much.
>
>Shawn
>


<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Weston Wilkerson
University of Tennessee Theater Lighting Design
e: Weston_Wilkerson [at] hotmail.com

I never ask a man where he’s from. After all, if he’s from Texas he’ll
probably tell me, and if he’s not I don’t want to embarrass him.
     - Don Meredith
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>



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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <148.43c92aee.2fa950e5 [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 18:10:45 EDT
Subject: Re: women and swords

In a message dated 03/05/05 21:37:52 GMT Daylight Time, 
tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com writes:

> Hey Frank, want to take on a female Israeli
>  commando?

With a sword, I might. I mean a three-foot long sword. My last fencing master 
was over eighty!

But realistically, no. At 66, I am not as quick and flexible as I once was.



Frank Wood

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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050503160048.029e20c0 [at] localhost>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:03:34 -0700
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
In-Reply-To: <list-22158784 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-22158784 [at] prxy.net>

At 07:09 AM 5/3/2005, you wrote:
>My how times have changed and what we've learned.

[snip]

>How did we survive to this day????

I still have a bottle of mercury left from grade school days, my father had 
gotten it so the science class could make a barometer.  I remember the 
teacher spilled a bunch, but nobody cared.

I also remember pictures of guys floating in a tank of it at a mine.

Anyone need a bottle of mercury? It's several pounds worth (I don't 
remember how much but could check).



----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
Los Gatos, California, USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
USA toll free:  1 866 356-3886
web:  www.interstellar.com



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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1f7.90bbec0.2fa96577 [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:38:31 EDT
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)

In a message dated 04/05/05 00:04:24 GMT Daylight Time, 
jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes:

> 
>  I still have a bottle of mercury left from grade school days, my father 
had 
>  gotten it so the science class could make a barometer.  I remember the 
>  teacher spilled a bunch, but nobody cared.

i have one somewhere around, too. It always amuses me when someone tries to 
pick one up. Since it has a density of 13.6, this is sometimes a proble, or at 
least a surprise.



Frank Wood

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Message-ID: <42782343.56056339 [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:20:03 -0400
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Organization: The  fuzz in the back of the fridge. 
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
References: <list-22159475 [at] prxy.net>



John Bracewell wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> ><<  .....I also find it funny that a single broken mercury thermomenter
> >shuts down entire schools, .....  >>
> >
> >Shawn,
> >My how times have changed and what we've learned.  I remember when I was a
> >kid (late Jurassic) our handy-dandy magicians kit with instruction book
> >told us how to change a penny into a dime.  The instructions read, IIRC
> >something like:  "Take an old thermometer with a silver colored line, not
> >the red ones, and break the tip off.  Pour out the mercury and place it in
> >a small cup or saucer.
>
> Yep.  When I was a kid, we used to love it when themometers would break,
> because we thought it was so neat the way the mercury would form little
> balls that would roll around on your palm.
>
> -- JLB

    Yup.  When I was in the US navy, working in the hospital we had mercury
thermometers break with a bit of regularity.  No biggie, every ward had the
little box that had this grey powdery stuff that you used to soak up the
mercury,
and then you swept it up with the broken thermometer into the jar, tightened
on the cap and sent it off for the mercury to be recycled.
    Then I transferred to a ship, and one day one of the sailors chewed on a
thermometer breaking it in his mouth.  Had him spit the remains into an
emesis basin, checked his mouth for cuts, and went on with taking care of him.
    After sick call, I look through our cabinets in sickbay for the little box
with
the mercury spill kit. We don't have one.  Okay, no biggie, I thinks to myself,

and call down to our ships hazardous materials guy to see if he has one.  Not
more than three minutes later the damage control officer is knocking urgently
at the door and ordering us to evacuate the space.  He then shuts down all
the heat and ventilation in the area and calls over to the destroyer tender for

an emergency response team.
    Four guys in full body rubber suits, SCBA, with bags full of gear arrive
a little while later.  They insist everyone evacuate that area of the ship and
the go in and pick up the broken thermometer and the little blobs of mercury.
They take air sample and surface swabs and tell us not to enter the area
until they finish testing the samples.
    The next morning they let us know that yes, it really was mercury, and
that the area was safe to enter.   Sheesh, what a waste of time and effort.

