Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 22914875; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:00:42 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #420 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:00:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #420 1. Re: Source for Educational Discounts on Macintosh by gregg hillmar 2. Tiny fogger by "Paul Guncheon" 3. Re: Mysterious RDS luminaire by "Stephen E. Rees" 4. Re: Personnel lift recommendations? by "Derek Madonia" 5. Re: Tiny fogger by Matt DeLong 6. Re: Can you hear me now? by Wood Chip-P26398 7. Re: Can you hear me now? by Wood Chip-P26398 8. drop frame by 9. Re: Can you hear me now? by David Carrico 10. drawbridge by 11. Re: drop frame by Kyle Schoenfeld 12. Re: Can you hear me now? by Wood Chip-P26398 13. Re: Can you hear me now? by Jerry Durand 14. Re: drawbridge by Delbert Hall 15. Re: drawbridge by Delbert Hall 16. Re: drawbridge by Delbert Hall 17. Re: rookie welder: structural engineering of steel platforms by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 18. Re: [Fwd: Re: AOL workaround] by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 19. Re: Speaking of Macs... by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 20. Re: AOL workaround by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 21. Re: Can you hear me now? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 22. Re: Speaking of Macs... by Boyd Ostroff 23. Fog/haze maintenance by "Tony Deeming" 24. Re: Fog/haze maintenance by "Abby Downing" 25. Myth or Fact????? by "James, Brian" 26. Re: OT--varnish removal question by Stuart Wheaton 27. Re: Myth or Fact????? by "Fred Schoening" 28. Re: Myth or Fact????? by "James, Brian" 29. Re: Rookie Welding...structural engineering of steel platforms by "Patrick Drone" 30. Re: rookie welder: structural engineering of steel platforms by Stuart Wheaton 31. Re: Myth or Fact????? by "Tom Heemskerk" 32. Re: Soldering Iron Fog Machine by Joe *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <037F9B61-1BBF-4F85-92F7-81F31895DC56 [at] hillmardesign.com> From: gregg hillmar Subject: Re: Source for Educational Discounts on Macintosh Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 09:15:42 -0400 Get more RAM and that whould work fine... g. _____________________ gregg hillmar scenic & lighting design portfolio & life as we know it: http://www.hillmardesign.com "Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching." Satchel Paige On Jun 5, 2005, at 7:58 AM, Al Fitch wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > --------------------------------------------------- > > How does this machine sound for what I want to do > (VectorWorks and Sound Editing and possibly Final Cut > Pro)? > > You can reply off list if you think this is not > appropriate for the list to be listening to. > > Would 1200.00 be a steal of a deal for it? > > I was thinking I could get a large LCD display for > home use and have the portability of the Notebook.: > > 1.33 GHZ PowerPC G4 processor, 512K level 2 cache, 60 > GB hard drive, 256 of PC2700 DDR SDRAM, Superdrive > DVD-RCD-RW, Mac OS X. > > Al Fitch > fitchal [at] yahoo.com > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. > Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 03:58:31 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Tiny fogger Message-id: <003e01c56a9f$d3eac550$9a324104 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: <> I'm reasonably certain that it might work but at $1200.00+ (depending on where one gets it) it is certainly out of the budget. Thanks, Paul "That young insect is female," said Tom gallantly. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42A4595D.3030202 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:10:37 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Mysterious RDS luminaire References: Andy, Contact Toe Tawil at GAM in California. www.gamonline.com He was very helpful with information about the RDS lightboard in use at Teatro Nacional in Costa Rica. BTW, folks, that project - Madama Butterfly is moving along well. Returned Friday from a week in country doing some research and getting familiarized with the folks, the facility and the food. Pretty interesting stuff so far. Regards, Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia Andy Ciddor wrote: > I was recently shown a luminaire which I can't identify, > This studio is entirely equipped with some rather unusual RDS (Ryudensha > - Japan) units, ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Personnel lift recommendations? Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:05:00 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Derek Madonia" We own the JLG 25AM and are very happy with it. It's got a relatively small footprint and is easy to move around. The lift feels very stable at height with little flex. The battery lasts for the length of a work day, but not much more. The only complaint is that the lift rate is a bit slower than a Genie. Give me a call if you're in Rochester and would like a test drive! =20 ________________________________ Derek Madonia Master Electrician Geva Theatre Center (585) 232-1366 x3054 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Litterst Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:23 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Personnel lift reccomendations? For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- As