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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 22667923; Sat, 28 May 2005 03:01:26 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #410 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 03:01:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #410 1. light control louvers by Judy 2. Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed by Bill Sapsis 3. Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 4. Re: refurbished theatre seats by "Steve Jones" 5. Re: Patch boxes by Dale Farmer 6. Re: refurbished theatre seats by Bruce Purdy 7. Re: Patch boxes by "Bill Nelson" 8. Subject: refurbished theatre seats by "Bill Conner" 9. Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed by MissWisc [at] aol.com 10. Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 11. Re: refurbished theatre seats by "Jon Ares" 12. Re: Making vinyl records by "Paul Guncheon" 13. Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple by "Michael Wade" 14. Re: refurbished theatre seats by "Steve Jones" 15. Marquee parts... by "Steve Jones" 16. Re: Making vinyl records by Mike Katz 17. Re: refurbished theatre seats by Mike Katz 18. Re: Making vinyl records by Stephen Litterst 19. Re: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple by Jason Romney 20. Re: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple by "Michael S. Eddy" 21. Re: refurbished theatre seats by Steve Larson 22. Re: refurbished theatre seats by Dale Farmer 23. Re: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple by "Michael Wade" 24. Re: refurbished theatre seats by Stephen Litterst 25. Re: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple by Stephen Litterst 26. Re: refurbished theatre seats by "Secore, Scott" 27. Re: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple by David Marks 28. New e-mail address by Michael Powers 29. New e-mail address by Michael Powers 30. Re: refurbished theatre seats by "Steve Jones" 31. Little Shop: adding color to latex? by "Storms, Randy" 32. Re: Little Shop: Doh! by "Storms, Randy" 33. Re: refurbished theatre seats by Steve Larson 34. Question about Strand Lekos by Brian Hatfield 35. Re: refurbished theatre seats by Wood Chip-P26398 36. Re: refurbished theatre seats by Dale Farmer 37. Re: refurbished theatre seats by David Carrico 38. Re: refurbished theatre seats by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 39. Re: refurbished theatre seats by Wood Chip-P26398 40. Re: Patch boxes by CB 41. Re: Patch boxes by CB 42. Re: Patch boxes by CB 43. Re: Making vinyl records by Brian Munroe 44. Anti-Spam Question by "Jeremiah Minh Greenblatt" 45. lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bit resolution by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 46. Re: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bit resolution by "Fitch, Tracy" 47. Re: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bit resolution by John McKernon 48. Re: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bitresolution by Jerry Durand 49. Re: FW: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bitresolution by Tracy Fitch 50. Re: Making vinyl records by Greg Williams 51. Re: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bitresolution by Richard Bakos 52. Re: Patch boxes by Greg Bierly 53. Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed by Bill Sapsis 54. Re: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple by Bill Sapsis 55. Re: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bitresolution by Jerry Durand 56. Re: Question about Strand Lekos by "Bill Nelson" 57. Re: Patch boxes by "Bill Nelson" 58. Re: Patch boxes by "Andy Leviss" 59. Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed by James Feinberg *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <42970B4D.5050903 [at] post.tau.ac.il> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:58:05 +0200 From: Judy Subject: light control louvers > > >> I am looking to purchase a small quantity of 3M's >> Slanted Light Control Film. It is a plastic sheet with >> microlouvers embedded inside. It is used to direct >> light in a certain direction. > > Is that the stuff they used in Miss Saigon? I remember in London they had a problem with the multitude of led indicators from color scrollers etc.hung over the stage, so the audience looking up saw a forest of tiny winking lights. They didn't want to tape over them because the electricians needed to see them. So they put some kind of plastic stuff on them which directed the light only to the stage and not to the audience. It doesn't sound as complicated or expensive as what you're talking about, though. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:20:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: To be blunt, Compiling this type of a document is not only extremely expensive, the liability ramifications are considerable. We put books like this together but we cannot afford to give them away. Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html on 5/26/05 8:44 AM, Carolyn Giles at carolyn.giles [at] 7hills.org wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi: > > I am currently planning for a technical theatre safety orientation for > middle and high school students in the fall and am in need of a manual > that anyone would be willing to share. A digital version is preferable. > A hard copy can be faxed - 513-527-1304 or mailed to me at: > > > Carolyn E. Giles > Chair, Fine and Performing Arts > The Seven Hills School > 5400 Red Bank Road > Cincinnati, OH 45227 > 513-272-5390 > > Thanks in advance, > Cg > ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:58:26 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c562b3$685583f0$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > To be blunt, Compiling this type of a document is not only > extremely expensive, the liability ramifications are > considerable. We put books like this together but we cannot > afford to give them away. Bill, I'm wondering if there's a safe (in terms both of liability and life-and-limb) way to do a basic guidelines type of thing. In other woids, while there would certainly be liability attached in, say, writing a manual on driving an 18-wheeler, I can't see where there's any liability in saying, "look both ways before you cross the street". ...Or am I just a dreamer? ------------------------------ From: "Steve Jones" Subject: RE: refurbished theatre seats Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:43:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not sure about grandfathering or not - but I do know our 1930's seats do NOT automatically fold up. Another reason why putting seat plaques on the front edge of the seat wouldn't work (even if there was a surface there to mount to - which there is not). Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 651-2511 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.com --------------------------------------------------- OK, I know that Doom is either a: lurking or b: moving, but I'll venture a question here about the seats. Don't all modern seats have to come up when you drag your butt out of that seat? If that is the case, wouldn't the refurbished seats have to meet that criteria as well? Or, are they grandfathered in? If the refurbished seats have to meet modern safety criteria, they could be refurbished with a fastening place on the front of the seat for the numbering. As far as numbering goes, let's really challenge our audiences (and ushers) and assign the seats random numbers!! That would be a lot of fun to watch (for about one show). ;>) David K. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <429719DE.9AB65026 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:00:14 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Patch boxes References:

Bill Nelson wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > One breakout and one breakin will do for a start. We have two breakouts in > our theatre and I have wished I had three a few times. We also have a > stage box that has the multipin connector on one end - so it also can be > fed through the multicore cable. > > Bill The other consideration is to find your preferred local sound gear rental house and use the same multipin connectors that they use. This allows you to add in more compatible pieces for a particular gig, for relatively low cost and hassle. --Dale ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:23:54 -0400 Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: >> Don't all modern seats have to come up when you drag your butt out of that >> seat? If that is the case, wouldn't the refurbished seats have to meet that >> criteria as well? Or, are they grandfathered in? > Not sure about grandfathering or not - but I do know our 1930's seats do NOT > automatically fold up. There are also seats out there, mostly in movie theatres (1960's era?) that are not designed to rise up. They are "Rockers", and rather than the seat rising, it slides back. When you sit down, the seat slides forward and the back tips back a bit. In my experience, these rarely rock back on their own. Theoretically, when you stand up, the back of your leg pushes the seat back. *Theoretically*. I used to find lots of them left forward. I have a set of these in my living room, from when one of my former Theatres was demolished. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1265.64.28.53.133.1117201297.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Patch boxes From: "Bill Nelson" > The other consideration is to find your preferred local sound gear > rental > house and use the same multipin connectors that they use. This allows you > to add in more compatible pieces for a particular gig, for relatively low > cost and hassle. We rarely use outside sound services - most renters use the house system. When a rental house does a gig, they bring a snake and install their own run from the stage to FOH. No multipin connectors - just multistrand cable with fanouts on both ends (or a stage box at one end). In such cases, they do not use any of the house system at all. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001301c562c4$34538cd0$6b01a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Subject: refurbished theatre seats Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:58:44 -0500 David R. Krajec posted: Don't all modern seats have to come up when you drag your butt out of that seat? Codes require a minimum clear width in aisle accessways (the row space). The codes permit the clear space to be measured with the seat in the up position if it is self rising per the referenced ATSM standard. Codes generally apply to new construction and less frequently require retroactive changes - sprinkling of nightclubs as a result of the Station disaster being a notable exception. A major facility renovation may be of sufficient scope to require that the entire building or that area of the building be brought up to "new" standards. Simply repairing equipment - like seats - is rarely sufficient cause to prompt the "new" requirements. That being said, the Life Safety Code does, for existing places of assembly, require the minimum clear width. It has been my experience that in a renovation, especially ones involving historic buildings, that there is room to negotiate some items. For instance, if you're restoring the theatre and the original seats and it doesn't quite meet the minimum clearance with seats down but you're sprinkling the entire building and making other improvements for safety, there can be a trade off. And keep in mind that there is rarely crowd crush or crowd collapse incidents in an aisle accessway. This is based on national model codes which may or may not be adopted in your area and doesn't take into account local amendments or entire local codes. Some seat restoration projects have included retrofitting lifters to old seats. From my point of view, it's risky. Old seats were not designed for this and the hinges are typically rough castings. Lift a modern seat with it's spring removed (or without it's counterweight if gravity lift) and it moves easily. Lift a 1900 era seat and it requires much more force - and widely varying forces seat to seat. A large counterweight - which is tricky to retrofit - or a strong spring to assure all the seats rise will, result in at least a substantial portion of the seats make a pretty loud noise when they rise and no amount of bumpers will make it go away. Regards, Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:40:33 -0400 From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Subject: Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed Message-ID: <7FF24794.58254F25.007B9F2A [at] aol.com> Jeff said: <> You're a dreamer. In the USA anyone can sue for any reason. Stinks sometimes. Unkle Bill is right... best way to get safety info for a particular item is to go to the manufacturer and get their hand books/manuals. He's got some great info about rigging on his web site. As far as general safety goes, Dr. Doom has a book in the works about safety issues in the high school that he created for ISETSA. He may still be moving his household from CA to CO, but I'd bet if you ask, he'd be glad to send you the files. Kristi ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:48:25 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c562cb$26636b20$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Jeff said: < saying, "look both ways before you cross the street". ...Or > am I just a dreamer?>> > > You're a dreamer. In the USA anyone can sue for any reason. > Stinks sometimes. I didn't say one couldn't be sued (and you'll be hearing from my lawyer for claiming I did); I speculated as to whether there was any serious risk. Sorry I didn't make that clear. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003101c562cb$2eedd9b0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:48:45 -0700 > Not sure about grandfathering or not - but I do know our 1930's seats do > NOT > automatically fold up. Another reason why putting seat plaques on the > front > edge of the seat wouldn't work (even if there was a surface there to mount > to - which there is not). Hey Steve... maybe you could post a photo of one of the seats on the Stagecraft website? This way people can make suggestions that would actually be practical, rather than speculative. :) -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 05:26:40 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Making vinyl records Message-id: <005001c562d0$7babbf60$0202a8c0 [at] lastpc> References: <> Continuing in that vein, try using a bunch of mastic "trowels" attached to the stick instead of the nails. You can get cheap plastic ones that will give you a variety of widths and depths. Not sure if the grooves made this way will help with the "looking like a LP" though. I think it's more a paint thing. In my most humble opinion, painted highlights with a high gloss finish will probably be best. (High gloss ala "Diamond Gloss Varathane" or "Future" floor finish over flat black paint. I have not had great success using "gloss" paints and did not keep a stock of them.). A test may be in order. Record industry, hmmm... first a large disc with a small hole, then a small disc with a large hole, then back to a large disk with a small hole, now it's a small one with a large hole. I used the dime, penny, quarter trick as well. Some of the finer turntables (mine was by "Airline", the electronics line of Montgomery Ward & Co.) had no adjustment to balance the tone arm. I seem to remember 3 speeds... 