    --Dale



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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:38:27 -0400
Subject: Job Opening
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BE9D9FD3.4097%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-22071505 [at] prxy.net>

Looking for LD/TD/ with scenic abilities

To work with Non-Profit arts education organization for Summer program
7/5-8/14/05

Stipend of $2000+ (more if resume warrants)

For more details contact Cori Gardner at cori [at] wingspanarts.org and see the
website at www.wingspanarts.org

Please do not contact me I Am just a conduit.



-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 22:18:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BE9DA934.7238%bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-22165050 [at] prxy.net>

>> The Wildfire website says "For maximum brilliance under blacklight
>>  always apply Wildfire paint over a white non-fluorescent background."

>> Anyone done it over black?
> 
> Personally, I think Wildfire are wrong. I have done UV effects many times,
> and always over black. When you use fluorescent paint, the light is emitted by
> the paint itself. It's seldon very bright, and the darker everything else is,
> the better.

    Frank, if you've always done it over black, it doesn't seem that you'd
be in a position to proclaim the UV paint experts are wrong. Try it over
white and compare the results to black before you proclaim them wrong. I
have not run such a comparison, so I don't know, but if the folks that make
and sell the stuff say white works better I'd tend to give them some
credence.

    I admit your argument makes sense on the surface, but perhaps having a
white surface underneath would tend to act as a reflector - making the
paint's luminance appear brighter.

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House



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Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 22:31:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE9DAC5D.74AC%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-22168004 [at] prxy.net>

on 5/3/05 10:18 PM, Bruce Purdy at bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com wrote:

>> Personally, I think Wildfire are wrong. I have done UV effects many times,
>> and always over black. When you use fluorescent paint, the light is emitted
>> by
>> the paint itself. It's seldon very bright, and the darker everything else is,
>> the better.


OK.  I'm a bit confused by this comment. (easily done these days, I admit)
But are you saying that the paint emits the light.  As in "generates" the
light.  Surely you don't mean that?  The paint reflects the light yes?   Or
do I have my terms all wrong and should stick to rigging?

Thanks.
A bewildered
Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride
http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html



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Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050503213250.01c8c868 [at] mail.insightbb.com>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:35:58 -0500
From: Mike Brubaker <mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints
In-Reply-To: <list-22168085 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-22168004 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-22168085 [at] prxy.net>

Actually, Bill, the paint DOES generate the light.  The ultraviolet light 
excites the compounds in the paint, which then emit light in the visible 
spectrum.  This is the same way that both a fluorescent lamp works (and a 
CRT too, I think).  I would guess that the fluorescent paint does reflect 
UV light, also, but none of us can see that.

'Zat help at all?

Mike

At 09:31 PM 5/3/2005, Bill Sapsis wrote:

>OK.  I'm a bit confused by this comment. (easily done these days, I admit)
>But are you saying that the paint emits the light.  As in "generates" the
>light.  Surely you don't mean that?  The paint reflects the light yes?   Or
>do I have my terms all wrong and should stick to rigging?


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Message-ID: <000901c55053$04adbdd0$c86a1745 [at] Fred>
From: "Mike Rock" <rockm [at] new.rr.com>
References: <list-22168004 [at] prxy.net> <list-22168085 [at] prxy.net> <list-22168228 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:43:13 -0500

 If I remember right from chemistry light is caused by electrons jumping
from one energy level to another. Different sizes produce different effects.
Its a little fuzzy but I found a site that explains it a little better.

Mike Rock


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Message-ID: <051a01c55055$51fdd8c0$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco>
From: "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
References: <list-22159475 [at] prxy.net> <list-22167301 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:59:35 -0700


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Farmer" <dale [at] cybercom.net>

>    The next morning they let us know that yes, it really was mercury, and
> that the area was safe to enter.   Sheesh, what a waste of time and 
> effort.

   Why not look at it as their chance for a valuable training excercise? 



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From: "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
Subject: RE: 1940's Night Club Pix
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 07:01:50 +0400
In-Reply-To: <list-22163870 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20050504030207.2C4F35806 [at] mail05.powweb.com>

It does not say it has to be American !