the summer lull settles in, I'm doing some research on a new Aerial work platform for the theatre. Currently we have two Genie lifts, an AWP-24 and an IWP-30. I'm leaning towards getting another Genie just to keep them all in the same family, but I want to get some input on other brands before we decide. The parameters within which we're working are=20 25'-30'platform height. =20 Small enough to fit through a standard door. Lightweight (less than 1/2 ton) AC powered I've been intrigued by the JLG line, but have never worked with them enough to know enough about their reliability. =20 Opinions are welcome on or off list. Thanks, Steve Litterst =09 --=20 Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:08:06 -0400 From: Matt DeLong Reply-To: Matt DeLong Subject: Re: Tiny fogger In-Reply-To: References:

Paul, The list price on a PF-1000 is $2195.00 . It is hard on some budgets. I havn't seen too much information on creating a fogger using a soldering iron or something similar, but you may find someting on the net. The dangers with creating your own fogger are temperature dependent. If the fog fluid is heated too much it will burn and may produce fumes that you don't want to be breathing. You may consider running a full size fogger into a smaller diameter tubing and installing that into your prop item. Hope this helps! Matt On 6/6/05, Paul Guncheon wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > < Pencil Fogger, and is made to be fit into small props etc.>> >=20 > I'm reasonably certain that it might work but at $1200.00+ (depending on > where one gets it) it is certainly out of the budget. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Paul >=20 > "That young insect is female," said Tom gallantly. >=20 > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014D202957F6D8118924000F20D7342B07083D5E [at] az33exm01.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: Can you hear me now? Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:39:45 -0700 The 4KHz dip is common among "older" hearers. This is the most sensitive frequency because those hair cells are at the top of the 1st cochlear turn and get battered the most. Loud continuous noise, even if wide-band, crashes into these hair cells with the most velocity. The noise insult does not have to be "singing" in this region, any sound will do, even low tones have harmonics and overtones (not many sine waves in nature) . Eventually these hair cells say WTF and die. Once dead, any residual hearing has to be done by adjacent hair cells which are getting tired just like the rest of your body. Of course, in today's noisy world and in sound types especially, this becomes even more common. Hearing protection during work sure helps to slow it down, but unless you wear it in your car, office, street, and home also, there is not much you can do to eliminate it. Growing old sucks. Chip Wood -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of usctd [at] columbia.sc Good advice. I am 35 and have loss in my right ear from I am assuming the same thing. I checked it out at the school clinic rather informaly after talking with a friend about it at USITT. I should check it out for real sometime soon. I have just started being really good about hearing protection in the last couple of years. > However, I have SIGNIFICANT hearing loss in both ears, but only in the > 4KHZ range. Hmmmm . . . now I'm just guessing, but do you suppose > those power tools I've listened to for the last 35 years might sing in > that range? Of course I wear hearing protection now, but the horse has > already left the barn. Shoulda listened . . . (pun intended). ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014D202957F6D8118924000F20D7342B07083DE8 [at] az33exm01.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: Can you hear me now? Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:51:37 -0700 Veeeery interesting. When I was in grad school, we did a study with musicians and audience members and found that Temporary Threshold Shift (TTS) i.e. temporary loss of hearing, was much more prevalent in listeners that heard music they DIDN'T like, even if dB-time exposure was approximately equivalent. We hypnotized that listening to adverse music caused tension in the middle ear muscles that resulted in more TTS than listening to music they enjoyed. Chip Wood -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of IAEG [at] aol.com interestingly though, , , I played R & R in almost every sleezy bar, and some concert stages in the SE in the mid 70's, , and needless to say have been around my fair share of concerts, I'm 51 last time I had my hearing checked I passed with flying colours, , ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000501c56ac8$5e9df1e0$0600a8c0 [at] lpt> From: Subject: drop frame Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:48:43 -0500 Organization: Minnesota Ballet I'm going to be building a drop frame that will be screwed down to the stage deck. This frame will only be used for 3 or 4 drops and then be thrown away. I'm a guest in someone else's scene shop and theater so I won't have any stock lumber to build it out of. I am planning to save money by ripping sheets of plywood rather than buying 1x4's. Along those lines, can I save even more money by using OSB instead of ply? How well can OSB hold the staples and paint while sizing the drop? Thanks, Ken Pogin MN Ballet ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1964cf3b050606114845e709fa [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:48:49 -0400 From: David Carrico Reply-To: David Carrico Subject: Re: Can you hear me now? In-Reply-To: References: I have noticed not a hearing loss, but the constant "ringing" of tinnitus. = =20 I started (too late) to wear ear muffs 80% of the time when I was in the shops. Now I also wear earplugs at concerts and some days on the train and subway Interesting timing of Loren's post, as Newsweek had a cover story about this very topic last week. Dave Carrico ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000901c56ac9$3f81a940$0600a8c0 [at] lpt> From: Subject: drawbridge Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:55:01 -0500 Organization: Minnesota Ballet I'm starting another thread on building a drawbridge. It's only 10' high, but it will open and close. Anyone on the list ever build a working drawbridge before? As I said before, I'm a guest in this scene shop over the summer and will not have much time to experiment so I need to build it right the first time. Any problems you encountered that I could learn from and avoid? I plan on using a steel frame, and the drawbridge will me manual, no motors. Thanks, Ken Pogin MN Ballet ------------------------------ Message-ID: <6ff650f05060611586b999d17 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:58:22 -0400 From: Kyle Schoenfeld Reply-To: Kyle Schoenfeld Subject: Re: drop frame In-Reply-To: References: I've done this sort of thing in the past in order to allow a drop to be tacked down in a space with a concrete floor using full sheets of plywood, rather then strips, and was then able to re-use the sheets for later projects. It means a larger initial layout in cost, but leaves the left overs more useable. Depends on how much use you can get out of the ply later and want to spend now. From what experience I've had with OSB, I would expect that unless you leave the strips pretty wide, its going to soak up paint and water and breakdown under the strain of the drop as it tightens. Hope thats of use- --Kyle Schoenfeld Technical Director York College Dept of Fine and Performing Arts ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014D202957F6D8118924000F20D7342B070840CE [at] az33exm01.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: RE: Can you hear me now? Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:03:38 -0700 Ah, but they don't really know if tinnitus is caused from overexposure to loud sounds. Hearing loss is definitely tied to exposure and/or heredity, but the jury is still out with tinnitus. Lots of causes are suspected. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of David Carrico I have noticed not a hearing loss, but the constant "ringing" of tinnitus. I started (too late) to wear ear muffs 80% of the time when I was in the shops. Now I also wear earplugs at concerts and some days on the train and subway ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050606121253.029aa690 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:18:08 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Can you hear me now? In-Reply-To: References:

At 11:48 AM 6/6/2005, David Carrico wrote: >I have noticed not a hearing loss, but the constant "ringing" of tinnitus. Don't tell your insurance company, I'm paying Kaiser a 20% premium because of the tinntinitus. Seems it's sometimes caused by other diseases so that's why the increase, even with no sign of the other disease. >I started (too late) to wear ear muffs 80% of the time when I was in >the shops. Now I also wear earplugs at concerts and some days on the >train and subway Had a client help hand-fire a 4th of July show last year, he asked if hearing protection, face shield, gloves, and hard hat were really required. We said it was if he wanted to get anywhere near the mortars! I can't believe someone would even ask that after loading a few hundred 3-6" shells. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:19:53 -0400 From: Delbert Hall Reply-To: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: drawbridge In-Reply-To: References: On 6/6/05, productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > I'm starting another thread on building a drawbridge. It's only 10' high, > but it will open and close. Anyone on the list ever build a working > drawbridge before? As I said before, I'm a guest in this scene shop over = the > summer and will not have much time to experiment so I need to build it ri= ght > the first time. Any problems you encountered that I could learn from and > avoid? I plan on using a steel frame, and the drawbridge will me manual, = no > motors. >=20 > Thanks, > Ken Pogin > MN Ballet >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 Delbert Hall Phone: 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:20:03 -0400 From: Delbert Hall Reply-To: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: drawbridge In-Reply-To: References: On 6/6/05, Delbert Hall wrote: > On 6/6/05, productionmanager [at] minnesotaballet.org > wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > I'm starting another thread on building a drawbridge. It's only 10' hig= h, > > but it will open and close. Anyone on the list ever build a working > > drawbridge before? As I said before, I'm a guest in this scene shop ove= r the > > summer and will not have much time to experiment so I need to build it = right > > the first time. Any problems you encountered that I could learn from an= d > > avoid? I plan on using a steel frame, and the drawbridge will me manual= , no > > motors. > > > > Thanks, > > Ken Pogin > > MN Ballet > > > > > > >=20 >=20 > -- > Delbert Hall > Phone: 423-773-4255 >=20 --=20 Delbert Hall Phone: 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:41:22 -0400 From: Delbert Hall Reply-To: Delbert Hall Subject: Re: drawbridge In-Reply-To: References: This is a simple problem. Although it has been a while, I have built two drawbridges that worked very well - both for productions of MAN OF LA MANCHA. I rigged counterweight (totally seperate for the mechanical counterweigh system) to assist the raising and lowering the the drawbridge. My last drawbridge was 12 feet long and 4 feet wide.