16-1/2 (?), 45, and 33-1/3 r.p.m. Never ever had a 16-1/2 r.p.m. record though. Laters, Paul "Have I been emasculated?" Tom demanded. ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Michael Wade" Subject: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:49:15 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c562d3$a70a0380$0100a8c0 [at] Mike> In-Reply-To: Hi all. My wife and I recently started using Quicken to keep on top of our finances, but soon we will be apart (summer stock calls) and we really want to keep up with the data entry while not at the same computer. My question: Has anyone on the list run into this issue before? If so, what was the solution. Thanks for the help. Have a great weekend. Mike Wade Daedalus Design and Production ------------------------------ From: "Steve Jones" Subject: RE: refurbished theatre seats Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:54:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Go to the website http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.com (a temporary site) and click on Virtual Tour at top, then scroll down for some chairs (and other photos). Click a photo for a larger image. Thanks! Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 651-2511 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.com -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jon Ares Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 9:49 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > Not sure about grandfathering or not - but I do know our 1930's seats do > NOT > automatically fold up. Another reason why putting seat plaques on the > front > edge of the seat wouldn't work (even if there was a surface there to mount > to - which there is not). Hey Steve... maybe you could post a photo of one of the seats on the Stagecraft website? This way people can make suggestions that would actually be practical, rather than speculative. :) -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative www.wlhstheatre.org ------------------------------ From: "Steve Jones" Subject: Marquee parts... Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:06:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings and another question: The marquee here at the theatre has lights at the top that are incandescent that are amber and red. They achieve this color by a plastic cap that fits over the actual "bulb". (The cap may be glass - I have not yet climbed the marquee to check - access is by a 10" wide rusty steel ladder welded to the side of the marquee that goes up 30 feet above the sidewalk). Over the years, several of these caps have disappeared. I would like to find replacements somewhere. Any suggestions? I can eventually just relamp with colored "bulbs" - but I would prefer to restore the marquee historically. You can see a photo of the marquee at: http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.com/sign.html The photo is from inside the theatre and you can see the "scary" access ladder running up the marquee. The photo is from a second floor window. Thanks! Steve PS - I will be renting a boom lift to work on the marquee - not using that ladder. ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 651-2511 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:22:31 -0400 From: Mike Katz Subject: Re: Making vinyl records Actually the old record players usually had a 78 RPM speed. They were the standard flat disc before LP records came out. I taped my parents collection of greats like Paul Robeson, The Almanac Singers, Woody Guthrie, and lots of others in the 70's when record players started omitting the 78rpm speed. Scratchy but oh so satisfying. Mike snip >I seem to remember 3 speeds... >16-1/2 (?), 45, and 33-1/3 r.p.m. Never ever had a 16-1/2 r.p.m. record -- Mike Katz Technical Director MIT Theater Arts Rinaldi Tile Building 77 Mass Ave E33-101 Cambridge MA 02139 617.253.0824 mkatz [at] mit.edu "Lunacy Abounds" ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:24:38 -0400 From: Mike Katz Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats Steve, FWIW I have often seen the seat numbers on the bottom pan of sets like those. They were usually riveted on. Mike -- Mike Katz Technical Director MIT Theater Arts Rinaldi Tile Building 77 Mass Ave E33-101 Cambridge MA 02139 617.253.0824 mkatz [at] mit.edu "Lunacy Abounds" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:34:06 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Making vinyl records Message-id: <42974BFE.BFD29686 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Mike Katz wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > Actually the old record players usually had a 78 RPM speed. They > were the standard flat disc before LP records came out. I taped my > parents collection of greats like Paul Robeson, The Almanac Singers, > Woody Guthrie, and lots of others in the 70's when record players > started omitting the 78rpm speed. Scratchy but oh so satisfying. I have quite a few 78s from my childhood, including a Elmer Fudd narrating a version of the Tortoise and the Hare with accompanying book. Just can't imagine getting the same enjoyment from a CD. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <33b57a6858ea5bd44465c65d8991b02c [at] cd-romney.com> From: Jason Romney Subject: Re: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:36:14 -0400 If one of you has an always-on internet connection you could set up your computer to be a WebDAV server. Then you could put your Quicken file on the WebDAV share and password protect it. Then you could both work on it from wherever you are. This is pretty easy to set up on a Mac. I've never tried to do it on a Windows machine. Here's a how-to on setting up WebDAV on a Mac: http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2002/09/20/ical_webdav.html?page=1 Then you'll have to either get a static IP address for the server or use something like ZoneEdit.com to manage a dynamic host name for you. Also make sure the server is not behind a firewall or at least open the WebDAV port on your router's firewall. _______________________________________________________ Jason Romney Sound Design Instructor - North Carolina School of the Arts Vice Commissioner for Computing Industry - USITT Sound Commission jason [at] cd-romney.com romneyj [at] ncarts.edu http://www.ncarts.edu/ncsaprod/designandproduction/dtsdw.asp http://www.cd-romney.com On May 27, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Michael Wade wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi all. My wife and I recently started using Quicken to keep on top of > our finances, but soon we will be apart (summer stock calls) and we > really want to keep up with the data entry while not at the same > computer. > > My question: Has anyone on the list run into this issue before? If > so, > what was the solution. > > Thanks for the help. Have a great weekend. > > Mike Wade > Daedalus Design and Production > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Reply-To: From: "Michael S. Eddy" Cc: mike [at] focusnote.com Subject: RE: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:02:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: Hi all. My wife and I recently started using Quicken to keep on top of our finances, but soon we will be apart (summer stock calls) and we really want to keep up with the data entry while not at the same computer. My question: Has anyone on the list run into this issue before? If so, what was the solution. Thanks for the help. Have a great weekend. Mike Wade Daedalus Design and Production Mike, My wife used QuickBooks and had remote access setup on it, so this is really her advice: For Quicken, the manufacturer Intuit offers a free of charge system called Web Entry. Basically you setup a secured on line portfolio with Intuit and you can keep up on your Quicken entries anywhere