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Steve
Larson
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:32 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Casablanca and Cabaret are not USA.  Cotton Club and some of the Cary Grant,
Hepburn, Tracy, Stewart movies often went to clubs.

Steve

> From: "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:31:49 -0500
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Rent Casablanca .  Rick's would be a nice example.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Larson" <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
> 
> 
>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
>> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> How about all those great 40's movies?
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>>> From: "Charles J Korecki" <ckorecki [at] hotmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>>> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:28:04 -0400
>>> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theeatrical.net>
>>> Subject: 1940's Night Club Pix
>>> 
>>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
>>> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Hello.  The director of our next musical review wants the set to 
>>> evoke 1940's Night Club vibe.  I am trying to find pictures to give 
>>> me some inspiration.  I have found some general material in a few 
>>> architecture books, but nothing really inspiring.  Can anyone 
>>> provide any leads for books, pictures, or other sources of material 
>>> that might help inspire me
> on
>>> this project?  Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Charles J Korecki
>>> Currently praying the passage of a school levy in Ohio
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 




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Message-ID: <052101c55056$40002cd0$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco>
From: "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
References: <list-22168004 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 20:06:20 -0700


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Purdy" <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>

if the folks that make
> and sell the stuff say white works better I'd tend to give them some
> credence.


  And perhaps, as the manufacturer, they even did tests, and perhaps, also, 
they are clever enough to consider that their paint needs to look its best 
under both UV and natural light, since they are selling a line of paints 
that allow you to create a dual purpose canvas.

  But we can assume they are wrong, because Frank has used a different 
product under different circumstances. 



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From: megironda [at] att.net (Gerry G.)
Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 03:07:43 +0000
Message-Id: <050420050307.8908.42783C7F00028F4C000022CC21612436460E0B02019D07090A03 [at] att.net>

Well it does say "OHIO" is there another one?
Gerry G.
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> It does not say it has to be American !
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Steve
> Larson
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:32 AM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Casablanca and Cabaret are not USA.  Cotton Club and some of the Cary Grant,
> Hepburn, Tracy, Stewart movies often went to clubs.
> 
> Steve
> 
> > From: "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
> > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> > Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:31:49 -0500
> > To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> > Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
> > 
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> > <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Rent Casablanca .  Rick's would be a nice example.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Larson" <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
> > To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
> > 
> > 
> >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> >> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> How about all those great 40's movies?
> >> 
> >> Steve
> >> 
> >>> From: "Charles J Korecki" <ckorecki [at] hotmail.com>
> >>> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> >>> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:28:04 -0400
> >>> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theeatrical.net>
> >>> Subject: 1940's Night Club Pix
> >>> 
> >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> >>> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------
> >>> 
> >>> Hello.  The director of our next musical review wants the set to 
> >>> evoke 1940's Night Club vibe.  I am trying to find pictures to give 
> >>> me some inspiration.  I have found some general material in a few 
> >>> architecture books, but nothing really inspiring.  Can anyone 
> >>> provide any leads for books, pictures, or other sources of material 
> >>> that might help inspire me
> > on
> >>> this project?  Thanks!
> >>> 
> >>> Charles J Korecki
> >>> Currently praying the passage of a school levy in Ohio
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 



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From: "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
Subject: RE: 1940's Night Club Pix
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 07:10:29 +0400
In-Reply-To: <list-22168636 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <20050504031051.453E75902 [at] mail05.powweb.com>

Quote "  Hello.  The director of our next musical review wants the set to
evoke 1940's Night Club vibe"

