Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 22690159; Sun, 29 May 2005 03:01:50 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #411 Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 03:01:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #411 1. bounced messages? by ken frederickson 2. Re: bounced messages? by "Simon Shuker" 3. Re: Patch boxes by "Bill Nelson" 4. Re: bounced messages? by Steve Larson 5. Re: bounced messages? by Boyd Ostroff 6. Re: Strand 2212 and 2216 by "Karl G. Ruling" 7. Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed by Dale Farmer 8. Re: bounced messages? by Noah Price 9. Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed by Noah Price 10. Re: Making vinyl records by "Josh Ratty" 11. Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed by CB 12. Re: Making vinyl records by CB 13. Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 14. Re: Little Shop: Doh! by CB 15. Re: Making vinyl records by CB 16. Re: Patch boxes by CB 17. Re: Marquee parts... by "John Gibilisco" 18. Re: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bit resolution by Jason Tollefson 19. Re: bounced messages? by "Bill Nelson" 20. Re: bounced messages? by Jerry Durand 21. Re: Strand 2212 and 2216 by "Steve B." 22. Re: Strand 2212 and 2216 by Mike Brubaker 23. Re: Strand 2212 and 2216 by Brian Munroe 24. Re: Marquee parts... by "Steve Jones" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <20050528115156.89971.qmail [at] web50805.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 04:51:55 -0700 (PDT) From: ken frederickson Subject: bounced messages? In-Reply-To: I recieved this now a couple of times. has anyone else seen this or is it some attempt to get me to reply to a disguised email to turn me into a newt or somthing.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stagecraft messages sent to your address have bounced. Since you are reading this message, your mail system is probably fixed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Simon Shuker" Subject: RE: bounced messages? Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 16:03:12 +0400 In-reply-to: Message-Id: <20050528120319.675765869 [at] mail05.powweb.com> Can you reply in English we don't understand animal language!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of ken frederickson Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 3:52 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: bounced messages? For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I recieved this now a couple of times. has anyone else seen this or is it some attempt to get me to reply to a disguised email to turn me into a newt or somthing.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stagecraft messages sent to your address have bounced. Since you are reading this message, your mail system is probably fixed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1599.64.28.53.45.1117283559.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 05:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Patch boxes From: "Bill Nelson" > Greg Bierly wrote: >> You will almost never have the same connector as a renter or touring >> company and if it is the pin outs could be different. Even if the >> heavens are in alignment the touring engineer likely wouldn't >> consider using houselines. ;-) And with reason. I have not run across many houses where all of the channels are actually wired correctly. I recently spent over a week documenting and repairing the wiring of the local 24x4 setup at the local community theater. They have always had about 1/3rd of the channels marked as known non-functional/problematic, but they had never figured out how to fix them. Part of the problem was that each different fan-in, fan-out or stage box would give different results depending on which multipin jack to which they were connected. There are four multipin jack locations, daisy chained in the order of: tech booth, balcony, FOH and Stage Left wing. Using an ohmmeter (which is all the house tech had) was problematic - as it is too easy to get the wrong pin, short two pins etc. Nor does it show intermittant connections. I purchased a Behringer CT100 Cable Tester - one of the best low cost purchases I have ever made. By making a spreadsheet of all the possible combinations of connections and testing two wall jacks at a time, I was able to determine whether the faults were in the fixed cabling/jacks or in one (or more) of the fans/stageboxes. In a few cases, there were problems in both the fixed wiring and the portable wiring. Just about every fault you can think of appeared. The balcony jack seldom gets used, so there were even some faults which the theatre didn't know existed. For example, on a couple of circuits there was a 2/3 swap between the booth and balcony, then another 2/3 swap on the same circuit between the balcony and FOH. So these appeared to be correct when running from the booth to either FOH or SL. All the wire swaps and bad connections were easy to determine with a bit of spreadsheet analysis. The shorted connections in the house wiring were more of a pain to locate. Fortunately, all faults were at the connectors or in the tap boxes - no bad multicables. The end result is that the house, for the first time, has all circuits properly functional without any 2/3 swaps or grounded shields that sometimes cause problems and sometimes don't. As you might guess, the ground loop problems they were having disappeared as well. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:41:39 -0400 Subject: Re: bounced messages? From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I received the same thing and found that my server was down for maintenance when the message(s) were sent. Steve > From: "Simon Shuker" > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 16:03:12 +0400 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: bounced messages? > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Can you reply in English we don't understand animal > language!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of ken > frederickson > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 3:52 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: bounced messages? > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I recieved this now a couple of times. has anyone else seen this or is it > some attempt to get me to reply to a disguised email to turn me into a newt > or somthing.? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Stagecraft messages sent to your address > have bounced. > Since you are reading this message, your mail system is probably fixed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:50:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: bounced messages? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: Yeah, this has been discussed before. Happens to me from time to time for whatever reason. Just follow the instructions and don't worry about it. | Boyd Ostroff | Director of Design and Technology | Opera Company of Philadelphia | http://tech.operaphilly.com | ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:53:43 -0400 From: "Karl G. Ruling" Subject: Re: Strand 2212 and 2216 In-reply-to: Reply-to: kruling [at] esta.org Message-id: <42984DB7.3236.68EBE9 [at] localhost> > Here at the Eau Claire Regional Arts Center we have a > number of Strand Lekos bought in 1989 Manufascturer > number 2212 and 2216. Due to the fact that we have no > money we have to fix them does anyone have an exploded > view picture of them that they could email me. That > being said when we focus these lekos to get a hard > edge on them after they are bench focused we have > about a quarter to half an inch of movement left on > the lense train. Is this correct or did some idiot > put the wrong lense in the fixture? > You can see if the wrong lenses are in place or positioned improperly by simply looking at how big an area is lit by the instruments at a given throw. The 2212 uses two plano-convex lenses with 12" focal lengths installed so the convex sides are toward each other. The cut-off angle (defined by the lit circle edge with a hard focus) is about 31 degrees. So, if the lenses are installed correctly and you have the right lenses, you should be able to light a circle about 14' in diameter (the catalog says 13.7') at a throw of 25'. If you have the wrong lenses or one or both are turned around, the effective focal length of the optical system will be wrong and the size of illuminated circle will be significantly different. The 2216 uses two 16' focal length plano-convex lenses and the cut- off angle is 23 degrees. With a hard focus it should light a circle of 14' (the catalog says 13.9', but who cares about less than an inch and a quarter?) at a throw of 35'. Again, if someone stuck a 9" focal length lens in there, left a lens out, or turned a lens around, the size of the circle lit will be off. There is a good chance that your 12" and 16" lenses have been mixed up if someone decided to take apart the instruments en masse, clean all the lenses, and then put the instruments back together. The 12" lenses are thicker than the 16" lenses, but not obviously so unless a person does a side-by-side comparison. Note that the lenses go into the lens tube belly to belly. If they are installed flat back to flat back, or both facing the same way, the effective focal length of the lens pair will be changed and the cut-off angle will be different. I've worked on some shows where the lenses were deliberately mis-mounted or one removed to get a different angle. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42989733.9CCF8A8C [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:07:15 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed References:

James Feinberg wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > OK, so how about a manual for writing a manual? A list of topics that > someone might not immediately think to include. > > No answers, just a list of questions that every facility manager should > learn the answers to. > > I bet it would be a big seller. > > --James Feinberg > University of San Diego Well, that sort of thing we could bash out on the list here, and find someone to host it. --Dale ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <95676962fea95960fc3da3dfc861b45d [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Re: bounced messages? Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:18:59 -0700 On May 28, 2005, at 4:51 AM, ken frederickson wrote: > I recieved this now a couple of times. has anyone else seen this or > is it some attempt to get me to reply to a disguised email to turn me > into a newt or somthing.? >> Stagecraft messages sent to your address >> have bounced. Since you are reading this >> message, your mail system is probably fixed. That is the usual list server reply when it receives an bounce that has an error code that indicates it's permanent (some error messages tell the server to try again later and these won't generate the verification email). If you're ever concerned about whether a message claiming to be from the mail server is legitimate, you can forward it to me (with full headers if you know how) at stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net In this case Yahoo, SBC, and some related ISPs didn't like the "New e-mail address" email sent recently that had many CC addresses. I don't think there was anything wrong with the message, but it was bounced claiming the error "malformed message." I'm guessing it really exceeded their limit for addressees on a single message. Some ISPs do that to avoid spam. I reset all the addresses affected by this bounce earlier this morning when I noticed it, but you should always reply to those warnings to assure you aren't dropped from the list. I know they can be annoying, but that level of automation is necessary when managing email delivery to roughly 1000 people :-) Thanks, Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: From: Noah Price Subject: Re: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:38:46 -0700 On May 28, 2005, at 9:07 AM, Dale Farmer wrote: > James Feinberg wrote: >> OK, so how about a manual for writing a manual? A list of topics that >> someone might not immediately think to include. >> >> No answers, just a list of questions that every facility manager >> should >> learn the answers to. > Well, that sort of thing we could bash out on the list here, and > find > someone to host it. As for most even remotely Stagecraft related things (assuming we don't get into liability areas as Bill warns), I'm happy to provide hosting for this. I'm working on some enhancements that will make "group participation" things like this manual even easier. I could also add a section to the web links for facilities management, if people want to send suggested links to me directly at stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net Thanks, Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:03:30 -0400 From: "Josh Ratty" Subject: Re: Making vinyl records Message-id: <000001c563ac$9680b7f0$90016e0a [at] Rattys> References: > I know, I know, you guys are just kidding, but I did want to point out that > a dime on the tonearm is a repair akin to a penny in the fusebox. > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ So I shouldn't put pennies in the fuse box? I wish this thread had come up sooner, ummmm..., I gotta go now! Josh Ratty ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050528125342.01716440 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:53:42 From: CB Subject: RE: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed > I can't see where there's any >liability in saying, "look both ways before you cross the street". The common instruction, when I was at that level of training, was, "Look left, then right, then left again." Whatever. If you were to publish the "both ways" version, and someone got hit, thier lawyer WOULD bring up the "Left-right-eft" version, and try to blame you. Would it work? If their lawyer was better than yours, you bet it would. Yes, you could be held liable for the 'look both ways' instruction. Silly ole world we live in nowadays, init? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050528125943.01716440 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:59:43 From: CB Subject: Re: Making vinyl records > I seem to remember 3 speeds... >16-1/2 (?), 45, and 33-1/3 r.p.m. Never ever had a 16-1/2 r.p.m. record >though. And don't forget 78 RPM. 16 1/2 was pretty rare, while 78's weren't common, you can still get 'em on ebay today I haven't seen a 16 sold other than at auction in a while. Oh, and if you're going to spin the turntable, highlights may not be the way to go. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Technical Theatre Safety Manual Needed Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 15:54:32 -0400 Message-ID: <000301c563bf$14924200$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > thier lawyer WOULD bring up the "Left-right-eft" > version, and try to blame you. Would it work? If their > lawyer was better than yours, you bet it would. For that matter, even L-R-L leaves you open to liability if, say, a spaceship from Andromeda lands on someone from above. My point is that there's a point at which the likelihood of liability becomes insignificant compared to the benefit of helping (and teaching) someone. ...And I know that most of you agree with me. How do I know? Because otherwise, I wouldn't have read all the good advice that's been posted on this list over the years. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050528133305.01716440 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 13:33:05 From: CB Subject: RE: Little Shop: Doh! >Also, if anyone has a hot lead on a dentist's chair.... I have the dentist/barber chair base. Ya know, the round base with the 'foot-pump' action to raise or lower the chair? It's available, but the shipping is way dear, the thing is also the weighted base of such a chair. You want to pick it up, I'll let you use it. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050528133907.01716440 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 13:39:07 From: CB Subject: Re: Making vinyl records >Way back when I was a DJ, we found that several Atlanta Rhythm Section >songs on LP, most notably "So Into You", when played at 45 rpm, sounded >remarkably like Stevie Nicks. If you put a little bit of slippery on the belt, you'd get that perfect wow added to the mix and it'd also have her patented 'drunken billy-goat' sound. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050528134544.01716440 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 13:45:44 From: CB Subject: Re: Patch boxes >Even if the >heavens are in alignment the touring engineer likely wouldn't consider >using houselines. ;-) Ehm, just so that this particular phrase doesn't travel through a wormhole and end up across the touring universe, and as chance would have it, at my next venue, lets be clear. Yes, regardless of the alignment of the heavens, I would very likely consider using house lines, depending on what I was using them for, and just how screwed my show might be without them. When designing a new theatre space, leave lots of dry lines, and let the touring guy decide what he wants to use. Make yourcom accessable, or easy to disconnect, leaving the lines for the touring com, or a combination of both. There should be access to your cluster, even if it sucks, we may use it. Make whatever you have as accessable as possible, and as modularly re-arrangeable as you can. We'll make the decisions when we arrive, and some of them will be based on how much damage the system sustained on the last out. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001401c563df$c19a5120$0200a8c0 [at] om.cox.net> From: "John Gibilisco" References: Subject: Re: Marquee parts... Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:48:32 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Jones" Subject: Marquee parts... > > The marquee here at the theatre has lights at the top that are incandescent > that are amber and red. They achieve this color by a plastic cap that fits > over the actual "bulb". Steve, You might try Action Lighting in Bozeman Montana. My contact is Jeff Buckley. jeff [at] actionlighting.com or 1 800 248 0076. I think a version of what you are looking for is shown on their home page. www.actionlighting.com They are also listed under the Amusement /"Turbo Light" section. Not sure if they are universally compatible but it's worth looking at. John Gibilisco Omaha Playhouse ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050529002340.38492.qmail [at] web51006.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:23:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Tollefson Reply-To: jason [at] tollefsondesigns.com Subject: Re: lighting console advice - ganging channel for 16-bit resolution In-Reply-To: Keep and mind (and excuse me if you realize this already) that even if your console can gang two channels together to create 16-bit resolution, your recieving device, in this case your LED fixture, would need to be capable of understanding 16-bit control. If it only listens to one channel then your resolution isn't helped at all. In fact it may even hurt you if it listens to the second channel (picture the fixture flashing on and off spastically as you attempt a smooth cross fade). > Implemented correctly, one channel would be "coarse", the other "fine", with > the fine channel providing 256 levels of resolution within each increment of > the coarse channel. This provides 65,535 levels. LEDs will then look > great. (I realize they'd look great with just 9-bits or resolution, but > it's easiest to work with 8-bit channels.) Jason Tollefson Production Planner Disney/MGM Studios Walt Disney World, FLA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <26147.69.59.200.119.1117327518.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bounced messages? From: "Bill Nelson" > In this case Yahoo, SBC, and some related ISPs didn't like the "New > e-mail address" email sent recently that had many CC addresses. I don't > think there was anything wrong with the message, but it was bounced > claiming the error "malformed message." I'm guessing it really exceeded > their limit for addressees on a single message. Some ISPs do that to > avoid spam. And Yahoo is a real pain. Just one hard bounce - such as your email server being down, and Yahoo suspends your account. Bill ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: bounced messages? Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:27:08 -0700 On May 28, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Bill Nelson wrote: > And Yahoo is a real pain. Just one hard bounce - such as your email > server > being down, and Yahoo suspends your account. > That's why I now have a backup mail server (and several backup DNS servers). There are several companies (or more) that offer this service for a quite reasonable price. I happen to be using Noah's, since he does such a good job with the Stagecraft list. Of course, you either have to have your own domain or convince whoever provides your e-mail to set up a backup for their server. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 21:39:50 -0400 From: "Steve B." Subject: Re: Strand 2212 and 2216 Cc: kruling [at] esta.org Message-id: <001201c563ef$4e0bb1d0$6401a8c0 [at] SBFF> References: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl G. Ruling" >> Here at the Eau Claire Regional Arts Center we have a >> number of Strand Lekos bought in 1989 Manufascturer >> number 2212 and 2216. Due to the fact that we have no >> money we have to fix them does anyone have an exploded >> view picture of them that they could email me. That >> being said when we focus these lekos to get a hard >> edge on them after they are bench focused we have >> about a quarter to half an inch of movement left on >> the lense train. Is this correct or did some idiot >> put the wrong lense in the fixture? Our 2200 series have the same housing for lens barrels in the 4.5"x6 (6-1/2" ?, can no longer remember), 6x9 and 6x12's. The 6x12 finds it's hard edge with the barrel nearly all the way out of the fixture - assuming a reasonably correct lamp alignment.. I believe the 2216 was a different housing with a longer lens tube (never owned any so can't say for sure). The 4.5", 6x9 and 6x12 use interchangable lens barrels, in that you can swap 6x9 and 6x12 lenses into the same barrel. The 4.5 used a special housing for the smaller diameter lens (still using the same barrel, though). More recent designs (S4, Shakespeares as example) also use the same barrel but have markings etched into the interior of the barrel to indicate where certain lenses sit. Karl is correct that you can readily mix and match, with often undesirable results, thus you have to know how to tell the different lenses apart. One method is to hold the lens flat above a table (belly up) with a light source above. A 6x16 lense, which is thinner, focuses the point source while at a greater height off the table then a 6x12 would. A x9 is thicker still. Hope this helps. Steve B. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050528204923.044f8d00 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 20:50:12 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Strand 2212 and 2216 Cc: kruling [at] esta.org In-Reply-To: References:

Specifically, at 16", 12" and 9", probably. A fun experiment, actually! Mike At 08:39 PM 5/28/2005, Steve B. wrote: >One method is to hold the lens flat above a table (belly up) with a light >source above. A 6x16 lense, which is thinner, focuses the point source >while at a greater height off the table then a 6x12 would. A x9 is >thicker still. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:12:05 -0400 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: Strand 2212 and 2216 In-Reply-To: References:

On 5/28/05, Mike Brubaker wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Specifically, at 16", 12" and 9", probably. A fun experiment, actually! I seem to recall from my college days (SUNY Purchase, '91) a jig that would hold lenses at different heights off the bench and shine a light thru the lense. The height that resulted in a sharp focus point on the bench would indicate the lense dimension. Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Steve Jones" Subject: RE: Marquee parts... Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:49:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for the lead. They look close - if nothing else maybe a source to replace them all for a consistent look. I'll call them Tuesday and see what's up. Thanks! Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 651-2511 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.com -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of John Gibilisco Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 6:49 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Marquee parts... For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Jones" Subject: Marquee parts... > > The marquee here at the theatre has lights at the top that are incandescent > that are amber and red. They achieve this color by a plastic cap that fits > over the actual "bulb". Steve, You might try Action Lighting in Bozeman Montana. My contact is Jeff Buckley. jeff [at] actionlighting.com or 1 800 248 0076. I think a version of what you are looking for is shown on their home page. www.actionlighting.com They are also listed under the Amusement /"Turbo Light" section. Not sure if they are universally compatible but it's worth looking at. John Gibilisco Omaha Playhouse ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #411 *****************************