Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 23312520; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:01:46 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #438 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:01:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #438 1. Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 2. Re: air casters by "Dan Culhane" 3. 1950s Style Pay Phone by Dave Reynolds 4. Re: 1950s Style Pay Phone by Steve Larson 5. 1950's era pay phone by Steve Larson 6. Re: 1950s Style Pay Phone by "Steve Jones" 7. Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! by "C. Dopher" 8. Re: air casters by "C. Dopher" 9. A / B Smoke by "Paul Guncheon" 10. Re: A / B Smoke by Jerry Durand 11. Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 12. Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 13. Re: A / B Smoke by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 14. Re: A / B Smoke by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 15. Re: A / B Smoke by Jerry Durand 16. Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! by CB 17. Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! by "Paul Schreiner" 18. Please recommend me how to start and other advices by "Marcelo C. Chiesa" 19. Re: 1950s Style Pay Phone by "Alf Sauve" 20. Another from the Greatest Generation passes on. by "Alf Sauve" 21. Re: A / B Smoke by "Bill Nelson" 22. Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! by "Bill Nelson" 23. Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! by Noah Price 24. Lightweight deck material by Joseph Champelli 25. Re: Lightweight deck material by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Cc: jonares [at] hevanet.com Subject: RE: C'mon, folks, give us a break! Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:38:52 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c578b1$4ecfc170$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: =20 > Sorry about that... I'm doing a show out of town, so I'm=20 > reading this through something other than my 'usual' pipeline=20 > to my ISP, so I didn't realize it wasn't 'quoting' or=20 > delineating original text in a decipherable way. It wasn't necessarily aimed at you, Jon; it's a trend I'm noticing = lately all over the 'net. There are several users here -- intelligent, articulate, knowledgeable, = and witty, every one of them let me hasten to say -- whose posts = consistently are a little...er...ambiguous...as to quoted or original text, and then = when *those* posts get quoted, it becomes even less clear. ------------------------------ From: "Dan Culhane" Subject: Re: air casters Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:56:56 -0500 Message-ID: When we build very large Orchestra Shell Towers and need to use air casters to move them, we use the "Gap Master" air caster by ASE Systems. These air casters are able to span gaps over 1/2" and can overcome 1/4" height differences in the floor surface. http://www.asesystems.com/gap-master.shtml Dan Culhane d.culhane [at] secoa.com SECOA, Inc. The Stage Equipment Company 8650 109th Avenue North Champlin, MN 55316 Phone: 763-506-8800 Fax: 763-506-8844 www.secoa.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42BC025F.5000106 [at] macalester.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:53:51 -0500 From: Dave Reynolds Subject: 1950s Style Pay Phone Hi folks, I have need of a 1950s style pay phone for an upcoming show July 5-9. I have checked in our Props Storage and do not have one. Also, I checked on-line and they are $300-$800 to buy. I might have a line on one on e-bay, but that is not guaranteed. Does anyone have an idea where I can get one? It doesn't have to be an original, a replica is just fine. I'll continue to check locally. THANKS! Dave Reynolds -- A man finds joy in giving an apt reply - and how good is a timely word! --Proverbs 15:23, New International Version Dave Reynolds Media Services Macalester College 1600 Grand Ave. St. Paul, MN 55105 voice: (651) 696-6378 fax: (651) 696-6304 reynolds [at] macalester.edu DV Cassie with lots of fonts and effects, KRON and Final Cut Pro. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:37:25 -0400 Subject: Re: 1950s Style Pay Phone From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Check first with the phone company. Don't talk to a receptionist, find the service guys. They'll know. That's how I've dealt with this situation in the past. In Sanford NC, not far from Raleigh, there is a man who restores old phones. Has thousands. I buy up any old unusual phone I see at a flea market. A pay phone, I don't have. Sorry. Steve > From: Dave Reynolds > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:53:51 -0500 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: 1950s Style Pay Phone > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi folks, I have need of a 1950s style pay phone for an upcoming show > July 5-9. I have checked in our Props Storage and do not have one. Also, > I checked on-line and they are $300-$800 to buy. I might have a line on > one on e-bay, but that is not guaranteed. Does anyone have an idea where > I can get one? It doesn't have to be an original, a replica is just > fine. I'll continue to check locally. THANKS! Dave Reynolds > > -- > A man finds joy in giving an apt reply - and how good is a timely word! > --Proverbs 15:23, New International Version > > > > Dave Reynolds > Media Services > Macalester College > 1600 Grand Ave. > St. Paul, MN 55105 > voice: (651) 696-6378 > fax: (651) 696-6304 > reynolds [at] macalester.edu > > DV Cassie with lots of fonts and effects, KRON and Final Cut Pro. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:40:13 -0400 Subject: 1950's era pay phone From: Steve Larson Message-ID: No sooner had I sent the last post, but I got curious and googled "1950 era pay phone" http://www.phonevault.com/catalog/AntiquePayPhones/Reproductions /payrepro.asp Steve ------------------------------ From: "Steve Jones" Subject: RE: 1950s Style Pay Phone Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:54:31 -0500 Organization: Plaza Theatre In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The Cracker Barrel Restaurant near here has one replica they are selling. The black and chromes style. But it probably has push buttons where the rotary dial is. I didn't look to close the other say when I was in there. I think it was about $40.00. They might have them in a Cracker Barrel near you. If they are far enough from the audience, the dial might not matter. Also check out this URL http://www.oldphoneman.com/Rental.htm I've note used them before, however. Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 651-2511 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Dave > Reynolds > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:54 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: 1950s Style Pay Phone > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi folks, I have need of a 1950s style pay phone for an upcoming show > July 5-9. I have checked in our Props Storage and do not have one. Also, > I checked on-line and they are $300-$800 to buy. I might have a line on > one on e-bay, but that is not guaranteed. Does anyone have an idea where > I can get one? It doesn't have to be an original, a replica is just > fine. I'll continue to check locally. THANKS! Dave Reynolds > > -- > A man finds joy in giving an apt reply - and how good is a timely word! > --Proverbs 15:23, New International Version > > > > Dave Reynolds > Media Services > Macalester College > 1600 Grand Ave. > St. Paul, MN 55105 > voice: (651) 696-6378 > fax: (651) 696-6304 > reynolds [at] macalester.edu > > DV Cassie with lots of fonts and effects, KRON and Final Cut Pro. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:13:33 -0400 Subject: Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001d01c57849$3f323d50$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> On 6/23/05 7:14 PM, "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" wrote: > > Originally, on the Internet, it was the practice to indicate quoted text > with a "greater than" sign.... > >> So that quoted text >> looked like this. > > Some mail programs indicate quoted text by setting it between parallel > lines.... > > Original Message > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D > In which case, the quoted text looks like this. > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D > > Use one or the other of these methods, or use something completely > different.... > > ...But *please* use some means of indicating which is the quoted text = > and > which is your contribution! And give us techno-challenged a break and please don't send messages in HTML. Plain text will be fine. Otherwise, your fancy characters come out as gobbledy-gook. Actually, I don't really care. I have more important things to worry about. Cris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:15:23 -0400 Subject: Re: air casters From: "C. Dopher" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: On 6/23/05 10:11 PM, "Bill Sapsis" wrote: > In places with bad floor, I'm kinda partial to the ones that employ a > bladder that works like a piston. It forces down a standard caster which > then allows you to roll the unit around and then set it back down when > you're done. What I think may be the problem with the current location is > just how rough the floor really is. If it's "off-road" rough then there's > not much hope no matter what you do. > Bill S. > > www.sapsis-rigging.com > 800.727.7471 > 800.292.3851 fax > 267.2778.4561 mobile > > Please support the Long Reach Long Riders benefit ride for Broadway > Cares/Equity Fights AIDS > > > > > On 6/23/05 1:10 PM, "David R. Krajec" wrote: > >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> So, Bill, what is your favorite air caster? I'm a big fan of those bad >> boys, in the right application. >> >> One caveat to anyone who has to/wants to use them. Seal all of the seams in >> your stage floor with clear packing tape. >> ANY leak of air through the cracks will cause the unit to sit down and not >> budge an inch. Even if you are only running them at 20 PSI, the air will >> finds the smallest opening. >> >> David K. >> >> > > I own one of these piston-style air casters, built