Were does it say Ohio in the question? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Gerry G.
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:08 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Well it does say "OHIO" is there another one?
Gerry G.
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> It does not say it has to be American !
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Steve 
> Larson
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:32 AM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Casablanca and Cabaret are not USA.  Cotton Club and some of the Cary 
> Grant, Hepburn, Tracy, Stewart movies often went to clubs.
> 
> Steve
> 
> > From: "Randy B." <rgbrzosk [at] usermail.com>
> > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> > Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:31:49 -0500
> > To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> > Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
> > 
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> > <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Rent Casablanca .  Rick's would be a nice example.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Larson" <tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com>
> > To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
> > 
> > 
> >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> >> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> How about all those great 40's movies?
> >> 
> >> Steve
> >> 
> >>> From: "Charles J Korecki" <ckorecki [at] hotmail.com>
> >>> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> >>> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:28:04 -0400
> >>> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theeatrical.net>
> >>> Subject: 1940's Night Club Pix
> >>> 
> >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> >>> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------
> >>> 
> >>> Hello.  The director of our next musical review wants the set to 
> >>> evoke 1940's Night Club vibe.  I am trying to find pictures to 
> >>> give me some inspiration.  I have found some general material in a 
> >>> few architecture books, but nothing really inspiring.  Can anyone 
> >>> provide any leads for books, pictures, or other sources of 
> >>> material that might help inspire me
> > on
> >>> this project?  Thanks!
> >>> 
> >>> Charles J Korecki
> >>> Currently praying the passage of a school levy in Ohio
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 





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From: megironda [at] att.net (Gerry G.)
Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 03:16:13 +0000
Message-Id: <050420050316.16221.42783E7C00039E3000003F5D21612436460E0B02019D07090A03 [at] att.net>

were is a past tense , Where is what I assume you mean.... One can make an inference if not adverse....read his tag...
But you might be right we just don't know if it's a night club in this solar system either...
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Simon Shuker" <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Quote "  Hello.  The director of our next musical review wants the set to
> evoke 1940's Night Club vibe"
> 
> Were does it say Ohio in the question? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Gerry G.
 
> Well it does say "OHIO" is there another one?
> Gerry G.
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> > >>> this project?  Thanks!
> > >>> 
> > >>> Charles J Korecki
> > >>> Currently praying the passage of a school levy in Ohio

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Message-ID: <2104.64.28.53.133.1115194139.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org>
In-Reply-To: <list-22167301 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-22159475 [at] prxy.net> <list-22167301 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 01:08:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal)
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> and call down to our ships hazardous materials guy to see if he has one.
> Not
> more than three minutes later the damage control officer is knocking
> urgently
> at the door and ordering us to evacuate the space.  He then shuts down all
> the heat and ventilation in the area and calls over to the destroyer
> tender for
>
> an emergency response team.
>     Four guys in full body rubber suits, SCBA, with bags full of gear
> arrive
> a little while later.  They insist everyone evacuate that area of the ship
> and
> the go in and pick up the broken thermometer and the little blobs of
> mercury.
> They take air sample and surface swabs and tell us not to enter the area
> until they finish testing the samples.
>     The next morning they let us know that yes, it really was mercury, and
> that the area was safe to enter.   Sheesh, what a waste of time and
> effort.

Just think. The DCO and ERT were able to justify their continued
existance, at least in their own minds and as probably reported in a mound
of paperwork.

Bill


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Message-ID: <ef72403405050402283d5c3f4e [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:28:00 +0100
From: Tony Miller <tonymille [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Tony Miller <tonymille [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for Rome?
In-Reply-To: <list-22161390 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-22161390 [at] prxy.net>

At the momemt I'm working at the Royal Armouries Museum (which is one
of the oldest in the world). I asked one of the curators about the
history of women sword fighters.

Women have fought in public arenas since at least the Roman Empire
(including the opening of the Coliseum in 80AD) ever since then women
have fought in various cultures including Viking, Saxon, Arab,
Japanese and Mongol. In England we have a proud history of warrior
queens and women have competed in tournaments since at least the 14th
century both with swords and the joust. Ever since then there has been
a strong tradition of woman fighters including at the crusades.

Maybe Frank's problem is he isn't old fashioned enough.

Good thrusting and parrying.

Tony Miller



On Tue, 03 May 2005 10:38:51, CB <psyd [at] cox.net> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>=20
> >One of them was often an attractive young woman,
> >sword and all!
> >OK, I'm old fashioned. But, somehow, women and swords don't seem to come
> >together.
>=20
> You've got to be kidding me, Frank!   You should see some of the women ou=
t
> here that hang out with swords and all the other regalia.  They have a
> tendancy to know how to use them, as well.  As far as I'm concerned, to s=
ee
> anything hotter, I'd have to buy two drinks and put a coupla bucks in a
> G-string ever so often.
>                                Chris "Chris" Babbie

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