Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/ClamAV http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 22197031; Thu, 05 May 2005 03:02:07 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #387 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 03:01:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #387 1. Re: Suggestions for Rome? by Steve Larson 2. Advice on 1940's Night Club Pix by Gion DeFrancesco 3. Re: Advice on 1940's Night Club Pix by "Charles J Korecki" 4. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix by "Jon Ares" 5. Big compasses by "Dougherty, Jim" 6. site ? by IAEG [at] aol.com 7. Re: site ? by Boyd Ostroff 8. Re: site ? by IAEG [at] aol.com 9. Re: site ? by "Laura McMeley" 10. Re: site ? by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 11. Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry by "C. Dopher" 12. Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry by IAEG [at] aol.com 13. Re: site ? by IAEG [at] aol.com 14. Re: ETC smartpack dimmers by "Roy Harline" 15. Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry by Dale Farmer 16. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix by "Paul Guncheon" 17. Re: UV paint over white by "Karl G. Ruling" 18. Re: Big Compass by "Paul Guncheon" 19. Re: Mousetrap by "Paul Guncheon" 20. Re: site ? by Noah Price 21. Re: site ? by Boyd Ostroff 22. Re: ETC smartpack dimmers by "Tony Deeming" 23. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix by Tony Miller 24. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) by Cosmo Catalano 25. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix by Michael Powers 26. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) by Steve Larson 27. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix by "Charles J Korecki" 28. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) by Bruce Purdy 29. Re: Mousetrap by Pat Kight 30. Re: Mousetrap by Shawn Palmer 31. Re: Mousetrap by "Paul Schreiner" 32. Re: Tucson show by Ron Cargile 33. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) by Jerry Durand 34. Re: Wildfire UV paints by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 35. Re: Wildfire UV paints by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 36. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) by "Jon Ares" 37. Re: mousetrap by "Paul Guncheon" 38. Re: Wildfire UV paints by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 39. Re: mousetrap by "Don Taco" 40. Re: Copper tubing by "Wayne Rasmussen" 41. Re: Suggestions for Rome? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 42. Re: Tucson show by CB 43. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) by "Bill Nelson" 44. Re: Wildfire UV paints by CB 45. Re: 1940's Night Club Pix by CB 46. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) by Steve Larson 47. job: summer electrics intern by "Alex M. Postpischil" 48. Job Posting by "Tony Puglielli" 49. Re: ETC Smartpack dimmers by "thad [at] nls.net" 50. Re: ETC Smartpack dimmers by "Tony Deeming" 51. Dennis needs a card by CB 52. Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry by Brian Munroe 53. Re: Tucson show by Brian Munroe 54. Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry by Herrick Goldman 55. cirrhosis, was Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry by Jacqueline Haney Kidwell 56. Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" 57. Re: Tucson show by Ronald Thevenot 58. Re: Tucson show by Jerry Durand 59. Re: Tucson show by "Randy Whitcomb" 60. Re: Suggestions for Rome? by Tony Miller *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 08:40:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Suggestions for Rome? From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Oh, for God's sake, think about what you just said. Steve > > Maybe Frank's problem is he isn't old fashioned enough. > ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:57:47 -0400 From: Gion DeFrancesco Subject: Advice on 1940's Night Club Pix If you have access to a college or university library in Ohio, tap into OhioLink and do some keyword searches to find some excellent primary research. Search for famous clubs like the Cotton Club or the Stork Club, keyword search Swing Era, Swing Clubs, nightlife, biographies of swing bands/bandleaders, jazz musicians and era pop stars are likely also to have images of clubs. Nothing can beat pictures of the actual places. Your local library might also have access. Hope your levy is one of the few that passed... -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Gion DeFrancesco Assistant Professor of Theatre/Scene Designer MUT Production Manager Miami University 131 Center for Performing Arts Oxford, OH 45056 513.529.8318 On the web at http://www.users.muohio.edu/defranga ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "There are no hopeless situations; there are only men who have grown hopeless about them." Clare Boothe Luce ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Charles J Korecki" Subject: RE: Advice on 1940's Night Club Pix Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:15:00 -0400 Thanks to all who answered my call for help. Yes, I am in Ohio--Cuyahoga Falls to be exact. Our levy did pass, but we're not out of the proverbial woods yet. (Like most public schools in OH.) Thanks for the bandwith and all the help! Charles J Korecki >If you have access to a college or university library in Ohio, tap into >OhioLink and do some keyword searches to find some excellent primary >research. > >Hope your levy is one of the few that passed... > >-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <005701c550ab$eaec94d0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 06:19:35 -0700 > > Rent THE COTTON CLUB, CABARET Those are 30's. (Not to say that in the 40's, clubs no longer looked like 30's clubs, but...) -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:24:08 -0400 Subject: Big compasses From: "Dougherty, Jim" Message-ID: OK, mea culpa - our compasses are ten years old, and were bought new at the time. I thought I'd seen them on the shelves still, too, but most of our local hardware options are engaged in a downward spiral of selection and tool quality, so I know they're not there now. However... In my attempt to get Paul better information, I found http://www.gladstonetools.com, which has way big compasses (up to 24" legs) that take pencils or metal points, and max out at $28. What a bahgin! I've never bought there, but they look like the desired item. And, oddly enough, they are located in Kentucky although the zip code isn't 41017. - Jim Dougherty ATD, Middlebury College P.S. Most carbonated beverages are a mild carbonic, not phosporic, acid. Comes from dissolving that carbon dioxide in the water, y'know. ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1fb.7ed93ad.2faa2a5d [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:38:37 EDT Subject: site ? Noah, for some reason I am having problems getting http://stagecraft.theprices.net to load, , is it me ? very best, Keith Arsenault PresidentIAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:38:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: site ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: It just hangs for me also (9:41 AM Wed on a comcast cable connection)... | Boyd Ostroff | Director of Design and Technology | Opera Company of Philadelphia | http://tech.operaphilly.com | ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1a6.3755b697.2faa311f [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:07:27 EDT Subject: Re: site ? In a message dated 5/4/05 9:42:47 AM, ostroff [at] operaphilly.com writes: << It just hangs for me also (9:41 AM Wed on a comcast cable connection)... >> ahhhh, ,, so it's NOT just me this time, , , breathing sigh of relief,, , , very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Laura McMeley" Subject: RE: site ? Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:12:21 -0500 It won't load for me either. (Verizon Fios line) Laura McMeley LD, Dallas Texas www.geocities.com/lmcmeley/ >From: IAEG [at] aol.com >Reply-To: "Stagecraft" >To: "Stagecraft" >Subject: site ? >Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:38:37 EDT > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Noah, > >for some reason I am having problems getting >http://stagecraft.theprices.net > to load, , > >is it me ? > >very best, > >Keith Arsenault >PresidentIAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group >Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: site ? Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:19:12 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c550b4$421ded00$6701a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > It won't load for me either. (Verizon Fios line) It's all Keith's fault. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 10:33:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Frank wrote: > Shawn wrote: >> At this point it seems my other option is Ten Little Indians. > > PC strikes again. I remember the original title, and indeed, the song from > which it was derived. "Ten Little N****r Boys". I looked up "Ten Little Niggers" on the web and indeed the play -- and the book -- started out with that name. Of more interest to me [than the political correctness discussion Frank is trying to generate and which is off-topic] was this little tidbit from a rather badly done website, purportedly Ian McKellan's personal site. In it he describes an experience he had with the play in April 1962: "Bernard Kilby played Sir Lawrence Wargrave the mass-murderer who poisoned me, his first victim, early in Act One. During the middle of the run, Bernie mismanaged a stage-fall over the sofa and hurt his innards. After the show, he was rushed to hospital"..."Two days later Bernie died." (trimming done by me; all is still in context) AFTER the show??? DIED?? I have never heard of a simple stagefall resulting in someone's death before. Heartattacks, sure; collapsing scenery, inadequate rigging, sure, we've all heard of that. But a pratfall over a sofa?? Can anyone confirm? BTW, the website claims Sir Ian will appear in The DaVinci Code with Tom Hanks, directed by Ron Howard, in May 2006. Cris Dopher, LD ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:36:50 EDT Subject: Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry In a message dated 5/4/05 10:34:32 AM, brooklyn [at] dopher.com writes: << AFTER the show??? DIED?? I have never heard of a simple stagefall resulting in someone's death before. Heartattacks, sure; collapsing scenery, inadequate rigging, sure, we've all heard of that. But a pratfall over a sofa?? Can anyone confirm? >> internal bleeding perhaps ? very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:38:40 EDT Subject: Re: site ? In a message dated 5/4/05 10:20:13 AM, stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com writes: << > It won't load for me either. (Verizon Fios line) It's all Keith's fault. >> mea culpa, , mea culpa,, overworked, underfed mea culpa, , Keith ------------------------------ Subject: RE: ETC smartpack dimmers Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:40:04 -0500 Message-ID: <098DD67E74F75A4CAA60135D44F990FBCF47 [at] tssbs.TSC.LOCAL> From: "Roy Harline" Brian Dambacher asked about Smartpack dimmers... I have sold and installed a number of these into small school stages in = the past year since they were rolled out from ETC.=20 They are a nice and inexpensive solution to small stage lighting. I = like to 12 x 10amp dimmer packs a lot. Of the half dozen systems that I have installed, I have not had any = problems with the dimmer packs.=20 You need to make sure you look at how the power feed is going in. (can = be three phase or single phase)=20 You need to be aware that you can only load 10amps on each of the 12 = circuits.=20 If you buy the wall mount version (which I think looks nicer) it will = take up some real estate on the wall, and you will need a DMXin plug in = station and hardwire the DMX into the rack.=20 If you buy the rack mount version the DMXin is on the front of the pack, = and you will need to have jumpers between packs.=20 My recommendation is that if you want 36 dimmers, that you have them in = a small rack. Make sure you get a rack with a back mounting panel that = attaches to the rack itself, allowing the rack to swing away. That way = you have access to the back of the rack. Remember to make sure the = power feed is landed correctly before mounting the smartpack into the = rack.=20 This summer ETC is rolling out the some preset stations to work with the = dimmer pack that will work with the dimmer packs to allow remote control = of the preset functions in the pack. Hope this helps. Roy Harline Sales and Design Texas Scenic Company=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4278E261.FBC2D784 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 10:55:29 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry References: "C. Dopher" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Frank wrote: > > Shawn wrote: > >> At this point it seems my other option is Ten Little Indians. > > > > PC strikes again. I remember the original title, and indeed, the song from > > which it was derived. "Ten Little N****r Boys". > > > I looked up "Ten Little Niggers" on the web and indeed the play -- and the > book -- started out with that name. > > Of more interest to me [than the political correctness discussion Frank is > trying to generate and which is off-topic] was this little tidbit from a > rather badly done website, purportedly Ian McKellan's personal site. In it > he describes an experience he had with the play in April 1962: > > "Bernard Kilby played Sir Lawrence Wargrave the mass-murderer who poisoned > me, his first victim, early in Act One. During the middle of the run, Bernie > mismanaged a stage-fall over the sofa and hurt his innards. After the show, > he was rushed to hospital"..."Two days later Bernie died." (trimming done > by me; all is still in context) > > AFTER the show??? DIED?? > > I have never heard of a simple stagefall resulting in someone's death > before. Heartattacks, sure; collapsing scenery, inadequate rigging, sure, > we've all heard of that. But a pratfall over a sofa?? Can anyone confirm? > > BTW, the website claims Sir Ian will appear in The DaVinci Code with Tom > Hanks, directed by Ron Howard, in May 2006. > > Cris Dopher, LD I can see it happening. If you have certain conditions, ( such as cirrhosis of the liver ) a bruised liver can be fatal. An injury that tears ones intestines, allowing the contents to spill into one's abdominal cavity, is very serious, especially if not diagnosed and surgically treated quickly. And in those pre-cat scan days, diagnosis of something like that without surgery was very difficult. --Dale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 05:10:31 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix Message-id: <01a101c550bb$6ad7c840$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: << The director of our next musical review wants the set to evoke 1940's Night Club vibe. >> I would check my local library for copies of "Life", "Look", and any Hollywood magazines of the period. Laters, Paul "I've mixed up my gloves," Tom said intermittently. ------------------------------ From: "Karl G. Ruling" Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:10:25 -0400 Subject: Re: UV paint over white Reply-to: kruling [at] esta.org Message-ID: <4278ADA1.26602.805DE0 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: > > I admit your argument makes sense on the surface, but perhaps > having a > white surface underneath would tend to act as a reflector - making the > paint's luminance appear brighter. > Bingo! The phosphors emit light in all directions. White paint underneath reflects some of the light that is emitted toward the substrate, increasing the visible output. White paint will also reflect normal visible lighting falling on it, so this trick is most effective when there is no normal visible light, only the UV and the light produced by the phosphors. It's therefore a great trick for dark rides and dark haunted houses. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 05:11:57 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Big Compass Message-id: <01a201c550bb$9dd537f0$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: << >You can also look for what i believe is called a beam compass. I got one >from McMaster Carr a few years back. it's basically a tape measure with a >spike in the middle and small lead holder on the end. I think it does up to >about 4' radius and as small as 4" or so. it kinda picks up where a >conventional compass leaves off. McMaster Carr #2127A12 Tape Rule Marking Compass 3-1/2"-72" radius range $29.59 >> I have a beam compass and don't really trust the accuracy of tape rule compasses any more than I do string and a nail. I am simply looking for a good divider type compass that is accurate and well built in all regards. As far as CNC routing, if it'll fit in my toolbox and can be used for layout and costs less that $50.00, it is the way to go. Laters Paul "I teach at a university," Tom professed. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 05:24:21 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Mousetrap Message-id: <01a601c550bd$595682d0$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: As I remember, there are few fun toys to work on in "Mousetrap": A blood squirting garrote, A bolt firing crossbow Someone is beaten to death with a log Trick antique handcuffs (These should be of the Darby variety at least. I think I still have the pair I had modified) http://www.blacksteel.com/hcs/index.cgi?section=Collection&mode=1&start=198 The set also requires a partners desk and a collection of antique weapons. There is mention of a low beam on which someone can bump their head. I seem to remember reference to seeing out the front door... and there is a garden or other exterior through some doors. Most of the designs I have seen have lacked enough weapons. The owner of the house is a quite successful author who is an avid collector. I designed a set for this show a few years ago and with the help of the local opera had access to a lot of weapons. Even though I had around 50 swords, maces, halberds, spears, etc., I could have easily used double this number. Time prevented me from adding more. Laters, Paul "This is a picture of my new house," said Tom, visibly moved. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <0c6d2bf752ba31f88679ea1c09c11aab [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Re: site ? Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:24:42 -0700 On May 4, 2005, at 6:38 AM, IAEG [at] aol.com wrote: > for some reason I am having problems getting > http://stagecraft.theprices.net > to load, , > > is it me ? No, the archive database hung up. Back now! As a reminder to all, it's much faster to contact me about site or list problems at stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net than to write to the list. In this case I saw the list message pretty quickly, but that's not always the case. Though, in the case of web site outages like this I'm paged, so I actually knew about this and fixed it before reading your mail :-) Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 11:24:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: site ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Wed, 4 May 2005, Noah Price wrote: > As a reminder to all, it's much faster to contact me about site or list > problems at stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net than to write to the list. But what fun would that be? Then you'd probably just fix it and we couldn't spend so much enjoyable time discussing the problem and blaming it on other people... | Boyd Ostroff | Director of Design and Technology | Opera Company of Philadelphia | http://tech.operaphilly.com | ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: RE: ETC smartpack dimmers Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:28:30 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: BD wrote Hello All, Has anyone had any experience with the 1.2k smartpack dimmers from ETC? What are your thoughts? Why do you like (or dislike)them? I'm doing a small installation (36 dimmers) and the price, as well as the features, look really nice. Thanks in advance, Brian Dambacher _ I have 8 rack mounted Smart Packs and two wall-mounted versions. All in all, I really like them, and the price certainly was right when we bought them about 2 years back. The wall-mounted packs came after the rack-packs (when we bought the first lot there was only the rack type available), but looking back, I'd prbably have gone the same way even then, as the 8 are in one dimmer room on their own, whilst the wall-mounts are sitting alongside the Permus rack in another space. The only problem I've had with running them is that there was a bad batch of dimmer cubes (1 cube for 4 channels in the 12-channel packs) and we lost a couple of cubes a while back - I think it was due to the briefest of short circuits when a lamp blows. However, ETC were extremely good on the