by a TD I worked with years ago. Someday, I'm going to upgrade the design and start selling them on the internet. Yeah, that's the ticket. Cris Dopher ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:59:08 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: A / B Smoke Message-id: <001f01c578de$09e5dfe0$c6354104 [at] yourxhtr8hvc4p> References: Can someone tell me the actual two components of A /B smoke? I know they are muriatic acid and ammonia but I do not know in what concentration these chemicals need to be. I know, I know, they're prohibited, dangerous, illegal, against OSHA regulations, against the laws of God and man, you'll put your eye out, wait for your father to come home... Honestly, the stuff is truly nasty and has really no use on stage. You can let me know off list if you wish. Another way of making steam for food involves making a material from baked coffee creamer and with the addition of another "substance". Placing a drop of water on this stuff ostensibly produced "steam". Has anybody heard of this technique and know the other "substance". A cookie for the first one who does. Okay... a beer. Laters, Paul "I can't be bothered," said Tom carelessly. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050624100239.029d6f40 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:09:51 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: A / B Smoke In-Reply-To: References:

At 09:59 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote: >Another way of making steam for food involves making a material from baked >coffee creamer and with the addition of another "substance". Placing a drop >of water on this stuff ostensibly produced "steam". Has anybody heard of >this technique and know the other "substance". All we use coffee creamer for is making very large fireballs ("Creamora Mine" or "Creamora Bomb"). Be careful how you handle it around flames. I think in California anything that can make simulated steam (or any other interesting effect) is banned or soon will be. :( ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1c0.2b3cd98b.2feda2e0 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:54:40 EDT Subject: Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! In a message dated 24/06/05 12:39:42 GMT Daylight Time, stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com writes: > There are several users here -- intelligent, articulate, knowledgeable, and > witty, every one of them let me hasten to say -- whose posts consistently > are a little...er...ambiguous...as to quoted or original text, and then when > *those* posts get quoted, it becomes even less clear. It's a dilemma. If you quote the whole post, it can get rather unwieldy, after a few replies. On the other hand, if you cut too much, readers may not be able to remember where the whole thing started. I come from the days when bandwidth, which means time, and memory usage were precious resources, not lightly to be squandered. When first I came to the list, I tried, with the intention of being courteous, to minimise the length of my posts, including the quotations. I overdid it. Nowadays, I quote more. You really have to use judgement. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <9e.28c35826.2feda419 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:59:53 EDT Subject: Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! In a message dated 24/06/05 17:14:14 GMT Daylight Time, brooklyn [at] dopher.com writes: > > Use one or the other of these methods, or use something completely > > different.... > > > > ...But *please* use some means of indicating which is the quoted text = > > and > > which is your contribution! > > > And give us techno-challenged a break and please don't send messages in > HTML. Plain text will be fine. Otherwise, your fancy characters come out > as gobbledy-gook. Hear,hear! At the same time, how quoted text is displayed, and presumably re-posted, is a choice you have to make from the options your mail server offers. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <214.3791e4f.2feda6a5 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:10:45 EDT Subject: Re: A / B Smoke In a message dated 24/06/05 17:59:38 GMT Daylight Time, paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net writes: > Can someone tell me the actual two components of A /B smoke? I know they are > muriatic acid and ammonia but I do not know in what concentration these > chemicals need to be. Quite strong. When we were less safety conscious, I have seen this done with two clay pipes. The bowl of one had been soaked in .880 ammonia, and that of the other in strong hydrochloric acid. When the bowls were placed together, you saw clouds of white smoke. This was at school, back in the fifties. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <20.478bb14d.2feda93f [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:21:51 EDT Subject: Re: A / B Smoke In a message dated 24/06/05 18:10:28 GMT Daylight Time, jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes: > All we use coffee creamer for is making very large fireballs ("Creamora > Mine" or "Creamora Bomb"). Be careful how you handle it around flames. > > I think in California anything that can make simulated steam (or any other > interesting effect) is banned or soon will be. :( Flour will do. This thread keeps taking me back to my schooldays. I remember my chemistry master demonstrating a dust explosion. He rolled a sheet of paper into a funnel, put a teaspoon of flour in the small end, and blew it into the flame of a bunsen burner. Instant fireball! Befoer anybody says this is trivial, a few years ago a theatre in Newcastle-on-Tyne had a minor backstage fire. Properly, they dropped the safety curtain. Unfortunately, the air currents from the fire dislodged a lot of dust from the grid area, creating a dust explosion. As a result, the safety curtain acquired a 2' deep hemispherical dent. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050624112435.02a07358 [at] 192.168.0.13> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:26:31 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: A / B Smoke In-Reply-To: References: At 11:21 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote: >Flour will do. > >This thread keeps taking me back to my schooldays. I remember my chemistry >master demonstrating a dust explosion. He rolled a sheet of paper into a >funnel, >put a teaspoon of flour in the small end, and blew it into the flame of a >bunsen burner. Instant fireball! We use coffee creamer since it's almost pure fat. MUCH better fuel than flour. >Befoer anybody says this is trivial, a few years ago a theatre in >Newcastle-on-Tyne had a minor backstage fire. Properly, they dropped the >safety curtain. >Unfortunately, the air currents from the fire dislodged a lot of dust from >the >grid area, creating a dust explosion. As a result, the safety curtain >acquired a 2' deep hemispherical dent. I assume that was a metal safety curtain? Many a grain silo has exploded, when I lived in Sanford, Florida one blew up on the other side of town. Made quite a mess. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050624120033.01716890 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:00:33 From: CB Subject: RE: C'mon, folks, give us a break! >...But *please* use some means of indicating which is the quoted text = >and >which is your contribution! You're suggesting that most of these guys will know how to trim thier posts for reply, or care enough about their fellow poster's to do so. Those with the aggregate skillset and a modicum of manners have already figured this out, those without one or the other, or both, won't be able to, won't ask for help, or won't give a damn. Nice try though! What, you haven't seen my sig either? Do I have to maek it bigger or something? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Subject: RE: C'mon, folks, give us a break! Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:59:34 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C85C [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > you haven't seen my sig either? Do I have to maek it bigger=20 > or something? No, but some of those fancy-schmancy html tags might do the trick...you could make it blink or something. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050624230631.72429.qmail [at] web26605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:06:31 +0100 (BST) From: "Marcelo C. Chiesa" Subject: Please recommend me how to start and other advices Hi, I am new in this list, my name is Marcelo, I am italian and I have been living in London, UK for a little more than 4 months. I had an small lighting and DJ's company with some friends when I was in the high school, I used to repair spots, build switchboards, sequentials, dimmers, etc We did stage and disco lighting. Now I am a telecomms superior technician (similar to a Bsc in UK) and I am looking for job but as many people explain me some time ago British Telecom made redundant a lot of engineers and that is one of reasons why now it's very hard to find a job and even more difficult if you don't have a lot of experience and a lot of qualifications, so I am considering the option of start working in professional lighting, so if some of the people in this forum can recommend me how to start and other advices that you think appropiate it will be very appreciatted. I am open to relocation all over the world, I am 24, unfortunately I don't have money to pay courses and I really enjoy lighting, IT, electronics and related. For example if I can find a company that want to pay me or give to me some training I can give them working hours in payment for that. Please feel free to call me if you want. Thanks in advance. Best regards. Marcelo C. Chiesa L W 3 E O V (H) +44-208 690 3618 (M) +44-798 669 9554 marcelo.chiesa [at] ieee.org 122 Crofton Park Road, Brockley, Lewisham, SE4 1AL, London, England, United Kingdom, European Union. ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <096801c57938$1466d460$0400a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" References: Subject: Re: 1950s Style Pay Phone Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:41:14 -0400 Look for a telephone "pioneers" club in your area. In Atlanta there's the Metro Atlanta Telephone Pioneer Amateur Radio Club. Other large metro areas probably have clubs or associations of older Bell employees..amateur radio or not. Alf ------------------------------ Message-ID: <09dd01c57939$97d89ee0$0400a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" References: Subject: Another from the Greatest Generation passes on. Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:48:45 -0400 Al Kahn, founder of E-V, passed away on 6/15 at the age of 89. Here is a brief excerpt from ARRL newsletter. Of interest is where the term Electro-Voice came from. Alf Storyteller Joyful Noise Maker =============== Born in LaSalle, Illinois, Kahn moved as a child to South Bend, Indiana. He became licensed there in 1921 as 9BBI and later held W8DUS in Michigan. As Burchfield tells it, Kahn (with Lou Burroughs, a local machinist) in 1927 started a radio service shop in South Bend. Legendary Notre Dame football coach Knute Rockne needed a public address system to amplify his voice during practice sessions, and he came to Kahn for help. Most microphones of the day were carbon-button types, but Kahn constructed a superior velocity--or ribbon--microphone and put together a PA system that Rockne called his "electric voice." In 1930, Kahn and Burroughs adopted the name Electro-Voice for the business and began making velocity microphones, which they also supplied to the military during World War II. During the war, Kahn invented and patented a noise-canceling microphone and marketed it successfully to the military. The design is still in use. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3824.64.28.62.113.1119674324.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: A / B Smoke From: "Bill Nelson" > I think in California anything that can make simulated steam (or any other > interesting effect) is banned or soon will be. :( One way would be to put a few drops of titanium dioxide on some dry material. It forms "smoke" in contact with moist air. No idea what disposal laws say on it now. We used to just flush it down the sink. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3834.64.28.62.113.1119674862.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! From: "Bill Nelson" >> And give us techno-challenged a break and please don't send messages in >> HTML. Plain text will be fine. Otherwise, your fancy characters come >> out >> as gobbledy-gook. > > Hear,hear! > > At the same time, how quoted text is displayed, and presumably re-posted, > is > a choice you have to make from the options your mail server offers. Some mail servers, mine for example, do not allow the choice of plain text only. It will display html if that is what is sent. Wish I had a choice, html can hide nasty stuff. Bill ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: From: Noah Price Subject: Re: C'mon, folks, give us a break! Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:18:25 -0700 On Jun 24, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Bill Nelson wrote: >>> And give us techno-challenged a break and please don't send >>> messages in >>> HTML. Plain text will be fine. Otherwise, your fancy >>> characters come out >>> as gobbledy-gook. >> At the same time, how quoted text is displayed, and presumably re- >> posted, >> is a choice you have to make from the options your mail server >> offers. > Some mail servers, mine for example, do not allow the choice of > plain text > only. It will display html if that is what is sent. The problem isn't the server, it's the email client program. It may look like it's the server since you're using webmail, but webmail is just another email program. Desktop email clients often offer more display options, and some webmail lets you control image display. But at least your webmail *sends* HTML, which is the problem others have been having! Noah ------------------------------ Message-ID: <621d2eb0050624231178af8f9c [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:11:27 -0400 From: Joseph Champelli Reply-To: Joseph Champelli Subject: Lightweight deck material Does anyone have suggestions for a lightweight deck material. I'm looking for something in the 1/2" to 3/4" range. =20 We've used honeycomb aluminum panels before. Aside from having a big big taste, they work well for our application, but I'm currently looking for something with a clean edge. The honeycomb panels, when cut, leave a nasty edge exposing the honeycomb innards. And let's assume for the sake of research that cost is not a concern at this time. Thanks, Joe --=20 Joseph Champelli 702.429.5859 cell ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3964.64.28.62.113.1119680457.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Lightweight deck material From: "Bill Nelson" Cc: joechamp [at] gmail.com (Joseph Champelli) > Does anyone have suggestions for a lightweight deck material. > > I'm looking for something in the 1/2" to 3/4" range. There is a sandwich type decking used for boats that consists of a skin of either hardwood or fiberglass over a solid balsa core. No idea of sources or costs. Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #438 *****************************