=20 IIRC, it was construsted of five 2x4s that ran the length of the drawbridge (except for the 2x4s on the ends), with a 3/4" ply top and a 1/4" ply stress skin on the bottom. This was essentially a 4'x12' platform that was hinged securely to another platform. The ropes attached near the "free" end of the drawbridge and ran to blocks underhung from the grid. Thes ropes then ran to a second pair of blocks located further off-stage, and then down to a clew that held the counterweight. A lift line also attached to the clew, and ran to the floor. Remember, the bridge is heaviest when it is "down" and it gets lighter as it rises, so start with counterweith that is about half the weight of the drawbridge and experiment until you get fine the best weight for your operators. If you think something like this will work for you, and you have more questions, email or call me. Delbert Hall Phone: 423-773-4255 > > > > > > I'm starting another thread on building a drawbridge. It's only 10' h= igh, > > > but it will open and close. Anyone on the list ever build a working > > > drawbridge before? As I said before, I'm a guest in this scene shop o= ver the > > > summer and will not have much time to experiment so I need to build i= t right > > > the first time. Any problems you encountered that I could learn from = and > > > avoid? I plan on using a steel frame, and the drawbridge will me manu= al, no > > > motors. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ken Pogin > > > MN Ballet ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <6a.56e8e255.2fd612da [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:58:02 EDT Subject: Re: rookie welder: structural engineering of steel platforms In a message dated 6/5/05 7:14:45 AM W. Europe Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: << OK, OK, so there are a lot of experienced welders out there. If I have a small, portable compressor, and have worn a scratch into the back of the tank (you know, the part that drags whenm you lift the front, right behind and between the wheels). Can I just take the MIG welder and slap a bead onto the tiny leak, or have I just compromised the entire tank. >> I'm afraid that you have. Pressure vessels are not a place for compromise. They require to be tested and certified. When they fail, the results can be catastrophic. I don't say that what you propose may not be satisfactory, but it still would need to be re-tested, and certified again. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:58:04 EDT Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: AOL workaround] In a message dated 6/5/05 6:06:34 PM W. Europe Daylight Time, slitterst [at] ithaca.edu writes: << Faster workaround -- Open the write mail dialog, right click in the body of the message and select "Compose in plain text." >> Well, is it? To originate mail, yes. I rarely do this. To reply to mail, you would have to open the message, select the parts to be replied to, copy them to the clipboard. open the 'write mail' dialogue, enter the address, paste the clipboard to the mail, write your response, and then select the format. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <7f.5f9fc3b9.2fd612da [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:58:02 EDT Subject: Re: Speaking of Macs... In a message dated 6/5/05 12:31:07 AM W. Europe Daylight Time, ostroff [at] operaphilly.com writes: << There may soon be an "Intel Inside." I just checked my calendar and it doesn't say April 1... According to cnet: http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?part=rss&tag=5731398&subj=news ------------------------------------- Apple Computer plans to announce Monday that it's scrapping its partnership with IBM and switching its computers to Intel's microprocessors, CNET News.com has learned. Apple has used IBM's PowerPC processors since 1994, but will begin a phased transition to Intel's chips, sources familiar with the situation said. Apple plans to move lower-end computers such as the Mac Mini to Intel chips in mid-2006 and higher-end models such as the Power Mac in mid-2007, sources said. >> I share your incredulity. Back in the dark ages of computers, there were two processors, the 8080 and the 6800. The 8080 had a lot of internal registers, and the 6800 a lot of very versatile memory addressing capabilities, but few registers. Apple went with the 6800, and IBM with the 8080. Both worked well, with properly written software, and each had some advantages. Had I been designing lighting control software then, I should probably have gone down the 6800 road. I stopped trying to do machine code or assembler programming many years ago, when Pascal compilers made their appearance. Then, of course, there was Windows, which is designed around the 8080 and its successors. I know that it can be run on a MAC, but only by having it to pretend to be a processor with a completely different architecture. It says a lot for Apple's software designers that they can do this, with little, if any, loss of speed. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1d9.3dfe0e91.2fd612db [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:58:03 EDT Subject: Re: AOL workaround In a message dated 6/5/05 4:03:49 PM W. Europe Daylight Time, LITETROL [at] aol.com writes: << Kristi wrote: <> I have been wondering what workaround there might be for my inability to respond to messages on the list. Thank you Kristi, for putting me on the "write" track. >> The problem is that the list is set up to reject automatically mails with attachments. Versions of AOL after 5.0 send mail as two-part MIME messages. The first part is the plain-text message, and the second an HTML attachment. Some, but not all later versions of AOL allow you to turn this off. I have instructions, but they are 700 miles away. Me, I cheat. I have both AOL 7.0 and 5.0 up. That seems to cause no mutual problems, and 5.0 allows me to reply to this list. I have heard that AOL 9.0 can handle it, but have no evidence. Kristi's aol.ca fix I haven't tried. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:58:04 EDT Subject: Re: Can you hear me now? In a message dated 6/5/05 8:13:03 PM W. Europe Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: << I did my share of R&R, playing and touring. I have always said that volume is just an inadequate way to compensate for some other inadequacy, and have insistedd that those around me accept that good and listenable is a far better target than loudest and mediocre. And my friends think that I'm a freak when I tell them that their olde TV is just about to throw a flyback tranformer... >> You and I are lucky. We have kept our hearing intact as far as our ages allow. At 66, I might well not hear a duff line transformer. I'll check when I get back to England; 15KHz may well have gone, by now. Maybe not. I think I can still tell a Steinway from a Bosendorfer. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:37:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Speaking of Macs... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: Well it's official, Apple is beginning the transition with the first machines appearing a year from now and everything converted within two years. They demonstrated OSX "Tiger" running on an Apple/Intel machine today at WWDC. If you join their developer group you can get a kit for $1,000 which is said to include all the hardware and software needed to convert your applications. Evidently Apple is also looking at a technology called "Rosetta" which translates PPC code on the fly at 80% of the original speed. This would probably be a win - especially in laptops where the Mac has fallen far behind - assuming fast enough processors. Another interesting thing. Apple said they wouldn't support MS Windows on their machines, but would not do anything to the hardware to prevent someone else from doing so. Therefore it sounds like you can have a dual boot machine that starts up in either Windows or OSX. OTOH, they are going to take steps to insure that OSX can only run on Apple hardware. Here's a link to Apple's press release: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jun/06intel.html | Boyd Ostroff | Director of Design and Technology | Opera Company of Philadelphia | http://tech.operaphilly.com | ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: Fog/haze maintenance Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 00:09:06 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I have two poorly machines, both of which went at around the same time, which I reckon is probably pure coincidence....! We give the machines periodic cleanouts, running some DI water through to purge the pipes, though to be honest this doesn't happen as often as perhaps it should. The problems: Jem ZR12 DMX - when I send it a command to produce fog, it makes a helluva noise, almost as if there's a blockage and it can't get the fluid through, but then it will suddenly spurt forth for a few seconds, reverting to the noise with no fog after that. Martin 24/7 hazer - this produces the haze ok, but is doing a LOT of spitting of hot fluid at the same time. Again, cleaning the pipes with DI didn't seem to make much difference.... So - anyone any pearls of wisdom before I take the wee beasties apart for a good look? Anything to check for/common faults? (One curious side-note - the 24/7 manual states it's NOT to be suspended overhead, but it comes with 3 eye-bolts that screw into the top of the case, which sort of gives the idea it CAN be used overhead! And I actually get better coverage from it when it IS above ground level.....) Cheers Ynot ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Fog/haze maintenance Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:42:47 -0400 Message-ID: <7AE59BA9B8D15D4787EB1C7A2DB6DFBA1CC6EE [at] jekyll-sbs.ollsi.local> From: "Abby Downing" There is an upgrade to the Martin 24/7 Hazer that may alleviate some of your problems. Depends on how old it is. They have scrapped the black hose going to the heat exchanger, in favor of a thin copper tubing. Feel free to