you have internet access. Here is the link: http://www.quicken.com/webentry/ Another option is setting up full remote PC access. This lets any computer you are on sign into your main PC and actually lets you move around like you are on you main computer, however the main computer must be left on for this to work. This is the program that QuickBooks suggests, don't know if Quicken supports but you could look into it. Here is the link: http://www.mywebexpc.com/index.php My wife suggests you call Intuit directly, if you are using a licensed copy of Quicken, she has always been really pleased with their phone support and they could walk you through all your options. Customer Service for Quicken: (800) 811-8766 I hope that this helps. Best regards, Michael Eddy Michael S. Eddy Eddy Marketing & Consulting Phone: 203-798-9900 E-mail: michael [at] eddymarketing.com E-mail: mseddy2900 [at] hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:15:46 -0400 Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Judging from what I see, I believe that the brass plate held with brass brads onto the armrest looks the simplest solution. Steve > From: "Steve Jones" > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:54:51 -0500 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Go to the website http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.com (a temporary site) and > click on Virtual Tour at top, then scroll down for some chairs (and other > photos). Click a photo for a larger image. > > Thanks! > > Steve > > ************************************* > Steve Jones, Director > Plaza Theatre > 115 E. Main Street > Glasgow, KY 42141 > Voice: (270) 361-2101 > Fax: (270) 651-2511 > http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jon Ares > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 9:49 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> Not sure about grandfathering or not - but I do know our 1930's seats do >> NOT >> automatically fold up. Another reason why putting seat plaques on the >> front >> edge of the seat wouldn't work (even if there was a surface there to mount >> to - which there is not). > > > Hey Steve... maybe you could post a photo of one of the seats on the > Stagecraft website? This way people can make suggestions that would > actually be practical, rather than speculative. :) > > -- Jon Ares > Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts > www.hevanet.com/acreative > www.wlhstheatre.org > > > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42975A09.40B3E71D [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:34:01 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats References: Steve Larson wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Judging from what I see, I believe that the brass plate > held with brass brads onto the armrest looks the > simplest solution. Sounds reasonable to me, now that I've seen the pictures. One could go with stenciling them onto the floor or the cloth of the seats, but that would probably be not in keeping with the desired ambiance of the theater. Ideally, carve a recess in the armrest just deep and wide enough for the tags, and then rivet and glue them into place. --Dale ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Michael Wade" Cc: mseddy2900 [at] hotmail.com Subject: RE: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:48:33 -0400 Message-ID: <000701c562e4$51be78f0$0100a8c0 [at] Mike> In-Reply-To: Michael- Thanks for the info. As it turns out I tried the Web Entry but it is not compatible with Quicken for Mac which is what our Quicken is running on. I may end up purchasing Quicken for Widows in order to solve my issue. I had great luck with the Tech Support people as well. Thanks for the help. Mike Wade Daedalus Design and Production -----Original Message----- From: Michael S. Eddy [mailto:mseddy2900 [at] hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 1:03 PM To: 'Stagecraft'; mike [at] focusnote.com Subject: RE: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple Hi all. My wife and I recently started using Quicken to keep on top of our finances, but soon we will be apart (summer stock calls) and we really want to keep up with the data entry while not at the same computer. My question: Has anyone on the list run into this issue before? If so, what was the solution. Thanks for the help. Have a great weekend. Mike Wade Daedalus Design and Production Mike, My wife used QuickBooks and had remote access setup on it, so this is really her advice: For Quicken, the manufacturer Intuit offers a free of charge system called Web Entry. Basically you setup a secured on line portfolio with Intuit and you can keep up on your Quicken entries anywhere you have internet access. Here is the link: http://www.quicken.com/webentry/ Another option is setting up full remote PC access. This lets any computer you are on sign into your main PC and actually lets you move around like you are on you main computer, however the main computer must be left on for this to work. This is the program that QuickBooks suggests, don't know if Quicken supports but you could look into it. Here is the link: http://www.mywebexpc.com/index.php My wife suggests you call Intuit directly, if you are using a licensed copy of Quicken, she has always been really pleased with their phone support and they could walk you through all your options. Customer Service for Quicken: (800) 811-8766 I hope that this helps. Best regards, Michael Eddy Michael S. Eddy Eddy Marketing & Consulting Phone: 203-798-9900 E-mail: michael [at] eddymarketing.com E-mail: mseddy2900 [at] hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:50:42 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats Message-id: <42975DF2.B12D4B83 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Dale Farmer wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > Ideally, carve a recess in the armrest just deep and wide > enough for the tags, and then rivet and glue them into place. Heck, shoot for the moon. Get templates/gobos made up for each seat number and hang Source4s focused on each seat. Include sensors that read when the seat is occupied and turn that unit off so the patron isn't blinded. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:51:43 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple Message-id: <42975E2F.777B3A14 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Michael Wade wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > I may end up > purchasing Quicken for Widows in order to solve my issue. Quicken for Widows? Expecting a rough summer, Mike? Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Subject: RE: refurbished theatre seats Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:05:14 -0400 Message-ID: <346414591B50EE4299DB6686321B8CC701D2928D [at] FACSTAFF.facultystaff.eku.edu> From: "Secore, Scott" Ok, normally I don't say much on this list, but that's the best idea I've heard so far. I like it. -Scott TTS EKU >Steve L wrote: >Heck, shoot for the moon. Get templates/gobos made up for each seat number and hang Source4s focused on each seat. Include sensors that read when the seat is occupied and turn that unit off so the patron isn't blinded.< ------------------------------ Message-ID: <429762B5.4030700 [at] comcast.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:11:01 -0400 From: David Marks Subject: Re: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple References: In-Reply-To: Stephen Litterst wrote: > Quicken for Widows? Expecting a rough summer, Mike? Don't let my wife know about that version...I may have to hire a food taster and start counting the knives..... dave marks ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1117217623.4297635799532 [at] mail-www2.oit.umass.