after-sales support front and not only sent me replacements without delay but also a 'spare' (IIRC) for one of the other packs in case that went too. This faulty batch of identifiable cubes is covered for ever (until they blow), whilst the rest of the racks have a 2-year warranty (UK anyway). The only other problem we had was with the termination of the distribution side - not really a problem, more a small whinge - On several of the packs we've got two circuits coming in, as selected outlets are doubled on stage - the standard connectors on both are spades, and there isn't really a lot of room to get two 2.5mm wires in. We used insulated piggy-back connectors in the end, but it's still rather tight. ISTR that there was also an issue over neutrals... The wall mounted racks had the neutrals wired to the spades, but when I retro fitted one of the earlier rack mounts (bought 2 years ago but only installed a few months back) I found that this didn't seem to be the case - something I found rather odd...! Never got round to checking with ETC, as the easy fix was to use the screw-terminal neutral bar clamped to the back panel. However, all things being equal, the racks once installed have given excellent service. Ynot ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:43:16 +0100 From: Tony Miller Reply-To: Tony Miller Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix In-Reply-To: References:

> The director of our next musical review wants the set to evoke 1940's Nig= ht > Club vibe. >> Have a look at which is the William P. Gottlieb collection of jazz photographs from 1938 - 48. It is a really good resource with photographs of jazz clubs as well as all the famous musicians of the time. Tony Miller. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:56:56 -0400 From: Cosmo Catalano Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) In-reply-to: Message-id: <9460773d03112afe446147384c11a399 [at] williams.edu> References: My first contact w/ mercury was at the Dr.s office when I was maybe 6. I'd knocked over a blood pressure thingy and the mercury was rolling around on the floor of his office in nead little globs. The Dr and my dad cornered it and put it in a vial for me to take home. It turned my dad's wedding ring silver for a while. Of course I brought the stuff to school and my pals and I had a great time playing with it. I don't seem to have suffered any noticeable effects, I even still have most of my hair. Of course back then, I rode my bike w/o a helmet, always carried a pocket knife, dealt with insults from bullies ("what kind of a weird name is Cosmo, anyway?") on my own, and not one kid in my entire 12 years of public school ever had a problem with peanut butter. Then there was the time in 9th grade I put a nickel into nitric acid to see what would happen--very cool brown smoke....OK, that WAS stupid. Yes, we are in the era now where personal responsibility for one's own actions, good sense and respect for others has been completely abrogated by the Authorities. Deity help us if we ever have to go back to thinking for ourselves. Rant over, back to your regular programming... Cosmo ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4278F153.5090906 [at] theater.umass.edu> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:59:15 -0400 From: Michael Powers Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix "Charles J Korecki" writes: << .... wants the set to evoke 1940's Night Club vibe. .....>> Charles, 1940' war years or post war???? Where?? USA east coast, west coast, Chicago, Detroit, deep south? Europe? what part? Caribbean? Rio? If we know a bit more about what you're looking for we might be able to help. Michael Michael Powers, Technical Director UMass Amherst 112 FAC West Amherst, Ma. 01003 413-545-6821 Voice 413-577-0025 Fax mptecdir [at] aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:13:02 -0400 Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Ever do the experiment with a tooth in a glass of Coke? Didn't last too long. Steve ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Charles J Korecki" Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:14:00 -0400 ><< .... wants the set to evoke 1940's Night Club vibe. .....>> > >Charles, > >1940' war years or post war???? Where?? USA east coast, west coast, >Chicago, Detroit, deep south? >Europe? what part? Caribbean? Rio? > The music is mostly swing--a large jazz band with small group of singers. The director is looking for a lush big city feel. NY or Chicago. Maybe LA. The set does not have to be realistic (ii.e. a copy of actual clubs). The director (who is primarily a music director) is more concerned that the set elements reinforce the style the of the music and help "transport" people to a time and place where swing was big and people lived well. I am usually given a lot of freedom when it comes to designing these shows since the director is moe concerned with the sound than the look. I am merely looking for suggestions of places I can look for inspiration. Thanks again! Charles J Korecki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:15:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Yes, we are in the era now where personal responsibility for one's own > actions, good sense and respect for others has been completely > abrogated by the Authorities. It's also a vicious circle. The less personal responsibility the establishment allows and expects of us, the less responsibly kids (and adults) tend to act. "I can do whatever I want - no one can tell me what to do" attitude seems to have become the norm. In response to that, there become more enforced restrictions - and so it continues. Kids that grow up knowing that their parents trust them, and that they are responsible for their own actions, tend to grow up more responsibly than those with over-protective parents. Government and society must learn to be better parents. Is it possible to reverse this vicious circle? Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4278F5EA.30303 [at] peak.org> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:18:50 -0700 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Mousetrap References:

In-Reply-To: Paul Guncheon wrote: > As I remember, there are few fun toys to work on in "Mousetrap": > > A blood squirting garrote, > A bolt firing crossbow > Someone is beaten to death with a log > Trick antique handcuffs (These should be of the Darby variety at least. I > think I still have the pair I had modified) > > http://www.blacksteel.com/hcs/index.cgi?section=Collection&mode=1&start=198 > > The set also requires a partners desk and a collection of antique weapons. > There is mention of a low beam on which someone can bump their head. I seem > to remember reference to seeing out the front door... and there is a garden > or other exterior through some doors. I think you may have your traps mixed up - this sounds like the prop and set list for Ira Levin's "Death Trap," not "Mousetrap." -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4278F04B.50706 [at] northnet.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 10:54:51 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Mousetrap References:

In-Reply-To: >> The set also requires a partners desk and a collection of antique >> weapons. >> There is mention of a low beam on which someone can bump their head. I >> seem >> to remember reference to seeing out the front door... and there is a >> garden >> or other exterior through some doors. > > > I think you may have your traps mixed up - this sounds like the prop and > set list for Ira Levin's "Death Trap," not "Mousetrap." Gosh, I hope so. This is probably what I was thinking of initially. If so, I am glad to be corrected. Thanks, Pat. I can breathe easy now. Shawn ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Mousetrap Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:34:10 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C803 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > Trick antique handcuffs (These should be of the Darby=20 > variety at least. I think I still have the pair I had modified) >=20 > http://www.blacksteel.com/hcs/index.cgi?section=3DCollection&mod e=3D1&start=3D198 Very, um, interesting site, to say the least. Though there were plenty of pics of straitjackets... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050504093843.01d6cd00 [at] pop.uci.edu> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:40:26 -0700 From: Ron Cargile Subject: re:Tucson show Hmmm... I don't play golf now... Never tried it at 104 degrees. I wonder if that would help....... Sorry. Couldn't resist. ....Ron >You'd be amazed at how much golf you can play >in 104 degree weather. > Chris "Chris" Babbie ---- Ron Cargile ME, Univ of CA, Irvine ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050504095304.029cba28 [at] localhost> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:59:19 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) In-Reply-To: References:

At 01:08 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote: >Just think. The DCO and ERT were able to justify their continued >existance, at least in their own minds and as probably reported in a mound >of paperwork. For more excess panic and paperwork, we pyro people are starting to receive letters from the DOJ/Office of Consumer Litigation telling us they know who we are (what, the ATF permit give us away?) and that illegal fireworks are illegal and we'll be prosecuted if we make or sell illegal stuff. Gee, you'd think it was illegal or something. Now we're waiting for the other shoe to drop as to what these warnings are leading to, it seems to be related to the CPSC desire to ban all legal fireworks chemicals/supplies to prevent some people from using those items illegally. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:12:48 EDT Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints In a message dated 04/05/05 03:18:56 GMT Daylight Time, bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com writes: > Frank, if you've always done it over black, it doesn't seem that you'd > be in a position to proclaim the UV paint experts are wrong. Try it over > white and compare the results to black before you proclaim them wrong. I > have not run such a comparison, so I don't know, but if the folks that make > and sell the stuff say white works better I'd tend to give them some > credence. > > I admit your argument makes sense on the surface, but perhaps having a > white surface underneath would tend to act as a reflector - making the > paint's luminance appear brighter. Brightness is all relative. If you try it on white, this will pick up every last bit of stray light, and reduce the contrast. Even with efficient masking, there is always some stray light. Exit boxes, orchestra lights, the script lights in the control room all add their share. Even the UV sources emit a bit in the visible spectrum. I have used UV-sensitive make up, on occasion. This can produce some subtle and interesting effects, for ghosts and so on. I seem to remember that a touch of Vaseline will work, at a basic level. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1f7.9199382.2faa5d9f [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:17:19 EDT Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints In a message dated 04/05/05 03:28:59 GMT Daylight Time, bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com writes: > OK. I'm a bit confused by this comment. (easily done these days, I admit) > But are you saying that the paint emits the light. As in "generates" the > light. Surely you don't mean that? The paint reflects the light yes? Or > do I have my terms all wrong and should stick to rigging? Bill, I am saying that very thing. The UV stimulates the paint to re-radiate the energy at some other wavelength. UV has no colour (Please don't re-start the Congo Blue thread!!!). That is why it is sometimes called 'blacklight'. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <008601c550ce$7d07dec0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:27:04 -0700 > Ever do the experiment with a tooth in a glass > of Coke? Didn't last too long. This was discussed here not too long ago - covered on Mythbusters. They did the tooth-in-Coke thing (and lots of other urban legends surrounding Coke's ability to do lots of stuff) - and other than staining the tooth, it didn't do squat. About the only myth that survived was the theory that Coke can shine chrome, which it did, and they explained it most likely the phosphate that did that. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 07:27:35 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: mousetrap Message-id: <01e001c550ce$90ba9840$0202a8c0 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: <> Ooops... Urrm... Alert group member Robert G. Anderson correctly identified the misnamed play in this week's first snap quiz! Congatulations! (Muttering) Good thing nobody saw that. Nothing like making a fool of one's self in a public forum to start the day. Sigh. Laters, Paul "What a charming doorway!" said Tom, entranced. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <30.71f5cda5.2faa613b [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:32:43 EDT Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints In a message dated 04/05/05 04:04:56 GMT Daylight Time, taco [at] peak.org writes: > > And perhaps, as the manufacturer, they even did tests, and perhaps, also, > they are clever enough to consider that their paint needs to look its best > under both UV and natural light, since they are selling a line of paints > that allow you to create a dual purpose canvas. > > But we can assume they are wrong, because Frank has used a different > product under different circumstances. I certainly haven't used Wildfire, but I have used Rosco UV paint. The trouble is that it is rather expensive, and budget-conscious designers often skimp on it. When we did "The Wizard of Oz", some years ago, the designer was quite lavish with it, and the whole of the tornado scene was very effective. The crew in full black, including hoods and gloves. Very thorough masking. Fluorescent paint on the house, and on some straw bales and props, and well rehearsed moves, plus a total blackout of the stage lighting. The UV sources were four 4' tubes. It all depends on what you are trying to do. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <05cc01c550cf$ee7f0000$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References:

Subject: Re: mousetrap Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:37:22 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Guncheon" > > (Muttering) Good thing nobody saw that. Nothing like making a fool of > one's > self in a public forum to start the day. What?? That isn't what we're here for? I've been doing it wrong all these years? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000a01c550d1$c60cc600$0617000a [at] blair.edu> From: "Wayne Rasmussen" Subject: Re: Copper tubing Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:50:34 -0400 >>As I first asked about copper fittings, one should know they are not rough and do not need to attacked with sandpaper, emery cloth, or any other smoothing medium stronger than polishing rouge... maybe tripoli. I consider the act of polishing to be making progressively smaller scratches in a material, thereby reducing the scattering of the materials reflection of light. Tarnish is more a discoloration of a chemical nature than roughness. Not unlike the effect of mayonnaise on sterling silver (it turn's it black).<< Copper fittings are relatively smooth. Compared with brass fittings, they are quite smooth, but compared to sterling silver, they are not. The copper fittings I have seen all have two ridges on them, presumably from the way they are manufactured. When shipped, they gain scratches from each other. If one desires the copper to look polished from up close, which I believe was your intent, a polishing wheel will eventually accomplish it. The process I described suggested using a sandpaper coarse enough to begin the process. From there, I am in agreement with the remainder of the above paragraph. >>Scratching the tarnish off with relatively coarse grit emery paper makes more work, not less, and as I reported in my last post, is absolutely not the fastest technique.<< Please post when you have found the chemical process that works--I would be interested to know it. Wayne Rasmussen ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1c7.27e9e262.2faa6b3f [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:15:27 EDT Subject: Re: Suggestions for Rome? In a message dated 04/05/05 10:28:38 GMT Daylight Time, tonymille [at] gmail.com writes: > At the momemt I'm working at the Royal Armouries Museum (which is one > of the oldest in the world). I asked one of the curators about the > history of women sword fighters. > > Women have fought in public arenas since at least the Roman Empire > (including the opening of the Coliseum in 80AD) ever since then women > have fought in various cultures including Viking, Saxon, Arab, > Japanese and Mongol. In England we have a proud history of warrior > queens and women have competed in tournaments since at least the 14th > century both with swords and the joust. Ever since then there has been > a strong tradition of woman fighters including at the crusades. > > Maybe Frank's problem is he isn't old fashioned enough. Evidently not. Boudicca I know about: women in tournaments I don't. A source for further information would be of interest. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050504121359.01704248 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:13:59 From: CB Subject: Re: Tucson show >Golf Club? Bit heavy, but with a good sized whistle rocket engine I could >probably get decent altitude out of one. But, we only do that sort of >stuff at Lake Havasu City, not public shows. :) 'Kay. What time should I be there? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2724.64.28.53.133.1115232904.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 11:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) From: "Bill Nelson" >> Ever do the experiment with a tooth in a glass >> of Coke? Didn't last too long. > > This was discussed here not too long ago - covered on Mythbusters. They > did > the tooth-in-Coke thing (and lots of other urban legends surrounding > Coke's > ability to do lots of stuff) - and other than staining the tooth, it > didn't > do squat. Coke, and other sodas, used to eat away a tooth in a jar fairly rapidly. But that was before the carbonation and citric acid were cut way down. The modern sodas are insipid compared to those of even the 60s. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050504122418.01704248 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:24:18 From: CB Subject: Re: Wildfire UV paints >OK. I'm a bit confused by this comment. (easily done these days, I admit) >But are you saying that the paint emits the light. Yes. >As in "generates" the light. Yes. >Surely you don't mean that? Yes. >The paint reflects the light yes? No. >Or do I have my terms all wrong No. >and should stick to rigging? Yes. Basically, on a very non-tecnical basis and teh comparison being made is a *VERY LOOSE* and laymans version of what happpens, the paint is stimulated by UV rays to emit visible light in the same manner that the element of a lamp is stimulated to emit visible light. Once you can see that by sending electrical energy through am otherwise intert piece of metal, you can make it emit light, it's easier to grasp how you can make the paint emit light by sending UV energy 'through' it. The paint will also reflect the light sent to it, but since its UV and obove what normal humans can see, we wouldn't see that, see? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050504122846.01704248 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:28:46 From: CB Subject: Re: 1940's Night Club Pix >Well it does say "OHIO" is there another one? Prolly, but that's beside the point. I just did a play in OHIO that was set in ancient Egypt. It can be done. Lets not let this get out of hand and have you both re-posting this entire thread ad-infinitum. Let's all take a deep breath, consider what we're trying to respond to, and trim the remainder, so that the rest of us know what you're talking about. ; > Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 16:10:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: You've got to remember that when I did that experiment, there was no flouride in the water and toothpaste was not as chemically complex as it is now. This was 45 years ago. Steve > From: "Jon Ares" > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:27:04 -0700 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> Ever do the experiment with a tooth in a glass >> of Coke? Didn't last too long. > > > This was discussed here not too long ago - covered on Mythbusters. They did > the tooth-in-Coke thing (and lots of other urban legends surrounding Coke's > ability to do lots of stuff) - and other than staining the tooth, it didn't > do squat. > > About the only myth that survived was the theory that Coke can shine chrome, > which it did, and they explained it most likely the phosphate that did that. > > -- Jon Ares > Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts > www.hevanet.com/acreative > www.wlhstheatre.org > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050504205847.28437.qmail [at] web61306.