contact me off list and I can talk you through how to tell which you have and assist you in getting the upgrade, should you need it. I just did the upgrade and changed out the heat exchanger in one of mine. The upgrade is quick and easy, in my opinion. I will take a look at the tech notes and see if there is any more info I can offer. Abby -----Original Message----- From: Tony Deeming [mailto:deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com]=20 Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:09 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Fog/haze maintenance For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I have two poorly machines, both of which went at around the same time, which I reckon is probably pure coincidence....! We give the machines periodic cleanouts, running some DI water through to purge the pipes, though to be honest this doesn't happen as often as perhaps it should. The problems: Jem ZR12 DMX - when I send it a command to produce fog, it makes a helluva noise, almost as if there's a blockage and it can't get the fluid through, but then it will suddenly spurt forth for a few seconds, reverting to the noise with no fog after that. Martin 24/7 hazer - this produces the haze ok, but is doing a LOT of spitting of hot fluid at the same time. Again, cleaning the pipes with DI didn't seem to make much difference.... So - anyone any pearls of wisdom before I take the wee beasties apart for a good look? Anything to check for/common faults? (One curious side-note - the 24/7 manual states it's NOT to be suspended overhead, but it comes with 3 eye-bolts that screw into the top of the case, which sort of gives the idea it CAN be used overhead! And I actually get better coverage from it when it IS above ground level.....) Cheers Ynot ------------------------------ Subject: Myth or Fact????? Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:37:22 -0400 Message-ID: From: "James, Brian" To mark the shackles that belong to my department, we have always made a = mark on the bell of the shackle using spray paint. We did not paint the = whole shackle, just the bell. It occurred to me that today the fourth person told me that was a bad = idea, and we should not do it. Usually the reasoning has something to = due with chemical reactions and the weakening of the metal. I have not = been able to find anything that indicates this as a possibility while = searching the web, and it does seem a bit far fetched for me, but I = thought I would ask. So, is it a myth or a fact that painting a shackle with spray paint is = bad? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42A4FCFE.7040003 [at] fuse.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:48:46 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: OT--varnish removal question References: In-Reply-To: Jacqueline Haney Kidwell wrote: > We've had the furnace go down three times in two > years--twice over one Christmas/New Years. This is > New England. Even when it was out last month, it was > chilly. There is a hole in the roof and bats come in. > Spots on the floor are small potatoes compared to the > stuff this guy SAYS he's getting fixed. Oh, and when > I did get him to send someone to open the painted shut > windows, I wound up with chisel marks on frames that > still wouldn't budge. > The first of the next month, send the landlord a letter stating that your rent has been deposited into an escrow account at ___ Bank, and it will be released to him when, and only when, the following major structural and habitability deficiencies have been corrected. As long as you get the escrow set up legally, and put your obligated rent into the account on time as per your lease, you are safe from eviction. You might be able to set a deadline and take that escrowed rent with you if the repairs are not completed in time. Consult with a lawyer or the fair housing league in your area. because the rules and procedures are different in each jurisdiction. Any landlord who treats his property like that is an idiot and deserves what he gets. And that's not the ravings of another pissed off tenant, I AM a landlord. Of course the other thing to look at is whether the landlord is overwhelmed by the building and it's needs and you could offer to buy him out. That's how I acquired the two family next door. Pull together an offer and drop it in his lap before you escrow...And if you do not feel slightly embarrassed by your offer, lower it! Good luck! Stuart ------------------------------ From: "Fred Schoening" Subject: RE: Myth or Fact????? Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:28:57 -0500 Message-ID: <001301c56b08$ab4c6c70$1f8afea9 [at] PRODIGALBRAIN> In-Reply-To: Seems that's a question that would be better directed toward the manufacturer of said shackle... "Big Fred" Schoening Technical Director Dallas Theater Center Dallas, Texas, USA "...a root word of technology, techne, originally meant 'art.' The ancient Greeks never separated art from manufacture in their minds, and so never developed separate words for them." - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance -----Original Message-----. So, is it a myth or a fact that painting a shackle with spray paint is bad? ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Myth or Fact????? Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:32:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: "James, Brian" I guess I could go with the obvious =3D) I honestly did not even think of that, thank you for the thought! -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Fred Schoening Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:29 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Myth or Fact????? For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Seems that's a question that would be better directed toward the manufacturer of said shackle... "Big Fred" Schoening Technical Director Dallas Theater Center Dallas, Texas, USA "...a root word of technology, techne, originally meant 'art.' The ancient Greeks never separated art from manufacture in their minds, and so never developed separate words for them." - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance -----Original Message-----. So, is it a myth or a fact that painting a shackle with spray paint is bad? ------------------------------ From: "Patrick Drone" Subject: RE: Rookie Welding...structural engineering of steel platforms Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:39:34 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: O.K. Now I've decided to come out of lurking an give my own option. Chris as far as you compressor is concerned my first advice is replace the tank. Or choose 2 take it to a welding shop and have them TIG it. It is a much cleaner weld both on the surface and thru the weld. Fewer pinholes, no slag, or undercut. If you decide that you can weld it with a MIG machine do not use Flux core MIG wire. it is a very unclean weld. Now I missed the original question under the title "Rookie Welder" but everyone giving their option about the different types of welding so here is mine. For the platforms use 1"x2" steel on edge with three cross inner cross braces at 2 foot, 4 foot, and 6 foot. As far as the type of welding MIG it. If you have the time thou I would say take a class on arc (Stick) welding first. Because it very easy to learn to MIG after learning stick welding even if your teaching yourself. But most people have trouble learning the other way around. Tig is not something 75% of theatre need to even mess with. it is great because it is strong and clean weld but it is slow and harder to learn. It is mainly used in small pipes under 2 inches in diameter at my current job. And MIG is used for almost everything. I hope that this helps I will now crawl back into my dark hole and lurk. Patrick Drone Ship Fitter Virginia Class Submarine Project Northrop Grumman/ Newport News Shipbuilding Also Freelance Technical Director/Props Artisan My Opinions are my own and not my employers. Or anyone else's ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42A50DD7.5040805 [at] fuse.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:00:39 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: rookie welder: structural engineering of steel platforms References: In-Reply-To: CB wrote: > > OK, OK, so there are a lot of experienced welders out there. If I have a > small, portable compressor, and have worn a scratch into the back of the > tank (you know, the part that drags whenm you lift the front, right behind > and between the wheels). Can I just take the MIG welder and slap a bead > onto the tiny leak, or have I just compromised the entire tank. > I am a fairly respectable MIG welder, nothing fancy, but nothing I've built > has fallen apart (knoeck wood) and I've welded things that folk dance on. > No re-entry (or exit) vehicular welding, but standard theatrical stuff. > Any thoughts? A guy like you just might have a connection that could hydro test the finished repair before you pressurised it with air. If the damage is on a section of tank that curves in three dimesions, I'd forget it, there are too many stresses. if it is the cylindrical part of the tank, I'd be tempted to try to roll or get rolled a patch that fits the radius of the tank, and weld it over the leak, since the abrasion has made a larger weak spot than the little place that is leaking. I think buying a replacement tank might be the easiest, just move all the other components over on to the new one. After all, five years from now, when the rust on the inside of the patch causes it to fail, just as your neice is filling the tire on her bike, you won't really care that you saved 115 bucks. Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <63577.24.68.198.5.1118115630.squirrel [at] 24.68.198.5> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Myth or Fact????? From: "Tom Heemskerk" > > > So, is it a myth or a fact that painting a shackle with spray paint is > bad? > > I can't speak for the manufacturers, of course, but I've noticed that one of them always puts red paint on the pin, and it's trademarked. th ------------------------------ Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20050607042138.011a5b88 [at] pop.paonline.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:21:38 -0400 From: Joe Subject: Re: Soldering Iron Fog Machine I have played with a "Zero Blaster" I purchased from www.robotstore.com . It is a toy that will shoot smoke rings. It has an internal smoke generator, that could perhaps be cut out of it and modified. The "pump" action is accomplished by a eye-dropper bulb squeezing some air into the fogfluid chamber. But that chamber only holds about a teaspoon of fluid. Joe Dunfee joe [at] dunfee.com Gordonville, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #420 *****************************