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:13:43 -0400 From: Michael Powers Subject: New e-mail address References: In-Reply-To: As many of you already know (and the rest probably don't care!) :-) I am moving on from UMass so this address will shut down sometime in the near future. 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Please change my address to either: mptecdir [at] aol.com or mptecdir [at] gmail.com Michael Michael Powers, ------------------------------ From: "Steve Jones" Subject: RE: refurbished theatre seats Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:31:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Naw - I'd rather opt to install a remote controlled 1"x2" LCD screen recessed in the arms so I can program the seat number to be different as needed. Could also sell ad space on them to sposnors. *grin* Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 651-2511 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.com -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Secore, Scott Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 1:05 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Ok, normally I don't say much on this list, but that's the best idea I've heard so far. I like it. -Scott TTS EKU >Steve L wrote: >Heck, shoot for the moon. Get templates/gobos made up for each seat number and hang Source4s focused on each seat. Include sensors that read when the seat is occupied and turn that unit off so the patron isn't blinded.< ------------------------------ Subject: Little Shop: adding color to latex? Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:36:09 -0700 Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B7323AC8 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu> From: "Storms, Randy" Hey all - we are staging "Noises Off" next Fall, and are preparing to = mold the head of a fire axe from latex rubber. My question is; can we = mix pigment (like latex paint) with the rubber prior to molding, or must = we paint it after the fact? Also, if anyone has a hot lead on a dentist's chair.... Any/all help is appreciated -=20 Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Little Shop: Doh! Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:38:59 -0700 Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B7323AC9 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu> From: "Storms, Randy" Doh! Realized after I posted that the subject line might confuse people = - obviously, we are preparing for both Noises Off *and* Little Shop. Cheers, -- r. Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Storms, Randy Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:36 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Little Shop: adding color to latex? For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hey all - we are staging "Noises Off" next Fall, and are preparing to = mold the head of a fire axe from latex rubber. My question is; can we = mix pigment (like latex paint) with the rubber prior to molding, or must = we paint it after the fact? Also, if anyone has a hot lead on a dentist's chair.... Any/all help is appreciated -=20 Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:50:32 -0400 Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: The stencilling on the floor may not be visible unless you have a superior house light system. Those shadows can be a problem and older patrons with bad eyesight may be confused and lost. Steve > From: Dale Farmer > Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:34:01 -0400 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Steve Larson wrote: > >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Judging from what I see, I believe that the brass plate >> held with brass brads onto the armrest looks the >> simplest solution. > > Sounds reasonable to me, now that I've seen the pictures. > One could go with stenciling them onto the floor or the cloth > of the seats, but that would probably be not in keeping with > the desired ambiance of the theater. > Ideally, carve a recess in the armrest just deep and wide > enough for the tags, and then rivet and glue them into place. > > > --Dale > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050527190046.23076.qmail [at] web81008.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:00:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hatfield Subject: Question about Strand Lekos Here at the Eau Claire Regional Arts Center we have a number of Strand Lekos bought in 1989 Manufascturer number 2212 and 2216. Due to the fact that we have no money we have to fix them does anyone have an exploded view picture of them that they could email me. That being said when we focus these lekos to get a hard edge on them after they are bench focused we have about a quarter to half an inch of movement left on the lense train. Is this correct or did some idiot put the wrong lense in the fixture? Much appreciation for answers. Brian Hatfield I took the road less traveled now where the heck am I? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014D202957F6D8118924000F20D7342B06CE2C63 [at] az33exm01.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: refurbished theatre seats Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:23:39 -0700 All you squints have it wrong, use an audio system that detects when a patron is near (IR, RFID, Bluetooth?) and politely announces that they have arrived at seat such and such. No clothing to get snagged or eyesight to worry about. You could even announce that this seat was dedicated to "Mary Jones" or include a promo for the next show after they sit down. Just think of the hub-bub that the cast will hear pre-curtain. It would easily lend itself to randomly changing seat designations from show to show. Maybe even from act to act :>) Chip Wood -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Steve Larson The stencilling on the floor may not be visible unless you have a superior house light system. Those shadows can be a problem and older patrons with bad eyesight may be confused and lost. Steve ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42977988.993BE4E6 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:48:24 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats References: Wood Chip-P26398 wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > All you squints have it wrong, use an audio system that detects when a patron is near (IR, RFID, Bluetooth?) and politely announces that they have arrived at seat such and such. No clothing to get snagged or eyesight to worry about. You could even announce that this seat was dedicated to "Mary Jones" or include a promo for the next show after they sit down. Just think of the hub-bub that the cast will hear pre-curtain. > > It would easily lend itself to randomly changing seat designations from show to show. Maybe even from act to act :>) > > Chip Wood > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Steve Larson > > The stencilling on the floor may not be visible unless you have a superior house light system. Those shadows can be a problem and older patrons with bad eyesight may be confused and lost. > > Steve If you stencil the cloth of the seats with some of the UV reactive pigments for the numbers. Then some UV lamps and bob's your uncle. Patrons can find their seat and get a tan at the same time. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1964cf3b05052713035d942ca7 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:03:31 -0400 From: David Carrico Reply-To: David Carrico Subject: Re: refurbished theatre seats In-Reply-To: References: Why not just take out the seats and make it General Admission/Standing Room Only? Just like the good ol' days at Louisville Gardens with Sammy Hagar and Krokus, Dio and Dokken, et. al.? Man, I miss my mullet! Dave Carrico ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Cc: daveffreep [at] gmail.com ('David Carrico') Subject: RE: refurbished theatre seats Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:08:07 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c562f7$cfc78210$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Why not just take out the seats and make it General > Admission/Standing Room Only? Just like the good ol' days at > Louisville Gardens with Sammy Hagar and Krokus, Dio and > Dokken, et. al.? Or like the bad old days with The Who at the Riverfront Colosseum in Cincinatti. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014D202957F6D8118924000F20D7342B06CE2D82 [at] az33exm01.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: refurbished theatre seats Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:15:55 -0700 Because the wife gets pissed when I am that close to other females and the kids would get crushed. You can't go home again. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey E. Salzberg > Why not just take out the seats and make it General Admission/Standing > Room Only? Just like the good ol' days at Louisville Gardens with > Sammy Hagar and Krokus, Dio and Dokken, et. al.? Or like the bad old days with The Who at the Riverfront Colosseum in Cincinatti. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050527140120.017125b0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:01:20 From: CB Subject: Re: Patch boxes >See what RS Components has to offer, or Farnell. I am long enough out of the >business not to have current catalogues. AAAAAUUUUGGGGHHHHH!!!! >For custom panels, consider having the connectors inclined at 45 or 60 >degrees. This will save a lot of space. DITTO!!!!! (See Pythagoras) Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050527141331.017125b0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:13:31 From: CB Subject: RE: Patch boxes >Does that sorta tell you why I'd like to put a fixed multicore in >instead....? You'd have to run that cable somewhere if'n you wanted to put in a fixed panel, eh? I was suggesting that you terminate the run in a mass connector (like the ones on, say, this site ) and havethe tails on a mass connector as well. This way, when the room is used for a band, you just hook up the connector and the run stays in the wallwhere it always is (or through the ceiling, whatever. I'm just saying that instead of terminating whatever lines you;re running at a connector panel, you terminate at a much smaller and neater (and easier to hide) mass connector, and hook up a box whenever you need it. As I said in the earlier post, since the box isn't actually hardwired in that room, with the addition of a coupla mass connectors and some extra multi-core, you could expand to two or three new locations in addition to this one room. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050527141828.017125b0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:18:28 From: CB Subject: Re: Patch boxes > I was just trying to describe what I >believed CB was referring to, as opposed to running a multicore snake >every time down the hall like you thought he was proposing. Thanks, you got it, even better than my second attempt. What he says. The mass connector may be used for just that one app, but it WILL make that one app. far nicer. And who's to say you won't ever need to expand or things will never change? I thought once I left he UK I'd no longer need the English-to-English translation services... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:24:41 -0400 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: Making vinyl records In-Reply-To: References: On 5/27/05, Paul Guncheon wrote: > I seem to remember 3 speeds... When switching from 45 singles to LPs, I would often forget to change the speed of the table, resulting in the chipmonks singing Led Zeppelin. Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Jeremiah Minh Greenblatt" Subject: Anti-Spam Question Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:41:31 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c5630d$3ac60db0$0200a8c0 [at] ROADHAT> Folks, Has anyone had any success getting the anti-spam feature in Norton Internet Security 2005 to recognize messages from the Stagecraft list without having to approve each individual sender? Simply designating theatrical.net as an approved domain doesn't seem to do the trick. Please, in the name of bandwidth, feel free to reply off-list. Please also refrain from scolding my stupid purchase, the inferiority of Windows, or the supremacy of other programs - this is the one I've got and I'm trying to make it work. Thanks all. - J.Minh jmg [at] roadhat.net ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bit resolution Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:15:39 -0400 Message-Id: <20050527231542.KLIN16985.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> Dear lighting console gurus, When controlling LEDs with an 8-bit dimmer, the bottom end of the range is often noticeably quantized. It's fairly easy to gang two DMX channels together to drive a dimmer with 16-bit resolution, provided there are consoles that make it easy at the control end. I don't know which consoles can do this. Is it possible with an "ETC Expression 3" or "ETC Express Model"? (I'm quoting someone else on these model names, so I don't know if they are valid.) Presuming that moving lights need high resolution for various functions (like, say, mirror position) I imagine that 16-bit channels (or higher) must be a fairly common. Am I right? Is it easy to "characterize a new instrument" that would be a 16-bit dimmer? Implemented correctly, one channel would be "coarse", the other "fine", with the fine channel providing 256 levels of resolution within each increment of the coarse channel. This provides 65,535 levels. LEDs will then look great. (I realize they'd look great with just 9-bits or resolution, but it's easiest to work with 8-bit channels.) Your comments, help, and advice are greatly appreciated! Jim www.theatrewireless.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bit resolution Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:35:29 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Fitch, Tracy" In short, yes. You would just use the personality editor available with the offline editor to create an automated fixture personality that just has the appropriate 16 bit value as an intensity control. Then you would load that into the console and address the LED as an automated fixture. --Tracy S. Fitch; TD, UNC Charlotte; LD, Everywhere Else; Computer Geek, Pretty Much Universally=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf=20 > Of Jim at TheatreWireless.com >=20 > I don't know which consoles can do this. Is it possible with=20 > an "ETC Expression 3" or "ETC Express Model"? (I'm quoting=20 > someone else on these model names, so I don't know if they are valid.) >=20 > Presuming that moving lights need high resolution for various=20 > functions (like, say, mirror position) I imagine that 16-bit=20 > channels (or higher) must be a fairly common. Am I right? =20 > Is it easy to "characterize a new instrument" that would be a=20 > 16-bit dimmer? >=20 > Implemented correctly, one channel would be "coarse", the=20 > other "fine", with the fine channel providing 256 levels of=20 > resolution within each increment of the coarse channel. This=20 > provides 65,535 levels. LEDs will then look great. (I=20 > realize they'd look great with just 9-bits or resolution, but=20 > it's easiest to work with 8-bit channels.