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:58:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Alex M. Postpischil" Subject: job: summer electrics intern Hi all- My summer gig just sent out a staff update. They're in need of an electrics intern. Anyone interested (or know anyone who is)?? Brevard Music Center http://www.brevardmusic.org/ June 8 - August 8 I don't know about stipends, but room & board is included. It's in the mountains of Western North Carolina. Contact Jill Hermes at jhermes [at] brevardmusic.org for more info. -alex- Alex M. Postpischil, Technical Director Department of Theatre Arts University of Mississippi University, MS 38677 662.915.6993 662.915.5968 - fax Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ------------------------------ Subject: Job Posting Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:02:56 -0500 Message-ID: <1B8C3598EBB9C241BDC7E86AA1FB9761A44D00 [at] srv2mx.milwaukeerep.com> From: "Tony Puglielli" We have a job posting for Master Carpenter, this is the first posting for this job a in 35 years. I would be happy to answer any questions off list, otherwise send all information as is specified. Thanks Tony =20 MASTER CARPENTER - Milwaukee Rep, a LORT A, B, and D theater with sixteen productions annually in four theaters seeks an experienced and energetic leader of the carpentry shop. The successful candidate will demonstrate excellent carpentry skills as well as superior leadership ability, effective communication and planning. The position will work under IATSE Local 18 contract. Send cover letter, resume and references to: Judy Berdan, Production Manager, Attn: Master Carp Position, Milwaukee Repertory Theater, 108 E. Wells Street, Milwaukee Wisconsin 53202 or email jberdan [at] milwaukeerep.com with subject line Master Carp. The Rep is interested in receiving applications from a broad spectrum of people, including women and minorities. Application deadline: June 1, 2005. Start Date: July 2005. Tony Puglielli Technical Director Electric & Sound Director Milwaukee Repertory Theater ph (414) 290-5394 fax (414) 224-9097 =20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <136300-22005534223217125 [at] M2W118.mail2web.com> Reply-To: thad [at] nls.net From: "thad [at] nls.net" Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:32:17 -0400 Subject: RE: ETC Smartpack dimmers These dimmers are reliable overall, however, do NOT tour them=2E They can become extremely unreliable when used on the road=2E They stil have a know= n problem of the control cards comming loose causeing temperature sensor errors that shut the packs down=2E I know this for a fact as I just comple= ted a tour of AIDA with a custom built rack of 6 12x1=2E2k packs=2E During my = last couple of stops I had this problem with several of the packs=2E Its a relatively easy fix, but still a major pain=2E I think that If you use the= m in a permanent installation that is not subject to large amounts of vibrartions, then they should work fine and are probably an ideal choice=2E= Thad Kramer -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Cc: thad [at] nls.net Subject: RE: ETC Smartpack dimmers Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 23:35:25 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of thad [at] nls.net Sent: 04 May 2005 23:32 To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: ETC Smartpack dimmers For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- These dimmers are reliable overall, however, do NOT tour them. They can become extremely unreliable when used on the road. They stil have a known problem of the control cards comming loose causeing temperature sensor errors that shut the packs down. I know this for a fact as I just completed a tour of AIDA with a custom built rack of 6 12x1.2k packs. During my last couple of stops I had this problem with several of the packs. Its a relatively easy fix, but still a major pain. I think that If you use them in a permanent installation that is not subject to large amounts of vibrartions, then they should work fine and are probably an ideal choice. Thad Glad you reminded me of that one - yes, I too had some initial problems with a couple of the cards being loose after transit to us from ETC - they had intended to suggest that we check/reseat the cards before they all went in but somehow missed! Not a problem with the wall-mounts, but when they're in a rack with flexi-tubing strung from the back, it is a bit of a ball-ache to get the out to do the necessary! Never mind - we did them all and have had no problems since! Ynot ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050504162121.016f7a18 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 16:21:21 From: CB Subject: Dennis needs a card >Return-Path: >Received: from fed1rmgxi15.cox.net ([83.193.203.238]) > by fed1rmmtai15.cox.net > (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP > id <20050504212440.PBMR26304.fed1rmmtai15.cox.net [at] fed1rmgxi15.cox.net>; > Wed, 4 May 2005 17:24:40 -0400 >Received: from APoitiers-152-1-55-238.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr > ([83.193.203.238]) by fed1rmgxi15.cox.net > (InterMail vG.1.00.00.00 201-2136-104-20040331) with SMTP > id <20050504212436.JRIU8316.fed1rmgxi15.cox.net [at] APoitiers-152-1-55-238.w83-193. abo.wanadoo.fr>; > Wed, 4 May 2005 17:24:36 -0400 >From: "Kaitlin Blankenship" >Reply-To: "Kaitlin Blankenship" >To: weckerly [at] cox.net, cheripie [at] cox.net, rcbj [at] cox.net, jonesfam1 [at] cox.net, pkbowman [at] cox.net, clark55 [at] cox.net, hlatch [at] cox.net, v010101 [at] cox.net, attagirl51 [at] cox.net, ael [at] cox.net, kennymc [at] cox.net, weideman [at] cox.net, tigger1989 [at] cox.net, psyd [at] cox.net, ajsmith [at] cox.net, noah [at] cox.net >Subject: Dennis needs a card >Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 22:20:21 -0200 >Message-Id: <20050504212436.JRIU8316.fed1rmgxi15.cox.net [at] APoitiers-152-1-55-238.w83-193. abo.wanadoo.fr> >X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.0.308 [266.11.4] >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-427958E21ED4=======" > > > q[1 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.4 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:46:35 -0400 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry In-Reply-To: References:

On 5/4/05, Dale Farmer wrote: > I can see it happening. If you have certain conditions, ( such as cir= rhosis > of > the liver ) a bruised liver can be fatal.=20 Why would an actor, or anyone in the theatre, have cirrhosis of the liver? Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 20:00:06 -0400 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: Tucson show In-Reply-To: References: On Tue, 03 May 2005 10:34:59, CB wrote: =20 > So, Jerry, willya teach me to blow stuff up good in exchange for slave > labor? It's "blow stuff up REAL good" Chris. Brian Munrie bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:22:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hey don't laugh! I just worked with a Local 2 electrician named Alky! He's a great guy but I had to work to keep up with him after the call. It's his given name by the way. :) -H On 5/4/05 7:46 PM, "Brian Munroe" wrote: > > Why would an actor, or anyone in the theatre, have cirrhosis of the liver? > > Brian Munroe > bpmunroe [at] gmail.com > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050505003422.85164.qmail [at] web52005.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 17:34:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jacqueline Haney Kidwell Subject: cirrhosis, was Re: Question about The Mousetrap...sorry In-Reply-To: 6667 Alcoholism is not the only possible cause of cirrhosis. My mother had it from a severe case of hepatitis during high school. It probably started the damage that resulted in the liver cancer which metastasized and killed her. Jacki --- Brian Munroe wrote: > Why would an actor, or anyone in the theatre, have > cirrhosis of the liver? __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 17:46:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Indeed, we used to put coke in a can and nails and it cleaned them up just right. Youthfully, in the 30's that is. Doom -- Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. - www.riskit.com Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Nelson Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:55 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Mercury thermometers etc. (was Re: old gasoline disposal) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- >> Ever do the experiment with a tooth in a glass >> of Coke? Didn't last too long. > > This was discussed here not too long ago - covered on Mythbusters. They > did > the tooth-in-Coke thing (and lots of other urban legends surrounding > Coke's > ability to do lots of stuff) - and other than staining the tooth, it > didn't > do squat. Coke, and other sodas, used to eat away a tooth in a jar fairly rapidly. But that was before the carbonation and citric acid were cut way down. The modern sodas are insipid compared to those of even the 60s. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:07:38 -0700 From: Ronald Thevenot Reply-To: rkt [at] ronniethevenot.com Subject: Re: Tucson show In-Reply-To: References: "Aside from drinking lots of water=20 and taking hats and long sleeve shirts, any other suggestions?" Sorry I am a little late in the thread but it is very important to be aware that the Tucson sun will burn you through a normal thin long sleeve shirt. On the other hand, if you wear a thick dark shirt you will get very hot. Maybe trade in the long sleeves for some short sleeves and some sweat proof sunscreen applied every couple of hours. Do you know where in Tucson you will be working? I live around Tucson, and would love to be able to help you out in the afternoons. However, I have no experience and am under 18 although I am good at following directions, can endure the dry heat and don't complain much. Oh yes, I would help for very little pay (or probably for free). "If you like aircraft, there's the Pima Air Museum and the Aircraft Graveyard on the south side of town." The Pima Air Museum is one of the few in the country that has a SR-71 (aka Black Bird) on display, a retired spy plane capable or traveling over mach 3. Very good display of planes, although July isn't always the best time to visit. Ronald Thevenot rkt [at] ronniethevenot.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050504185447.029d5ab8 [at] localhost> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:03:16 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Tucson show In-Reply-To: References:

At 06:07 PM 5/4/2005, you wrote: >"Aside from drinking lots of water >and taking hats and long sleeve shirts, any other suggestions?" > >Sorry I am a little late in the thread but it is very important to be >aware that the Tucson sun will burn you through a normal thin long >sleeve shirt. On the other hand, if you wear a thick dark shirt you >will get very hot. Maybe trade in the long sleeves for some short >sleeves and some sweat proof sunscreen applied every couple of hours. Light shirt AND sunscreen? I CAN go for a week on the island of Kaua`i with no sunscreen at all, I normally don't get burned. That should help. >Do you know where in Tucson you will be working? Not yet. Private party. >I live around Tucson, and would love to be able to help you out in the >afternoons. However, I have no experience and am under 18 Experience isn't required for a lot of the work, but under 18 == terrorist. We can't let you anywhere near the site. Same for people who have ever had a felony conviction (a friend had an auto-crash related one when he was a teen about 35 years ago...that counts). And, of course, there's the government blacklist (we turn in names, they get to say no). US citizenship required. Funny thing, these same rules apply to the airbag actuator in your car. Ref: ATF "Orange Book", page 57, question 27 and "27 CFR 55.32". So, anyone allowing a youth, foreigner, or felon anywhere near a car with airbags is committing a felony (up to 20 years in jail). Our ATF agent agreed that's sort of silly since SHE doesn't have an ATF permit but her car has airbags. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000a01c55130$b0e78490$6501a8c0 [at] D4D3R151> From: "Randy Whitcomb" References:

Subject: Re: Tucson show Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 23:09:59 -0600 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Durand" > Light shirt AND sunscreen? I CAN go for a week on the island of Kaua`i > with no sunscreen at all, I normally don't get burned. That should help. Here at 5k feet, the sun is about 15% more intense than at sea level. I'm comfortable in short sleeves on a sunny 40 degree day here, but then I grew up on the shore of Lake Ontario. Randy Whitcomb, TD Price Civic Aud. Loveland, CO. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:21:32 +0100 From: Tony Miller Reply-To: Tony Miller Subject: Re: Suggestions for Rome? In-Reply-To: References: You must come to the museum. Here there are daily displays of all sorts of swordfighting as well as all forms of riding skills from Tudor through to Japanese horse archery and all of it historically accurate. It also has a gallery devoted to the tournament It is based in Leeds (which is in the North of England for you left ponders) but has shows all over the UK all through the summer. There is a website detailing female involvement at but I can't vouch for it. Tony Miller On 5/4/05, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: >=20 > Evidently not. Boudicca I know about: women in tournaments I don't. A sou= rce > for further information would be of interest. >=20 > Frank Wood > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #387 *****************************