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:59:21 -0400 Subject: Re: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bit resolution From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > In short, yes. You would just use the personality editor available with > the offline editor to create an automated fixture personality that just > has the appropriate 16 bit value as an intensity control. Then you > would load that into the console and address the LED as an automated > fixture. Unless of course, you're using an Obsession, which has fixture personalities, but doesn't do real 16-bit crossfades. I don't know whether the Expression or Express do proper 16-bit crossfades or not. - John ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527171926.0667ae90 [at] localhost> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:22:38 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bitresolution In-Reply-To: References: At 04:59 PM 5/27/2005, you wrote: >Unless of course, you're using an Obsession, which has fixture >personalities, but doesn't do real 16-bit crossfades. I don't know whether >the Expression or Express do proper 16-bit crossfades or not. I've got 16-bit fades on my to-do list for our controller. A couple of questions for the list: How important is it that I get in gear and add 16 bit fades? Since our controller doesn't have a lot of spare processing power, how many 16-bit channels (minimum) should I try to support? Will the 16-bit channels have to be randomly assigned throughout the 512 channel universe, or can they all be blocked together (like all channels over a certain number are 16-bit)? ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:39:44 -0400 From: Tracy Fitch Reply-To: Tracy Fitch Subject: Re: FW: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bitresolution In-Reply-To: References: Jerry Durand wrote: > How important is it that I get in gear and add 16 bit fades? It depends on what markets you're moving into. If you expect your controller to be used on automated fixtures, then I would say it is pretty important. Most everything new seems to have 16bit pan and tilt at least. > Since our controller doesn't have a lot of spare processing power, how ma= ny=20 > 16-bit channels (minimum) should I try to support? That's a tough question. Figure an average (older) fixture uses 12-14 dmx channels of which 2 are likely 16 bit. Newer things use many more. If you don't want anyone to ever run out of 16bit attributes, that'd be about 42 to be safe. But that number seems insanely high.=20 So, WAG time -- uhh, how about 20? That's a good round ten fixtures assuming two 16bit DMX attributes per fixture. > Will the 16-bit channels have to be randomly assigned throughout the 512= =20 > channel universe, or can they all be blocked together (like all channels= =20 > over a certain number are 16-bit)? That one's easy. They absolutely must be able to be randomly assigned. Automated fixtures generally deal in blocks of DMX addresses and you don't get to reassign things within that block. --Tracy Fitch; TD, UNC Charlotte; LD, Everywhere Else; Computer Geek, Universally ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Williams Subject: Re: Making vinyl records Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:00:26 -0400 Way back when I was a DJ, we found that several Atlanta Rhythm Section songs on LP, most notably "So Into You", when played at 45 rpm, sounded remarkably like Stevie Nicks. -=Greg Williams=- On May 27, 2005, at 6:24 PM, Brian Munroe wrote: > When switching from 45 singles to LPs, I would often forget to change > the speed of the table, resulting in the chipmonks singing Led > Zeppelin. > > Brian Munroe > bpmunroe [at] gmail.com > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4297E177.1080805 [at] StudioOneSB.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:11:51 -0500 From: Richard Bakos Organization: Studio One Inc. Subject: Re: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bitresolution References: In-Reply-To: How often do you update the date going out anyway? Is every output cycle potentially different or is the math update less frequently than the dmx rate? Jerry Durand wrote: > Since our controller doesn't have a lot of spare processing power, how > many 16-bit channels (minimum) should I try to support? -- Richard Bakos President Studio One Inc. 25833 State Road 2 South Bend, In 46619-4736 VOICE 574-232-9084 FAX 574-232-2220 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com www.StudioOnesb.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <46dd69f4aac654e9009ccad2cfd202c0 [at] dejazzd.com> From: Greg Bierly Subject: Re: Patch boxes Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:21:14 -0400 > We rarely use outside sound services - most renters use the house > system. > When a rental house does a gig Again I think you misunderstood the point. If you have a local rental house that uses a multipin connector breakout, then you have access to a spare if some idiot runs a roadbox over your breakout and severs the cable 2 hours before curtain. Or you could return the favor if the rental house needs an extra breakout when yours is sitting idle. It can be beneficial when you can help out the local rental house. You will almost never have the same connector as a renter or touring company and if it is the pin outs could be different. Even if the heavens are in alignment the touring engineer likely wouldn't consider using houselines. ;-) Greg Bierly Technical Director Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:13:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: It would be great if it were that simple. But a manual, to have any real impact and usefulness, has to go a lot deeper than "Look both ways before you move that line set." If you are looking for something that superficial, you can get that sort of thing from the manufacturers and put the book together yourself. Where you run into trouble is when you make the manual more site specific and start dealing with specific issues concerning a specific facility. If you say something wrong and someone gets hurt. You get nailed, and rightfully so. If you say something right and someone still gets hurt, you still get nailed. If you overlook something, you get nailed. The litigious nature of this country kind of forces you to A) Be very, very thorough or B) Don't get involved. I still prefer the very thorough method, but it's not cheap. All that research is done by staff people who, strangely enough, really do expect a paycheck at the end of the week. When we fly out to do a site visit, the airlines expect us to actually pay for those plane tickets. Ya know? Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html on 5/27/05 7:58 AM, Jeffrey E. Salzberg at stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >> To be blunt, Compiling this type of a document is not only >> extremely expensive, the liability ramifications are >> considerable. We put books like this together but we cannot >> afford to give them away. > > Bill, I'm wondering if there's a safe (in terms both of liability and > life-and-limb) way to do a basic guidelines type of thing. > > In other woids, while there would certainly be liability attached in, say, > writing a manual on driving an 18-wheeler, I can't see where there's any > liability in saying, "look both ways before you cross the street". > > ...Or am I just a dreamer? > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:17:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Financial Software For The Country Apart Couple From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I and my ex have been using Quicken to track the kids expenses for years now. I keep the master and we use e-mail to keep current. Works well for us. Bill www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html on 5/27/05 1:02 PM, Michael S. Eddy at mseddy2900 [at] hotmail.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi all. My wife and I recently started using Quicken to keep on top of > our finances, but soon we will be apart (summer stock calls) and we > really want to keep up with the data entry while not at the same > computer. > > My question: Has anyone on the list run into this issue before? If so, > what was the solution. > > Thanks for the help. Have a great weekend. > > Mike Wade > Daedalus Design and Production > > Mike, > > My wife used QuickBooks and had remote access setup on it, so this is really > her advice: > > For Quicken, the manufacturer Intuit offers a free of charge system called > Web Entry. Basically you setup a secured on line portfolio with Intuit and > you can keep up on your Quicken entries anywhere you have internet access. > Here is the link: http://www.quicken.com/webentry/ > > Another option is setting up full remote PC access. This lets any computer > you are on sign into your main PC and actually lets you move around like you > are on you main computer, however the main computer must be left on for this > to work. This is the program that QuickBooks suggests, don't know if Quicken > supports but you could look into it. Here is the link: > http://www.mywebexpc.com/index.php > > My wife suggests you call Intuit directly, if you are using a licensed copy > of Quicken, she has always been really pleased with their phone support and > they could walk you through all your options. Customer Service for Quicken: > (800) 811-8766 > > I hope that this helps. > > Best regards, > > Michael Eddy > > Michael S. Eddy > Eddy Marketing & Consulting > > Phone: 203-798-9900 > E-mail: michael [at] eddymarketing.com > E-mail: mseddy2900 [at] hotmail.com > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <816B2ED9-0BD4-4037-BBCA-F60F47F8D08F [at] interstellar.com> From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bitresolution Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:45:24 -0700 On May 27, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Richard Bakos wrote: > How often do you update the date going out anyway? Is every output > cycle potentially different or is the math update less frequently > than the dmx rate? > With the current 4201, the updates range from 833 per second (with only 17 channels) down to about 35 per second (all 512 fading). Before anyone says "DMX can't go faster than 40 per second", that isn't a spec, it's a fact of life if you're updating all 512 channels. DMX updates may go out as fast as every 1196uS (836 times a second). For cheap dimmers, we allow the user to limit the update speed anywhere from 1 per second to 255 per second. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <26037.69.59.200.119.1117257690.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Question about Strand Lekos From: "Bill Nelson" > view picture of them that they could email me. That > being said when we focus these lekos to get a hard > edge on them after they are bench focused we have > about a quarter to half an inch of movement left on > the lense train. Is this correct or did some idiot > put the wrong lense in the fixture? Did you try the Strand web site? Their tech support might be able to help. Your lens may be focusing correctly. I would be concerned if sharp edge focus were at one end or the other of the lens barrel travel. You should be able to soften the focus by going either inside or outside of focus - which should be somewhere close to midway in the adjustable range. The resulting beam fields are different - in diameter, brightness, diffraction and intensity gradient. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <26050.69.59.200.119.1117258247.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Patch boxes From: "Bill Nelson" >> We rarely use outside sound services - most renters use the house >> system. >> When a rental house does a gig > > Again I think you misunderstood the point. If you have a local rental > house that uses a multipin connector breakout, then you have access to > a spare if some idiot runs a roadbox over your breakout and severs the > cable 2 hours before curtain. Or you could return the favor if the > rental house needs an extra breakout when yours is sitting idle. It > can be beneficial when you can help out the local rental house. That would be nice, but none of the local sound services do enough in our facility to justify building such a breakout. We do have two breakouts of our own - as well as a spare with a stage box on the end. So we can cover if one gets damaged. Bill ------------------------------ From: "Andy Leviss" Subject: RE: Patch boxes Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:52:16 -0400 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <000001c56330$432538a0$a19afea9 [at] AndyLeviss> In-Reply-To: Greg Bierly wrote: > You will almost never have the same connector as a renter or touring > company and if it is the pin outs could be different. Even if the > heavens are in alignment the touring engineer likely wouldn't > consider > using houselines. ;-) LOL, depends on the gig. On a large musical or a rock show, I couldn't use house lines, whether I wanted to or not. Just too big and takes too long; everything is much quicker when the tails are mounted and pre-wired in the racks and the only cable I have to run are the mults (not counting individual runs to mics/other sources and comm runs and the like). On the other hand, with the small input count of my current tour and with RF located at FOH, anytime I can use house lines, I love to. This week I'm actually using house console, lines, etc., with just my two FOH racks and two amps out of my amp rack to supplement for monitors. Makes the in and out so much simpler. Again, though, on a larger scale show I couldn't get away with it. --Andy http://onefromtheroad.com Tools, Toys, and Tales for the Theatrical Technician -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.0.0 - Release Date: 5/27/2005 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <4b8e288d68dcf7059effafac67862c46 [at] sandiego.edu> From: James Feinberg Subject: Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:24:48 -0700 OK, so how about a manual for writing a manual? A list of topics that someone might not immediately think to include. No answers, just a list of questions that every facility manager should learn the answers to. I bet it would be a big seller. --James Feinberg University of San Diego On May 27, 2005, at 5:13 AM, Bill Sapsis wrote: > It would be great if it were that simple. But a manual, to have any > real > impact and usefulness, has to go a lot deeper than "Look both ways > before > you move that line set." If you are looking for something that > superficial, > you can get that sort of thing from the manufacturers and put the book > together yourself. > > Where you run into trouble is when you make the manual more site > specific > and start dealing with specific issues concerning a specific facility. > If > you say something wrong and someone gets hurt. You get nailed, and > rightfully so. If you say something right and someone still gets > hurt, you > still get nailed. If you overlook something, you get nailed. > > > > on 5/27/05 7:58 AM, Jeffrey E. Salzberg at stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com > wrote: >>> To be blunt, Compiling this type of a document is not only >>> extremely expensive, the liability ramifications are >>> considerable. We put books like this together but we cannot >>> afford to give them away. >> >> Bill, I'm wondering if there's a safe (in terms both of liability and >> life-and-limb) way to do a basic guidelines type of thing. >> >> In other woids, while there would certainly be liability attached in, >> say, >> writing a manual on driving an 18-wheeler, I can't see where there's >> any >> liability in saying, "look both ways before you cross the street". >> >> ...Or am I just a dreamer? ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #410 *****************************